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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 23 (46%)
Liverpool - 7 (14%)
Arsenal - 16 (32%)
Chelsea - 0 (0%)
Manchester United - 3 (6%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (2%)
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Today at 02:08:47 AM

Upcoming two matches later, Manchester United will face not difficult opponent teams Southampton and Crystal Palace become recovery moment for securing three points after bad performance two consecutives loss from Brighton Albion and Liverpool. I doubt with upcoming two matches result if Manchester United got loss about Erik ten Hag position keep secure because fans not happy with Manchester United keep inconsistent performance in this season.
These opponents are not too strong but these matches won't be easy for Manchester United by taking into account their current poor form. If Manchester United can take advantage of these not too tough matches, they can exit the crisis but if they continue to get bad results, the mini crisis will be fueled and become bigger and more severe.

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Manchester United have busy schedule matches after international break out, first have to face Southampton and few days later will play at UEFA Europe League and have three days left before facing Crystal Palace in Premier League match.
The international break out around two week is opportunity for Erik ten Hag how recovery and improving his players after having bad perform in last two consecutives matches.
They will repeat their bad strategies recent seasons by trying in too many competitions but ignoring fact that they don't have enough resources to chase so many ambitious targets in a season. The position of Manchester United in Premier League and Europe is no longer as same as in Sir. Alex Ferguson's era many years ago. Now, they have to determine their main targets like only focus on Premier League and complete this season in top four, not less. Returning to Champions League can help their income and increase confidence of their players too. Going far in Europa League can be harmful for their performances in Premier League and if they can not end this season in top four, it's terrible.

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Today at 02:52:05 AM

Arsenal was not lucky enough during this season and they recently lost their player Mikel Merino who he joined this team just a few days ago. Mikel Merino was the player Arteta wanted to hire him and he tried to get Mikel Merino ready for the games in this season.
He left Real Sociedad and started playing for Arsenal to have the chance to play in strong teams. But in the first training session in Arsenal, he got injured and it seems Merino's going to be out for 2 months.


Maybe Mikel Merino's injury will not have a big impact on Arsenal's performance even though Arteta has indeed prepared this player to make Arsenal even stronger. But it is quite unfortunate that Mikel Merino had to suffer an injury. And I feel even more sorry for the player who had to suffer an injury before he could debut in the Arsenal squad. And it is estimated that he will be able to make his debut when his injury recovers, namely around mid-October. Hopefully this player can recover quickly and he can make a big contribution to Arsenal when he makes his debut next month. The international break might be a good thing for Arsenal. They can give injured players time with this break. So that injured players do not miss more matches.

yes it is indeed very unfortunate that Merino who was prepared to strengthen Arsenal this season must have been injured and of course this must have made Arsenal fans sad but yes what can be done now Arsenal must wait to see Merino play on the field defending Arsenal.

but yes indeed the injury suffered by Merino certainly will not have much impact on Arsenal's strength because of course Arsenal even without Merino certainly has very strong strength but now Merino must be patient because now he is hampered from competing to defend Arsenal for a while. but yes I personally also feel sorry for Merino because of the shoulder injury he suffered and of course I personally can only hope that Merino will recover quickly.

now Arsenal has pocketed 7 points and of course Arteta must really continue to consistently win in every match because of course to realize his dream of becoming a champion of course hard work is needed because of course now Arsenal is in 4th place and of course Arsenal is now really being tested and of course we will see what Arteta will do in his efforts to make Arsenal a champion this season. Yes, hopefully with the international break, the injured players will not miss many matches and of course this is a good thing. The next match is Arsenal against Tottenham and of course we'll just have to wait and see and of course it will be exciting but my gut feeling predicts that Arsenal will potentially win against Tottenham.

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Today at 02:54:34 AM

Arsenal win against Brighton was slightly more likely but Arsenal drew against Brighton. At the end of full time, the result of this match was tied at 1-1. Arsenal took a one-goal lead early on but the biggest reason for Arsenal falling behind was D. Rice's red card. In the 49th minute, the player was sent off after receiving a red card, and in the 54th minute, Brighton players managed to get the ball into the Arsenal goal post. The two teams have played three matches each in the Premier League so far, where the two teams are at the 3rd and 4th positions of the points table with the same number of points  7. However, if one of the two teams wins today's match, it will be seen that any team will go higher on the points table.
The Arsenal last match against Brighton was very surprised game match, because I didn’t expect drew from arsenal in that and in deed they the game lead to a drew which very disappointed with they way they received pressure from Brighton even i when saw Arsenal possession in that match I said that they get luck that was leading the game right from the 38 minute time.

But considering something in that match why the Arsenal performances was not powerful is because of the red arc that the rice received immediately they came back from the first half, that’s what scatter all their positions and the Brighton come use the advantage to begin put pressure on them.
When the opposing team plays with 11 men and another team plays with 10 men, the 10 man team will be far behind the 11 man team. Every player in every position plays a very important role in football game so if any position is empty then every position on the field is random. You will see that Arsenal were ahead by a goal early and their game was very organized but then when one of their players was sent off with a red card, from then on, their game fell into disarray.  And Brighton seized this opportunity. 
After changing to a 10-man team, they were more attacking against Arsenal and the Arsenal player was able to score against Arsenal moments after receiving a red card. Players must be aware that if a player goes out, it is not only the player's loss but the entire team's loss.

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Today at 03:16:47 AM

Maybe Erik Ten Hag's success in presenting the FA Cup title is the reason for management to retain him. I think if that is the reason, it certainly does not match the large investment value that has been disbursed. Of course, anyone would be disappointed if the performance of their favorite team does not experience significant changes. I think it is time for management to give an ultimatum to Ten Hag so that he can improve the team's performance.

He doesn't seem to be aware, there's something wrong with his training model and the management doesn't see it well.

The problem was Ten Hag's coaching issue. He doesn't seem to know his team well. The way he played our fullbacks a way too high up the pitch, then leave Salah and Luis Diaz up the pitch has proven it. That strategy was isolating our CB’s one on one against Liverpool's forwards. It's also triggered press to our CDM. It helps our opponent to get moments to be one on one against our defenders. And it helps Liverpool to beat us 3-0.

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Today at 04:03:17 AM

If we analyze how Arsenal and Brighton game went then we can't really blame Arsenal because Brighton was all over Arsenal in that game and if not that Arsenal became careful after Declan Rice was sent off they would have lost that match to Brighton. Arsenal is trying their best as a team and we should also know that there are teams that gives some bigger teams hard time so Brighton has been doing perfectly well since the season started and they even won Manchester United before they met Arsenal so they are doing great currently and the draw result they got against Arsenal was a fare one because the both team played so good and the red card Declan Rice had made the game become even more balanced. Arsenal have signed some notable players this season and currently they signed Raheem Sterling on loan so they are expected to perform better with the quality of players they have now.
In this match Arsenal really had difficulty developing their strategy. That's why Arsenal really had difficulty scoring goals in this match. Apart from that, Brighton also played very well in this match, Brighton was able to play defensively and was also able to launch attacks that were fast and quite well organized. With the strategy implemented by Brighton, Arsenal was really overwhelmed by Brighton. Moreover, when one of the Arsenal players received a red card, after that Arsenal really slumped and the match continued to be dominated by Brighton very freely. I think Arsenal was still quite lucky in this match, because Brighton was unable to score the winning goal in the match, so the match ended in a draw. Apart from that, this match will certainly be a very good evaluation material for Arteta, because I'm sure Arteta didn't expect his team to end like this. Therefore, with this incident, Arteta must really be able to improve Arsenal's shortcomings. And with this draw, Arsenal is now in 4th place in the Premier League and 2 points behind Manchester City and Liverpool.

This season Liverpool are playing quite well, so everyone who speculated that Liverpool would perform badly after Klopp's departure has of course now been refuted. The reason is that currently Liverpool's performance looks more promising than last season. So in my opinion, Liverpool now has a greater chance of reclaiming the Premier League title. Because it has been proven, this season Liverpool seems to be more productive in scoring goals and so far Liverpool have not conceded a single goal in the Premier League. For this reason, I say that Liverpool has a more promising performance at the moment.

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Today at 05:24:18 AM

Upcoming two matches later, Manchester United will face not difficult opponent teams Southampton and Crystal Palace become recovery moment for securing three points after bad performance two consecutives loss from Brighton Albion and Liverpool. I doubt with upcoming two matches result if Manchester United got loss about Erik ten Hag position keep secure because fans not happy with Manchester United keep inconsistent performance in this season.
These opponents are not too strong but these matches won't be easy for Manchester United by taking into account their current poor form. If Manchester United can take advantage of these not too tough matches, they can exit the crisis but if they continue to get bad results, the mini crisis will be fueled and become bigger and more severe.
Southampton is at the bottom of the standings and will host Man United, I think Man United will be able to win the match if the ego of the players is able to lower to get points in this match, even though they will face Southampton at least Man United can win easily if they know how to win the match, even though playing as a guest but in the game is very different from Southampton, Man United is much more superior but the mistake that Man United often makes is the lack of contribution from all players who have such big egos and in the end continue to experience decline and find it difficult to get full points.

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Today at 06:14:24 AM

The problem was Ten Hag's coaching issue. He doesn't seem to know his team well. The way he played our fullbacks a way too high up the pitch, then leave Salah and Luis Diaz up the pitch has proven it. That strategy was isolating our CB’s one on one against Liverpool's forwards. It's also triggered press to our CDM. It helps our opponent to get moments to be one on one against our defenders. And it helps Liverpool to beat us 3-0.

There is no one to blame except Ten Hag indeed, and indeed for several seasons Ten Hag has handled the Man United team there has been no significant improvement even though he has fixed this team as he wanted with strong support given by Manchester United Management so it can be concluded that Ten Hag is incapable or has failed so it is indeed appropriate for Man United management to replace him, I think there is nothing to wait for anymore, Ten Hag deserves to be fired.

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These opponents are not too strong but these matches won't be easy for Manchester United by taking into account their current poor form. If Manchester United can take advantage of these not too tough matches, they can exit the crisis but if they continue to get bad results, the mini crisis will be fueled and become bigger and more severe.
Southampton is at the bottom of the standings and will host Man United, I think Man United will be able to win the match if the ego of the players is able to lower to get points in this match, even though they will face Southampton at least Man United can win easily if they know how to win the match, even though playing as a guest but in the game is very different from Southampton, Man United is much more superior but the mistake that Man United often makes is the lack of contribution from all players who have such big egos and in the end continue to experience decline and find it difficult to get full points.
Everyone is currently collecting 3 points through Southampton, so it shouldn't be a very difficult task for Manchester United even though they'll be playing away from home, well we all know how poor they're when it comes to away games but that's not an excuse if they fail to win Southampton, what i think is that Erik Ten Hag is doing everything possible to get his team back together after the International break and winning Southampton would buy the heart of fans once more and calm the current pressure on him, failure to do so would bring more questions on the media as to if Erik Ten Hag is the right manager to handle the team. You're right to say Manchester United is more superior though they've had a very poor start this season but they've got a squad that's capable of beating Southampton at ease and that's what they need to do, it's not only beating them but doing so with a good goal margin, about 3 or more goals.

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The problem was Ten Hag's coaching issue. He doesn't seem to know his team well. The way he played our fullbacks a way too high up the pitch, then leave Salah and Luis Diaz up the pitch has proven it. That strategy was isolating our CB’s one on one against Liverpool's forwards. It's also triggered press to our CDM. It helps our opponent to get moments to be one on one against our defenders. And it helps Liverpool to beat us 3-0.

There is no one to blame except Ten Hag indeed, and indeed for several seasons Ten Hag has handled the Man United team there has been no significant improvement even though he has fixed this team as he wanted with strong support given by Manchester United Management so it can be concluded that Ten Hag is incapable or has failed so it is indeed appropriate for Man United management to replace him, I think there is nothing to wait for anymore, Ten Hag deserves to be fired.
Well I actually thinks that he deserves more time, though the Manchester united team might not be playing as good as expected, but he has always won something at the end of the season, which shows one thing that he is a proven winner.
Another thing that makes me believe that he can still fix Manchester united and sacking him now with just three matches played is actually not a good idea is that he has just brought in few players into the team, so they actually needs to gel with the rest of the team for the team to perform at the maximum best, so I believe that giving him more time is the best thing to do.

Lastly, I believe that Eric ten hang still has a lot to offer this Manchester united team, because the only problem I have seen from them is consistency, so if they can be consistent in their top level performance, I believe that they will definitely make a huge progress from last season.


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Apparently for promotion teams it's hard for them to gets the winning results in Premier league because until week 3 whether it Leicester, Southampton and Ipswich still unable to win even Southampton has suffering 3 losing streak and Leicester as championship division winner status also can't do much because they only can able to earn 1 point from 3 latest matches and this makes me doubt that these teams will be able to survive in Premier league especially Southampton because if they unable to bounce back i think most likely they will being an the first team who potentially will be relegated to Championship division early


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There is no one to blame except Ten Hag indeed, and indeed for several seasons Ten Hag has handled the Man United team there has been no significant improvement even though he has fixed this team as he wanted with strong support given by Manchester United Management so it can be concluded that Ten Hag is incapable or has failed so it is indeed appropriate for Man United management to replace him, I think there is nothing to wait for anymore, Ten Hag deserves to be fired.
In this case, it is not only ten Hag who should be blamed, but also the management, because they gave him the opportunity to stay in the team and make new transfers. But in fact, there is no point in blaming anyone, ten Hag did not want the team to start the season so badly, and now it is also difficult to try to change the coach after several matches, so the situation is difficult, for now we can only hope that Manchester United's game will improve, but if this has not happened in several years, then it is unlikely to happen now.

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The problem was Ten Hag's coaching issue. He doesn't seem to know his team well. The way he played our fullbacks a way too high up the pitch, then leave Salah and Luis Diaz up the pitch has proven it. That strategy was isolating our CB’s one on one against Liverpool's forwards. It's also triggered press to our CDM. It helps our opponent to get moments to be one on one against our defenders. And it helps Liverpool to beat us 3-0.


As it is Ten Hags is not in a good position at all to manage Manchester United and very soon he's going to get served because the expectations for this season were high and it is looking as if the Red Devils are even becoming worse than Chelsea because look like they are already recovering and ten hag coaching is not just suitable for Manchester united at the moment and even when they played against Liverpool they had too many yellow cards and during the game, Liverpool had only one yellow card and this is does that under strategy Liverpool don't know how to do much but they understand football. Liverpool is not the kind of club that you will say will stress over you, Manchester united was looking as if they were forcing things and it did not work that was among the reasons they were unable to score i just wish Ten Hag the best in the rest of the season because I feel there is a lot for ten hags to do if they allow him to continue, and since there next game is against Southampton they might have a shot against them.

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The problem was Ten Hag's coaching issue. He doesn't seem to know his team well. The way he played our fullbacks a way too high up the pitch, then leave Salah and Luis Diaz up the pitch has proven it. That strategy was isolating our CB’s one on one against Liverpool's forwards. It's also triggered press to our CDM. It helps our opponent to get moments to be one on one against our defenders. And it helps Liverpool to beat us 3-0.


As it is Ten Hags is not in a good position at all to manage Manchester United and very soon he's going to get served because the expectations for this season were high and it is looking as if the Red Devils are even becoming worse than Chelsea because look like they are already recovering and ten hag coaching is not just suitable for Manchester united at the moment and even when they played against Liverpool they had too many yellow cards and during the game, Liverpool had only one yellow card and this is does that under strategy Liverpool don't know how to do much but they understand football. Liverpool is not the kind of club that you will say will stress over you, Manchester united was looking as if they were forcing things and it did not work that was among the reasons they were unable to score i just wish Ten Hag the best in the rest of the season because I feel there is a lot for ten hags to do if they allow him to continue, and since there next game is against Southampton they might have a shot against them.

I don't think what you are saying is going to happen because it seems he have the full backing of the Manchester United management, look at what I saw this morning.
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'Erik has our full backing' - Man Utd chiefs insist Ten Hag not in danger of sack even if results worsen
Erik ten Hag has the "full backing" of Manchester United chief executive Omar Berrada and sporting director Dan Ashworth, even if results worsen.

The Dutchman, who narrowly held on to his job after a disappointing eighth-place finish last season, mainly thanks to beating Manchester City in the FA Cup final, is once again under pressure following a heavy 3-0 defeat to Liverpool at Old Trafford. That result leaves United languishing in 14th place in the Premier League, with just three points from their first three matches and it has been suggested he could become the first manager to be sacked in the division this season.

WHAT OMAR BERRADA SAID
Amid the uncertainty, Berrada made it clear that the club’s leadership remains fully behind the manager.

“Erik has our full backing and we have worked very closely together in this transfer window," he told reporters. “We’re going to continue working very closely with him to help him get the best results of the team.”

When questioned about whether the club’s confidence in Ten Hag will remain even if results worsen, Berrada was unequivocal: “Absolutely. We think Erik is the right coach for us, and we’re fully backing him.”

Source link:https://www.goal.com/en/lists/erik-full-backing-man-utd-chiefs-insist-ten-hag-not-in-danger-sack-even-if-results-worsen/blt5dd5cbf2b2e4ef73#cs13e0fd19d8fde829

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Southampton is at the bottom of the standings and will host Man United, I think Man United will be able to win the match if the ego of the players is able to lower to get points in this match, even though they will face Southampton at least Man United can win easily if they know how to win the match, even though playing as a guest but in the game is very different from Southampton, Man United is much more superior but the mistake that Man United often makes is the lack of contribution from all players who have such big egos and in the end continue to experience decline and find it difficult to get full points.
We need to note that every failure experienced by Man United is not the fault or selfishness of each player. But it all happened to the coach who rotated the Man United players. Just look at how Man United was able to beat Fulham. From that match we can see that in fact MU players are still ready to be able to get points in every match but all Man United players only obey every strategy given by Ten Hag.
Many say that Man United poor performance was caused by Ten Hag failure to rotate players. And on the one hand Ten Hag also has problems with players who are currently injured. So he can't rotate perfectly to get a stable performance.

And related to against Southampton, there are only 2 final results between MU winning or drawing. But the chances of winning are greater.

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Today at 07:51:52 AM

The problem was Ten Hag's coaching issue. He doesn't seem to know his team well. The way he played our fullbacks a way too high up the pitch, then leave Salah and Luis Diaz up the pitch has proven it. That strategy was isolating our CB’s one on one against Liverpool's forwards. It's also triggered press to our CDM. It helps our opponent to get moments to be one on one against our defenders. And it helps Liverpool to beat us 3-0.

There is no one to blame except Ten Hag indeed, and indeed for several seasons Ten Hag has handled the Man United team there has been no significant improvement even though he has fixed this team as he wanted with strong support given by Manchester United Management so it can be concluded that Ten Hag is incapable or has failed so it is indeed appropriate for Man United management to replace him, I think there is nothing to wait for anymore, Ten Hag deserves to be fired.

It'll be unfair if we should put all the blames on Eric Ten Hang for Manchester united misfortune. Quite alright, he's the head couch and should be hold responsible but I think he'd enough already. He's not on pitch, it's the player's duty to make good out of whatever pattern he introduced to them. For the past two seasons,Manchester united have been so disappointing on pitch with their constant losing of possessions and throwing away wins at late minutes of the matches. Most at times, they hide behind their opponents. They don't spread well to receive clean passes. The defenders move out of their position before the ball moves out of their own half. Coming to goal keeper, all it takes is for someone to take a shot and before you know it's a goal. How are we going to put all these on couch? Players should also have their own potion of blames for the nonsense they use to play with the instruction of non tactical couch.

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Today at 08:00:26 AM

There is no one to blame except Ten Hag indeed, and indeed for several seasons Ten Hag has handled the Man United team there has been no significant improvement even though he has fixed this team as he wanted with strong support given by Manchester United Management so it can be concluded that Ten Hag is incapable or has failed so it is indeed appropriate for Man United management to replace him, I think there is nothing to wait for anymore, Ten Hag deserves to be fired.
In this case, it is not only ten Hag who should be blamed, but also the management, because they gave him the opportunity to stay in the team and make new transfers. But in fact, there is no point in blaming anyone, ten Hag did not want the team to start the season so badly, and now it is also difficult to try to change the coach after several matches, so the situation is difficult, for now we can only hope that Manchester United's game will improve, but if this has not happened in several years, then it is unlikely to happen now.

Problems cannot be solved by blaming anyone. Ten Hag is not capable of changing Manchester United's status as we realized last season. But even then the management gave him more opportunities and also helped to buy new players. However, Manchester United should now look for an experienced coach. If we do not find an experienced coach, we will see this team in the 7th/8th place in the table this season.

The main weakness of Manchester United's squad is that they have no consistent match strategy. And this is why the understanding between the players is not good. Bad match strategy is the biggest reason for United's poor performance. This is why United's situation is unlikely to improve unless Ten Hag is sacked.

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There is no one to blame except Ten Hag indeed, and indeed for several seasons Ten Hag has handled the Man United team there has been no significant improvement even though he has fixed this team as he wanted with strong support given by Manchester United Management so it can be concluded that Ten Hag is incapable or has failed so it is indeed appropriate for Man United management to replace him, I think there is nothing to wait for anymore, Ten Hag deserves to be fired.
The players are the headache of Erik Ten Hag and the club, it means absolutely everything to get the players in good shape for preparation of league games. Erik Ten Hag will not leave Old Trafford, he's finding means to secure his job this season but following the poor results recorded by the Red Devils, his job seems a little bit at risk. The team's management is not relenting, working towards success and accomplishing their goals, it do comes with consistent performance to stay at the top. Manchester United will explore but not in their current state. Erik Ten Hag have to make decisions that will provide crucial aides for the club, he will make good changes, make appropriate signings and having to distribute key tactics for the club.
 

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Today at 08:32:02 AM

Apparently for promotion teams it's hard for them to gets the winning results in Premier league because until week 3 whether it Leicester, Southampton and Ipswich still unable to win even Southampton has suffering 3 losing streak and Leicester as championship division winner status also can't do much because they only can able to earn 1 point from 3 latest matches and this makes me doubt that these teams will be able to survive in Premier league especially Southampton because if they unable to bounce back i think most likely they will being an the first team who potentially will be relegated to Championship division early
They need support from rich Arabian to make them able to sign many top players, playing with the same players in Premier League is a complete disaster since they don't have a same quality like Premier League's players.

If Southampton or Leicester City can survive, it's nothing surprising since they were in Premier League before. But, if Ipswich Town can survive, it's really a milestone for them. Imagine, a team that relegated from Championship to League One, but after they get promoted from League One to Championship, they also promoted from Championship to League One in the next year. Survive is enough, however if they can finish as runner up, it will be a mind blowing lol.

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Today at 08:33:47 AM

The players are the headache of Erik Ten Hag and the club, it means absolutely everything to get the players in good shape for preparation of league games. Erik Ten Hag will not leave Old Trafford, he's finding means to secure his job this season but following the poor results recorded by the Red Devils, his job seems a little bit at risk. The team's management is not relenting, working towards success and accomplishing their goals, it do comes with consistent performance to stay at the top. Manchester United will explore but not in their current state. Erik Ten Hag have to make decisions that will provide crucial aides for the club, he will make good changes, make appropriate signings and having to distribute key tactics for the club.
 
It's still early in the season and I think it's too early to say that Manchester United management will take a decision to stop Erik Ten Hag.
Overall, since the beginning of Erik Ten Hag's arrival as Manchester United's coach, he has indeed been seen as unable to bring about change even though he has been given support, but at the beginning of last season, Manchester United's management has decided to extend Erik Ten Hag's contract, so from what has been decided by the management, they must accept it now, although it cannot be denied that I also agree that Erik Ten Hag's coaching seat is currently starting to waver.

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Today at 08:42:33 AM

There is no one to blame except Ten Hag indeed, and indeed for several seasons Ten Hag has handled the Man United team there has been no significant improvement even though he has fixed this team as he wanted with strong support given by Manchester United Management so it can be concluded that Ten Hag is incapable or has failed so it is indeed appropriate for Man United management to replace him, I think there is nothing to wait for anymore, Ten Hag deserves to be fired.
If Manchester United had to fire Ten Hag at the beginning of this season, of course the team must be able to find a more appropriate coach in a short time which will not be easy enough for the Manchester United team management itself. I also think that Ten Hag has indeed run out of ideas to fix the Manchester United team so that the team has not been able to develop since the beginning of the season and that was clearly seen when Manchester United faced a big team like Liverpool at Old Trafford last weekend.

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