Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024

[shinratensei_]

I would like to remove wenger from the list caused by he was not comparable to the klopp and ferguson. When did wenger win UCL with arsenal? Arsenal didn't have any on its trophy cabinet. I would like to rate klopp far better compared to the wenger. I don't know why but arsenal never had good coach that could bring the club to the big successful like won treble or quadple trophies (include UCL). Liverpool needs to work even harder as it's gonna face hard fixtures very soon. Haaland has projected to make his comeback as soon as possible and this is gonna be another disaster caused by the current line up of liverpool has not been tested against the strong club.

Even though chelsea was still at the 9th place but im still seeing as a worthy opponent for liverpool. I think that chelsea will try so hard in taking three points from liverpool soon. I took btts for this match and i hope my prediction was right.
It's just my 2 cents. I was making comparison between the achievements by wenger compared to the klopp. It must be noted that klopp was winning all of his trophies in arsenal in modern football too.

Our views are very different in looking at the criteria for the best coach, if you remove Wenger from the list of the best football coaches then I would actually put Wenger in the 2nd place for the best coach after Ferguson, If you football lovers from the past, of course you will understand that the Champions League trophy is not the main factor Measuring the greatness of a coach, has anyone stayed at a club for a long time apart from Wenger and Ferguson in coaching? Wenger is one of the coaches who can bring victory to his team without defeat in one season and until now no one has been able to break that record, if you compare Klopp and Wenger of course Klopp is still far behind Wenger even though Wenger has never won the Champions League, but Wenger has always remained able to continue to bring his team into the top 4 only by relying on young players and without a large budget from the club owner and even Arsenal has to continue to sell their star players just to cover the costs of building their stadium at that time, but is Arsenal out from top 10 in the English league standing? Of course not, because Wenger was able to rebuild the Arsenal squad well at that time.
Now let's imagine, would Klopp, Guardiola and anyone else who you think is a great coach be able to do like wenger?
So far, PSG, Manchester City, Chelsea and Liverpool coaches have only relied on the power of money to build their squads and this is different from Wenger, who was able to build a squad without large funds bro.
Do you think Klopp will be able to get the Champions League trophy if Liverpool don't give a lot of money to buy players?
Apart from that, please try to look at Klopp achievements without a Champions League trophy when coaching Dortmund, Wouldn't it be that if he was great without a large budget then he could also get a Champions League trophy with Dortmund, but in fact?

Wnger was only a good coach related in doing football business. Then you can blame the old owner of arsenal for that. It's owner's responsibility to prepare the funds to build the club. The history will be only remembering the winner. The trophy cabinet said it all. Even mourinho was not taking a long time just to surpass what achieved by wenger.
When you are asking someone about who is the winner of UCL and will you answer that with a club that never won UCL? If the problem was related to the budget and that's it owner's fault. That's the main role of owner and if arsenal don't get enough fund for that then blame the owner.
It's so clear that if when you were willing to build a strong club and having a lot of capital was a must. It's different with the team that was not putting winning a trophy as the main target. Arsenal spent so much money last season and yet it's still trophyless.

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[Solokan]

Very disappointing that Brighton couldn't get a goal... That's the only event in my multi bet that didn't work... I really expected a tough game for them, but I could not imagine that they would concede four goals from Luton... It was a big surprise for me...

In Luton's match against Brighton, I bet on Brighton's win because before competing against Luton, I looked at it in terms of strength. I saw that Brighton had a better performance than Luton. Of course, the ranking was also very different and what was even more surprising was that Luton managed to score a lot of goals against Brighton. . But yes, of course in football matches situations like this always happen often.

Adebayo really showed his prowess and he scored 3 goals and this was extraordinary and C.Ogbene also contributed 1 goal and scored a 4-1 win for Luton. Of course, these results make many people miss in predicting the outcome of the match.

I didn't expect that in the 1st minute, Adebayo was so great, he opened the first goal of the match, his header was really great and a classy pass from a Luton player which was successfully received and utilized by the Luton players was truly extraordinary and now Luton has moved up to 17th place.

In the next match, it looks like Newcastle will have to be careful against Luton because Luton's performance seems to be good. Rob Edwards was really great this time, he made a good strategy for the match against Brighton.

[Republikcoin.com]

Very disappointing that Brighton couldn't get a goal... That's the only event in my multi bet that didn't work... I really expected a tough game for them, but I could not imagine that they would concede four goals from Luton... It was a big surprise for me...

Really sorry for that, but you really need to understand that those teams that are in a relegation battle, betting against them this period of time is very risky because they knows that if they continue losing they will definitely go down, so in such senario, they will be playing their remaining matches like a cup final, so expect them to fight with everything they goth because they don't want to go down to the lower division, so from now till towards the end of the season, just be expecting more surprises in terms of results.

all teams want to do their best. but the result of the match was beyond predictions. however, Brighton is definitely more favored. but seeing these results will make all gamblers who bet very regretful.
if it was just a 1 or 2-goal win, it would still be understandable. but this is with 4 goals without reply. sad for Brighton.
Maybe it's true that Luton is trying to stay away from the relegation zone. especially from Everton who are very close to them.

I was not surprised by this result and in fact from the start I avoided betting on Brighton's victory because we can see in the last few matches that Luton's performance has been quite impressive and they have indeed identified that they have really recovered while this is in contrast to Brighton which is slowly Performance began to decline, Brighton's defeat was quite natural, but conceding so many goals was a bit surprising to many people.

[wmaurik]

the most surprising team this season is also surprisingly playing at home when the competition in the big 4 is very tight and needs points to lose. with the defeat of aston villa, the 5th ranked team totenham hotspur is very fortunate. most likely will be able to shift aston villa which is currently in 4th position.

The possibility is that if Tottenham Hotspur is able to beat Brentford in today's match at home with a fantastic number of goals. Because Tottenham Hotspur are only three points away from the Aston Villa team who lost yesterday's match at home when they hosted Newcastle United. Apart from that, Manchester City also has the potential to again take the runner-up position from Arsenal if they can win again at home today against Burnley.

[TastyChillySauce00]

Very unexpected result which we see today because surprisingly Luton can able to win with big scores from Brighton and starting the match as the favourite i have to says Brighton was performing poor because although they were dominate the game but Brighton can't gets much opportunities to scores but for Luton they were playing with very affective because they can utilized the mistakes from Brighton players to scores and so far this is the highest scores in a single match for Luton in Premier League and for Brighton this result makes their position still not change on league standings but most likely their position can be overtaked by Manchester United if they can win from Wolves

On the other hand Newcastle has successfully to ended their poor results by win from Aston Villa today and it was very fantastic because Newcastle has done this at Villa Park which is Aston Villa was very strong to playing at there previously and this loses is being an Aston Villa first loses during this season at home in Premier league

Im still wondering who the hell is still saying brighton is good? Zerbi was failed to help luton to perform better. As you can see that it's embarassing result to see that luton was beating brighton with 4 goals. It was also thrasing brighton like it was a mediocre club compared to the luton.
Im wondering what things that change the situation of luton a lot. The team is just playing even more carefully against its opponents and the players have been even more motivated to beat the big club. It's not my first time to see luton to perform very good like this.

People can't also believe that how luton thrashed brighton with cleansheet. Brighton's performing so poorly in this game and it's not even worthy enough to call brighton as a good club. This club is totally overrated club with all of its players. Look at how luton was beating it like it was nothing.
Im feeling very happy with this result caused by i remember how stingy zerbi is, it's now proving if brighton is not better than luton town. That's amazing performance from luton and team does have better team work in this game.

I was also aware if luton played even better since the match against chelsea. Chelsea was struggling to beat luton caused b the club was performing perfectly in the past. A surprise for brighton and i hope zerbi aware with the performance from his club.

[entertheabyss]

I was not surprised by this result and in fact from the start I avoided betting on Brighton's victory because we can see in the last few matches that Luton's performance has been quite impressive and they have indeed identified that they have really recovered while this is in contrast to Brighton which is slowly Performance began to decline, Brighton's defeat was quite natural, but conceding so many goals was a bit surprising to many people.

Roberto De Zerbi will ask himself, where did he go wrong because he can't explain to the team's board how challenging the game was for them at Kenilworth Road which led to them conceding a whole of 4 goals against an average side. Luton Town flogging Brighton & Hove Albion 4 nil which happens to be one of the embarrassing results so far this season. The Seagulls did dominated the game but ended up not doing the necessary, not applying more pressure on their opponents because if they actually trigger, they would have atleast gotten a goal.

[tusandii]

Very disappointing that Brighton couldn't get a goal... That's the only event in my multi bet that didn't work... I really expected a tough game for them, but I could not imagine that they would concede four goals from Luton... It was a big surprise for me...

Really sorry for that, but you really need to understand that those teams that are in a relegation battle, betting against them this period of time is very risky because they knows that if they continue losing they will definitely go down, so in such senario, they will be playing their remaining matches like a cup final, so expect them to fight with everything they goth because they don't want to go down to the lower division, so from now till towards the end of the season, just be expecting more surprises in terms of results.

all teams want to do their best. but the result of the match was beyond predictions. however, Brighton is definitely more favored. but seeing these results will make all gamblers who bet very regretful.
if it was just a 1 or 2-goal win, it would still be understandable. but this is with 4 goals without reply. sad for Brighton.
Maybe it's true that Luton is trying to stay away from the relegation zone. especially from Everton who are very close to them.

I was not surprised by this result and in fact from the start I avoided betting on Brighton's victory because we can see in the last few matches that Luton's performance has been quite impressive and they have indeed identified that they have really recovered while this is in contrast to Brighton which is slowly Performance began to decline, Brighton's defeat was quite natural, but conceding so many goals was a bit surprising to many people.

Yes, I think that Brighton is one of the clubs that is inconsistent because sometimes it looks strong to get consistent wins and surprisingly experiences a decline in performance and for me betting on an inconsistent club even betting on winning is something that is risky unless we choose to bet on other options perhaps there will be less risk of losing.
In fact, some time ago, I thought that Brighton would only look consistent when playing against clubs whose weaknesses they already knew and who often met to compete, so that Brighton could know the club's weaknesses, whereas the match against Luton was the first 3 meetings in a friendly match. and second last year but at that time Brighton played at home resulting in a big score and this time Luton was able to avenge the defeat with almost the same score.

In terms of ball possession, Brighton was superior and that was Brighton's mistake for holding the ball for too long, not having the speed to attack immediately, while Luton had low ball control but in terms of attacking, they had speed that was difficult to block.
It's natural for Brighton to lose and I'm sure there are lots of people who lost betting on Brighton winning.

[reagansimms]

Manchester City will host Burnley at home.Manchester City are the clear favorites and frankly I doubt that Burnley can score.When we look at the last meetings between the 2 teams, Burnley have scored only 1 goal in the last 10 meetings while Manchester City have scored 33 goals. Again, we can say that it is possible to find 3 goals in this encounter, so he plays with an average of 3 goals per game against his opponent.
The most important match of the day will undoubtedly be played between Liverpool and Chelsea.In the last 7 meetings between these teams, there has been no winner.In the last 7 meetings, we can say that the teams have even had difficulty in scoring goals against each other, but I do not expect this match to be without goals.2 teams have to win in this match and we can say that it is an important match especially for Liverpool.

Anyone who understands football will support Manchester City, as the favorite team, Manchester City will take advantage of the opponent's weaknesses to return to second place after being taken over by Arsenal. Another motivation also gives encouragement to Manchester City players because in another match Liverpool will face Chelsea.
Maybe Manchester City will achieve a big win over Burnley, Pep Guardiola troops always score more than one goal after the last time they were beaten by Aston Villa. Burnley, who are not considered in the EPL this season, will experience big difficulties at Manchester City headquarters. Vincent Kompany, who is trying to bring Burnley out of the relegation zone, will face tough opponents who will make it difficult for them to win.

[HajiBagi]

The only match in England where I was surprised was when Luton Town beat Brighton. Brighton are a strong team and not easily beaten in the league, but it was really interesting for me to see them concede 4 goals against Luton Town, a relegation candidate.Brighton may not finish in the top 4 but I think they should at least not lose points in such matches.Luton Town increased their points to 19 with this win.
Nottingham Forest couldn't win at home against Arsenal.Arsenal didn't give their opponent many chances.It was important for them to get 3 points from this difficult away game on their way to the championship.They could have scored more goals but I think we need to give them a little more time.They haven't been very good in recent weeks.

I wasn't surprised that Arsenal defeated Nottingham Forest at home because Arsenal performs better than Nottingham Forest does. If Arsenal didn't occasionally make mistakes that let the opposition beat them, Arsenal would be in a strong position or possibly at the top of the league table right now. However, Arsenal's performance this season was worse than it was last season, Arsenal didn't give Nottingham Forest a chance yesterday, which is excellent because if they give Nottingham forest a chance, When Nottingham Forest plays at home, they can be very dangerous, so Arsenal's performance yesterday scoring two goals ahead of Nottingham before they scored one back was commendable; otherwise, the game would not have ended 2-1.

The only thing about yesterday that surprised me was Luton Town and Brighton. To be honest, I did not think Luton Town would win; imagine defeating Brighton by four goals without Brighton scoring even one goal in response. That is just too much. Brighton played a very bad game yesterday; even though Luton Town defeated Brighton, Brighton should have been able to score at least one goal. To be honest, Brighton needs to take their performance more seriously. Yesterday's performance simply looked like it was made up of players who have never played for Brighton.

[Obim34]

Manchester City will host Burnley at home.Manchester City are the clear favorites and frankly I doubt that Burnley can score.When we look at the last meetings between the 2 teams, Burnley have scored only 1 goal in the last 10 meetings while Manchester City have scored 33 goals. Again, we can say that it is possible to find 3 goals in this encounter, so he plays with an average of 3 goals per game against his opponent.
The most important match of the day will undoubtedly be played between Liverpool and Chelsea.In the last 7 meetings between these teams, there has been no winner.In the last 7 meetings, we can say that the teams have even had difficulty in scoring goals against each other, but I do not expect this match to be without goals.2 teams have to win in this match and we can say that it is an important match especially for Liverpool.

Anyone who understands football will support Manchester City, as the favorite team, Manchester City will take advantage of the opponent's weaknesses to return to second place after being taken over by Arsenal. Another motivation also gives encouragement to Manchester City players because in another match Liverpool will face Chelsea.
Maybe Manchester City will achieve a big win over Burnley, Pep Guardiola troops always score more than one goal after the last time they were beaten by Aston Villa. Burnley, who are not considered in the EPL this season, will experience big difficulties at Manchester City headquarters. Vincent Kompany, who is trying to bring Burnley out of the relegation zone, will face tough opponents who will make it difficult for them to win.

Manchester City are surely going to retrieve their second position on the table after beaten Burnley to the dirt. Burnley is currently 19 position on the table and have no chance of winning any game, facing City and later on Fulham, it will be very tough for Burnley to escape relegation.

[Xcode7]

Manchester City will host Burnley at home.Manchester City are the clear favorites and frankly I doubt that Burnley can score.When we look at the last meetings between the 2 teams, Burnley have scored only 1 goal in the last 10 meetings while Manchester City have scored 33 goals. Again, we can say that it is possible to find 3 goals in this encounter, so he plays with an average of 3 goals per game against his opponent.
The most important match of the day will undoubtedly be played between Liverpool and Chelsea.In the last 7 meetings between these teams, there has been no winner.In the last 7 meetings, we can say that the teams have even had difficulty in scoring goals against each other, but I do not expect this match to be without goals.2 teams have to win in this match and we can say that it is an important match especially for Liverpool.

Anyone who understands football will support Manchester City, as the favorite team, Manchester City will take advantage of the opponent's weaknesses to return to second place after being taken over by Arsenal. Another motivation also gives encouragement to Manchester City players because in another match Liverpool will face Chelsea.
Maybe Manchester City will achieve a big win over Burnley, Pep Guardiola troops always score more than one goal after the last time they were beaten by Aston Villa. Burnley, who are not considered in the EPL this season, will experience big difficulties at Manchester City headquarters. Vincent Kompany, who is trying to bring Burnley out of the relegation zone, will face tough opponents who will make it difficult for them to win.

This is an unbalanced match, Burnley is not an opponent capable of putting high pressure on Manchester City.
Of course, Manchester City is quite the favorite to win the match and I'm sure no one doubts that because in terms of quality these two teams have very significant differences and also Manchester City is struggling in the top competition with Liverpool so they certainly won't make mistakes that result in failed to get full points in every match they played.

[Hirose UK]

Luton vs Brighton, which is lower team against an upper middle team, this was quite surprising match in my opinion and there really was an unbelievable surprise.
Previously I thought Luton would not win but they could provide surprise because they have quite dangerous front line, I predicted draw would be presented and betting on this match would be failure which might be completely unexpected.
Brighton is one of the strong team in the Premier League and they have managed to get quite lot of wins, but in the match against Luton, which is bottom team and is in the relegation zone, Brighton couldn't do much.
The 4 - 0 defeat was truly humiliating defeat for Brighton and very disappointed look appeared on the face of Roberto De Zerbi, Brighton coach.
Luton managed to make good use of the home game they had and Luton really optimized their front line into quite dangerous line-up.

[MAAManda]

Fulham vs Everton ended in a goalless draw.Both teams had plenty of chances but were awful in the final third.In total, the 2 teams had 46 shots in the match but none of them were on target.The teams need to improve a bit in that department. Everton have been in the relegation zone since the points were deleted and if they don't come back soon, they will be in trouble.Fulham are not doing too badly, but if they lose a few games in a row, they will also enter the troubled zone.

It was a really difficult match for both teams, they gave everything they had there, but they couldn't score a single goal. Just to correct it, in this match they had a total of 10 shots on target, Fulham had 6 and Everton had 4 more. So, it would be wrong to assume that both teams didn't do their best.

For Everton themselves, they have played 22 matches and got 18 points from all of those matches. There are still many opportunities for them to get out of the relegation zone as soon as possible, because the 2 teams above them are only mediocre teams who have 20 & 19 points. In the next PL match, they will face Tottenham Hotspur, not an easy task for Everton, but they have to show their toughness if they don't want to continue to be stuck at the bottom of the standings.

[Oluwa-btc]

I was not surprised by this result and in fact from the start I avoided betting on Brighton's victory because we can see in the last few matches that Luton's performance has been quite impressive and they have indeed identified that they have really recovered while this is in contrast to Brighton which is slowly Performance began to decline, Brighton's defeat was quite natural, but conceding so many goals was a bit surprising to many people.

Roberto De Zerbi will ask himself, where did he go wrong because he can't explain to the team's board how challenging the game was for them at Kenilworth Road which led to them conceding a whole of 4 goals against an average side. Luton Town flogging Brighton & Hove Albion 4 nil which happens to be one of the embarrassing results so far this season. The Seagulls did dominated the game but ended up not doing the necessary, not applying more pressure on their opponents because if they actually trigger, they would have atleast gotten a goal.

Give credits to Luton Town, finally Brighton became the scapegoat that fell for Luton Town finally. They're not a bad side whenever it get to playing. You'll get to fathom that when you go back and see how they've played against big sides like Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and lastly Manchester City.
They did play well against these side but one way or the other, they was unlucky and failed to convert tue chances to goal that did coke them ways in between.

That win saw Adebayo banging three goals to give his side the win against Brighton who are no doubts one of the best attacking side and build up from behind in the Premier League.

The win also saw em out of the relegation zones with just a point above Everton who drew them game yesterday. Tough times for Sean Dyche, Eh? He's good at this I must say, I've seen survive relegation zones but they can't continue this way next season. management of Eveton should get a new coach

[asriloni]

Aston Villa 1-3 Newcastle united

This is a big disaster for Aston Villa at Villa park, this is the first surprise Aston villa received this season, Newcastle united has finally ended Aston villa home unbeaten with 3-1, am a little bit disappointed to see their performance like this. Aston villa have given a chance for Arsenal to take the third now Arsenal are 3 points away from Aston villa.
Congratulation to Ollie WatkinsAston Villa for having 18 goals and assists in this season Premier league and also
Scored 50 goals in  131 games.

Luton Town 4-0 Brighton
Seeing this game wasn't surprised me at all because  Luton Town are very strong when playing home game, I know they are Capable of doing it because they are threatening to some big clubs, Luton Town really used an advantage to take the victory. I have confidence the Luton Town will be out of relegation zone.

the most surprising team this season is also surprisingly playing at home when the competition in the big 4 is very tight and needs points to lose. with the defeat of aston villa, the 5th ranked team totenham hotspur is very fortunate. most likely will be able to shift aston villa which is currently in 4th position.

Aston villa keeps get more and more bad result and this is also hurting the mentality from the players as well. AFCON was also impacting the performance from aston villa. The club was losing aaginst newcastle which is normally caused by these clubs were equal but this is bad for aston villa in long term.
I meant that if aston villa has been once again losing full points and it will make club slowly but surely goes down again to the bottom. It has become emery's task to solve the problem that has been encountered by the club. Aston villa needs to fix  the problem as soon as the club finds the major problem that is greatly affecting the performance from the club.

Another surprise was coming from how luton could get big win against brighton. It was making all of brighton fans are feeling so upset with the performance from the club. Im wondering why zerbi keeps repeat the same patter anytime while other club has been known so well about how to prevent the club that played fully in the ball possession.
In my opinion that if zerbi never learnt from what happened in the past. I don't know what things that make people called him as a good coach. he was overrated coach, and this is the fact. Brighton was only good for 1/4 season but it's going back to the what it used to be.

Aston villa needs to find the main problem as soon as possible it's quite good to see that luton was scoring 4 goals against brighton. It makes a lot of people feel shocked with the result. This is why i do like EPL coz it full of surprises.

[Ahli38]

This is an unbalanced match, Burnley is not an opponent capable of putting high pressure on Manchester City.
Of course, Manchester City is quite the favorite to win the match and I'm sure no one doubts that because in terms of quality these two teams have very significant differences and also Manchester City is struggling in the top competition with Liverpool so they certainly won't make mistakes that result in failed to get full points in every match they played.

The two really can't be compared. Because Manchester City is clearly at a different level to Burnley. So the only choice is a win for Manchester City or the very small possibility of a draw. But surprises can be happen. But it would be hard to believe if that happened in the Manchester City vs Burnley match. And what's more, in today's match Manchester City is the host. It is even reported that in this match Haaland will be allowed to play for a few minutes.
So there is a big possibility that Manchester City will win with a fairly large score. Burnley even only has 3 wins and 3 draws from 21 matches. So Burnley might just try to strengthen their defense in the match against Manchester City. Because they definitely realize that they will have difficulties in this match. And they have to think about creating a strong defensive fortress to repel attacks from Manchester City players.

[Toro iskandar]

It was a surprising match for me, the Aston Villa squad was able to beat Newcastle with a score of 1-3 and this was of course very scary for Aston Villa.
With Newcastle's mainstay central defender, Fabian Schar, who played extraordinary and was able to score two goals in the 32nd and 36th minutes, this was a sweet start to the first half for Newcastle and was followed by the excellence of Newcastle's player, Jacob. Murphy who also managed to break through. Aston Villa goal.
However, I saw that even though Aston Villa had conceded 3 goals, the players didn't just give up, they tried to catch up and scored a goal in the 71st minute. Until the end of the match, Aston Villa had to admit that they had to accept defeat and the Newcastle club accepted victory. .

[Barcode_]

It seems that Luton Town might have a slight chance to survive relegation this season if they are able to continue their magnificent performance against Brighton & Hove Albion yesterday for the rest of the remaining season. On the other hand, Burnley are still unable to shake off their horrible performance even when the season has stretched into the second half, I guess Burnley are likely to suffer another loss when they play against Manchester City today.

[Despairo]

Brighton conceded 4 goals against Luton Town is really shameful, although Brighton is a mediocre club, but they're never lose against weak clubs. Look at their recent history, Brighton only lose against Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Aston Villa, the rest they were win or draw.

Speaking about Manchester City vs Burnley, there's no way Manchester City will lose in this match, don't bet on ML, BTTS is more interesting since the odds @2.25.

[Majestic-milf]

It was a surprising match for me, the Aston Villa squad was able to beat Newcastle with a score of 1-3 and this was of course very scary for Aston Villa.

I think you meant to say that the Aston Villa squad were beaten by Newcastle. If you put it like that, it would seem confusing.
True, Aston Villa and Unai Emery surely didn't expect to get thrashed by Newcastle since they are a more consistent side when it comes to winning compared to Eddie Howe's men who can break your heart at every turn of the hat, and coupled with the fact that they've lost four of their league games, Aston Villa felt they had this game in the bag.The game was an interesting one to watch and for the first time in a long while, you could see the reason why Newcastle were a threat in the beginning of the season. They did not let Aston Villa breathe and this caused the hosts to make silly chances that Newcastle took advantage of.
 Right now, Aston Villa will need to get back to winning ways if they hope to remain in the top four. This dismal performance by them is making me think that their hurried move to second place, almost eyeing top was just an initial rush to things, well I'd say they better clean their houses else it will be the last time they see top four spot.