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September 15, 2020, 03:20:22 PM
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Any form of gambling especially like this (physically present) is so dangerous. Yes, I understand how bored we are in our homes because of quarantine but we have to cooperate or else we're going to keep this on forever. Government doesn't have a concrete plan 'till know on how to eradicate this COVID-19, but just waiting for the vaccine to happen.

And if we're still going to be hard headed to violate health safety protocols then our mother country's citizens will suffer even more because of us and the Government.

EDIT: Please don't bash me and says that we don't have any chances to eradicate COVID-19 without the vaccine because we're just a third world country. VIETNAM waves at you.
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September 15, 2020, 03:52:04 PM
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Children in my opinion needs to be nourished in an environment that should be susceptible to learning and gives them a sense that learning and reading and studying are not boring endeavors but rather important things that they will need to do in order to succeed in life. They will pursue more noble things in life if these children will be taken good care by their parents. Gambling is an adult activity and should stay that way. Children really need to prepare their lives in becoming responsible adults.

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September 15, 2020, 04:24:14 PM
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For someone who was born and raised in the Philippines, I am very much familiar with this game featuring these small creatures, spiders. This was merely a game, children would first catch their spiders and would then bring them into a fight with the others.
But for others like me who was not raised in rural areas, spiders are being sold in cities on which most of people gets into the gambling. Yet we cannot make it as an excuse, just because we get used to it. I remember not only spiders but also beetles, people are making fights using insects and they are betting on it.

Somehow this is funny to think that what was once a street game for the children is now being integrated with gambling. But nevertheless, these adults shown in the pictures should’ve known better that protocols must be abide strictly due to this pandemic.
Adult already knows that it is illegal, maybe they are just too bored of living and made this as a form of their entertainment.
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September 15, 2020, 05:58:31 PM
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the spiders sleep while infront of another spider? looks like weaklings. as filipino we're used to these spiders because there are times in a year when its time for crop harvesting, kids are playing these spiders as they crawl out from the pile of crops. there weren't betting involve during those days but its fight to death that spiders wrap the other with its web to consume.  today they have rules already that its a KO-ed when spider dropped 3 time on the pillow. that isn't fun to watch.

For someone who was born and raised in the Philippines, I am very much familiar with this game featuring these small creatures, spiders. This was merely a game, children would first catch their spiders and would then bring them into a fight with the others.
But for others like me who was not raised in rural areas, spiders are being sold in cities on which most of people gets into the gambling. Yet we cannot make it as an excuse, just because we get used to it. I remember not only spiders but also beetles, people are making fights using insects and they are betting on it.

Somehow this is funny to think that what was once a street game for the children is now being integrated with gambling. But nevertheless, these adults shown in the pictures should’ve known better that protocols must be abide strictly due to this pandemic.
Adult already knows that it is illegal, maybe they are just too bored of living and made this as a form of their entertainment.

its pure entertainment really but adults wanna make money out of it much like cockfighting.










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September 15, 2020, 07:23:20 PM
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Children in my opinion needs to be nourished in an environment that should be susceptible to learning and gives them a sense that learning and reading and studying are not boring endeavors but rather important things that they will need to do in order to succeed in life.
But the thing is everyone of us has its own diversion, it is inevitable for some places that kids are doing illegal stuff for food and money coz that's the way they have not chose to do but that's the only way they can have it. Especially in people living in some isolated places, they don't even know that some of their activities is illegal but the government has its consideration towards less civilized people. But for people that is living in the city, there's no excuse of doing such crime.

Gambling is an adult activity and should stay that way. Children really need to prepare their lives in becoming responsible adults.
Indeed. But Imma tell you, it will really depend on the environment of an individual.

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September 16, 2020, 05:08:43 AM
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Lol betting on spiders. I don't understand why people bet on this because isn't it just completely random who wins so it's 50/50? What's the thrill in that?
on my place theres people that participate on this  . thier spiders were conditioned verry well just like a professional boxer before a major fight . they gave thier spiders some vitamins and every morning they put the spiders outside to drink water drops fresh from leaves  .

thats what i remember but i know there are other interesting they they do just to win  . the looks of the spiders can also matter just like when you speculate two boxers  so its not really consider as a game of chance .
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September 16, 2020, 07:56:01 AM
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OP may I know the province where you are residing?
Are we in the same country? I am from cebu. If you know this province then definiely we are living in the same country. Spider betting here is the new trend and almost every municipalities or cities has this kind of gambling. This is like a gateway from getting bored staying at home for few months.

The update, still spider betting is visible and lively everyday. Probably police officers had given up already for now because the routine conduct or monitoring was stop. Maybe the authorities are busy on some things or other security problems within their jurisdiction.
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September 16, 2020, 08:26:38 AM
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Spider betting is popular in the Philippines. I remember when I was in high school during summer my friends and I would spend the whole day hunting for spiders well even some men and teenagers in our street gamble with spiders.  Any social gathering is prohibited and some people are really bored staying at home finding other means to entertain themselves. Even when I go to work, I see people drinking even though social gatherings are prohibited. That is why enforcers are being strict in implementing rules.
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September 16, 2020, 08:42:32 AM
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Lol betting on spiders. I don't understand why people bet on this because isn't it just completely random who wins so it's 50/50? What's the thrill in that? Why don't they just flip a coin or throw coins against a wall? That's what we used to do at school. Apparently it's called pitching pennies:

Living in a third-world country makes you appreciate almost everything and you tend to look/find fun in about anything that you see.

Betting on 'fighting spiders', while they may sound ridiculous, is quite famous especially to the families living below the average income. The only means of entertainment that they have is limited, that is why they find this entertaining. Although in reality it is a 50/50 game and pitching pennies might be more skillfull, you still cannot invalidate that they find joy in such.




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September 16, 2020, 08:45:25 AM
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Spider betting is popular in the Philippines. I remember when I was in high school during summer my friends and I would spend the whole day hunting for spiders well even some men and teenagers in our street gamble with spiders.  Any social gathering is prohibited and some people are really bored staying at home finding other means to entertain themselves. Even when I go to work, I see people drinking even though social gatherings are prohibited. That is why enforcers are being strict in implementing rules.
If some young people play spider betting, I think the kids will follow them too, as I know that they will have a big curiosity to know something. They can invite their friends and play together in one place without any people knows. That can make the kids enjoy their moment playing with the spiders, and they can use the money inside the games. When the kids play that many times, sooner or later, that kid will become addicting, and we never know what will happen to them when they grow up.

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September 16, 2020, 12:25:15 PM
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Spider betting is popular in the Philippines. I remember when I was in high school during summer my friends and I would spend the whole day hunting for spiders well even some men and teenagers in our street gamble with spiders.  Any social gathering is prohibited and some people are really bored staying at home finding other means to entertain themselves. Even when I go to work, I see people drinking even though social gatherings are prohibited. That is why enforcers are being strict in implementing rules.
But the sadly the rules here at our country many people are not following because there is still people who always play gambling in the street to the squarters area and I see them doing that. It is popular games of the teenager the fighting spiders but now a days it's not because of the technology the people are busy to their gadgets. Hope many people will not play gambling until the pandemic will gone and those parents have responsibility to their children to guide to the right path.
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September 16, 2020, 12:51:06 PM
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Lol betting on spiders. I don't understand why people bet on this because isn't it just completely random who wins so it's 50/50? What's the thrill in that? Why don't they just flip a coin or throw coins against a wall? That's what we used to do at school. Apparently it's called pitching pennies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitching_pennies


Actually those experts in Spider can distinguish which insect is good in fighting or not,and also the opponents spider they can analyze who will have advantage or not (This was what i heard while growing with this Game) but in the end?you are right because it is random and even those who says they will win still Their spider dies before the opponent.



i know that game,Pitching coins against the wall to get close to the other coins?we called it Danhgkalan(Hand Span) in which we need to get near the other coins and if you can handspan their coins then its yours or you need to pay if how much is the agreed Betting.









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Children in my opinion needs to be nourished in an environment that should be susceptible to learning and gives them a sense that learning and reading and studying are not boring endeavors but rather important things that they will need to do in order to succeed in life. They will pursue more noble things in life if these children will be taken good care by their parents. Gambling is an adult activity and should stay that way. Children really need to prepare their lives in becoming responsible adults.

I guess this really depends on the parent but this spider betting is something being passed here in our province. The parents that are taking care of their children right now did that in the past, they know what it feels like to be at that position but they never actually got addicted to it, not until they held a rooster and seen a cockfight.

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September 16, 2020, 08:38:17 PM
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Children in my opinion needs to be nourished in an environment that should be susceptible to learning and gives them a sense that learning and reading and studying are not boring endeavors but rather important things that they will need to do in order to succeed in life. They will pursue more noble things in life if these children will be taken good care by their parents. Gambling is an adult activity and should stay that way. Children really need to prepare their lives in becoming responsible adults.

I guess this really depends on the parent but this spider betting is something being passed here in our province. The parents that are taking care of their children right now did that in the past, they know what it feels like to be at that position but they never actually got addicted to it, not until they held a rooster and seen a cockfight.

Its still a learning environment for the kids, it just need guidance. Kids who grow up in such an environment are always the ones going to be the streetsmart. Gambling may not be good for them but kids will always stray from since they have no money to sustain. Its the grown men that is harder to straighten.

If there is just no lockdown, kids playing with spiders are going to help them to have social life outside the internet. It helps them get out of their computer chair.


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September 16, 2020, 08:54:52 PM
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Seems like this kind of betting takes place in the country of Philippines for it is usual for young kinds to involve in this of game most specially when you are really at that young age. But in our time, we just used spider fighting as a habitual game and not for a sort of betting because on our past time, no money is involved when we used to play such kind of game. At the present time, young minds are having that understanding how important money really is that they tend to make usual child games into betting games for the sake of obtaining money.

At time of pandemic, spider betting is not just the usual betting game that have been raided because there are also recent news and cases that adults are still holding cock fighting betting games which is also another illegal activity since it is against the released health protocol not to hold any mass gathering to prevent the further spread of the virus. It just so happen that because of boredom and being very hard headed, betting games like spider fight and cock fight are still taking in place so it is just right for the police to raid those places where these activities are taking in action so that people will realize how serious the pandemic we are facing and even kids must stay at home for they are vulnerable on getting infected. Also, kids must not be learning such kind of doing betting games at an early age for they would tend to be seeking such kind of activities when they are growing up. Proper parental guidance is really a must have most specially kids are intended to stay at home at times like this.
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September 17, 2020, 08:06:37 AM
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What exactly is the authority trying to prevent in the country?  Crowded places due to the health problem, animal fighting, gambling, betting on animals?
I think the police is doing the right thing of it is trying to stop or prevent all of the above.  People should avoid gathering in crowded place without following the good safety measures. They should also not allow people to encourage animals to fight nor bet on fighting animals. In regards to gambling, it's obviously not a good thing to gamble in anything atall especially for selfish reasons. We must be good/profitable at betting before committing more money/time in it.
  A bettor must not gamble. Bet with small amount of money or what you can afford to lose till perhaps you become good at the games/competitions. Bet only on good and safe games (no betting on animals fights or other violent games). Be a good and responsible bettor.

Spider betting is not really a problem here in my country since it's been popular for a long time. The problem is social gathering amidst the pandemic and the kids are outside which is not allowed I think, that's why the authorities are constantly monitoring op's place. Although I don't think that the authorities are concern about gambling at a young age since it's just a small betting made for fun, I still think it's not a good practice for minors because they might adapt it when they grow up.





Well, "it's not a problem" does not mean it's a good thing to encourage animals, insects or humans to fight and then bet on the fights.
They should be concerned because it's not a good idea to have people enjoy watching animals fight and perhaps kill themselves.
 It's also not good for both kids and adults to gamble. They should only bet responsibily, and only on good games/competitions.
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Spider betting is just a normal game and sometimes it's called a kid's game because there are many kids in the province playing that game. Betting on spider game makes the game thrill, similar to cockfighting and I know that it's still illegal because they're just kids. But in this case, social distancing is the main problem, not the spider betting because we aren't allowed to have a social gathering.

Also, it's true that the police raided a bunch of kids just because they're having spider bettings?

Well, "it's not a problem" does not mean it's a good thing to encourage animals, insects or humans to fight and then bet on the fights.
They should be concerned because it's not a good idea to have people enjoy watching animals fight and perhaps kill themselves.
 It's also not good for both kids and adults to gamble. They should only bet responsibily, and only on good games/competitions.
We should be aware that we have different cultures and norms.
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September 18, 2020, 05:28:59 PM
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Even when I was a kid I really wanted to play spider where I was happy when I won but money does not involve it. So children learn to bet money on the spider because they see it in adults so they imitate it. It is difficult to prevent this, especially in this pandemic because many young people today do not go to school, so it is better that we guide them about it.


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What can you say about this? Are we really that hard headed or just love spider betting?

They are just addicted to gambling so they can think of a way to gamble and it is normal that it happens even in other things.
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Even when I was a kid I really wanted to play spider where I was happy when I won but money does not involve it. So children learn to bet money on the spider because they see it in adults so they imitate it. It is difficult to prevent this, especially in this pandemic because many young people today do not go to school, so it is better that we guide them about it.


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What can you say about this? Are we really that hard headed or just love spider betting?

They are just addicted to gambling so they can think of a way to gamble and it is normal that it happens even in other things.
How long does a spider live?
Are there some way to guess if a spider will be strong or not?
How much does cost a good fighting spider generally?

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September 18, 2020, 09:16:42 PM
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Are there some way to guess if a spider will be strong or not?
How much does cost a good fighting spider generally?
It will depend on what type of spider it is usually spider tigers or just those small tiger that can fit in matchbox, in these season spiders we're too many now in my country that kids tends to take care them and use it in betting, commonly its only cost less than a dollar or less depending who plays it. Before when I was a kid the only betting rules is who ever win will buy snacks or will just follow some winner orders.

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