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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 40 (49.4%)
Liverpool - 12 (14.8%)
Arsenal - 22 (27.2%)
Chelsea - 1 (1.2%)
Manchester United - 4 (4.9%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 2 (2.5%)
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Author Topic: Premier League Prediction Thread 2024/2025  (Read 753123 times)
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February 06, 2023, 01:17:42 AM
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What a nightmare for Guardiola, is he even good anymore?
He won everything with Messi, and now he not winning with billions spent in the market.

If Arsenal will win the missing game the will be almost unstoppable with an advantage of 8.


I am not quite sure whether you are referring the the Champions League or Premier League. Pep Guardiola won 4x the EPL, 1x the FA Cup, 4x the League Cup, and 2x the English Supercup. All of that happened within 6 seasons, and now it is his 7th season. Would you argue that that is bad for a coach and Guardiola should be questioned? If you are referring to the Champions League, then this is probably the wrong thread. But if you are referring to EPL related titles, I would say that that is a pretty strong performance for a coach! Cheesy

It is not like Tottenham is easy to beat especially in an away game. It was the typical game. Manchester City had more possession, more shots on target, higher passing precision, etc. But there are these days where you just can't get the ball into the exact right position and score and on top of that you might be unlucky as well.

With every game day passing by the EPL becomes more interesting in regards to whether or not Arsenal can really pull off the big surprise!

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February 06, 2023, 01:46:49 AM
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I don't think things like these can hurt professional players, but surely they are having some problems just because of this now they have two defeats which are surely concern for them, but this is also usual business in Premier League while higher rank teams lost against weaker sides as we have too many results Wolves defeat Liverpool and Newcastle United held by West Ham United which is also in relegation zone.
The season is mostly over for Liverpool in Premier League. With the latest defeat, they are no longer be able to join top four even the season has many matches left. The best ending they can have is a position from 5th to 6th, not higher.

With this situation, I believe Klopp and Liverpool will try hard in Champions League but winning the title is not easy for any club. If they can win it, they will have a default slot to join Champions League 2023 - 2024 no matter what rank they end in Premier League.

That's a silly joke by City players to let Spurs winning them.. That was a serious opportunity to profit from Arsenal defeat and to reduce the gap to 5 points! But no they just totally ruined the opportunity and not only giving Arsenal a golden chance to win EPL but also helping ManU to catch them..
Manchester City and Pep wasted another opportunity to reduce their gap with Arsenal. Arsenal lost first and Manchester City followed them with their own defeat. Premier League race for the championship between Arsenal and Manchester City is still very exciting and Arsenal temporarily have very good advantage.

Totenham has been learning from the first met with manchester city. It must be fully defensive to prevent the come back to happen. Manchester city was a team that could make comeback anytime and there's no reason for totenham to go all in after it has made goals against manchester city. Harry kane got some golden opportunities to make additional goals against city. Totenham becomes fully defensive after first goal and the club was using counter attack. Some chances were happening from the counter attack.
Harry Kane scored one goal which makes him as a best scorer in history of Tottenham Hotspur. He made a history and more meaningful, his club won a match. They are continuing their race with Manchester United, Newcastle and even Manchester City for a position in top four.

Arsenal will expand their gap with Manchester City to 8 points if they win their match. 8 points will be a very stressful gap for Manchester City and Pep especially they will have to think more about Champions League in February.

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February 06, 2023, 01:52:59 AM
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It is not the first time that Man City is defeated by Tottenham. So, I don't think it is very surprising. Everyone must remember that Tottenham always makes Man City difficult to get points.  Grin

We know that Man City really wants to win this match to overtake Arsenal. But they failed to get points in this important match, so no change in the point gap. I think Man City is too obsessed to get 3 points and loses focus on the match. So, they only made many shot attempts but they have no accuracy in scoring. It is a big lesson, Man City must stay focused on the match.
Things have changed lot at Manchester City lately where players seem to be out for themselves especially when it comes to scoring goals.
I didn't see midfielders and wingers getting Haaland's spot throughout the match against Tottenham, while they did get few shots on target. I can say the level of selfishness of the players on the field has made Manchester City's performance drop this season, and clearly they are not as strong as I imagined while ago.

Therefore, Guardiola seems to have tough homework for the rest of the season by getting his players to play as team supporting each other for team achievements. They won't be able to win any titles this season if their performance drops, and it's absolutely difficult to win any titles if they can't beat top teams like Tottenham, Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool.

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February 06, 2023, 02:46:05 AM
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Therefore, Guardiola seems to have tough homework for the rest of the season by getting his players to play as team supporting each other for team achievements. They won't be able to win any titles this season if their performance drops, and it's absolutely difficult to win any titles if they can't beat top teams like Tottenham, Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Arsenal lost their last match against Everton and dropped points. Manchester City now had an easy chance to win their last match and close the points gap with Arsenal. But Manchester City could not take advantage of this opportunity. They lost 1-0 against Tottenham. They won the home match against Tottenham 4-2. But they lost in the away match. Guardiola may not have done his homework properly. He should have stopped Harry Kane at all costs. Manchester City had to lose because of the mistakes of the defenders. And City is still 8 points behind Arsenal.

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Making Erik Ten Haag the manager of Man United has been the right decision so far, he has proven in several matches that he has brought a lot of changes to Man United, it will definitely be even more interesting if their city team again suffers bad results in subsequent matches and Man United can get closer to City's position, indeed it is not so important between second and third position but it will be different for Ten Haag who had doubted the presence, surely many did not think that Man United could be in the top four but they are there now

The results in this week's match are proof of how tight the competition is in the EPL, no club can dominate and what I think is most impressive is Newcastle, who have only lost once in the 21 matches they have played, from teams in the top 4, Newcastle, the least conceded and that proves how strong their defense is and the club just needs a more sharp striker to make this team even stronger in all their areas

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February 06, 2023, 03:04:19 AM
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Manchester city didn't profit from arsenal lose against Everton and they also lost against Tottenham with 1 goal scored in the first half by hare kane, arsenal fans are for sure very happy with this result and the club but in my opinion the situation had to be better if the club was more efficient against Everton, if the won the match the gap would be 8 points - 1 to arsenal which will make the situation easier for theme

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February 06, 2023, 03:14:40 AM
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Of the top 3 standings, only Man United made it through the week with good results, even though it was dramatic in the final minutes which were quite tense because Erik Ten Hag had to immediately rotate players so he could cover Casemiro's gap. Preparing against Leeds, in my opinion, there is still an alternative that Ten Hag chose to complete his winning streak. The plus point of playing at Old Trafford is getting more and more superior.

The declining performance that Man City showed against Tottenham is very clear that focusing on Haaland will only be easy when his shooting space is guarded. Kane and Son really made Man City's back line look fragile. This can be seen from the quick counterattack carried out. The appearance of Grealish, Haaland and Kevin found it difficult to penetrate the defense which was deliberately built to strengthen the front of the goal.

Liverpool seem to be frustrated that Wolves are able to be more dominant in building attacks, many opportunities are wasted because Klopp still trusts Nunez, who clearly becomes the spearhead, looks dull in terms of quality.

It seems that Chelsea are not too interested, even though with the composition of the new players there cannot be any significant changes.

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February 06, 2023, 03:15:53 AM
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When Arsenal lost against Everton I had the feeling Man City won't be able to capitalize on that and win Spurs but I just wrote the feeling off. I've always said it that it's going to be a strong battle for Arsenal if they are to win the league. We are at the point in the league where they can't afford to drop anymore point, unless Man City starts dropping point which might not happen.
People think Arsenal's loss to Everton is the beginning of their doom but I highly doubt that. Nobody was expecting them to win every game, they'll definitely drop point and they have. It's also highly unlikely that they'll not drop points again till the end of the season but let's see how it goes.
Why not? arsenal has known as a team that becomes incompetence at the end of the season. In many cases, arsenal was not able to keep its win streak until the end of season. that's also the reason why arsenal was also losing a few chances to be a champion for premier league.
The lose against Everton was a very bad result as we knew that everton was in the relegation zone. Arsenal was also very luck yo see manchester united has got the same result as it. That's why arsenal's gap is not yet being cutted.
BTW that's pretty interesting week as some small clubs have been beating big clubs like liverpool and arsenal.

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February 06, 2023, 03:57:45 AM
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Arsenal lost their last match against Everton and dropped points. Manchester City now had an easy chance to win their last match and close the points gap with Arsenal. But Manchester City could not take advantage of this opportunity. They lost 1-0 against Tottenham. They won the home match against Tottenham 4-2. But they lost in the away match. Guardiola may not have done his homework properly. He should have stopped Harry Kane at all costs. Manchester City had to lose because of the mistakes of the defenders. And City is still 8 points behind Arsenal.
Arsenal and Manchester City both have almost the same defeat this week. Both have pretty good ball control. But has failed to take advantage of every opportunity it has. on the other hand Manchester United continues to show extraordinary matches. and now the point difference between Manchester United and Manchester City is only 3 points. So that Manchester United is getting closer to shifting the position of Manchester city. and if Manchester City want to continue to secure their position, they must get full points in the next game, against Aston Villa.

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February 06, 2023, 04:20:13 AM
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I would have never expected Manchester City to be that weak at defending. This was what Tottenham wanted from this game. Kane scored thanks to one of the weaknesses in their defense for example.

Manchester City still could have relied on their attacking performance but there wasn't too much in that as well. I mean the number of absolute goal chances wasn't too high. They missed a big opportunity to close up the gap with Arsenal a little more. I still think Arsenal are the most deserving team when it comes to the league title. Because Manchester City can't make use of the chances.
About the match between Manchester City vs Tottenham indeed one mistakes suffering to lose this what happend to Manchester City yesterday that their player has did a fatal mistakes which make Manchester City conceded goal and unfortunately this is the only goal during the match and in my opinion Manchester City weren't performing poor because they didn't stopped to attacking but Tottenham know how to guard Haaland perfectly that i can see he was rare to touching the ball but besides that De Bruyne is the key player for Manchester City and i was wondering why Guardiola putting him on the bench because probably the result will be different if he played early

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February 06, 2023, 04:37:39 AM
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Arsenal lost their last match against Everton and dropped points. Manchester City now had an easy chance to win their last match and close the points gap with Arsenal. But Manchester City could not take advantage of this opportunity. They lost 1-0 against Tottenham. They won the home match against Tottenham 4-2. But they lost in the away match. Guardiola may not have done his homework properly. He should have stopped Harry Kane at all costs. Manchester City had to lose because of the mistakes of the defenders. And City is still 8 points behind Arsenal.
Arsenal and Manchester City both have almost the same defeat this week. Both have pretty good ball control. But has failed to take advantage of every opportunity it has. on the other hand Manchester United continues to show extraordinary matches. and now the point difference between Manchester United and Manchester City is only 3 points. So that Manchester United is getting closer to shifting the position of Manchester city. and if Manchester City want to continue to secure their position, they must get full points in the next game, against Aston Villa.
Arsenal and Manchester City suffered the same fate as both teams Everton and Tottenham had new coaches and both were able to topple two top teams, Sean Dyche and Cristian Stellini had success with their first game against the top flight and that was cool.
Manchester United will be a threat to Manchester City because their consistent and good performance means that Manchester City must give good results for the next game. And against Aston Villa there is a possibility that Manchester City will win, because this is an important game to get away from Manchester United, who are only three points away.


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February 06, 2023, 04:37:52 AM
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It is not the first time that Man City is defeated by Tottenham. So, I don't think it is very surprising. Everyone must remember that Tottenham always makes Man City difficult to get points.  Grin

We know that Man City really wants to win this match to overtake Arsenal. But they failed to get points in this important match, so no change in the point gap. I think Man City is too obsessed to get 3 points and loses focus on the match. So, they only made many shot attempts but they have no accuracy in scoring. It is a big lesson, Man City must stay focused on the match.
Things have changed lot at Manchester City lately where players seem to be out for themselves especially when it comes to scoring goals.
I didn't see midfielders and wingers getting Haaland's spot throughout the match against Tottenham, while they did get few shots on target. I can say the level of selfishness of the players on the field has made Manchester City's performance drop this season, and clearly they are not as strong as I imagined while ago.

Therefore, Guardiola seems to have tough homework for the rest of the season by getting his players to play as team supporting each other for team achievements. They won't be able to win any titles this season if their performance drops, and it's absolutely difficult to win any titles if they can't beat top teams like Tottenham, Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool.
You have my sympathies; it is disheartening to watch a squad with so much promise and ability underachieve. However, I believe it is essential to keep in mind that the course of a season is never smooth sailing for any squad. Even though Manchester City has had some difficulties, I still think they have what it takes to get back on track and play as a team again.

Personally, I believe Guardiola to be an excellent coach who coaxes fantastic performances from his squads. His track record of accomplishment gives me confidence that he can rally the troops and help them triumph over their current challenges. Manchester City still has plenty of time to turn things around and make a strong run for the title; the remainder of the season has a long way to go.

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February 06, 2023, 04:46:25 AM
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Yes, indeed. Manchester City could not beat Tottenham, which in addition received a suspension at the end of the game in his team and had weak statistics throughout the game. Manchester City dominated both attacks and possession of the ball, but... In general, the situation is essentially the same for Arsenal as for Manchester City.
Manchester City's match against Tottenham was very exciting but this was a nightmare for Manchester City fans because they had to accept a very painful defeat, only one goal difference and Manchester City were unable to catch up, Erling Haaland could not move freely and had difficulty scoring goals because it is strictly guarded by Tottenham players.
Every effort by Man City to equalize the lone goal was thwarted by Tottenham at a time the pressure was much on Spur, Mahrez shot hits the woodwork while Haaland couldn't get a through pass after making some good runs towards Spur final third probably because DeBryne didn't start the match, honestly the match live up to expectations from the start to finish, I didn't miss any of the actions as I stayed glued to the Television, I must commend Tottenham for defending that goal and guided against conceding a goal just like what happened to them in the reverse fixture.

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February 06, 2023, 04:47:44 AM
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I would have never expected Manchester City to be that weak at defending. This was what Tottenham wanted from this game. Kane scored thanks to one of the weaknesses in their defense for example.

Manchester City still could have relied on their attacking performance but there wasn't too much in that as well. I mean the number of absolute goal chances wasn't too high. They missed a big opportunity to close up the gap with Arsenal a little more. I still think Arsenal are the most deserving team when it comes to the league title. Because Manchester City can't make use of the chances.

I think, Manchester city coach need to apply more skills to enable his players improve higher in their next matches, because Manchester city fans are not happy about their poor performance in this match. Many people predicted for the favour of Manchester city because they believed that Tottenham Hotspur don't have the strength to stop them not to achieve three points from the match but the match turned for the favour of Tottenham Hotspur to defeated Manchester city 1-0. Tottenham Hotspur really prepared well for this match, because they made their defensive so strong from the beginning of the first half and till the end of the second half not to allow Manchester city strikers achieve a single goal from the match.

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February 06, 2023, 05:28:19 AM
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What a nightmare for Guardiola, is he even good anymore?
He won everything with Messi, and now he not winning with billions spent in the market.

If Arsenal will win the missing game they will be almost unstoppable with an advantage of 8.
it was Man city's chance today to get closer to Arsenal, but they fumbled the bag, Tottenham wants to play in the Champions League next season, and they scored from very few chances and let Man City take the ball and couldn't do anything but miss, what a golden chance Man City missed today to catch up with Arsenal.
Maybe we should say it wasn't meant to happen. I knew Tottenham will not accept a second defeat from Manchester City after the horrible humiliation at Etihad. It was so saddening to watch Tottenham score two goals in the first half and then lose 2-4 at the end of the match. It was the right moment to make Manchester city pay and I'm happy it happened. if they wish to cover the pace with Arsenal, They will have to fight hard in their subsequent matches.

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February 06, 2023, 05:59:45 AM
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I would have never expected Manchester City to be that weak at defending. This was what Tottenham wanted from this game. Kane scored thanks to one of the weaknesses in their defense for example.

Manchester City still could have relied on their attacking performance but there wasn't too much in that as well. I mean the number of absolute goal chances wasn't too high. They missed a big opportunity to close up the gap with Arsenal a little more. I still think Arsenal are the most deserving team when it comes to the league title. Because Manchester City can't make use of the chances.
In general before the match bookmakers were giving 4.5 to win Tottenham which seems to me unreasonably high odds, considering the fact that the previous 4 games Tottenham beat City at home. Plus Tottenham have Kane and Son, players who can take a moment and decide the whole game, which is what happened in the end.

I think, like all the bookmakers, relied on Manchester City's main strength, an excellent offense and creative midfield and also thought that even if Tottenham scored, Manchester City would certainly be able to score more. Haaland was obviously not in his best form, Grealish tried in general, well done, but he was not worth 115 million, for whatever reason they took away Marez, the most dangerous player for Manchester City at that time. 

In general Manchester City had a strange match, as if they wanted to win without making any effort. 

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February 06, 2023, 06:05:29 AM
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Manchester city didn't profit from arsenal lose against Everton and they also lost against Tottenham with 1 goal scored in the first half by hare kane, arsenal fans are for sure very happy with this result and the club but in my opinion the situation had to be better if the club was more efficient against Everton, if the won the match the gap would be 8 points - 1 to arsenal which will make the situation easier for theme
As a result of not being able to take advantage of opportunities for Arsenal failure to win over Everton, Manchester City also failed to stick to Arsenal at the top of the Premier League standings. Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Still very haunted for Manchester City, so far The Cityzen has always failed to pick up points and has also been unable to score goals in the last four matches.

Tottenham managed to take advantage of playing at home and the tactical mistakes carried by Guardiola to get full points. Guardiola decision not to include Kevin De Bruyne name in the main squad made Erling Haaland and Julian Alvarez lack bait support on the front lines, as a result Manchester City were unable to score a goal in this match.

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One of Tottenham Hotspur's most talented strikers, Harry Kane, scored the game-winning goal against Manchester City. The two rivals' losses are quite acceptable since City missed their opportunities to cut the deficit to two points behind Arsenal, who actually lost to the Toffees yesterday at Goodison Park. Harry is keeping Spurs' hopes of qualifying for the UEFA spot alive, which is a memorable moment for the Englishman on the field. Cristian stellini, who was playing as Antonio Conte's representative, also had a happy expression on his face.

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Manchester city didn't profit from arsenal lose against Everton and they also lost against Tottenham with 1 goal scored in the first half by hare kane, arsenal fans are for sure very happy with this result and the club but in my opinion the situation had to be better if the club was more efficient against Everton, if the won the match the gap would be 8 points - 1 to arsenal which will make the situation easier for theme
As a result of not being able to take advantage of opportunities for Arsenal failure to win over Everton, Manchester City also failed to stick to Arsenal at the top of the Premier League standings. Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Still very haunted for Manchester City, so far The Cityzen has always failed to pick up points and has also been unable to score goals in the last four matches.

Tottenham managed to take advantage of playing at home and the tactical mistakes carried by Guardiola to get full points. Guardiola decision not to include Kevin De Bruyne name in the main squad made Erling Haaland and Julian Alvarez lack bait support on the front lines, as a result Manchester City were unable to score a goal in this match.


I didn't even know that Tottenham was able to beat Manchester City a couple of times now in home games. But that goes to show that Tottenham can never be underestimated. With a striker like Harry Kane they know that they are able to score a goal at any moment in the game. He is strong and versatile, can score after free kicks and corners but also in very dynamic situations.
It is hard to believe when Manchester City can't score a single goal during the game given that they have the most dangerous striker in the world. But Haaland is also just human and ultimately also depends on his teammates to create chances for him.
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February 06, 2023, 06:22:06 AM
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What a nightmare for Guardiola, is he even good anymore?
He won everything with Messi, and now he not winning with billions spent in the market.

If Arsenal will win the missing game they will be almost unstoppable with an advantage of 8.
it was Man city's chance today to get closer to Arsenal, but they fumbled the bag, Tottenham wants to play in the Champions League next season, and they scored from very few chances and let Man City take the ball and couldn't do anything but miss, what a golden chance Man City missed today to catch up with Arsenal.
Maybe we should say it wasn't meant to happen. I knew Tottenham will not accept a second defeat from Manchester City after the horrible humiliation at Etihad. It was so saddening to watch Tottenham score two goals in the first half and then lose 2-4 at the end of the match. It was the right moment to make Manchester city pay and I'm happy it happened. if they wish to cover the pace with Arsenal, They will have to fight hard in their subsequent matches.
It was a great revenge from Tottenham and the fans of this team are delighted with what happened. And also, this match turned out to be spectacular for connoisseurs of English football.

There was a strange tendency for the two main favorites to lose in recent matches. An unfortunate mistake by Arsenal, which could have reduced the gap, was compensated by the same defeat of M.City. This is an amazing gift of fate for Arsenal, but for M.City - a failure. Since now M.U. breathes down their backs and can even remove M.City from their second place. As you rightly said, M.City will need to fight desperately with all their might to maintain their position in the league.

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