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They are not allowing visa and mastercard for betting, but they are also not allowing people to access crypto betting websites like sportsbet, so it is not an easy solution. Problem is that I think other countries may follow German example, and that is bad. What is next? They can ban alcohol and bad food, and who knows what next and make one big concentration camp again. There must be some freedom and responsibility and less restrictions for online betting.
Every country have their own regulation about gambling but this one is quite harsh because they totally shun every payment processor and this might include Cryptocurrency so they may not be surge after all the article says they will have regulation, what kind of that regulation when they are banning all kinds and forms of payment, they might totally ban it. They can only ban gambling sites which are in operation under their regulation, not a crypto gambling sites outside their country, so that would make bitcoin casino to surge in the crypto market, not in german market. I guess the title should be, bitcoin to surge in german market, not the casinos.
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August 26, 2020, 11:33:16 PM |
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They are not allowing visa and mastercard for betting, but they are also not allowing people to access crypto betting websites like sportsbet, so it is not an easy solution. Problem is that I think other countries may follow German example, and that is bad. What is next? They can ban alcohol and bad food, and who knows what next and make one big concentration camp again. There must be some freedom and responsibility and less restrictions for online betting.
Every country have their own regulation about gambling but this one is quite harsh because they totally shun every payment processor and this might include Cryptocurrency so they may not be surge after all the article says they will have regulation, what kind of that regulation when they are banning all kinds and forms of payment, they might totally ban it. They can only ban gambling sites which are in operation under their regulation, not a crypto gambling sites outside their country, so that would make bitcoin casino to surge in the crypto market, not in german market. I guess the title should be, bitcoin to surge in german market, not the casinos. And those gamblers can access these crypto casinos by going around the internet. They can always find a work around if some sites are banned in their country. Since bitcoin is treated as legal in Germany, they have no problem in dealing with cryptocurrencies. https://nomoretax.eu/bitcoin-tax-haven-germany/
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August 26, 2020, 11:38:31 PM |
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They are not allowing visa and mastercard for betting, but they are also not allowing people to access crypto betting websites like sportsbet, so it is not an easy solution. Problem is that I think other countries may follow German example, and that is bad. What is next? They can ban alcohol and bad food, and who knows what next and make one big concentration camp again. There must be some freedom and responsibility and less restrictions for online betting.
Every country have their own regulation about gambling but this one is quite harsh because they totally shun every payment processor and this might include Cryptocurrency so they may not be surge after all the article says they will have regulation, what kind of that regulation when they are banning all kinds and forms of payment, they might totally ban it. They can only ban gambling sites which are in operation under their regulation, not a crypto gambling sites outside their country, so that would make bitcoin casino to surge in the crypto market, not in german market. I guess the title should be, bitcoin to surge in german market, not the casinos. And those gamblers can access these crypto casinos by going around the internet. They can always find a work around if some sites are banned in their country. Since bitcoin is treated as legal in Germany, they have no problem in dealing with cryptocurrencies. https://nomoretax.eu/bitcoin-tax-haven-germany/Its likely that they would really be open in terms of cryptocurrency ventures or investments that would run up under their jurisdiction and since they do have positive perspective towards crypto then there no doubt that there would be no problems in terms of legal aspect.Just one thing comes to my mind on why they do banned out Visa and mastercard.So gambling places out there or owners wont really have any choice but to go along with new payment system which would be on crypto.They can still make profits on that.
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August 27, 2020, 08:30:07 AM |
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They are not allowing visa and mastercard for betting, but they are also not allowing people to access crypto betting websites like sportsbet, so it is not an easy solution. Problem is that I think other countries may follow German example, and that is bad. What is next? They can ban alcohol and bad food, and who knows what next and make one big concentration camp again. There must be some freedom and responsibility and less restrictions for online betting.
I believe every thing bad should be avoided/ban. But how do you determine what is truely bad or good? Bad foods, drunkenness, gambling are not good ofcourse. A responsible government should not allow those. Good Alcoholic drinks in moderation is good for the body. Betting on good games/competitions in moderation is good. Eating good food in moderation is also good for the body. It's about moderation and consumption of only good things
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August 27, 2020, 09:18:07 AM |
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They are not allowing visa and mastercard for betting, but they are also not allowing people to access crypto betting websites like sportsbet, so it is not an easy solution. Problem is that I think other countries may follow German example, and that is bad. What is next? They can ban alcohol and bad food, and who knows what next and make one big concentration camp again. There must be some freedom and responsibility and less restrictions for online betting.
I believe every thing bad should be avoided/ban. But how do you determine what is truely bad or good? Bad foods, drunkenness, gambling are not good ofcourse. A responsible government should not allow those. Good Alcoholic drinks in moderation is good for the body. Betting on good games/competitions in moderation is good. Eating good food in moderation is also good for the body. It's about moderation and consumption of only good things I forgot to warn, if alcohol, betting, or any particular food cause you addiction, it is wise to avoid them so you don't abuse or get addicted to them. I believe some are better at controlling themselves (self control) than others. I think it's a good idea to make something like alcohol bitter, sour, not-too-tasty etc, so that many who consume it don't easily get addicted. This also includes bettings and foods. You should try as much as possible (as producers esp) to remove/reduce things that cause those addiction, and/or loads the products with lots of beneficial things, so that even when the consumers get addicted to them, they gain lots of goods... and very little to no bad.
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August 27, 2020, 12:12:41 PM |
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They are not allowing visa and mastercard for betting, but they are also not allowing people to access crypto betting websites like sportsbet, so it is not an easy solution. Problem is that I think other countries may follow German example, and that is bad. What is next? They can ban alcohol and bad food, and who knows what next and make one big concentration camp again. There must be some freedom and responsibility and less restrictions for online betting.
Every country have their own regulation about gambling but this one is quite harsh because they totally shun every payment processor and this might include Cryptocurrency so they may not be surge after all the article says they will have regulation, what kind of that regulation when they are banning all kinds and forms of payment, they might totally ban it. They can only ban gambling sites which are in operation under their regulation, not a crypto gambling sites outside their country, so that would make bitcoin casino to surge in the crypto market, not in german market. I guess the title should be, bitcoin to surge in german market, not the casinos. This will help to surge the crypto gambling websites and also Germany have many players who love to gamble and if they are ready to do the crypto transaction then this online gambling sites here will see a lot many users from that region to joining them and gambling big. So, known gambling sites with good offers will attract more users now.
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August 27, 2020, 12:23:02 PM |
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They are not allowing visa and mastercard for betting, but they are also not allowing people to access crypto betting websites like sportsbet, so it is not an easy solution. Problem is that I think other countries may follow German example, and that is bad. What is next? They can ban alcohol and bad food, and who knows what next and make one big concentration camp again. There must be some freedom and responsibility and less restrictions for online betting.
Every country have their own regulation about gambling but this one is quite harsh because they totally shun every payment processor and this might include Cryptocurrency so they may not be surge after all the article says they will have regulation, what kind of that regulation when they are banning all kinds and forms of payment, they might totally ban it. They can only ban gambling sites which are in operation under their regulation, not a crypto gambling sites outside their country, so that would make bitcoin casino to surge in the crypto market, not in german market. I guess the title should be, bitcoin to surge in german market, not the casinos. This will help to surge the crypto gambling websites and also Germany have many players who love to gamble and if they are ready to do the crypto transaction then this online gambling sites here will see a lot many users from that region to joining them and gambling big. So, known gambling sites with good offers will attract more users now. We might also see new members in the forum as they might be curious to join as we have a lot of popular casinos using this forum for their announcement. Hopefully this would not only be a temporary success as regulators could also go after gamblers who use crypto to avoid regulation which is to ban the use of digital currencies to gamble.
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August 27, 2020, 06:09:20 PM |
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The main event there might be the crackdown of illegal gambling sites that has sprouted all across the country. Bitcoin casino owners should take advantage of the situation and make those previous fiat gamblers convert to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. This will be what I call the golden opportunity in which they can use to earn more and also help those who previously gamble in fiat to instead become cryptocurrency enthusiasts and also players. Whether its slots or poker it is a good time to be a Crypto casino owner.
It seems that many governments are still operating in a world in which bitcoin does not exist, I understand that governments need to crackdown on illegal gambling sites but it seems the German government wants to limit gambling itself as much as possible, and maybe something like that was possible in the fifties but we are in the 21 century and bitcoin exists so I have no doubt that all of those living in Germany that enjoy gambling will probably find in bitcoin a solution to their problems and to these unfair restrictions.
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August 28, 2020, 10:46:23 AM |
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They are not allowing visa and mastercard for betting, but they are also not allowing people to access crypto betting websites like sportsbet, so it is not an easy solution. Problem is that I think other countries may follow German example, and that is bad. What is next? They can ban alcohol and bad food, and who knows what next and make one big concentration camp again. There must be some freedom and responsibility and less restrictions for online betting.
How can they prevent visa or mastercard betting though? These days you can just buy a topup card for Visa and deposit it into the casino. Or just buy credit elsewhere for Paypal or whatever and get it done indirectly like that,,, I guess now everyone is going to follow Germany like you said because now they want their tax money on gambling. COVID effect;)
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August 29, 2020, 07:20:20 PM |
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The main event there might be the crackdown of illegal gambling sites that has sprouted all across the country. Bitcoin casino owners should take advantage of the situation and make those previous fiat gamblers convert to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. This will be what I call the golden opportunity in which they can use to earn more and also help those who previously gamble in fiat to instead become cryptocurrency enthusiasts and also players. Whether its slots or poker it is a good time to be a Crypto casino owner.
It seems that many governments are still operating in a world in which bitcoin does not exist, I understand that governments need to crackdown on illegal gambling sites but it seems the German government wants to limit gambling itself as much as possible, and maybe something like that was possible in the fifties but we are in the 21 century and bitcoin exists so I have no doubt that all of those living in Germany that enjoy gambling will probably find in bitcoin a solution to their problems and to these unfair restrictions. These kind of restrictions are not going to help if the government want to stop people from gambling activities.It is unfair to restrict the gambling desire but government can do anything if they want.If crypto gambling casinos increases then they will also create more restrictions to it later so online gambling is the best option for those people.
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August 29, 2020, 09:15:05 PM |
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We can't conclude yet if it is going to be good for bitcoin. Just like this scenario which I will quote, could also happen in terms of bitcoin. Banning the common online payments through casinos doesn't mean an edge for bitcoin in that country if we're not familiar with their governing rules. They are not allowing visa and mastercard for betting, but they are also not allowing people to access crypto betting websites like sportsbet, so it is not an easy solution. Problem is that I think other countries may follow German example, and that is bad. What is next? They can ban alcohol and bad food, and who knows what next and make one big concentration camp again. There must be some freedom and responsibility and less restrictions for online betting.
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August 29, 2020, 09:41:08 PM |
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They are not allowing visa and mastercard for betting, but they are also not allowing people to access crypto betting websites like sportsbet, so it is not an easy solution. Problem is that I think other countries may follow German example, and that is bad. What is next? They can ban alcohol and bad food, and who knows what next and make one big concentration camp again. There must be some freedom and responsibility and less restrictions for online betting.
I believe every thing bad should be avoided/ban. But how do you determine what is truely bad or good? Bad foods, drunkenness, gambling are not good ofcourse. A responsible government should not allow those. Good Alcoholic drinks in moderation is good for the body. Betting on good games/competitions in moderation is good. Eating good food in moderation is also good for the body. It's about moderation and consumption of only good things I forgot to warn, if alcohol, betting, or any particular food cause you addiction, it is wise to avoid them so you don't abuse or get addicted to them. I believe some are better at controlling themselves (self control) than others. As they said, "hunger is the first element of self-discipline - if you can control what you eat and drink, you can control everything else", this is true actually coz it makes really sense. Basically it has something to do with the our mood or what we really think towards something. I think it's a good idea to make something like alcohol bitter, sour, not-too-tasty etc, so that many who consume it don't easily get addicted. This also includes bettings and foods. You should try as much as possible (as producers esp) to remove/reduce things that cause those addiction, and/or loads the products with lots of beneficial things, so that even when the consumers get addicted to them, they gain lots of goods... and very little to no bad.
I guess you haven't tasted an alcohol before, coz it does not really tasty at all, it is completely sour. anyways.. The addiction will be attained if the mind is not capable of handling itself, you'll be addicted once you think you're addicted to it, you know it to yourself but you just keep doing it coz you are accepting the delusional ;fact; that you are addicted.
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They can only ban gambling sites which are in operation under their regulation, not a crypto gambling sites outside their country, so that would make bitcoin casino to surge in the crypto market, not in german market. I guess the title should be, bitcoin to surge in german market, not the casinos.
If that is the case and the title should be bitcoin to surge in German market, not the casinos. then this thread should not be classified as a gambling discussion anymore but will be fall to legal Bitcoin category but OP specifically mention gambling in Germany with an article included in his thread, there's still no guaranteed rules here, because German is still creating a rules for this and we will have to wait 2021 before they will have one.
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August 30, 2020, 10:35:13 AM |
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As they said, "hunger is the first element of self-discipline - if you can control what you eat and drink, you can control everything else", this is true actually coz it makes really sense. Basically it has something to do with the our mood or what we really think towards something.
But when someone hunger, he will do anything, including steal other people's money. But as you said, it will be back to individuals on how they can control themselves, so they don't make something that will break the law. And related to gambling, if someone wants to make money fast, he will think that gambling is the right place to do, but if he realizes that it is difficult to make money from gambling, he will avoid that. Or he can play gambling, but he knows his limit, so he doesn't risk all of his money in gambling. I agree that many people become criminals because of hunger, therefore we must be able to control ourselves not to starve be our reason for breaking the law. Then regarding gambling, we shouldn't make gambling an instant source of income, because if we want to get money instantly, not by playing gambling. Playing gambling is just for entertainment, that's also with our provisions must be able to limit playing gambling, must be able to control ourselves to know when to stop. Don't get us addicted to gambling if our lives do not want to be destroyed.
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August 30, 2020, 02:10:39 PM |
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This will be a good step and opportunity for the entrance of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to be used on gambling sites as long as they won't get along into illegal casino sites that might cause for even cryptocurrencies to get banned by the government to be used on playing online gambling games.
There could be a good possibility that there will be a surge on the part of the Bitcoin casinos in Germany as long as they would be on the safe side which is not against the wants of the government to practically continue doing transactions to be able to continuously have a gambling experience online powered by cryptocurrency. The Bitcoin casino owners must just stick into the legal matters to avoid getting banned and be prohibited by the government so they must avoid negative linking of tolerating doing illegal transactions and just keep up on the safe side to make opportunity for a surge on Bitcoin casinos be made on the country of Germany.
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August 30, 2020, 05:42:48 PM |
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The step taken by the government is good to keep the common public away from gambling. Gambling sites opting for cryptocurrency makes easy way to the gamblers. Compared to most other countries Germany doesn't have a big number of gamblers. They're technology people who aren't much interested on luck than work.
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After the German government banned Visa and Mastercard in casinos in June and PayPal stopped processing online casino transactions because of sanctions last year things are starting to look good for bitcoin casinos in Germany. What do you think? By the way what is the legal status of cryptocurrencies in Germany ? Are they legal there ? I don't live in Germany but if the master/visa card and paypal is banned for usage in casino, then they can easily use bitcoins and crypto currencies if its legal.
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They really have this Top casinos in Germany, I think it is quite a paid site and biased, but atleast, it proves that bitcoin casino gambling in Germany is growing by seeing numerous new casinos available for people to play. The German Finance Ministry has put it in the private money category and promised that sales evaluated at less than 600 euros would not be taxed. More than 600 euros is already huge for most of the gamblers, but this is a good initiative to attract gamblers knowing that they didn't need to pay taxes if they just play with funds less than 600.
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August 31, 2020, 12:28:16 PM |
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They really have this Top casinos in Germany, I think it is quite a paid site and biased, but atleast, it proves that bitcoin casino gambling in Germany is growing by seeing numerous new casinos available for people to play. The German Finance Ministry has put it in the private money category and promised that sales evaluated at less than 600 euros would not be taxed. More than 600 euros is already huge for most of the gamblers, but this is a good initiative to attract gamblers knowing that they didn't need to pay taxes if they just play with funds less than 600. This would attract more users and already the trend in Germany what I know is that people love to gamble and when this type of interesting things comes up then people would get tempted to gamble as below 600 Euro does not attract any tax. This could be another reason that we might be seeing the new online gambling sites keeps coming this day.
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After the German government banned Visa and Mastercard in casinos in June and PayPal stopped processing online casino transactions because of sanctions last year things are starting to look good for bitcoin casinos in Germany. What do you think? By the way what is the legal status of cryptocurrencies in Germany ? Are they legal there ? I don't live in Germany but if the master/visa card and paypal is banned for usage in casino, then they can easily use bitcoins and crypto currencies if its legal. I am not sure but it should be.In the center of Vienna there is Bitcoin House a small bitcoin exchange there.Vienna is in Austria but most of the laws are almost the same in Germany and Austria.For the moment I haven’t heard anything calling bitcoin and cryptos as illegal in Germany.
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