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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 40 (50.6%)
Liverpool - 12 (15.2%)
Arsenal - 22 (27.8%)
Chelsea - 0 (0%)
Manchester United - 4 (5.1%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (1.3%)
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September 14, 2022, 11:52:57 AM
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Sadio Mane was a key player in the Liverpool team and his absence have left a major gap that even the new replacement have not been able to fill in. I bet they are suffering the kick back of their decision made in the summer window. Mane was always there in tough games like this and always had his ways of getting the goals out of the blue and now they lack that kind of player that will always put in that extra effort and pull them through.
Haaland has often been linked with Nunez this season as these two players both came to the EPL this summer. If Haaland is better then Nunez is the comparison and that is as common in today's era as Ronaldo and Messi. But looking at the performance of the two teams between Liverpool and Manchester city, Liverpool were slightly behind at the start of this season, in contributing to the team Haaland was better than Nunez because Haaland had proven his quality as a goal-hungry player. Nunez has not been able to repair the gap left by Sadio Mane which is what makes him slightly behind Haaland.

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September 14, 2022, 12:17:33 PM
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Haaland has often been linked with Nunez this season as these two players both came to the EPL this summer. If Haaland is better then Nunez is the comparison and that is as common in today's era as Ronaldo and Messi. But looking at the performance of the two teams between Liverpool and Manchester city, Liverpool were slightly behind at the start of this season, in contributing to the team Haaland was better than Nunez because Haaland had proven his quality as a goal-hungry player. Nunez has not been able to repair the gap left by Sadio Mane which is what makes him slightly behind Haaland.
Haaland really made Manchester City officials and Pep Guardiola very satisfied with his performance, while Nunez, who was brought in by Liverpool at an expensive price, had not been able to show the best performance like last season.
Haaland and Nunez both performed brilliantly last season with their respective clubs. Haaland was able to improve his form after moving to the EPL, while Nunez is still struggling to perform well with Liverpool. After seeing Haaland performances with Manchester City who continued to score goals, it further strengthened the assumption that he would succeed in becoming the ELP Top Scorer in his first season.

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September 14, 2022, 12:33:39 PM
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Haaland has often been linked with Nunez this season as these two players both came to the EPL this summer. If Haaland is better then Nunez is the comparison and that is as common in today's era as Ronaldo and Messi. But looking at the performance of the two teams between Liverpool and Manchester city, Liverpool were slightly behind at the start of this season, in contributing to the team Haaland was better than Nunez because Haaland had proven his quality as a goal-hungry player. Nunez has not been able to repair the gap left by Sadio Mane which is what makes him slightly behind Haaland.
It looks like Nunez has taken on the brunt of a position he has absolutely no control over at Liverpool. Replacing Mane up front is not easy. If we look at the current Mane is much more aggressive than at Liverpool and Nunez position will not be comparable to being able to match the Premier League with Haaland. I certainly agree that Haaland has shown a thirst for goals and has always had an aggressive level on the pitch more than anyone else. Whether it's true or not, for the time being, Nunez has lost quite a bit of prestige from Haaland.

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September 14, 2022, 12:37:44 PM
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Liverpool made a very awful decision. I never knew they underrated that super star because of his kind of person, because of his humility and calmness they failed to understand the level of his work rate.
Mate i think you are absolutely blowing things out of proportion here, to say Liverpool underrated Sadio Mane because he is 'kind' and 'humble' does not make too much sense if you ask me, Mane was respected by all of Liverpool, from the manager to the fans, and they never wanted him to go, it was Sadio Mane that told the club he wanted to try out a different challenge somewhere else, and mind you that when a player has helped a club achieve so much, the club can hardly hold them back against their will, that was why Liverpool let Mane go.

Having said that, i find it funny that people are constantly connecting Liverpool's poor run of form at the start of the season to Mane's departure, i mean, they miss Mane quite alright, but that is definitely not why the team has started poorly, Mane was just a single player, this problem right here is a collective one, and Mane has not even been at his excellent best in Munich, yeah he scored a couple of goals at the start of the season, but he is yet to be a game changer for Bayern Munich or cement his place in their team.
Well it's not a bad thing for Liverpool to release Sadio Mane because of his own desire to accept a new challenge at a new club so Liverpool gives freedom wherever he wants so I think there is no need to blame Liverpool because for me the management has tried to keep it but it failed but it wasn't. means bad but can find a new replacement with the same expectations in the player.

It's relevant for me the start of the season is not bad but Liverpool is still a good standard even with 2 wins and 1 draw in the last 3 games for me it's still quite good even though the standings are in 7th place but I believe Liverpool can still rise in the UCL and EPL .

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September 14, 2022, 12:41:00 PM
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Arsenal had a very good record before being defeated when visiting Man United, the young players owned by the Gunners had a massive impact, especially the new players. Arsenal are a great team, there is togetherness and teamwork. however arsenal have a very tight schedule because apart from having to think about domestic competitions, there is also a Europa competition that must be followed and Arteta cannot depend on the first eleven line-up continuously. missing several players due to injury and lack of qualified second tier players to keep them consistent until the end of the season.

IMO, if Arteta has no other options I'm not sure arsenal can maintain its first place in the premier league standings.
Arsenal's current weakness is that their back-up players don't seem ready to replace positions that are sometimes left by their main players. Looks like they have to find a way to make this worry not really happen. They have to make rotations that can work well in each position. Otherwise, as you said, the possibility of them losing their position in the standings is wide open.

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September 14, 2022, 12:50:39 PM
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Arsenal had a very good record before being defeated when visiting Man United, the young players owned by the Gunners had a massive impact, especially the new players. Arsenal are a great team, there is togetherness and teamwork. however arsenal have a very tight schedule because apart from having to think about domestic competitions, there is also a Europa competition that must be followed and Arteta cannot depend on the first eleven line-up continuously. missing several players due to injury and lack of qualified second tier players to keep them consistent until the end of the season.

IMO, if Arteta has no other options I'm not sure arsenal can maintain its first place in the premier league standings.
Arsenal's current weakness is that their back-up players don't seem ready to replace positions that are sometimes left by their main players. Looks like they have to find a way to make this worry not really happen. They have to make rotations that can work well in each position. Otherwise, as you said, the possibility of them losing their position in the standings is wide open.
Even before the game against Manchester United, I concluded that Arsenal almost got a draw against Aston Villa. So even though Arsenal have second-tier players who may have good quality too I'm still not sure Arsenal will be able to maintain consistency throughout this season. The Premier League has become very competitive from season to season, so how good the quality of their squad is I personally am not sure the teams in the Premier League today can be consistent including Manchester City as well.

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September 14, 2022, 01:10:51 PM
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It's relevant for me the start of the season is not bad but Liverpool is still a good standard even with 2 wins and 1 draw in the last 3 games for me it's still quite good even though the standings are in 7th place but I believe Liverpool can still rise in the UCL and EPL .
Whilst Liverpool will definitely get better as the games come, without mincing words it has been a very far from good start for Liverpool, i think they are five points behind City already, now imagine a situation were that gap widens, that prolly means Liverpool can forget about the title, so there is no question of that, Liverpool have started badly in the EPL. It has been them and City going hammer and tongs for the title for the past couple of seasons now, but if they don't improve, and fast, then it might be City and Arsenal, or some other team competing for the title this season.

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September 14, 2022, 01:39:16 PM
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It's relevant for me the start of the season is not bad but Liverpool is still a good standard even with 2 wins and 1 draw in the last 3 games for me it's still quite good even though the standings are in 7th place but I believe Liverpool can still rise in the UCL and EPL .
Whilst Liverpool will definitely get better as the games come, without mincing words it has been a very far from good start for Liverpool, i think they are five points behind City already, now imagine a situation were that gap widens, that prolly means Liverpool can forget about the title, so there is no question of that, Liverpool have started badly in the EPL. It has been them and City going hammer and tongs for the title for the past couple of seasons now, but if they don't improve, and fast, then it might be City and Arsenal, or some other team competing for the title this season.

I think Liverpool's problem is that their offense doesn't work well reliably. If you deduct the 9 -0 against Bournemouth, they scored 6 goals in 5 games. Then also the game against Newcastle, which they won in the 8th minute of extra time. Yes City also has two ties in the EPL, but they have been very superior in almost all games. I don't have that impression when it comes to Liverpool and this is not to be confused with purely ball possession statistics. They do possess the ball more, they have more shots, but something has been missing for a couple of weeks now that usually made them so strong. If you then also take the loss against Napoli into account, it is quite evident that they are quite far away from their best level. The 5 points gap to City is still not as bad as it seems, but staying close to City is brutally hard anyway as we all know. If you want to put City under pressure you just can't give away points frequently. It is exactly when City ties a game that you need to be there.

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September 14, 2022, 01:52:35 PM
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Still, with their current condition and with their quality, it can still be called bad even though they only suffered 2 defeats earlier this season.
My initial expectation was that they played this very well at the start so when they didn't turn out as I expected it was clear it's still bad especially with their goal productivity which is arguably lacking at the moment.

It is undeniable that Liverpool's goal productivity is very low at the moment we don't even see any of their players on the top scorer list
Even though last season they had 2 players there Moh salah and Mane while Darwin Nunez who became hopeful hasn't done anything yet.
I find it difficult to see what is happening for Liverpool now because in terms of performance and attack they are still very good and actually their productivity is still very good in my opinion because they managed to score 15 goals but indeed in this case they are still struggling to become Targetman because the goals they create come from several different players.

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September 14, 2022, 02:36:11 PM
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I find it difficult to see what is happening for Liverpool now because in terms of performance and attack they are still very good and actually their productivity is still very good in my opinion because they managed to score 15 goals but indeed in this case they are still struggling to become Targetman because the goals they create come from several different players.

Fifteen goals was because they were able to make 9 goals in 1 game against Bornemouth. I think at the moment they have not performed stable. Some games they lost. Though their players' stats are superior. Nunez as Mane's replacement has not been able to make Liverpool feel calm. When Moh Salah was locked they often had trouble making goals. Indeed their last Win against Ajax in the UCL.  Actually, I was waiting for their game against Chelsea. But if you look at the schedule on google it seems that the match was also postponed.

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September 14, 2022, 03:02:09 PM
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I find it difficult to see what is happening for Liverpool now because in terms of performance and attack they are still very good and actually their productivity is still very good in my opinion because they managed to score 15 goals but indeed in this case they are still struggling to become Targetman because the goals they create come from several different players.

Fifteen goals was because they were able to make 9 goals in 1 game against Bornemouth. I think at the moment they have not performed stable. Some games they lost. Though their players' stats are superior. Nunez as Mane's replacement has not been able to make Liverpool feel calm. When Moh Salah was locked they often had trouble making goals. Indeed their last Win against Ajax in the UCL.  Actually, I was waiting for their game against Chelsea. But if you look at the schedule on google it seems that the match was also postponed.
Yes, it looks like it has been postponed, even though it will be an important match for both of them as proof of the new Chelsea coach and also seeing Liverpool's performance against top teams whether there will still be a deadlock. Because even though yesterday Liverpool won against Ajax in the Champions League, basically Liverpool also got a deadlock until finally Joel Matip was able to score a goal towards the end of the match. With poor results in the last few matches, at least I assume the performance of Chelsea and Liverpool is not much different, so choosing them at this moment becomes an option that must be considered again.

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September 14, 2022, 03:23:04 PM
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I find it difficult to see what is happening for Liverpool now because in terms of performance and attack they are still very good and actually their productivity is still very good in my opinion because they managed to score 15 goals but indeed in this case they are still struggling to become Targetman because the goals they create come from several different players.

Fifteen goals was because they were able to make 9 goals in 1 game against Bornemouth. I think at the moment they have not performed stable. Some games they lost. Though their players' stats are superior. Nunez as Mane's replacement has not been able to make Liverpool feel calm. When Moh Salah was locked they often had trouble making goals. Indeed their last Win against Ajax in the UCL.  Actually, I was waiting for their game against Chelsea. But if you look at the schedule on google it seems that the match was also postponed.
Yes, it looks like it has been postponed, even though it will be an important match for both of them as proof of the new Chelsea coach and also seeing Liverpool's performance against top teams whether there will still be a deadlock. Because even though yesterday Liverpool won against Ajax in the Champions League, basically Liverpool also got a deadlock until finally Joel Matip was able to score a goal towards the end of the match. With poor results in the last few matches, at least I assume the performance of Chelsea and Liverpool is not much different, so choosing them at this moment becomes an option that must be considered again.
Liverpool performed well against a weak team Bournemouth. after that Liverpool's appearance was mediocre. It's a shame this match had to be postponed.
but there is also an advantage for both of them to be able to focus more on training from the correction of the previous match.
Chelsea must also prepare their squad for other Champions League matches. Chelsea must be able to perform better with its new coach. before the match against a strong Serie A team in the Champions League.

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September 14, 2022, 03:23:42 PM
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Haaland has often been linked with Nunez this season as these two players both came to the EPL this summer. If Haaland is better then Nunez is the comparison and that is as common in today's era as Ronaldo and Messi. But looking at the performance of the two teams between Liverpool and Manchester city, Liverpool were slightly behind at the start of this season, in contributing to the team Haaland was better than Nunez because Haaland had proven his quality as a goal-hungry player. Nunez has not been able to repair the gap left by Sadio Mane which is what makes him slightly behind Haaland.
It looks like Nunez has taken on the brunt of a position he has absolutely no control over at Liverpool. Replacing Mane up front is not easy. If we look at the current Mane is much more aggressive than at Liverpool and Nunez position will not be comparable to being able to match the Premier League with Haaland. I certainly agree that Haaland has shown a thirst for goals and has always had an aggressive level on the pitch more than anyone else. Whether it's true or not, for the time being, Nunez has lost quite a bit of prestige from Haaland.
I think we can't be decisive in that even though Haaland has been the top scorer with 10 goals, Nunez is currently not giving his best performance and as for comparing to Mane I think it will be different but Nunez may need a little more time to process to become his front line is sharp and aggressive but I don't think I can conclude it myself but for sure Nunez still has good abilities at Liverpool and they are still relatively young so there is still a long time as a process of adaptation in Liverpool.

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September 14, 2022, 03:24:58 PM
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Manchester City's form this season cannot be compared with Liverpool's poor form. Liverpool have some work to do to get them back to winning again. Manchester city are looking much more favorites to win the league again this season, Arsenal have showed they can be competitive but I doubt their squad is good enough to carry them till the end of the season.
Liverpool's inconsistency at the start of this season has made them doubtful about being able to continue to compete in the top flight.  I think this season again belongs to Manchester City because they have a fairly complete squad so it's very difficult to beat.  Arsenal are not strong enough to last until the end of the season, control the champions league zone until the end of the season I think something great achievement for them.  Manchester United and Tottenham will be tight competitors and will be a bully to Manchester City.
Luckily Manchester City managed to get Erling Haaland because his presence can make progress for Manchester City and it has been seen that his contribution there is very much because so far Erling Haaland has scored 12 goals in eight matches that have taken place, so this is really a great achievement for the club. Erling Haaland early in his career at Manchester City.
The major priority for Man City this season is winning UCL trophy which eluded them last season due to non availability of a competent striker, Guordiola resorted to play false nine in crucial matches, I believed the signing of Erling Haaland will address that problem now, as for the league No team can match the club presently, it's Man City first while others follows though Arsenal is showing some remarkable performance and improvement this season, however I don't think they can be consistent in winning their matches partly due to injury to some of their key players and lack of depth in their squad, While Tottenham had improved too, Chelsea and Liverpool are still struggling with form.

I don't think that Arsenal will be able to hold on to their performance until the end of the season because they don't have that much squad depth. Manchester City really lacked a lethal striker for the last few seasons after Sergio Aguero left. But now as they have bought Erling Haaland, they will really try to push for the Champions League title which they have been wanting to win for the first seasons but were unable to do so.

So far Haaland has shown what he is capable of as he scored 10 goals in only 6 matches. So far Chelsea and Liverpool have been playing their game this season so Manchester City might have a really good opportunity to grab this and be the best team in England and possibly Europe.

I think that this is to early to come to such conclusions although I agree with you,Manchester City needed a perfect striker from quite some years now,they were lacking in the Champions League because of that,especially last year where they got eliminated.In the Premier League though they are doing great again and having a squad depth means it can only increase your chances to become Champions especially when your contenders like Liverpool and Chelsea are screwing up game after game.

Moreover, Haaland's father was also a former Manchester City player. In this respect, Haaland may also have an emotional connection with Manchester City. Manchester City have not seen such a finishing striker since Prime Aguero era. They really needed Haaland and will want Haaland to play for many years to come.

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September 14, 2022, 03:27:17 PM
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It's relevant for me the start of the season is not bad but Liverpool is still a good standard even with 2 wins and 1 draw in the last 3 games for me it's still quite good even though the standings are in 7th place but I believe Liverpool can still rise in the UCL and EPL .
Whilst Liverpool will definitely get better as the games come, without mincing words it has been a very far from good start for Liverpool, i think they are five points behind City already, now imagine a situation were that gap widens, that prolly means Liverpool can forget about the title, so there is no question of that, Liverpool have started badly in the EPL. It has been them and City going hammer and tongs for the title for the past couple of seasons now, but if they don't improve, and fast, then it might be City and Arsenal, or some other team competing for the title this season.
Now the conditions are much better than before I think regardless of how they are still very difficult to find to block the opponent's counterattack still at this time for the EPL their ranking is much better than before and that is something that is quite good for them.
At least with this result Klopp is still quite safe even though the demands to continue to improve the team continue and indeed it must be done.

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September 14, 2022, 03:55:28 PM
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It looks like Nunez has taken on the brunt of a position he has absolutely no control over at Liverpool. Replacing Mane up front is not easy. If we look at the current Mane is much more aggressive than at Liverpool and Nunez position will not be comparable to being able to match the Premier League with Haaland. I certainly agree that Haaland has shown a thirst for goals and has always had an aggressive level on the pitch more than anyone else. Whether it's true or not, for the time being, Nunez has lost quite a bit of prestige from Haaland.
I think we can't be decisive in that even though Haaland has been the top scorer with 10 goals, Nunez is currently not giving his best performance and as for comparing to Mane I think it will be different but Nunez may need a little more time to process to become his front line is sharp and aggressive but I don't think I can conclude it myself but for sure Nunez still has good abilities at Liverpool and they are still relatively young so there is still a long time as a process of adaptation in Liverpool.

If a comparison is made, Haaland is better than Nunez in his first season playing in the EPL. Haaland has been a scary bomber in the EPL With 10 goals in 6 games, while Nunez has not been able to score half of the number of goals Haaland has earned. Nunez still needs time to prove everything, he is still very young and his goal-scoring instincts are very high. His first season in the EPL can't be said to be perfect, because he still needs adaptation on English soil, especially in terms of language.

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September 14, 2022, 04:49:46 PM
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Manchester City's form this season cannot be compared with Liverpool's poor form. Liverpool have some work to do to get them back to winning again. Manchester city are looking much more favorites to win the league again this season, Arsenal have showed they can be competitive but I doubt their squad is good enough to carry them till the end of the season.

Liverpool's inconsistency at the start of this season has made them doubtful about being able to continue to compete in the top flight.  I think this season again belongs to Manchester City because they have a fairly complete squad so it's very difficult to beat.  Arsenal are not strong enough to last until the end of the season, control the champions league zone until the end of the season I think something great achievement for them.  Manchester United and Tottenham will be tight competitors and will be a bully to Manchester City.
Luckily Manchester City managed to get Erling Haaland because his presence can make progress for Manchester City and it has been seen that his contribution there is very much because so far Erling Haaland has scored 12 goals in eight matches that have taken place, so this is really a great achievement for the club. Erling Haaland early in his career at Manchester City.
Man City have found the missing link. Having a clear striker has been Guardiola's problem for the last few years and I think he has finally fixed it. I hate to admit it but I think Man city will finally get another EPL title this season even UCL Champions. Haaland is a monster for EPL and UCL clubs
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September 14, 2022, 04:50:41 PM
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Arsenal's current weakness is that their back-up players don't seem ready to replace positions that are sometimes left by their main players. Looks like they have to find a way to make this worry not really happen. They have to make rotations that can work well in each position. Otherwise, as you said, the possibility of them losing their position in the standings is wide open.

You're right about that, it's not enough that they started the league well. Premeir League is one of the most difficult leagues and there must be enough players in the team, Arsenal can have a hard time if any injury occurs. I think they have a large enough roster right now, but it is very difficult to replace some players.
Unfortunately, there is not much that can be done about this anymore Smiley

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September 14, 2022, 04:56:41 PM
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I don't think that Arsenal will be able to hold on to their performance until the end of the season because they don't have that much squad depth. Manchester City really lacked a lethal striker for the last few seasons after Sergio Aguero left. But now as they have bought Erling Haaland, they will really try to push for the Champions League title which they have been wanting to win for the first seasons but were unable to do so.

So far Haaland has shown what he is capable of as he scored 10 goals in only 6 matches. So far Chelsea and Liverpool have been playing their game this season so Manchester City might have a really good opportunity to grab this and be the best team in England and possibly Europe.
Inconsistent performance have been usually faced by Arsenal not in this season but also almost every season Arsenal can't hold the best performance until the end of this season. But have advantage with Arsenal start on Primer League because last six games have 5 won and 1 loss, settle first standing position is great achievement by Arsenal in this season.

Manchester City have found and settle best striker in this season after Erling Haaland make Pep Guardiola sastified with his performance and success lead top scorer standing position awhile with 10 goals contribution in last six games. Not only success lead goals in domestic league but also Erling Haaland keep consistent scoring last two goals on UEFA Champion League against with Sevilla on first match.

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September 14, 2022, 04:56:54 PM
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There are rumors about Ronaldo getting into Bayern Munich but Bayern has landed Sadio Mané, Matthijs de Ligt, and Mathys Tel, so getting Ronaldo is not possible, and there are said that management from Bayern Munich doesn't like how Cristiano Ronaldo is playing, because he doesn't do any team play and wants the spotlight for himself, he is like the Kobe Bryant of the football world but surely he is one of the best footballers in the world, but nobody wants to sign him, and pretty much he is old enough for a transfer,

How tired I am of reading this set of stamps about the fact that Ronaldo is not a team player and blah blah blah. Basically, this nonsense is generated by his haters. Ronaldo is number one in assists in the Champions League. He probably did these passes because he was selfish and to set a record, right?  Grin
Here is a good selection of how Ronaldo's partners dispose of his most brilliant passes, if I were him, I would stop passing altogether:
https://twitter.com/patrickomife/status/1533849118329929729

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