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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 39 (51.3%)
Liverpool - 11 (14.5%)
Arsenal - 21 (27.6%)
Chelsea - 0 (0%)
Manchester United - 4 (5.3%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (1.3%)
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September 30, 2024, 02:10:35 PM

When Ten Hag first stepped into the club, the players as well as the fans had high hopes, and honestly he was doing a great job, earning Manchester United awesome victories with his strategic signings and approaches, the problem I believe began from when Ten Hag started letting go off a few players that has contributed and we’re still actively contributing to the club for some reason I don’t know.

He was Ego and dumped Sancho at Chelsea, even though Sancho was very good. Just look at the current moment. Chelsea got better.

Ten Hag was completely sick last night against Tottenham.
1. Bruno Fernandes red card
2. Lost 0-3
3. I think Ten Hag's condition is under strong pressure.
4. Supporters singing the song "you're getting sack in the morning"
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September 30, 2024, 02:14:43 PM

I also think the same for the Manchester United team who have been playing really badly with no strategy of their own in every important game. The 0-3 defeat at home to Tottenham was very sad and also very painful for Manchester United because apart from the bad impact that Fernandes received in the match, namely the red card in the first half, there were also other impacts that other key players have received as you mentioned. So this will really be a big disaster for Manchester United if they can't survive in the Premier League for another season.
Manchester United defending strategy is so weak and vulnerable that anything can penetrate easily... Diogo Dalot would have prevented the first goal but he was already exhausted and started slagging away from Johnson.
In a counter attack like this, a winger from the opponent isn't supposed to tear up the defense. I've also observed that 2 goals were scored through dalot's wing, but the coach didn't observed that anyway.

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Manchester United can get all the whole players they want during the transfer window but that won't solve the problem, we can say that Manchester United has been amongst the most active team in Europe during the transfer window, making top signing on different positions but as the season has commenced we haven't seen that pay off.

The issue for Manchester United is the mentality not the money they have to spend. I must say that Ten Hag isn't the man Manchester United needs. The team goes into every season knowing they won't win the league, UCL and at their best they can only hope for the FA Cup. This isn't the mentality that kept Manchester United on top during sir Alex Ferguson era.

I often try to be objective, especially when many people corner Ten Hag. But until now United's performance remains unstable, even though they have recruited the players they wanted in the last summer transfer window. Honestly, I don't understand what's happening inside Manchester United. What's certain is that MU's performance is a mess. I wouldn't say that Ten Hag is a bad coach, but the efforts he made have not brought United to change. Even if Teh Hag was replaced, it's not certain that their new manager or coach would quickly improve the performance of The Red Devil. Unfortunately, I didn't watch the Manchester United versus Tottenham match. So, I can't research and review the course of the match carefully. What's certain is that the defeat at Old Trafford with a score of 0-3 was embarrassing for The Red Devil supporters. Well, to restore the glory days of The Red Devil like in the Sir Ferguson era seems difficult to realize. Just look, after his era, how many coaches have handled United. None of them were able to bring much better, and almost all of those coaches didn't last long. It seems that it is not a mental problem that needs to be fixed, but the discipline of the players. Plus, their management is often an issue. Anyway, in the future, if Ten Hag is unable to do his best for United. Then the choice is, resign or wait to be fired.

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September 30, 2024, 02:20:50 PM

And talking about the Liverpool VS Wolves match, in that match, Salah and his teammates played quite well. The reason is that in this match Liverpool played carefully and was well organized. So even though Liverpool didn't score many goals in this match, Liverpool could win the match well. And if Liverpool can maintain their good performance and consistently win in the English league, I think it is clear that Liverpool can become champions in the English league.
Previously I myself did not really think that Liverpool could overtake Manchester City, but in fact they managed to do this, with their victory against Wolves this made them get points that could be superior to Manchester City with the previous two matches only ending in a draw. With the journey still far away Liverpool is not safe enough because in my opinion there is still a threat that they could be shifted again.
Saying Liverpool can win the Premier League right now may be too early, but we don't know what the future will be like, whether Arsenal and Manchester City can take back their rankings or not, but what is clear is that Liverpool will definitely maintain their ranking by showing the best in their performance.

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September 30, 2024, 02:25:17 PM

Manchester United can get all the whole players they want during the transfer window but that won't solve the problem, we can say that Manchester United has been amongst the most active team in Europe during the transfer window, making top signing on different positions but as the season has commenced we haven't seen that pay off.

The issue for Manchester United is the mentality not the money they have to spend. I must say that Ten Hag isn't the man Manchester United needs. The team goes into every season knowing they won't win the league, UCL and at their best they can only hope for the FA Cup. This isn't the mentality that kept Manchester United on top during sir Alex Ferguson era.
When Ten Hag first stepped into the club, the players as well as the fans had high hopes, and honestly he was doing a great job, earning Manchester United awesome victories with his strategic signings and approaches, the problem I believe began from when Ten Hag started letting go off a few players that has contributed and we’re still actively contributing to the club for some reason I don’t know. Yeah he made some more pretty good signings but it’s quite unfortunate that the squad he built isn’t giving him the result he expected, I don’t know if I’ll say the teams aren’t compatible with each other or with the coach. It’s a pretty hard nut to crack.
It’s all disappointment right now, and the worst part is the fans have to face it. maybe Manchester United deserves what’s happening to them. These days, you need to play good football to win. however after this match, Erik ten Hag will definitely be under pressure, with only 2 wins out of 6 Premier League games. Ten Hag has really tried, but something is missing, and it’s hard to figure out. but i still have hope though, because the ability to bounce back stronger is what makes a team more united, and hopefully that’s what they’ll do.
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September 30, 2024, 02:30:48 PM

Mentality was not only Manchester United's problem. They also have tactical and decision-making problems. And look at their positioning against Tottenham above. Nearly all their players are in one patch of the pitch. This proves how they're having tactical problems on their side. Their forward looked too high. Their three midfielders are also occupying the same space. It makes their midfield hard to reach their forward. No doubt their attacker rarely get the ball. It makes them difficult to score.

I think Manchester United's problem is their tactical problem. Manchester United have a lot of talented players in their squad. And most of the players were bought by Manchester United management at high prices. But no player is able to play well with Manchester United consistently. The performance of Manchester United players is very erratic. Suddenly they surprise everyone with a great performance. But this team cannot continue the winning streak. Manchester United should look for an experienced coach. It is impossible to improve this squad with Ten Hag. Ten Hag failed despite ample time and opportunity.
That is the best solution that must be taken immediately by Manchester United management, looking for a new coach to replace Ten Hag. It is proven that he is unable to manage the team and the strategy he applies is mediocre and tends to fail, there is no improvement even though he has brought in several talented players, the Premier League has entered week 6 and Man United is in 12th position in the standings, it is very clear that it looks like an ordinary club that has no influence on the title fight.
The point is, I want him to get out of MU quickly.

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September 30, 2024, 02:45:19 PM

I also think the same for the Manchester United team who have been playing really badly with no strategy of their own in every important game. The 0-3 defeat at home to Tottenham was very sad and also very painful for Manchester United because apart from the bad impact that Fernandes received in the match, namely the red card in the first half, there were also other impacts that other key players have received as you mentioned. So this will really be a big disaster for Manchester United if they can't survive in the Premier League for another season.
Manchester United defending strategy is so weak and vulnerable that anything can penetrate easily... Diogo Dalot would have prevented the first goal but he was already exhausted and started slagging away from Johnson.
In a counter attack like this, a winger from the opponent isn't supposed to tear up the defense. I've also observed that 2 goals were scored through dalot's wing, but the coach didn't observed that anyway.

I agree with your analysis that the very poor defense in Manchester United's defense line is very questionable, of course there must be improvements in every line that all lines on every side of Manchester United are very concerning and until now, Ten Hag has always forced conditions like this and according to him the players in the squad are good, but it is not according to his expectations and in the end the bad results in every important match do not produce positive results, if this continues then Manchester United's position will continue to fall to the bottom of the standings.

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It’s all disappointment right now, and the worst part is the fans have to face it. maybe Manchester United deserves what’s happening to them. These days, you need to play good football to win. however after this match, Erik ten Hag will definitely be under pressure, with only 2 wins out of 6 Premier League games. Ten Hag has really tried, but something is missing, and it’s hard to figure out. but i still have hope though, because the ability to bounce back stronger is what makes a team more united, and hopefully that’s what they’ll do.
Manchester United fans have really been disappointed with Erik Ten Hag's coaching this season because Manchester United can't play better in front of their own fans so that really makes a lot of fans very disappointed with him at the moment. And I just think that for now Manchester United have to be able to survive in a difficult position so as not to be in a worse position when all the other teams are starting to rise like Chelsea now. So there is no other solution than changing the coach to make Manchester United better in the coming season.

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And talking about the Liverpool VS Wolves match, in that match, Salah and his teammates played quite well. The reason is that in this match Liverpool played carefully and was well organized. So even though Liverpool didn't score many goals in this match, Liverpool could win the match well. And if Liverpool can maintain their good performance and consistently win in the English league, I think it is clear that Liverpool can become champions in the English league.
Previously I myself did not really think that Liverpool could overtake Manchester City, but in fact they managed to do this, with their victory against Wolves this made them get points that could be superior to Manchester City with the previous two matches only ending in a draw. With the journey still far away Liverpool is not safe enough because in my opinion there is still a threat that they could be shifted again.
Saying Liverpool can win the Premier League right now may be too early, but we don't know what the future will be like, whether Arsenal and Manchester City can take back their rankings or not, but what is clear is that Liverpool will definitely maintain their ranking by showing the best in their performance.

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It is still too early to assume who will become the champion because the season has just started and it is still unclear which teams will be able to continue to be consistent. But it cannot be denied that Liverpool played well from the start, but it's a shame they had to lose to Nottingham Forest, though this could have been a match they could have won. The good thing is, that the defeat was a lesson for them and a reminder that if they were careless it could become a nightmare.

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It's incredible to see Chelsea back among the top four Premier League teams after spending the previous two seasons in the middle of the table. With four goals in the first half against Brighton, the same squad that beat Manchester United at home, it is clear that Chelsea has improved from the previous two seasons. Is it possible that Pochettino was the cause of Chelsea problems? This squad is different from the one Pochettino managed the previous season, despite Chelsea defeating Brighton both home and away the previous season, their performance is different this season, Chelsea is currently in the top four and has only lost one game.

If Chelsea continues in this pattern, they are likely to finish among the top four clubs. On the other hand, Guardiola will regret allowing Palmer to join Chelsea last season. I believe Guardiola wanted to keep Palmer for the future, and Palmer is unhappy to be benched without playing any games, and Palmer wants to join a squad where he can show his talents on the pitch.
There is no need to talk about who is to blame before because since the change of club leadership many things have changed with Chelsea, such as recruiting players where almost all new players are still very young. While this season has been extraordinary compared to the previous few seasons, Chelsea players are starting to look mature and able to adapt to the Premier League atmosphere. Enzo Maresca may be the key behind the revival of the team based at Stamford Bridge and he is really able to manage the young players very well. Palmer is the most phenomenal figure he has made a big contribution to The Blues so far.

Well, I think Pochettino was the reason for Chelsea's failure last season because, if am not mistaken, in every game Maresca always started with players who had already adapted to the league from the previous season, he did not start the players they recruited this season, and in every game that Chelsea has won this season, they started scoring from the first half, and these are the same players that Pochettino used last season. Maresca is an experienced manager who understands where the team problems are coming from, which is why he chose not to bother working with players who are unable to help the team this season, they informed Sterling that he will not be needed this season, and they took his jersey number and gave it to another player who deserves it.

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It’s all disappointment right now, and the worst part is the fans have to face it. maybe Manchester United deserves what’s happening to them. These days, you need to play good football to win. however after this match, Erik ten Hag will definitely be under pressure, with only 2 wins out of 6 Premier League games. Ten Hag has really tried, but something is missing, and it’s hard to figure out. but i still have hope though, because the ability to bounce back stronger is what makes a team more united, and hopefully that’s what they’ll do.
Manchester United fans have really been disappointed with Erik Ten Hag's coaching this season because Manchester United can't play better in front of their own fans so that really makes a lot of fans very disappointed with him at the moment. And I just think that for now Manchester United have to be able to survive in a difficult position so as not to be in a worse position when all the other teams are starting to rise like Chelsea now. So there is no other solution than changing the coach to make Manchester United better in the coming season.

Chelsea managed to have good results this season with a new coach but unfortunately, not for Manchester United. Because anyway, Erik ten Hak clearly did not succeed in making Manchester United better and thus, it would be natural and reasonable if Manchester United started looking for a new manager to replace Erik ten Hag. But, if Manchester United will still keep Erik ten Hag, then I think it is a strange decision, because only with the FA Cup trophy Manchester United is satisfied with the results made by Erik ten Hag, while for Manchester United fans are certainly very disappointed with the results of Manchester United at this moment after losing at home to Liverpool and Tottenham with a heavy score.

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September 30, 2024, 03:00:55 PM

Manchester United defending strategy is so weak and vulnerable that anything can penetrate easily... Diogo Dalot would have prevented the first goal but he was already exhausted and started slagging away from Johnson.
In a counter attack like this, a winger from the opponent isn't supposed to tear up the defense. I've also observed that 2 goals were scored through dalot's wing, but the coach didn't observed that anyway.


I thought I was the only One that figured out this, first I will say the players tracking down Van De Ven before he provided the assist were also at fault but I blame Dalot more. I am not taking anything from him, he has been an excellent player since last season but he has been caught off guard way too much on that left back position, something that even Ten Hag has to take the share of the blame, Ten Hag has been using Dalot as an inverted full back were he drifts more into the midfield to provide more depth there, it worked in two matches but it is not working against fast wingers as Dalot usually fails to fall back when caught off possession so this was on Ten Hag.

But in this particular match most especially this goal it was all on Dalot, even if his new role gets him exhausted in the match this was just less than five minutes into the game how can he get exhausted so early, he simply just stopped running and started calling for Offside which was a dumb decision to me and seriously he was the one to blame giving away such an early goal

That is the best solution that must be taken immediately by Manchester United management, looking for a new coach to replace Ten Hag. It is proven that he is unable to manage the team and the strategy he applies is mediocre and tends to fail, there is no improvement even though he has brought in several talented players, the Premier League has entered week 6 and Man United is in 12th position in the standings, it is very clear that it looks like an ordinary club that has no influence on the title fight.
The point is, I want him to get out of MU quickly.

I don’t think we will be seeing that soon, Manchester United already handed this man a new contract prior to the season so it won’t be an hasty decision to part ways with him and except this result gets bad than this, the have three fair premier league matches coming up with the likes of Aston Villa and West Ham the first two, if the managers gets to cough out some wins there then he can still buy himself time, but should he lose those matches then Manchester United might just have to pay him off then

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Mentality was not only Manchester United's problem. They also have tactical and decision-making problems. And look at their positioning against Tottenham above. Nearly all their players are in one patch of the pitch. This proves how they're having tactical problems on their side. Their forward looked too high. Their three midfielders are also occupying the same space. It makes their midfield hard to reach their forward. No doubt their attacker rarely get the ball. It makes them difficult to score.

I think Manchester United's problem is their tactical problem. Manchester United have a lot of talented players in their squad. And most of the players were bought by Manchester United management at high prices. But no player is able to play well with Manchester United consistently. The performance of Manchester United players is very erratic. Suddenly they surprise everyone with a great performance. But this team cannot continue the winning streak. Manchester United should look for an experienced coach. It is impossible to improve this squad with Ten Hag. Ten Hag failed despite ample time and opportunity.
You can't have a poor tactical plan and expect players of same club not to compromise their mentality especially when they're playing a big game like that of Manchester United vs Tottenham Hotspur English Premier League game yesterday. Basically, Manchester United problem is their manager who's failed to make the right tactical decisions as well introduce a playing style that brings out the best from his players. a good manager will use the current quality players at Manchester United and strongly contest for every available trophy. So the earlier they get rid of Erik ten Hag, the better for the club.

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When Ten Hag first stepped into the club, the players as well as the fans had high hopes, and honestly he was doing a great job, earning Manchester United awesome victories with his strategic signings and approaches, the problem I believe began from when Ten Hag started letting go off a few players that has contributed and we’re still actively contributing to the club for some reason I don’t know. Yeah he made some more pretty good signings but it’s quite unfortunate that the squad he built isn’t giving him the result he expected, I don’t know if I’ll say the teams aren’t compatible with each other or with the coach. It’s a pretty hard nut to crack.
Logically, if Manchester United can really reach the peak of its performance then you can be sure that Manchester City's dominance can be stopped. Liverpool and Arsenal, who have more quality players, have still failed in many seasons, so how can we expect Ten Hag to be able to make Manchester United lead and win many things. It's hard and really hard, so lower expectations so we can prevent more disappointment.

Ten Hag is definitely not the best for Manchester United so far, but I have to respect him because after all he has worked hard to build the team. The team's mentality is not very good and they have not been consistent throughout the season, so I can't expect much from it. Increasing squad depth is a good approach to increase Manchester United's chances in the title race, but this requires quite a lot of resources, that's the strategic approach.

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Damn, just observing slowly this, their defenders are not blocking the opposing players, but instead are watching their friends who are competing with the opposing attackers, without realizing that several other opposing players are already in front of them or even beside them very close to the goal. This is one of the reasons why their defense is so weak and they often concede goals. Some of them do not understand their positions and duties especially in critical moments like this. And unfortunately, moments like this often happen at Man United.

For some reason, this illustration really represents the condition of their defense.  Grin Grin

Source: Manchester United's defense against Tottenham Hotspur

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Played 6 matches, got 2 wins, 1 draw and 3 losses for a total of 7 points. That's what Manchester United have got so far this season, I don't think they deserve these conditions with the squad they have. Many people started to comment that ETH's strategy was not suitable for the players, some even linked it with Jadon Sancho who could perform well at Chelsea.

Their latest defeat at the Theater of Dreams against Tottenham Hotspur really surprised many people, is it time for ETH to leave Manchester United? If he really leaves, who do you think is a suitable manager at Manchester United?

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He was Ego and dumped Sancho at Chelsea, even though Sancho was very good. Just look at the current moment. Chelsea got better.

Ten Hag was completely sick last night against Tottenham.
1. Bruno Fernandes red card
2. Lost 0-3
3. I think Ten Hag's condition is under strong pressure.
4. Supporters singing the song "you're getting sack in the morning"
It looks like we'll get the news of ETH being fired soon. LOL

The problem now depends on how Man United management can control all of this. Although Ten Hag has not given a positive impact lately, if MU management still believes in the coach, surely Ten Hag will not be fired until the end of this season.
For me, if this season MU management still has high hopes for Ten Hag, we will see Man United in the worst performance throughout history.

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Manchester United can get all the whole players they want during the transfer window but that won't solve the problem, we can say that Manchester United has been amongst the most active team in Europe during the transfer window, making top signing on different positions but as the season has commenced we haven't seen that pay off.

The issue for Manchester United is the mentality not the money they have to spend. I must say that Ten Hag isn't the man Manchester United needs. The team goes into every season knowing they won't win the league, UCL and at their best they can only hope for the FA Cup. This isn't the mentality that kept Manchester United on top during sir Alex Ferguson era.
When Ten Hag first stepped into the club, the players as well as the fans had high hopes, and honestly he was doing a great job, earning Manchester United awesome victories with his strategic signings and approaches, the problem I believe began from when Ten Hag started letting go off a few players that has contributed and we’re still actively contributing to the club for some reason I don’t know. Yeah he made some more pretty good signings but it’s quite unfortunate that the squad he built isn’t giving him the result he expected, I don’t know if I’ll say the teams aren’t compatible with each other or with the coach. It’s a pretty hard nut to crack.
I totally agree with your analysis, I remember at the initial stage when Ten hag started having issues with the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo, which even lead yo his exit. From the reality of things I think Ten hag has issues in managing players with high profile, today Jordan Sancho is doing well with Chelsea, Ronaldo is still banging goals in Saudi, this where players Manchester united once had in their squared. I feel Ole was a better coach to Ten hag, I haven't really seen much magically formations that are well sustaining with him so far he has been managing this team, rather Manchester United is drifting towards a mediocre club day by day.











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Played 6 matches, got 2 wins, 1 draw and 3 losses for a total of 7 points. That's what Manchester United have got so far this season, I don't think they deserve these conditions with the squad they have. Many people started to comment that ETH's strategy was not suitable for the players, some even linked it with Jadon Sancho who could perform well at Chelsea.

Their latest defeat at the Theater of Dreams against Tottenham Hotspur really surprised many people, is it time for ETH to leave Manchester United? If he really leaves, who do you think is a suitable manager at Manchester United?


Manchester United have not given up on Erik Ten Hag. They believe in his ability to turn things around in the club, could it be that the bosses at Manchester United are seeing something that we can’t? Ten Hag’s building plan may look good on paper but the poor results are telling on the mentality of the players. I suspect the players are beginning to doubt the strategy of the manager and are not following his instructions. Manchester United should sack Erik Ten Hag and bring in a manager that will instill confidence in the players.

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Played 6 matches, got 2 wins, 1 draw and 3 losses for a total of 7 points. That's what Manchester United have got so far this season, I don't think they deserve these conditions with the squad they have. Many people started to comment that ETH's strategy was not suitable for the players, some even linked it with Jadon Sancho who could perform well at Chelsea.

Their latest defeat at the Theater of Dreams against Tottenham Hotspur really surprised many people, is it time for ETH to leave Manchester United? If he really leaves, who do you think is a suitable manager at Manchester United?


Manchester United have not given up on Erik Ten Hag. They believe in his ability to turn things around in the club, could it be that the bosses at Manchester United are seeing something that we can’t? Ten Hag’s building plan may look good on paper but the poor results are telling on the mentality of the players. I suspect the players are beginning to doubt the strategy of the manager and are not following his instructions. Manchester United should sack Erik Ten Hag and bring in a manager that will instill confidence in the players.

Erik ten Hag would, at any rate, be given plenty of opportunities at Manchester United with the full backing and the belief he could have turned things around. A reputation for being a very strict coach, the ability to build strong teams— this is what he proved at Ajax. His idea about team-building on paper seemed quite promising, especially regarding the acquisition of players by whom the quality of the team could have been uplifted.

Regrettably, the results up to now have not matched the level of the fans or the club. Manchester United still show this inconsistency on the field—though there are bouts of good moments, this is encapsulated by the team’s performances on the whole. The question then arises as to whether there is implementation from the players in reality as well as at the ground level of the strategy that Ten Hag wants to see, or deeper trust issues in the dressing room with the manager.

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