COCK FIGHTING: COVID-19 health protocols violators, caught

[plvbob0070]

Even before, I keep seeing news about some people violating and getting caught going outside for cockfighting and it's not something new, I guess? People will keep violating the rules again and again and won't stop unless they get caught. Some are even backed by government officials because they're also betting on it.

I don't really like it when I see news like that because most of those who are involved in cockfighting are the ones who are asking for money and help of the government, then they'll just use it in gambling instead of using it wisely. And aside from that, they're also risking their health (they might get infected by the virus) and security (might gets caught by officials).

[masulum]

This is also happening in my village, they think that COVID is just a lie by the government, the government wants to trouble the people and have nonsensical opinions. They don't care about other people's risks, all they have in mind is fun and money. It's useless to also tell those who think it's no longer a disease. They will continue to gamble like there is nothing.

[AicecreaME]

With the ever increasing lockdown, people have no options left than to disobey, this self confinement is driving many people crazy and they want something to keep them occupied.

They have a lot of reasons why they should never disobeyed. It would be understandable if they went out to buy some food instead, but they didn't. This "self confinement" that you were saying is not even enough for someone to go outside and play gambling.

My point here is that instead of wasting your money into something not valuable at all, why not use it for your needs, or your family needs so that you can see your wife and kids smiling, with that, you could already wipe up your sadness.

[FlightyPouch]

People here in our province are underestimating the virus the reason people are not following some protocols and even continues to go to some places where they could get the virus. I guess that is the same for those cockfight bettors. Tupada are illegal here but people are doing it because of how light the police are. I guess it is because of the fact that our place is kind of far from the PNP office so they could do what they wanted.

[AicecreaME]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

They should be fined more because they are risking their community to the virus.  All I can say is that these people who are violating the covid-19 health protocol are selfish, thinking only their own entertainment.

We all know that is not worth the risk but these people don't mind other people nor the health of their family just to give in to the urge of gambling entertainment.

I don't think so, the fine is to give them a little bit scare, not to make a living for our fellow Filipino people. PHP36,000 is high enough for others not to try this kind of violation as well. Getting caught, paying up your fine is enough for someone to realize the lesson.

And for the health risk we are all concerned about, those who were caught were all tested negative for COVID-19, so there is no reason to worry about COVID spreading here in our province, which in fact that there's only 2 active cases here and they are already being taken care of in the main hospital here.

[Insanerman]

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

We cannot simply blame those people whom do such actions due to them having financial problems. I think the poverty driven them to gamble despite having a tough quarantine prohibitions. Well if I were to be honest, being on a troublesome life would also lead me to do the same. Besides, as long as they haven't been affected with the virus, then it should be fine. But the penalty and fine is just evil, they can simply stop the activity and letting the gamblers go back to their families.

[panganib999]

Let me just put it in correct manner, MGCQ stands for (Modified General Community Quarantine) which is a much better version of GCQ for some restrictions are being modified so that somehow people can move freely on certain adjustments but still with the concern of exhibiting the health protocols to prevent the further spread of the virus.

Back to the discussion, I guess the OP belongs to the country Philippines for he have mentioned about cock fighting which is one of the most common gambling games that adults and even teenagers are playing mostly on the parts of province. The government have already clarified certain protocols that includes no mass gathering and temporary postponement or cancellation of gambling games and events to avoid the possibility of spreading the virus due to crowd. It is just that there are certain people who is really hard headed and cannot take anymore their boredom that is why they keep on abiding what is stated on the protocols making them to pay a fine. Fines are not being made to make them suffer but to make them be afraid of paying a large amount of payment for not following the rules. But due to being hard headed, still lots of people are doing what they want and if got infected always do blame on the government for the act they have personally done. In an obvious manner, it is not worth risking your health for the sake of betting on a cock fighting event for what you can win will be just used as a payment for doing what is against the rule so in short it is useless and nonsense.

[btc_angela]

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

We cannot simply blame those people whom do such actions due to them having financial problems. I think the poverty driven them to gamble despite having a tough quarantine prohibitions. Well if I were to be honest, being on a troublesome life would also lead me to do the same. Besides, as long as they haven't been affected with the virus, then it should be fine. But the penalty and fine is just evil, they can simply stop the activity and letting the gamblers go back to their families.

Yes, probably they are driven because of poverty, however, if you don't have money then how can you gamble in cockfighting? doesn't make sense. And there are cases reported in the Philippines that people who got the stimulus package from the government are using that money not to buy food but to gamble. So I guess it's right to impose a heavy fine for these kind of people who opted to gamble their money instead of bringing food in the table for their families.

[lionheart78]

Yes, probably they are driven because of poverty, however, if you don't have money then how can you gamble in cockfighting? doesn't make sense. And there are cases reported in the Philippines that people who got the stimulus package from the government are using that money not to buy food but to gamble. So I guess it's right to impose a heavy fine for these kind of people who opted to gamble their money instead of bringing food in the table for their families.

I don't think that they are driven because of poverty.  Just as you said, if they are so poor they won't have money to bet on that cockfighting.  I believe it is just their lust for entertainment that leads them to watch and gamble in a cockfighting event.  If they have no money and intend to earn some, they should be more focused on an income-generating activity that can give them sure money in exchange of their service.

[goaldigger]

Cock fighting can be done on any open area and they can easily make profit on this that's why they are willing to take the risk not just for their health but also for the security of their family just to have money.

 If I'm going to be asked, this action is not acceptable considering that most of the player are considered as poor by many yet they have the money to gamble. I experience to watch a cock fighting before on open area, and when the authority comes everyone is running for their life and doing everything just not to get caught. They are violators, and they have to suffer for that and face the consequences, this is not worth it after all.

[Baofeng]

Not surprised though, about a week ago, I heard the same news here, police busted an illegal cock fighting den, and what make its sad though is that there are local officials that is involved as protectors. So this gamblers doesn't really care about their health, as long as they can continue with their vices and they know that they are not going to jail because they're being protected by crooked cops and some local officials.

[Quidat]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

Its actually a matter of choice and those people had chose on playing and violating just for the sake of gambling and now they had been caught then they would need to face up those consequences because the those prohibition
specially on a quarantine period is just for the sake of its citizens itself but people cant just help or not able to control theirselves and chose to play in spite of the pandemic situation.This isnt for the good for government but for themselves and to the time where these people get infected then it just worsen up the situation where their own financial capacity would be affected and so as on the entire problem as a whole on a certain place.
Lots of factors will really be in next on line that would be hit up on a bigger problem so it isnt really worth on the risk.

[crzy]

Cock Fighting is very traditional way of gambling in our place , no surprise on this since they are doing this even before the pandemic but since the risk of getting infected is high, they should not do this and they should follow the protocol of the government or else they will suffer for that. I don't mind telling them not to do this because I'm sure they wont listen to me so If I see some group of people doing this, I'll tell the authority right away to stop this illegal gambling and to prevent them from infecting other people especially their families.

[TimeTeller]

Cock Fighting is very traditional way of gambling in our place , no surprise on this since they are doing this even before the pandemic but since the risk of getting infected is high, they should not do this and they should follow the protocol of the government or else they will suffer for that. I don't mind telling them not to do this because I'm sure they wont listen to me so If I see some group of people doing this, I'll tell the authority right away to stop this illegal gambling and to prevent them from infecting other people especially their families.

They should be penalized as the government is trying hard to contain the virus.
And yet, there are people who prioritized their gambling desire over the health protocols.
So it is just right that they will pay high fees for violating their pandemic regulations.
And the sad part here is that some govt officials are also protecting this illegal gambling activity.
Not surprising for a corrupt society. People should follow the govt as it is for their own good.

[livingfree]

They can't stop themselves.

It's a habit that they barely control and what their mind is telling them is that they have to do that regardless of the situation. Cock fighting or any form of gambling can't be stop if the people on that place can't control themselves.

Fines? if they have the money, they wouldn't care if they can bail out.

[carlfebz2]

Cock Fighting is very traditional way of gambling in our place , no surprise on this since they are doing this even before the pandemic but since the risk of getting infected is high, they should not do this and they should follow the protocol of the government or else they will suffer for that. I don't mind telling them not to do this because I'm sure they wont listen to me so If I see some group of people doing this, I'll tell the authority right away to stop this illegal gambling and to prevent them from infecting other people especially their families.

They should be penalized as the government is trying hard to contain the virus.
And yet, there are people who prioritized their gambling desire over the health protocols.
So it is just right that they will pay high fees for violating their pandemic regulations.
And the sad part here is that some govt officials are also protecting this illegal gambling activity.
Not surprising for a corrupt society. People should follow the govt as it is for their own good.

This is the sad truth on the society nowadays where corruption is still on play even we are on a very hard situation.There would really be protectors into these kind of gambling activity which if you do think up
seriously where these events can really be stopped or postponed yet knowing that cockfights do really have that huge number of gamblers on one venue.

Its impossible that no one would able to report it out or even locking those venues would already be a solution.If its held open then someone do really let them do the stuff.

Every violators should really be penalized and make it sure to be on big amounts so that they would really have second thoughts on violating it.

[MCobian]

In my opinion, it cannot be justified for whatever reason if it violates government regulations. And not the best way to make money
by gambling on cock fighting, to raise the finances we need. Because there are much better ways to earn money in a pandemic like
now. Even though you want to play gambling, you should just play online gambling which is proven to be safer.

[bisdak40]

Perhaps, we think that is not worth doing, but people are trying to make money in many ways. Some people are trying to make money from cockfighting, and even they know the risk if they are caught. The situations force them to do anything, so they can have money to buy their daily needs.

As you said, we don't know what their reason for betting on cockfighting. But one thing that we know, for a small society, is what they can do now because perhaps, they don't find any jobs available for them. We hope that people can find jobs to make money, so they don't have to bet in gambling games.

Cockfighting is a gamble and not a job that one could make money out of it. People who are engage in the illegal cockfighting are cockfight enthusiast and as we all know here in the Philippines, cockfighting is not yet allowed even if the quarantine status is MGCQ. People are just hard-headed and refuse to follow government rules and regulations, that one problem of a nation that have too much democracy.

I'm a cockfight enthusiast myself and even discourage some people on going to this illegal game as this may cause more problems on them if caught by the authorities. A fine of 50-80 thousand pesos is too much for an ordinary individual so it's better to follow the law and wait for a couple of months because this cockfighting game will be back soon if the situation become better.

[Kemarit]

Let them violate the heath protocols I'm sure they will see what's the consequences will be if not getting infected by the corona virus, which the Philippines is second in Asia if I'm not mistaken. If they got lucky, then their is the police that's going to arrest them with jail time and heavy fines.

So it is worth it? Hell no, they should have save and keep that money because we really don't know how long this pandemic will last. And it just shows that gamblers are really bad in making decisions.

[Debonaire217]

Even Cock Fighting could be online now too! Why are people behaving like there's no pandemic. The procedure is quite easy, there should be a responsible management wherein, only the owner of the Cocks needs to be present, set up a good angle for the cameras and then live broadcast it in any platform they like. But since it is a province, I think the hindrance is the accessibility of the people to search for good platforms and to use it well. Maybe, to solve that issue, they need first to learn how online gambling works.