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August 28, 2020, 12:52:31 PM |
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Every country wants to do the best for its people. In this pandemic, the government allocated a large part of its budget for public health and welfare. almost all countries have the same problem, namely a declining economy that forces the government to make loans to other countries. It's sad but it has to be because that's the best they can do.
One thing which may hold true is that many countries are trying their best so that the need which is required to the lowest level person it reaches it, but unfortunately there would be corruption in between levels due to which that help would not be able to reach to all the required people and also in coming time the biggest challenge to all government would be the job creation so that unemployed people get back into the job and make a earning for themselves.
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August 28, 2020, 01:55:02 PM |
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Every country wants to do the best for its people. In this pandemic, the government allocated a large part of its budget for public health and welfare. almost all countries have the same problem, namely a declining economy that forces the government to make loans to other countries. It's sad but it has to be because that's the best they can do.
One thing which may hold true is that many countries are trying their best so that the need which is required to the lowest level person it reaches it, but unfortunately there would be corruption in between levels due to which that help would not be able to reach to all the required people and also in coming time the biggest challenge to all government would be the job creation so that unemployed people get back into the job and make a earning for themselves. that is why every election we are taught to vote wisely not just vote if who gave you bribes because later on we will realize its difference . i feel sorry for those countries that has a corupt leader because people dont get or dont get enough help . @op , people wont panic if they know the truth that covid is not real , government maybe are the one that will panic because people will attack them
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Its not a about Medical issue. Its just smoke and mirrors. Its a about Economic issue. Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest. But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!! The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea The rulers who run world are smart like me But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liqutity problem? Conspiracy theories are usually stupid and this one is not an exception. The US is suffering a widespread outbreak because it won't undergo strict lockdown procedures, and as a country with a massive debt load it fails the very correlating test you propose in your conspiracy theory. Further, shutting down economic activity to try and stem the flow of the virus makes it even more difficult to service the debt loads a country carries as tax revenues drop as a direct result of lower economic activity, so your theory that the countries with the highest debt load have purposely introduced lockdowns as a means to hide their debt problems doesn't even make logical sense. It would actually make the debt problems all the more apparent as the share of debt-to-GDP would skyrocket. ...the point i made was that the covid is just economic smoke and mirror for real problem wich is debt bubble. same was happening 2008 when crash was not that big so they did not need to hide this crash with some smoke and mirrors scheme. but every 10 years the economic circle will start and will end so everytime the end of the bull martkets and starting of the debt p´bubble will be more and more painful. we have more credit and loans then actual money is existing the next 10 years i dont think the covid 19 smoke and mirrors idea can even hide the problem. 2030 will be painful coz by that time the smoke and mirrors covid cant hide anymore i guess so. When you say "smoke and mirrors" that connotes an intentional deception. Maybe that's not your point? Maybe you just mean it's a distraction. That might be closer to a legitimate point, but I'd still disagree with it. The two aren't related. The 2008 crash was absolutely monstrous. There was systemic collapse throughout the financial system and liquidity evaporated. It would have continued to cascade had the government not stepped in to bailout financial firms. You can take issue with whether that was the right call or not, but it's a fact that financial firms would have continued to go under with increasing severity if the situation was not stabilized with massive injections of new money, which came in the form of quantitative easing.
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August 28, 2020, 03:54:35 PM |
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So, you are saying that all these people who are supposedly are "dead" are not dead? All these masks are for nothing, the virus is a hoax and we could all go outside like nothing happened and we all would be fine?
Well, if that is the case please do go outside without mask and ask someone who has corona virus to sneeze on you, since he doesn't really have the "corona" virus because it doesn't even exists, you should be fine and you would be free to go home and you will get better. Hell just in case do this once a month until they say there is no more virus, that way you can prove people that you have been coughing distance of a corona patient once a month and tried to get it yet you are still fine, that would show them!! If this sounds too stupid to you, because it is, and so is what you said.
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August 29, 2020, 01:14:10 AM |
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So, you are saying that all these people who are supposedly are "dead" are not dead? All these masks are for nothing, the virus is a hoax and we could all go outside like nothing happened and we all would be fine?
Well, if that is the case please do go outside without mask and ask someone who has corona virus to sneeze on you, since he doesn't really have the "corona" virus because it doesn't even exists, you should be fine and you would be free to go home and you will get better. Hell just in case do this once a month until they say there is no more virus, that way you can prove people that you have been coughing distance of a corona patient once a month and tried to get it yet you are still fine, that would show them!! If this sounds too stupid to you, because it is, and so is what you said.
the OP needs to contemplate and revisit again the statements that he wrote. deaths can't be faked as you can see it everyday in the news. if this is not caused by the virus then what is? there are still individuals who up until now believe that this covid pandemic is a hoax. curious where they are living why they are not experiencing the effect of this pandemic? or just ignoring the facts and pretend that this is not happening?
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August 29, 2020, 05:25:41 AM |
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Covid19 is going to save the economy by killing lots of people that's for sure.
So do you think that overpopulation is the main problem in every part of the world? Look at China, they have a strong and stable economy even if they have the largest population globally, I'm not saying that their system is good, but they are just taking advantage of overpopulation to strengthen their labors and manufacturing. Overpopulation is not the problem they just know how to adapt depending on the situation. Resources are limited, people are increasing day by day. The born to died ratio is always in favor of the born. People who are born every second globally is higher than the people who are dying so in short, overpopulation is happening. I still remember the prediction of Stephen Hawking regarding the overpopulated Earth. One thing more is China isn't the same as the other countries. Yes they have a strong economy right now because they know how to handle it but look at India. One of the most over populated country but they aren't as strong as China. In order for the world to balance, things like this must happen in order for the economy to be saved. Like I said, resources is limited in the world so we need events like this for the economy to be saved. Its hard to think but that is the truth in this cruel world ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Sure, natural resources are limited, but we aren’t really lacking resources that much to say that a global pandemic is something we need to control the overpopulation. Remember that during the lockdown, many women conceived. Those additional lockdown babies would then just add up to the population. The deaths would just be ‘nullify’ because of the additional births that took place during the pandemic. This just contradicts your statement saying this event is necessary. Another thing for resources is that companies are manufacturing food and other necessities for consumption. The only thing needed to avail these is money, which would be generated if the economy is in good shape. And right now, I don’t think the economic status of each country is at its stable and nice form. This pandemic brought so much more struggle especially to those third world countries’ economy. The developed and soaring countries are the only ones benefiting from this since their economies didn’t take a hit that much, compared to the poor ones.
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August 29, 2020, 07:10:47 AM |
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You can certainly try to develop this theory to throw evidence and form a full-fledged conspiracy theory to the delight of conspiracy theorists - but as we said above, you immediately have a fundamental error goes at least with the same result. I think if you look and the rest of the country with large debts it is possible to see is the picture. Only few people in the world care about debt if the economy is successful. This is a standard economic process and it is quite difficult for countries to live here and now (in some places) without it. Let me remind you that there are no countries in the world without external debt in principle.
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August 29, 2020, 11:04:47 PM |
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I think that was certainly an allegation and no certain proof to support that covid-19 is being placed as a smoke to cover the debts that the government have. It is just that the strict implementation of the health protocols are being executed is to prevent the spread of the virus and to manage the rising numbers of the infected cases of individuals that a certain country is having for there is still no cure to end up this pandemic. There is no distinct and proven relationship that the debts of the government are being covered up by implementing strict health protocols. The strict implementation are done because it is in need and the call of the situation.
Maybe strict protocols are being held to manage the possibility of having more debts because if the infectious rate would be manage as early as possible, then there is no certain need to borrow money from bigger nations to support health related expenses. But that does not certainly intended to cover up the debts that the government have committed.
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August 30, 2020, 03:45:24 AM |
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They are not totally hiding these problems. Leaders are actually helping each other and looking for best solutions to fight the economic disaster brought by this covid19. It's unexpected generally, because it was hidden on it's early stage. Temporary solutions are to make works less people, so there are ones that are scheduled alternately. This will help the economy somehow to stabilized.
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August 30, 2020, 05:24:27 AM |
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They are not totally hiding these problems. Leaders are actually helping each other and looking for best solutions to fight the economic disaster brought by this covid19. It's unexpected generally, because it was hidden on it's early stage. Temporary solutions are to make works less people, so there are ones that are scheduled alternately. This will help the economy somehow to stabilized.
OP might be professing a conspiracy theory, while reading OP's post I got a stroke. In the first place, why hide your problems when your citizens can see the cracks slowly showing. The reason that we have this economic problem is that most of the countries do not have a very good emergency measure, my country for example is too incompetent to make an efficient measure regarding the current state of the country, they instead kill their critics and tolerate their corrupt personnel.
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August 30, 2020, 03:37:11 PM |
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I am not understanding what you’re saying, what makes you so sure about what you’re saying here? Have you been to every country to see how the lockdown restrictions were carried out to know which one is strict or not? You can’t even prove what you have said here and someone else already made it clear that you’re wrong and you can check the second comment on your post. It is all around a well put solution. Burst the debt bubble, kill most of the elders and relieve the social security system, possibly change the banking system to a new one along the way...
It is the full systemic reset that everybody has been waiting for years.
Ugh... Killing lots of people? I don’t know for you, but an economy reset that’s going to be killing everyone is not what I’m looking for, so I wasn’t expecting that. Would be best if it happened in another way, you know anyone can be a victim of this, including you.
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August 30, 2020, 04:00:27 PM |
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I am not understanding what you’re saying, what makes you so sure about what you’re saying here? Have you been to every country to see how the lockdown restrictions were carried out to know which one is strict or not? You can’t even prove what you have said here and someone else already made it clear that you’re wrong and you can check the second comment on your post. It is all around a well put solution. Burst the debt bubble, kill most of the elders and relieve the social security system, possibly change the banking system to a new one along the way...
It is the full systemic reset that everybody has been waiting for years.
Ugh... Killing lots of people? I don’t know for you, but an economy reset that’s going to be killing everyone is not what I’m looking for, so I wasn’t expecting that. Would be best if it happened in another way, you know anyone can be a victim of this, including you. Let's get real, you can't fix the social security system in any other way. Millennials and the gen Z don't have that kind of income to support the older people's retirement payments and health expenses. There are just too many of them. I know, this includes my parents too and I am not too far away to become one of those elder people but that's the truth. The current population growth is unsustainable. It is like that Batman movie (with Joker)... We'll have to make a choice. It is either the older people die or else the youngsters will work for free. This should also be an eye opener to everybody. Don't waste all your money on silly shit. Always save some. The real shit will hit the fan when my gen become the boomers. Covid19 will look innocent when the time comes.
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August 31, 2020, 08:29:31 AM |
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I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liqutity problem?
So this is the one you discovered? Or just your own theory? The theory is realistic, I also believe that our leaders are not fully honest to us, running a country is like running a business, not everything is transparent but it's up to us to spot based on what we believe what would possibly happen in the future that most people aren't seeing it now. So if we are seeing it, we are smart if we prepared for it.
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August 31, 2020, 08:31:54 AM |
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Interesting thing to see people being able to think like this. I mean I knew that there are people who like tin foil hat type of thinking and why not, they are usually either not hurting anyone or they are just hurting other idiots like them so it is not really a big deal most of the time.
But, this is the same type of thinking that brought us the anti-vaccination people as well, it is a scientifically proven thing that vaccine doesn't cause autism and even if it does at a very tiny minor case, the otherside is death, so I rather have 50%!! (which more like 0.0006% even according to idiots who believe it, the reality is 0%) autism chance over 100% chance. So lets hope that these "covid is not real" type of people do not really start to hurt other people as well and cause more death.
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Xembin
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August 31, 2020, 10:30:44 AM |
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This is the time, for the economy of some countries to be balance. Covid-19 has made some government to improve in their economy to be stabilize in massive profit in the future. I notice something about some countries in the world in this pandemic, some of the country that fail to plan their economy well, they are the one crying about their lost in this covid-19 period.
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justdimin
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September 01, 2020, 07:01:08 AM |
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You know what is sad about the real situation? When you ask democrats, they say that only thing that is needed is cops actually arresting people, not like they want them to be let go free, just taze them and handcuff them and put them back of the cop car where they can't leave, and they will be sent to jail and appear in front of a judge and get their sentence if they are really wrong. That is all, let's say they have a knife, well taze them?
Let's say they have a gun and pointing at you, shoot them at that moment. So as you can see just because someone is criminal doesn't mean cops could shoot them, there is NO justification, taze them, handcuff them and put them in the car, simple as that. Republicans on the other hand want to kill the protestors who want to protest the racial injustice, HOW IS THAT THE SAME?
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September 02, 2020, 10:50:07 AM |
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Its not a about Medical issue. Its just smoke and mirrors. Its a about Economic issue. Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest. But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!! The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea The rulers who run world are smart like me But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liqutity problem? Seems like you are saying that each government Let their people dies just to Hide their debts? what kind of mind thinking is that? you don't Know how valuable life is just to make something out like this to Give your hallucinations in words. Corono Virus is killing people hour after hour or even Minute after minute and here you are making such post without even thinking how people feels.
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Kong Hey Pakboy
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September 02, 2020, 04:03:48 PM |
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Its not a about Medical issue. Its just smoke and mirrors. Its a about Economic issue. Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest. But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!! The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea The rulers who run world are smart like me But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liqutity problem? Seems like you are saying that each government Let their people dies just to Hide their debts? what kind of mind thinking is that? you don't Know how valuable life is just to make something out like this to Give your hallucinations in words. Corono Virus is killing people hour after hour or even Minute after minute and here you are making such post without even thinking how people feels. I agree. No government would like to hide their debts and will just let their people dies because I think even they are not a good leader, they will still do everything for their country's safety. The reasons why some countries have huge debts, so they could just provide the needs of every hospitals to cure their COVID-19 patients during the pandemic.
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Kasabus
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September 02, 2020, 07:14:00 PM |
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Its not a about Medical issue. Its just smoke and mirrors. Its a about Economic issue. Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest. But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!! The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea The rulers who run world are smart like me But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liqutity problem? Seems like you are saying that each government Let their people dies just to Hide their debts? what kind of mind thinking is that? you don't Know how valuable life is just to make something out like this to Give your hallucinations in words. Corono Virus is killing people hour after hour or even Minute after minute and here you are making such post without even thinking how people feels. I agree. No government would like to hide their debts and will just let their people dies because I think even they are not a good leader, they will still do everything for their country's safety. The reasons why some countries have huge debts, so they could just provide the needs of every hospitals to cure their COVID-19 patients during the pandemic. Yes. I think it is a must now for the government to secure the safety of the citizens from corona virus even if it means increasing their current debts just to provide the basic needs not just for the hospitals and their medical facilities but for all the citizens living in a country.
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aiguy
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September 05, 2020, 10:01:30 AM |
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one point is right that is we are facing such a worst leader
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