COCK FIGHTING: COVID-19 health protocols violators, caught

[target]

The problem with scenarios like this is that the police are also part of these gambling community. Sabungeros knew each other within a specific city, all the cockfight bettors knew each other even the police that goes there in the area. It's a small community that keeps the communication, they even travel together to visit a small town derby. It will be a pain in the ass for local authorities who are also sabungeros.

Those who violated the protocols could be detained and issue penalty but it boils down to whether there is something to gain really.  They'd spend a week to squeeze $10 from each of them but will they be willing to put a crowd the tiny jailhouse. If authorities detain a big fish, they'd be in trouble too.

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[pakhitheboss]

Stupidity actually does not have a cure. Only stupid people will take such a risk, they forgot that because of them their family might be also at risk of contracting this virus.

In the end, those who were caught lost everything they might have won.

[milewilda]

We can not blame people who caught betting on cockfighting. Maybe they want to make money from that, so they break the rule to still playing. We can say that is not worth, but if they don't have anything that they can do, hm they will still do it as what we read.

I think there will be another cockfighting in another place because people who addicted to that will still search for the other place, especially for people who don't have a job to make money.

It is onus on people to understand what is right and wrong and if they want to continue doing the it. I know this pandemic there are many things happening and people may be free, or require some money so trying their luck etc, but if everyone start thinking the same way then just imagine what will happen. So, if they are caught then they have to face punishment which would be more than they could even have made some money from it.

no not all are going in same direction because not all loves cock fighting  .

our neighbors love this game and love to breed thier own chickens but me I have no interest to this field ever since I was young , I don't know why  but I am addicted on other kinds of gambling .   This cockfighting isn't all about money but there were people that got addicted to it and they want to test the ability of their own chickens .

Can be still called an addiction specially if you do not trying to avoid to engage even if we are on a pandemic but if not then i would say that you are just really a fan or doing it as a hobby but since it do involves money then it can be considered as gambling but there are people whom do really good on controlling up themselves even how badly they do like to bet up into their cocks.Each person does have their own interest in life
and even myself dont find any entertaining thing about cock fighting and i rather see this as an animal cruelty instead but well this had been part of the tradition on some countries where cock fights
are really that popular.

[Shasha80]

It's stupid if we want to play cock fighting but have to break the rules, because that will add to the problems we have to face.
To my knowledge cock fighting will get a crowded, and it will cause the spread of the corona virus to accelerate. So I don't think
it's worth sacrificing our health to play cock fighting, there are still many ways to distribute our desires if you want to play gambling
without sacrificing our health. Maybe playing online casino is much better.

[AmoreJaz]

It's stupid if we want to play cock fighting but have to break the rules, because that will add to the problems we have to face.
To my knowledge cock fighting will get a crowded, and it will cause the spread of the corona virus to accelerate. So I don't think
it's worth sacrificing our health to play cock fighting, there are still many ways to distribute our desires if you want to play gambling
without sacrificing our health. Maybe playing online casino is much better.

people sometimes are dumb just to follow their impulses and not care for what is going on in our community. so just right, if they will be penalized or put into prison for the time being. need to learn their lesson for ignoring what the government is prescribing them to do.
 our crisis is real so people should be cooperative to end this crisis. otherwise, people will continue to suffer because of others' hard headedness!

[Vintry Dribbler 1975]

Most parts of the world abhor any form of animal fighting, so for your region to flagrantly host and participate in those kinds of animal cruelty games, then it is little wonder they have no regard for other people's lives (much less their own I would imagine)

[Reatim]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

These people must not be allowed to Bail or Fine instead they must be put behind bars for a certain time so they will never spread the
 game again because for sure after being released?
they will continue their stupidity in Gambling.
I have watched some News about Cockfighting happening in any places that unusual to  think there are happening like Cockfight.
There where some in Rooftop of their high houses,some in Cemetery
 and some are inside their compound so police might not find them easily.
Why can't they wait?though i am sure since these gamblers are illegal players no wonder they don't have
 to wait for the normal to happen.

[Ziskinberg]

Stupidity actually does not have a cure. Only stupid people will take such a risk, they forgot that because of them their family might be also at risk of contracting this virus.

Yeah, the very main reason of the prevention is to not getting infected or infect other people, in this kind of gathering of the crowd, one carrier would easily the number of people around him, so it's just right that the penalty is big, but still they are still violating.

They know the risk, they just don't think they will get caught.

In the end, those who were caught lost everything they might have won.

Worst if they don't win anything.

[Janation]

As far as I know, they are illegal if people will not be doing that on a licensed cockpit,......

No, you can't apply that rules in the pandemic, not only cock fighting is not allowed but all sort of gambling as it gathers masses that would be prone to passing the virus among the people. So even if you do in a legal venue but the act itself is prohibited, you are still doing an illegal activity.

I agree but there are those people that do meetups(tupada) to cockfight in some places here.

Tupada is illegal and the fact that we are still in a pandemic means that it will be more of a hefty payment. I don't know what's going on with them since they are afraid of the virus but not afraid to do these meetups(tupadas) with other people that might carry the virus.

[Ucy]

~snip.

Others may find it as an abuse to animals but cockfighting is legal in the Philippines and it's popular in the country since it's also a part of the tradition. What makes it illegal is because gambling is temporary not allowed due to pandemic, and it's part of the protocols here.

And since it's common in our country, organizing cockfighting events doesn't always need to be that big. You can gamble and bet by just gathering with other gamblers in any place available and make a bet. So they probably didn't do any safety measures like monitoring temperature or social distancing.

 I get it now. I'm not really interested in those popular phrase (animal abuse), what should really matter is whether it is right or wrong to get animals to fight themselves. It's not like typical fighting competition involving humans(I don't think many of such fights are good) which the competitors are aware of as entertainment and not serious fight.  In the animal case, the fight is most likely done against their will, they most likely see it as real fight, they most likely won't get properly rewarded for the fight (the human will likely get the reward), etc
By the way, I really don't see the need for such fight. It looks selfish - to satisfy the human evil lust, not for the good of the animals. I would ban it!

[pikkie]

As far as I know, they are illegal if people will not be doing that on a licensed cockpit,......

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I agree but there are those people that do meetups(tupada) to cockfight in some places here.

Tupada is illegal and the fact that we are still in a pandemic means that it will be more of a hefty payment. I don't know what's going on with them since they are afraid of the virus but not afraid to do these meetups(tupadas) with other people that might carry the virus.

maybe having a meeting may still have certain people, meaning that if everyone wants to meet, they must pay attention to the covid protocol properly and as much as possible all of them comply with these regulations so that they can minimize the spread of covid and as much as possible must be in an open room because currently the spread of the virus can already be through the air so still have to be careful.

[plr]

People cannot break their old habits especially in gambling but they need to understand the dangers if they are caught, the government and the police should set up example by putting to prison all offenders, they cannot manage the growing number of infected if they will not put to jail and fine violators, the government should show the people that they are serious in the campaign.

[blockman]

"MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine

Letter M doesn't mean Mandatory but 'Modified'.

But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

These people were not scared of covid19. I thought that this is only happening in the city. The last time I've watched the news many were arrested for mass gathering through field cock fighting and still in other places, they haven't learned the lesson.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

No, it's not worth it but these people don't understand that covid19 pandemic is a serious situation.

[peter0425]

I have reported two gambling activities near my community as other concern citizen had told me about the operations.
I am not a gambling Haters but i don't like the idea of them Still in gambling while Begging help from the government?
these people is full of laziness and just seeking for support and spending in their stupid gambling activities.

[Botnake]

As far as I know, they are illegal if people will not be doing that on a licensed cockpit,......

No, you can't apply that rules in the pandemic, not only cock fighting is not allowed but all sort of gambling as it gathers masses that would be prone to passing the virus among the people. So even if you do in a legal venue but the act itself is prohibited, you are still doing an illegal activity.

I agree but there are those people that do meetups(tupada) to cockfight in some places here.

Tupada is illegal and the fact that we are still in a pandemic means that it will be more of a hefty payment. I don't know what's going on with them since they are afraid of the virus but not afraid to do these meetups(tupadas) with other people that might carry the virus.

They can't resist the temptation, that's the main reason, period.

If a gambler has no discipline, most likely they will just lose, what they are doing is already considered as a gambling addiction as despite of the prohibition, they still violate the law just to gamble, this is an irresponsible move not only putting the people directly sorrounded to you which is your family but the society as well as some people does not even know they are already affected, so they keep roaming around and that's why prohibition on mass gathering like gambling is strictly prohibited. Aside from monetary penalty, I think they should be jailed for months to really send a message to the violators.

[Janation]

I have reported two gambling activities near my community as other concern citizen had told me about the operations.
I am not a gambling Haters but i don't like the idea of them Still in gambling while Begging help from the government?
these people is full of laziness and just seeking for support and spending in their stupid gambling activities.

That takes a lot of courage, to be honest.

I know some people are gambling near our place but I can't actually tell them since most of those people are my cousins. But I disagree that they are just lazy and seeking support through gambling, they are doing that because they are so bored with this quarantine since most of the time they are really betting on cockfights. It is entertainment to some and an addiction to most of them.

[Japinat]

I have reported two gambling activities near my community as other concern citizen had told me about the operations.
I am not a gambling Haters but i don't like the idea of them Still in gambling while Begging help from the government?
these people is full of laziness and just seeking for support and spending in their stupid gambling activities.

That takes a lot of courage, to be honest.

I know some people are gambling near our place but I can't actually tell them since most of those people are my cousins. But I disagree that they are just lazy and seeking support through gambling, they are doing that because they are so bored with this quarantine since most of the time they are really betting on cockfights. It is entertainment to some and an addiction to most of them.

In general they are not really seeking support from gambling, instead, they are just spending money.
What's worse to know is that our government made an effort to give financial support to the people, and yet some of them are just spending it in gambling.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

It is one of the reasons why other people find gambling as a bad habit because of this kind of violators that they will do everything just to continue their gambling hobby. We all know many people have lost their jobs and source of income due to the pandemic of COVID-19, but it doesn't mean they need to violate the health protocols and used their savings to bet on a cock fight. Gambling is not a way to gain money or a source of income because it is only good for entertainment and leisure time.

[peter0425]

I have reported two gambling activities near my community as other concern citizen had told me about the operations.
I am not a gambling Haters but i don't like the idea of them Still in gambling while Begging help from the government?
these people is full of laziness and just seeking for support and spending in their stupid gambling activities.

That takes a lot of courage, to be honest.

I know some people are gambling near our place but I can't actually tell them since most of those people are my cousins. But I disagree that they are just lazy and seeking support through gambling, they are doing that because they are so bored with this quarantine since most of the time they are really betting on cockfights. It is entertainment to some and an addiction to most of them.

In general they are not really seeking support from gambling, instead, they are just spending money.
What's worse to know is that our government made an effort to give financial support to the people, and yet some of them are just spending it in gambling.

I think its the same thing?they are not seeking personally but still they are angry if the financial support don't come their way?meaning they still wanted to receive and of course part of those will come to gambling?and besides maybe not majority but generally yes since the Assistance of government in regards to Financial has been given most of the people.
anyway we have our own views but i respect yours guys so hoping that i will receive the same .

[AicecreaME]

Even Cock Fighting could be online now too! Why are people behaving like there's no pandemic. The procedure is quite easy, there should be a responsible management wherein, only the owner of the Cocks needs to be present, set up a good angle for the cameras and then live broadcast it in any platform they like. But since it is a province, I think the hindrance is the accessibility of the people to search for good platforms and to use it well. Maybe, to solve that issue, they need first to learn how online gambling works.

Most of the people here are still not aware of technology. They may have gadgets but they still don't know how to use it properly, all they know is Facebook (lol). Even if they do know the online sabong, the internet connection here is very poor that is why it is not really recommended. Also, I think that they are more thrilled when they are playing cock fighting actually, because they'll be able to know if their cocks are good or no after all the breeding they've done in a period of time preparing for the fight.