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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.9%)
Arsenal - 38 (20.8%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.6%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 183

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September 04, 2023, 11:29:58 AM
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Talking about Manchester united, their coach made a statement in the press yesterday concerning not including Jadon Sancho In the team against Arsenal, saying that to play for united you have to give in your best and that Sancho didn't impress him in the training sections that's why he wasn't selected.

It turns out that it's not just the players who are selfish, but Erik Ten Hag showed his ego in front of the press, he should have admitted defeat because after all Arsenal was superior, if we look at it at a glance we can see the difference very clearly. I don't think it's Sancho problem, but the team is not united, not to mention the players are having a hard time finding the game of their dreams. I have already said that Erik Ten Hag is too selfish with his strategy while the strikers he currently has do not suit what he implements. So first increase team cohesion, teach the players not to be selfish and always work together in building attacks.

I still remember that several players who Ten Hag considered a burden were removed, Maguire no longer plays regularly, De Gea was replaced by Onana, and in my opinion Onana performance at Inter was better than at Man United, then Ronaldo has also left but in reality the problems he is facing Man United hasn't changed much.

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September 04, 2023, 11:36:21 AM
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10 points from 4 matches is a good start for Liverpool this season. I expect Klopp to maintain the team's top form into the first half of the season and continue the same trend in the second half of the season - but there is still a long way to go and it's difficult to say for sure.

Liverpool were held to a draw by Chelsea in their opening game - but we won against Newcastle, Bournemouth and Aston Villa. Right now the excitement is real for the fans and the team - but maintaining consistent form is very difficult. I hope Liverpool can come back to compete better with Manchester City this season after the big failure last season. But Liverpool also need to make sure things run perfectly in the Europa League.
After every game Liverpool is having good improvement into their performance which is impressive and with this start right now they are third in league table which is another impressive thing happening to them even after first game against Chelsea draw mostly were feeling things will be not as par expectations but Jürgen Klopp and his players change the momentum and now having good confidence for the better performance and having higher rank at the end of this season.

Right now, we are in early rounds of this season and things are looking good with win against Newcastle United completely change the players mindset and with this win now they are feeling much better for the good performance, hopefully we will have better things with positive end if we have no injury in coming weeks.
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September 04, 2023, 11:37:28 AM
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To be honest I didn't watch the big game yesterday and seeing the final score 3-1 for Arsenal to win at home it was a very good result for the Gunners. It seems that this time Manchester United were not lucky enough because the last 2 goals scored by Arsenal were all in injury time. I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around. Last week Arsenal only won a draw against Fulham and this time they were able to get full points back. For Manchester United it seems like a pretty bad start because out of 4 matches they won 2x and lost 2x.

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September 04, 2023, 11:50:20 AM
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Yesterday I didn't watch the Arsenal vs Man U match to the end and switched it off after Man U's goal wasn't counted due to VAR... Now I looked at the stats of the game and saw that Arsenal managed to score two goals in the last minutes... Shame I missed the most interesting moments... It really was a great game...
The game really showed why we shouldn't stop watching early. I mean, an extra 11 minutes? That's nut.! And that time was, to me, the heart of how unpredictable the Premier League is. I couldn't believe that Rice's shot went back in and that Onana missed the block. Really, how fast! Man U. was trying to get a draw, and Arsenal scored a goal late in the game thanks to Gabriel Jess. It seems like both teams changed how they played because of that long extra time. How could that be? It's frustrating to think about what could have happened if you had watched until the end

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September 04, 2023, 11:56:44 AM
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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.
What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.

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September 04, 2023, 12:20:12 PM
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An exciting match for both of them, especially as Arsenal continued to press so they got a gap in the last minute and forced Manchester United to concede two goals in just a few minutes. Arsenal played well at home as hosts, of course they had to give their best for everyone. their fans and make sure to reap three points from this match to get on the winning track again to get a better position at the top of the standings.

Declan rice is a good defensive midfielder and Arsenal made the right decision to sign him. He will go on to create memories with Arsenal just as he has started with a great win against Manchester united. Declan rice played very well against Manchester united and got a goal.

Manchester united is weak at their defense and that's why they conceded a goal just one minute after scoring Arsenal. Their defense also lack concentration because knowing the game was about to end, they would had defended properly and taken home one point.

The officiating staffs of the game contributed in Manchester united losing because they officiated very poorly but that wasn't an excuse because from how Arsenal played, they would had still found a way to win the game and as for the last goal, G. Jesus is world class.

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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.
What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.
I will not blame some people for making sentimental judgement and statement about Manchester United cancelled goal in the last match this is because such comments are born out of a shared mindset as being a fan of the club.

But while they are at that,  the reality still remains that that goal was an error goal according to the evidence and statistics so let us just forget about prejudice due to affiliation instead of using facts.
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Manchester United also have some improvement, but they still need more improvement with things are looking not right hopefully now in this break we will have some work from Erik ten Hag for the change of strategy and bringing improvement before it's too late, and they faced another exit from the top four because right now after four round they are at the 11th spot with -2 goals difference which is surely not positive end of month for them.
Talking about Manchester united, their coach made a statement in the press yesterday concerning not including Jadon Sancho In the team against Arsenal, saying that to play for united you have to give in your best and that Sancho didn't impress him in the training sections that's why he wasn't selected.
 But then Sancho responded on social media saying "I've been a scapegoat in the team which is not fair" he also said fans shouldn't believe any they read on the news and he'll not allow anyone say things that are untrue about him and he's conducted himself in the training and the coaches decisions are based on things he won't talk about.
 In my opinion, I think Sancho was being disrespectful to make such response to the coach without the clubs approval no player is bigger than a team and since the coach is the head of the team, every player owes him some respect, if he says you're not working hard enough then all Sancho needed to do is work hard to impress the coach like every other player does instead of going online to release such statement.
I won't blame any players for speaking out in such cases because even as the coach has the right to feature any player of the team, it doesn't give coaches the right to make derogatory comments about players and why they are not featured, from what is obvious the coach may be having a personal rift with the player which have led to attempted victimization, this is not the first time such crisis is happening in the club and if care is not taken, Manchester united will have its negative impact on the long run.
The club spent a lot of money on those players and denying them usage is also a loss for the club itself unless if the player is truly underperforming.
I think lately there have been problems with Manchstr United and there has been a lot of criticism towards coach Erik Ten Hag who is given the responsibility to improve United's performance but nothing has changed in these few matches even Ten Hag made a mistake in yesterday's match a lot of people don't like this coach's decision, but nevertheless it is a decision that he considers very wise.
With so much criticism and problems happening to United, is this a sign that Ten Hag will be replaced by another coach?
I don't expect this to happen but if it's for the best to change coaches for the better future of United I think it's fine.

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September 04, 2023, 12:34:11 PM
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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.
What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.
I'm just curious because quite a lot of people are discussing the VAR result and if it was offside then it was the right decision to annul the goal. I do not side with any team and all decisions remain in the hands of the referee. It seems like you are too hasty to define other people's opinions and when everything is clear there should be no need for too serious a debate. Well, whatever it is, Arsenal has done their job well and for Manchester United they have to try even harder so they can win the next match. Smiley

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I really don't know what to say about Chelsea anymore because this team even if it has massive talent , they really don't look like a team when they play and when they win , it's just from pure skill and not actually playing like a team. Today , they lost again and I think a new coach might come to Chelsea this Autumn to try and save the start of the season.

I no longer support Chelsea, and if you bet on them to win, they won't let you. I find it impossible to believe that this tiny team will be able to defeat Chelsea, and I seriously doubt that they will ever be good again. Chelsea has signed more players than any other team this year, and yet they haven't won anything. Even after changing the coach, nothing has improved. I believe Chelsea will never be as strong as they were in the past. At the start of the game, when they were tied at 0-0 at halftime, I had hoped Chelsea would win or draw, but instead, they made mistakes that allowed them to lose.

The most surprising aspect is that when Chelsea has a chance to score, the players will play the ball out and some can't play it in a normal way. It would be better if Chelsea didn't even sign any players this season because I can see that the players they used last season are even better than this season's own; all of the players are young players and I still don't even understand their performance; I don't think Chelsea will make a good position this season.

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I think lately there have been problems with Manchstr United and there has been a lot of criticism towards coach Erik Ten Hag who is given the responsibility to improve United's performance but nothing has changed in these few matches even Ten Hag made a mistake in yesterday's match a lot of people don't like this coach's decision, but nevertheless it is a decision that he considers very wise.
With so much criticism and problems happening to United, is this a sign that Ten Hag will be replaced by another coach?
I don't expect this to happen but if it's for the best to change coaches for the better future of United I think it's fine.
Every coach knows what's best for his team and they feature players based on their performance in the training and if a player doesn't impress them enough then they'll be left with no option but to not feature them in matches, but my issue with Eric Ten Hag is starting Martial in place of Højlund and Dalot in place of Regullion, you bought a player to replace lukeshaw who's injured why not feature him in the match instead of playing him out of position, well apart from that he's a good coach and has improved the teams performance just that'd he's not been given the right backing by the board to get his preferred players and the whole drama happening in the club would bounce back to the players who are incompetent on handling situations on the club, they invest little and get more benefits which is very bad.
 Manchester united is gradually losing it's value as one of the biggest club in the world and this season is going to be horrible for them with the glaziers still present as their owners and several incompetent players making the starting 11 currently, we would has seen a better united if they invested heavily on several areas that needed strengthening and offloading the deadwoods like Harry Maguire and Co I feel pity for Eric Ten Hag because united would ruin his career.

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The game really showed why we shouldn't stop watching early. I mean, an extra 11 minutes? That's nut.! And that time was, to me, the heart of how unpredictable the Premier League is. I couldn't believe that Rice's shot went back in and that Onana missed the block. Really, how fast! Man U. was trying to get a draw, and Arsenal scored a goal late in the game thanks to Gabriel Jess. It seems like both teams changed how they played because of that long extra time. How could that be? It's frustrating to think about what could have happened if you had watched until the end

This is a new regulation that is implemented by the FA, strict sanctions are also prepared by the FA for individuals or teams who commit violations. The FA has also adopted the additional time or injury time system that was previously used at the 2022 world cup in Qatar. and we, have seen it in a few of these competitions.

In essence, the Gunners succeeded in overthrowing the Red Devil at their own headquarters, Emirates Stadium. As previously predicted, this match will present an exciting match between the two teams. Rice, scored his first goal with Arsenal and proved he was a worthy player. while the final goal was scored by Gabriel Jesus. as a result, Arsenal won full points for this match and placed 5th in the standings. even though in reality, there is only a difference of two points from Manchester City who are at the top of the standings.

On the other hand, United actually had several opportunities but unfortunately they were unable to increase their number of goals. Of the three counter-attacks that United had, only one was utilized very well. In this match, Manchester United were just unlucky, in the final seconds of the match, they were unable to maintain their position after the match had progressed in normal time. in the end, Arsenal managed to win this match.

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September 04, 2023, 01:02:22 PM
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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.
What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.
Many people are viewing some circumstances through the lens of emotion. The VAR intervention on Garnacho's goal was because there was a possibility of offside detection, and they confirmed that Garnacho was off, which is why the goal was ruled out; additionally, Manchester United fans were relieved that the Havertz penalty incident was overlooked because they believe there is no contact and have forgotten how Refree helped them against Nottingham Forest and Wolves earlier this season. As far as I'm concerned, the game was impeccably refereed, and the goals from Rice and Jesus had nothing to do with the referee's decision.

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In first half we have good performance from the Manchester United which helps them for having end of this half on level with Arsenal, but second half mostly dominated by Arsenal even they fail to score goal in 45 minutes but still they were in complete control and then suddenly have two goals in injury time which give them full three points after awful end against Fulham at this same place.

Manchester United also have some improvement, but they still need more improvement with things are looking not right hopefully now in this break we will have some work from Erik ten Hag for the change of strategy and bringing improvement before it's too late, and they faced another exit from the top four because right now after four round they are at the 11th spot with -2 goals difference which is surely not positive end of month for them.
Arsenal recent display indeed reflects their maturity and resilience on the field. Declan Rice's impactful performance and crucial goal showcased his value since joining from West Ham. While Havertz may have room for improvement Arsenal depth is evident. Manchester United new striker also left a promising impression despite facing formidable defenders in Gabriel and Saliba. The match was a tough contest and Arsenal late goals turned the tide in their favor showing their potential against strong opponents like Manchester united. This victory bodes well for their future encounters with other formidable teams in upcoming matches.

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An exciting match for both of them, especially as Arsenal continued to press so they got a gap in the last minute and forced Manchester United to concede two goals in just a few minutes. Arsenal played well at home as hosts, of course they had to give their best for everyone. their fans and make sure to reap three points from this match to get on the winning track again to get a better position at the top of the standings.

Declan rice is a good defensive midfielder and Arsenal made the right decision to sign him. He will go on to create memories with Arsenal just as he has started with a great win against Manchester united. Declan rice played very well against Manchester united and got a goal.

Manchester united is weak at their defense and that's why they conceded a goal just one minute after scoring Arsenal. Their defense also lack concentration because knowing the game was about to end, they would had defended properly and taken home one point.

The officiating staffs of the game contributed in Manchester united losing because they officiated very poorly but that wasn't an excuse because from how Arsenal played, they would had still found a way to win the game and as for the last goal, G. Jesus is world class.
A very tough day for Man United. The start of the season has not been long since it started but Man United had to lose 2 of their best defenders due to injuries. Frankly, there will always be anxiety when watching Maguire play but this cannot be avoided because Johnny Evans is no better than Maguire either. This is truly a big problem that Ten Hag must immediately fix.

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Yesterday I didn't watch the Arsenal vs Man U match to the end and switched it off after Man U's goal wasn't counted due to VAR... Now I looked at the stats of the game and saw that Arsenal managed to score two goals in the last minutes... Shame I missed the most interesting moments... It really was a great game...
Before now people were  really complaining about VAR, but I was one of those who defended VAR by telling people that it is a new technology that needs a favourable ground to prosper. Although VAR cancelled some vibes of football but I still preferred it to the analogue type of refereeing since it was meant to eradicate mistakes and injustice. But of recent I am doubtful about the VAR and the guys that operates in the VAR room. I have had many reasons to question VAR decisions even last night.  There are some infinitesimal cases that needed to be overlooked for the love of football, but VAR will function better in those cases while neglecting the obvious cases. The disallowed Manchester United goal is a case study.

I had a different opinion about the offside. When I saw the replay, I was sure that the goal would count. It was obvious that there was no offside during the pass. And those lines can be drawn however you like. Arsenal would have lost 100% if the goal had not been canceled. But in fact the Gunners looked stronger for the whole match.

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I'm just curious because quite a lot of people are discussing the VAR result and if it was offside then it was the right decision to annul the goal. I do not side with any team and all decisions remain in the hands of the referee. It seems like you are too hasty to define other people's opinions and when everything is clear there should be no need for too serious a debate. Well, whatever it is, Arsenal has done their job well and for Manchester United they have to try even harder so they can win the next match. Smiley

Anything can happen during a match and sometimes some of the referee's decisions will not be in your favor. The fans complained, the coaches complained, and so did the gamblers who felt they deserved to win their bets. Things like that happen often and are quite disappointing, that's what Ten Hag said after the match even though he felt his team had done their best.

Read more here: TEN HAG: SMALL MARGINS WERE DECISIVE

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“You saw the game but it’s no offside [for the Garnacho goal which was ruled out], wrong angle. It’s a penalty on [Rasmus] Hojlund and then we concede a goal [scored by Declan Rice] where there’s a foul on Jonny Evans. It's so clear and obvious. Okay, you can now say finish your chances. You can say don't concede the goal after you go 1-0 up. Yeah, it's all true. But I think there's really a step forward and I was happy with the performance. [The Declan Rice goal] is offside so you have to accept it but I see the angle. I don’t see [it] as offside. No [I have not sought clarification from the officials] but that doesn’t change the result. That is what it is. You have to accept it.”

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The most surprising aspect is that when Chelsea has a chance to score, the players will play the ball out and some can't play it in a normal way. It would be better if Chelsea didn't even sign any players this season because I can see that the players they used last season are even better than this season's own; all of the players are young players and I still don't even understand their performance; I don't think Chelsea will make a good position this season.
Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

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An exciting match for both of them, especially as Arsenal continued to press so they got a gap in the last minute and forced Manchester United to concede two goals in just a few minutes. Arsenal played well at home as hosts, of course they had to give their best for everyone. their fans and make sure to reap three points from this match to get on the winning track again to get a better position at the top of the standings.

Declan rice is a good defensive midfielder and Arsenal made the right decision to sign him. He will go on to create memories with Arsenal just as he has started with a great win against Manchester united. Declan rice played very well against Manchester united and got a goal.

Manchester united is weak at their defense and that's why they conceded a goal just one minute after scoring Arsenal. Their defense also lack concentration because knowing the game was about to end, they would had defended properly and taken home one point.

The officiating staffs of the game contributed in Manchester united losing because they officiated very poorly but that wasn't an excuse because from how Arsenal played, they would had still found a way to win the game and as for the last goal, G. Jesus is world class.

He has already created history by scoring his first ever Premier League goal against Man United. Declan was active enough to help overpower Bruno and Erikson during the first half performance.
Before the defense, the coach should be the blame for the overall selection he should take all the blame and Man United need to improve.
Dragging points with Chelsea is what they are doing. A new plans for a solid defender and the exit of Maguire should be planned.

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September 04, 2023, 01:29:08 PM
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The most surprising aspect is that when Chelsea has a chance to score, the players will play the ball out and some can't play it in a normal way. It would be better if Chelsea didn't even sign any players this season because I can see that the players they used last season are even better than this season's own; all of the players are young players and I still don't even understand their performance; I don't think Chelsea will make a good position this season.
Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

I personally don't care about the Chelsea squad because after all, because Chelsea has also spent a lot of money in the transfer window to bring in players. Then at least, it is a must for Chelsea to be able to have good results, performance and position also in the Premier League standings now. But anyway, the reality is that the results Chelsea have at this moment are still far from good results as expected. Therefore, whoever the players are in the Chelsea squad at this moment, of course they get big pressure because they are required to be able to successfully get points in each match.

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