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[Coin_trader]

Normally, tokens will prosper while the casino is growing but it’s different on Betfury since they are just using the token liquidity for marketing purposes such as rakebacks and partnerships while the token burn using the casino profit to purchased on the open market is not available which is supposedly the idea to boost the price.

Yeah!  If the casino increases and the number of players begins to grow significantly, then of course this should also affect the rate of the token of this casino.  It is clear that it should rise in price simply because it becomes more in demand.  However, there is probably not such a significant increase in the numb er of casino players and we are not seeing the development of tokenomics.  I’ll make an assumption: the devs simply consider the existing functionality of the token to be sufficient for now and have practically frozen further developments on its tokenomics.  This is obviously one of the possible solutions in the current general crypto market.  And this decision is probably not such a bad one.  It seems that the devs considered this decision optimal for the casino and adhere to it. 

Barely living is not good at all in my opinion since there’s a lot of investment opportunities out there which BFG token holder wasting buy holding this token hoping for the unknown to happened just to boost the price.

I already mention that a utility token usually pumped when the product is already prospering. Betfury casino already have a lot of players with huge tournaments and promotions. I’m not sure what to look forward anymore aside for big exchange listing to boost the price in the future since it behaves different in the long run because the supply keeps increasing while the liquidity on LP is not increasing. I’m not sure how long will this price will hold up though without any promising future to look forward on the BFG tokens.

[Easteregg69]

Plus. You get free bitcoin if you have a stake on.

Which I have. Post Bitzler.

[TopTort777]

Again you are talking about BFG token Like there is nothing else to post here? Why would not you look on BetFury from non-BFG-token point of view?

[arwin100]

Again you are talking about BFG token Like there is nothing else to post here? Why would not you look on BetFury from non-BFG-token point of view?

Guess that is the sentiment of frustrated people towards their holding since they are really disappointed for the performance of BFG token so let them have freedom to express their feelings towards this token since this is valid sentiments and they are posting this on BFG thread. This discussion will subside once they see some growth and there's also exciting events held on their casino so lets be open for other discussion and try to understand people talking about that since its not really stressful especially if those people still have huge BFG balances on their wallet.

If BFG team will just post about some updates or answer questions here maybe we can see less people talking about the token but rather they talk about their experience about on their casino.

[TopTort777]

Ok, ok, sure, let them talk. But maybe they should also discuss something else besides "how the the price is and why team isnt doing anything to get into long promised top100 cmc"? As these talks here seems to have no effect at all. If they are all investors, holders of huge amount of tokens, why dont they make a petition? Find owners and ask them on public when they gonna fulfil promises? Instead of adding 5-15 new pages of discussion same thing here?

What is the main issue here? Why the price was almost 4 cents, and now it is 2 cents. Just 2 cents, on a market that cant switch to bull from bear. On the market where every single altcoin lost 50-90% from ATH. Wonder how everyone gonna react when BFG updates ATH and finally reaches top100.

[Eternad]

Ok, ok, sure, let them talk. But maybe they should also discuss something else besides "how the the price is and why team isnt doing anything to get into long promised top100 cmc"? As these talks here seems to have no effect at all. If they are all investors, holders of huge amount of tokens, why dont they make a petition? Find owners and ask them on public when they gonna fulfil promises? Instead of adding 5-15 new pages of discussion same thing here?

What is the main issue here? Why the price was almost 4 cents, and now it is 2 cents. Just 2 cents, on a market that cant switch to bull from bear. On the market where every single altcoin lost 50-90% from ATH. Wonder how everyone gonna react when BFG updates ATH and finally reaches top100.

Yet you open again another price discussion topic with this post. The only none price discussion on this post of yours is the opening statement that you encourage to discuss other topic other than price. 

Seriously, Your suggestion such as petition is nonsense since BFG token is a utility not a security token that only means the teams has no legal obligation to distribute profit to all token holders. The only thing investors can do about the price is to express their feelings on the social media channel which the team often ignore.

[avp2306]

Ok, ok, sure, let them talk. But maybe they should also discuss something else besides "how the the price is and why team isnt doing anything to get into long promised top100 cmc"? As these talks here seems to have no effect at all. If they are all investors, holders of huge amount of tokens, why dont they make a petition? Find owners and ask them on public when they gonna fulfil promises? Instead of adding 5-15 new pages of discussion same thing here?

What is the main issue here? Why the price was almost 4 cents, and now it is 2 cents. Just 2 cents, on a market that cant switch to bull from bear. On the market where every single altcoin lost 50-90% from ATH. Wonder how everyone gonna react when BFG updates ATH and finally reaches top100.

Yet you open again another price discussion topic with this post. The only none price discussion on this post of yours is the opening statement that you encourage to discuss other topic other than price. 

Seriously, Your suggestion such as petition is nonsense since BFG token is a utility not a security token that only means the teams has no legal obligation to distribute profit to all token holders. The only thing investors can do about the price is to express their feelings on the social media channel which the team often ignore.

This is why we cannot say to anyone to just wait for the updates regarding on the development of their token then continue to talk about all casino activities in this thread since we can't stop investor to voice out their frustration towards the performance of their token. Maybe the case will be different if the team answers those question and satisfy their community about their future plans about their token but nothing like that happen and as Eternad says they are been ignored. So we can expect more frustrated people to come here since if we look at the current condition of this token https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/betfury/ we can really see that they are really in bad form.

 Volume goes more lower down and with that it show that many investors lose their interest for this token and it will be bad for other still holding it since this cannot give anything good to the token they hold and might it will take long time before it recovers.

[LUCKMCFLY]

But come to think of this, is development and improvement of the Betfury site not supposed to have automatically brought some positive vibes around BFG token?, owning to the fact that the casino owns the token.
For I am yet to come across any where the Betfury team announced that BFG token have become a project separate from Betfury site, if at all there was such an announcement. How can they have more than 26 people working to improve the betting site , where as no body is dedicated to see to the progress of the token which they themselves developed?.

If they have no interest in the BFG token anymore, then they should make an announcement about this and take it off the market.

You just said what I wanted to say when I read the comment of dwyane36. The casino (company) and the Token which working in one place cannot be separated. Therefore if the 26 developers are working on the site the they most also work on the Token to improve on the two things. Betfury Company likes they token and they using the token in the site very well so if the hire someone to come and develop and improve on the site then definitely they would touch the token to be a good position. They might list it in some of the major CEX for more recognition.

Yes, and even then they would be doing the right thing in the wrong opportunity, because obviously they have been successful with the token, people buy the BFG token and can generate a lot of money, but it is as you say if they do not take advantage of the opportunity to get the juice of this token, who else is going to get it? They have a good project, they have a good casino, but they have gotten stuck in things that they don't understand, I don't know what problems they have, I don't know why in bitcointalk they have the ability to ignore users when they have a tremendous gold mine in their hands, because those toekns have a lot of durability if they work on them from now on, if they develop more, they add better features, because they could make a difference, I don't know why things when they come from the casinos, and from the market, they don't get along well, because it's money on both sides, because a little more liquid money on the token side, so these things are what they don't assimilate, I don't know if those in charge of the token want this to go ahead, or if swol they want to be happy with the casino, but they are wasting the opportunity of their lives, this is something that you cannot say no to, I don't understand why sometimes there are people or work teams that have everything to succeed and they run away from them, So they are so chaotic that I will never understand them.

They started off hard, if so, why don't they do it again? Why don't they improve and carry out a radical campaign of social networks, signature campaigns and everything like they did in the beginning, that does help raise the price , it helps a lot if they create a good Community so that they buy the toekns, and when bitcoin achieves a good bullish rally, the token may be so well located in the market that it will also rise , because Investors put money there as a refuge, then if things are like this, why are they going to throw everything away? Rail? It's incredible , but there are people who at least Wait for an Opportunity and here they waste it.

[Agbe]

But come to think of this, is development and improvement of the Betfury site not supposed to have automatically brought some positive vibes around BFG token?, owning to the fact that the casino owns the token.
For I am yet to come across any where the Betfury team announced that BFG token have become a project separate from Betfury site, if at all there was such an announcement. How can they have more than 26 people working to improve the betting site , where as no body is dedicated to see to the progress of the token which they themselves developed?.

If they have no interest in the BFG token anymore, then they should make an announcement about this and take it off the market.

You just said what I wanted to say when I read the comment of dwyane36. The casino (company) and the Token which working in one place cannot be separated. Therefore if the 26 developers are working on the site the they most also work on the Token to improve on the two things. Betfury Company likes they token and they using the token in the site very well so if the hire someone to come and develop and improve on the site then definitely they would touch the token to be a good position. They might list it in some of the major CEX for more recognition.

They started off hard, if so, why don't they do it again? Why don't they improve and carry out a radical campaign of social networks, signature campaigns and everything like they did in the beginning, that does help raise the price , it helps a lot if they create a good Community so that they buy the toekns, and when bitcoin achieves a good bullish rally, the token may be so well located in the market that it will also rise , because Investors put money there as a refuge, then if things are like this, why are they going to throw everything away? Rail? It's incredible , but there are people who at least Wait for an Opportunity and here they waste it.

Really they started well at the initial time of the casino but they stopped all the advertisement channels and depends on their ANN thread. Well I don't how often people visit this casino and the traffic level of the site is u known to me since I am not. Part of them. Someone was telling me why they are afraid to develop the BFG token and list it on the other companies CEX for more development is because people will sell all their tokens on their possession and abandoned the token for another so they are afraid of that so to keep the token running is to stuck it in the casino and allowing people to use it in within.

[FanEagle]

If they can create some good developments to their token for sure there's huge hype will also come to their casino since give confidence to the people who's holding it and playing on their casino. Also maybe for that they can get new people to participate on any future events that they launch especially on acquiring their tokens. But seems all speculation regarding to possible good things will just remain as a speculation since as of now no one can tell on when are this updates will came since as of the moment no representative of BFG has a clear statement regarding current status of their BFG token.

To many discussion drop by several people so they should clarify and step up unto this since if they remain silent towards peoples frustrations I guess this will also lead other to believe that they are just sleeping and doesn't care about its community that holding their created token. There presence is important since it can make people believe that they are still working on the background and they are not neglecting on their duty to make BFG token more better.

Is it that way or the other way around. The real question that should be asked here, should they promote the token so much that it brings in people to the casino, or should they promote the casino so much that it makes people buy the token? I believe that it is more about the casino, if they promote the casino as much as possible then they are going to end up with something decent without a doubt and will end up with a good return for sure.

I think it should be noted that we are going to end up with something that will benefit them one way or another, and could be done in a way that would benefit them a lot. I know that it is not going to be all that easy, but we could definitely end up seeing the casino helping the token out.

[babygun]

If they can create some good developments to their token for sure there's huge hype will also come to their casino since give confidence to the people who's holding it and playing on their casino. Also maybe for that they can get new people to participate on any future events that they launch especially on acquiring their tokens. But seems all speculation regarding to possible good things will just remain as a speculation since as of now no one can tell on when are this updates will came since as of the moment no representative of BFG has a clear statement regarding current status of their BFG token.

To many discussion drop by several people so they should clarify and step up unto this since if they remain silent towards peoples frustrations I guess this will also lead other to believe that they are just sleeping and doesn't care about its community that holding their created token. There presence is important since it can make people believe that they are still working on the background and they are not neglecting on their duty to make BFG token more better.

Is it that way or the other way around. The real question that should be asked here, should they promote the token so much that it brings in people to the casino, or should they promote the casino so much that it makes people buy the token? I believe that it is more about the casino, if they promote the casino as much as possible then they are going to end up with something decent without a doubt and will end up with a good return for sure.

I think it should be noted that we are going to end up with something that will benefit them one way or another, and could be done in a way that would benefit them a lot. I know that it is not going to be all that easy, but we could definitely end up seeing the casino helping the token out.

The token, with the daily dividends that it gives, is one of the main selling points of the sites. And before, people would always go back just to mine some more tokens so the dividend increased. As the mining stopped, they need to focus more on the casino itself to keep improving it and adding new features.

[wiss19]

Ok, ok, sure, let them talk. But maybe they should also discuss something else besides "how the the price is and why team isnt doing anything to get into long promised top100 cmc"? As these talks here seems to have no effect at all. If they are all investors, holders of huge amount of tokens, why dont they make a petition? Find owners and ask them on public when they gonna fulfil promises? Instead of adding 5-15 new pages of discussion same thing here?

What is the main issue here? Why the price was almost 4 cents, and now it is 2 cents. Just 2 cents, on a market that cant switch to bull from bear. On the market where every single altcoin lost 50-90% from ATH. Wonder how everyone gonna react when BFG updates ATH and finally reaches top100.

I believe that it is a huge part of the casino since it started and that is why talking about is justified. Plus, if there was a BFG token topic at the altcoin part of this forum (which as far as I am aware, there are none) that would mean that the token talks could happen there and casino talks could happen here, but since there are none, token talks happen here as well.

That's not really a bad idea to be fair, I think it should be very important to notice because it leaves people no other choice but to talk about it here and should be something that we could enjoy. I get that it may not be all that simple but as long as we could do it, we should be able to do it properly and not really end up with anything that is shocking or different in the end.

[Wapfika]

The token, with the daily dividends that it gives, is one of the main selling points of the sites. And before, people would always go back just to mine some more tokens so the dividend increased. As the mining stopped, they need to focus more on the casino itself to keep improving it and adding new features.

Yep but this the common feature already of almost every tokens due to the existence of DeFi which even Betfury have too on different DEX aside from their staking feature built-in in the casino. Betfury is offering the most common utility for tokens that is not even related to gambling. Only the rakeback in the casino that paid in BFG tokens is the only gambling related utility but not in complete advantage for all token holders.

I like the FUN token utility with their token holders since they can get free spin which they can get rewards that is exclusive for token holders. Betfury wheel sucks btw.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

The token, with the daily dividends that it gives, is one of the main selling points of the sites. And before, people would always go back just to mine some more tokens so the dividend increased. As the mining stopped, they need to focus more on the casino itself to keep improving it and adding new features.

Yep but this the common feature already of almost every tokens due to the existence of DeFi which even Betfury have too on different DEX aside from their staking feature built-in in the casino. Betfury is offering the most common utility for tokens that is not even related to gambling. Only the rakeback in the casino that paid in BFG tokens is the only gambling related utility but not in complete advantage for all token holders.

I like the FUN token utility with their token holders since they can get free spin which they can get rewards that is exclusive for token holders. Betfury wheel sucks btw.

Well, one thing that I think is common with casino tokens is that they lack ideas for utility, most especially, if you try to look for utility that will relate to gambling, such ideas is very limited if at all there is any.
Talking about fun token, to consider the free spins they give to holders as a utility is actually wrong if you ask me, and this is due to the fact that they can still give their users free spins even without the holding any token if they want, for example, the ability they offer their users to buy spins with reward points, which is also earned for free through the faucet system.

Personally, I see every casino token as a speculative token, not utility tokens because when it comes to utility, i do not see anything unique about the utility of casino tokens.

[AmoreJaz]

The token, with the daily dividends that it gives, is one of the main selling points of the sites. And before, people would always go back just to mine some more tokens so the dividend increased. As the mining stopped, they need to focus more on the casino itself to keep improving it and adding new features.

Yep but this the common feature already of almost every tokens due to the existence of DeFi which even Betfury have too on different DEX aside from their staking feature built-in in the casino. Betfury is offering the most common utility for tokens that is not even related to gambling. Only the rakeback in the casino that paid in BFG tokens is the only gambling related utility but not in complete advantage for all token holders.

I like the FUN token utility with their token holders since they can get free spin which they can get rewards that is exclusive for token holders. Betfury wheel sucks btw.

Well, one thing that I think is common with casino tokens is that they lack ideas for utility, most especially, if you try to look for utility that will relate to gambling, such ideas is very limited if at all there is any.
Talking about fun token, to consider the free spins they give to holders as a utility is actually wrong if you ask me, and this is due to the fact that they can still give their users free spins even without the holding any token if they want, for example, the ability they offer their users to buy spins with reward points, which is also earned for free through the faucet system.

Personally, I see every casino token as a speculative token, not utility tokens because when it comes to utility, i do not see anything unique about the utility of casino tokens.

this is where they should think about, because most casino tokens are not really gaining much attention these days. if they can find other usages for their token, maybe, it will improve its price in the market. they are just proving that it was smart selling the tokens at the early stage of their launch. though some are still staking, yet, if they can't see progress, for sure, they will sell even at a loss, just maybe to break even or at least get something out of it.

[Fredomago]

The token, with the daily dividends that it gives, is one of the main selling points of the sites. And before, people would always go back just to mine some more tokens so the dividend increased. As the mining stopped, they need to focus more on the casino itself to keep improving it and adding new features.

Yep but this the common feature already of almost every tokens due to the existence of DeFi which even Betfury have too on different DEX aside from their staking feature built-in in the casino. Betfury is offering the most common utility for tokens that is not even related to gambling. Only the rakeback in the casino that paid in BFG tokens is the only gambling related utility but not in complete advantage for all token holders.

I like the FUN token utility with their token holders since they can get free spin which they can get rewards that is exclusive for token holders. Betfury wheel sucks btw.

Well, one thing that I think is common with casino tokens is that they lack ideas for utility, most especially, if you try to look for utility that will relate to gambling, such ideas is very limited if at all there is any.
Talking about fun token, to consider the free spins they give to holders as a utility is actually wrong if you ask me, and this is due to the fact that they can still give their users free spins even without the holding any token if they want, for example, the ability they offer their users to buy spins with reward points, which is also earned for free through the faucet system.

Personally, I see every casino token as a speculative token, not utility tokens because when it comes to utility, i do not see anything unique about the utility of casino tokens.

this is where they should think about, because most casino tokens are not really gaining much attention these days. if they can find other usages for their token, maybe, it will improve its price in the market. they are just proving that it was smart selling the tokens at the early stage of their launch. though some are still staking, yet, if they can't see progress, for sure, they will sell even at a loss, just maybe to break even or at least get something out of it.

Not going to be a surprising action if there's nothing to expect, even there are still token holders who continue to stake their tokens and waiting for some good run in terms of value of the coin, sooner or later if they don't feel that the team will update something that may create a good run then the next thing to do is to sell it out and find another asset to invest in.

A common reaction from traders' side, always trying to find an edge with the asset that they are supporting for now, staking and hoping, is what keeps holders to keep their asset on hold.

[Wiwo]

Again you are talking about BFG token Like there is nothing else to post here? Why would not you look on BetFury from non-BFG-token point of view?

Guess that is the sentiment of frustrated people towards their holding since they are really disappointed for the performance of BFG token so let them have freedom to express their feelings towards this token since this is valid sentiments and they are posting this on BFG thread. This discussion will subside once they see some growth and there's also exciting events held on their casino so lets be open for other discussion and try to understand people talking about that since its not really stressful especially if those people still have huge BFG balances on their wallet.

If BFG team will just post about some updates or answer questions here maybe we can see less people talking about the token but rather they talk about their experience at their casino.

I won't blame any investor for venting their frustration on the outcome of the BFG tokens and for sure since this isn't the project's official group, this place becomes the right place for them to at least try to seek some answers,  although there have been several calls on the team to at least make some announcement or an update on the progress and plans of the token in the coming months ahead.

It's already a long ride to this point,  and if you have been following up with what is happening in this thread and other social media,  you already know or are aware of the worst state of things for most casino tokens after they dropped significantly in their price.

[o48o]

I won't blame any investor for venting their frustration on the outcome of the BFG tokens and for sure since this isn't the project's official group, this place becomes the right place for them to at least try to seek some answers,  although there have been several calls on the team to at least make some announcement or an update on the progress and plans of the token in the coming months ahead.

It's already a long ride to this point,  and if you have been following up with what is happening in this thread and other social media,  you already know or are aware of the worst state of things for most casino tokens after they dropped significantly in their price.

And there's the fact that you get muted in the telegram group for voicing concerns, even when you are being polite, so this is the only place to speak up. And i wasn't even disappointed back then. I was just asking questions. I didn't even once complained about the price. I asked about what game theory they had for the tokenomics and how can they market in a way that others have been sued for.

I guess we have our answer now... By rejecting all the regions that can sue them.

[Slow death]

Again you are talking about BFG token Like there is nothing else to post here? Why would not you look on BetFury from non-BFG-token point of view?

in my opinion since this token is part of the casino then it makes more sense for people to talk about it in this thread, now about why other subjects are not talked about in this thread, the likely reason could be because the casino team does not come to this thread give news about what future people who bought this token can expect, and the team of that token or casino are silent, so this creates agitation in people and the only things they will talk about here will be about the token, I even when I have some time to post in this thread I have repeated saying that I don't understand why this casino created this token when they had no intention of giving information about this token

Why did they create a token when they knew they wouldn't list it on the big exchanges? It seems to me that their intention was to profit from this token only and they had no intention that the token would be something that would have any long-term advantage for the holders, as they did not make any promise of listing on major exchanges like Binance so They cannot be accused of being liars, so they profited from the naivety of people who bought this token thinking it would be profitable in the long term. token casinos most will be destined for failure. There are many altcoins and bitcoin that can be used for deposits and playing at the casino, it makes no sense for a casino to create its own token

[LUCKMCFLY]

But come to think of this, is development and improvement of the Betfury site not supposed to have automatically brought some positive vibes around BFG token?, owning to the fact that the casino owns the token.
For I am yet to come across any where the Betfury team announced that BFG token have become a project separate from Betfury site, if at all there was such an announcement. How can they have more than 26 people working to improve the betting site , where as no body is dedicated to see to the progress of the token which they themselves developed?.

If they have no interest in the BFG token anymore, then they should make an announcement about this and take it off the market.

You just said what I wanted to say when I read the comment of dwyane36. The casino (company) and the Token which working in one place cannot be separated. Therefore if the 26 developers are working on the site the they most also work on the Token to improve on the two things. Betfury Company likes they token and they using the token in the site very well so if the hire someone to come and develop and improve on the site then definitely they would touch the token to be a good position. They might list it in some of the major CEX for more recognition.

They started off hard, if so, why don't they do it again? Why don't they improve and carry out a radical campaign of social networks, signature campaigns and everything like they did in the beginning, that does help raise the price , it helps a lot if they create a good Community so that they buy the toekns, and when bitcoin achieves a good bullish rally, the token may be so well located in the market that it will also rise , because Investors put money there as a refuge, then if things are like this, why are they going to throw everything away? Rail? It's incredible , but there are people who at least Wait for an Opportunity and here they waste it.

Really they started well at the initial time of the casino but they stopped all the advertisement channels and depends on their ANN thread. Well I don't how often people visit this casino and the traffic level of the site is u known to me since I am not. Part of them. Someone was telling me why they are afraid to develop the BFG token and list it on the other companies CEX for more development is because people will sell all their tokens on their possession and abandoned the token for another so they are afraid of that so to keep the token running is to stuck it in the casino and allowing people to use it in within.

But that doesn't make much sense , the Fact that they want to continue keeping the Token in a decentralized exchange, because currently it is almost as if not well regarded, it is known that despite all the regulations that have been and will be , people prefer centralized exchanges because we know that there at any time the most Famous coins go up in price , in fact there was a lot of talk about Biannace and other exchanges that are very good at the moment, at one point I proposed that Kucoin, because Basically they did not ask for KYC, now they do Ask for KYC , but even so the volume handled in Kucooin is quite Respectable and can make a Difference in things at any Given moment, a thing like this, the team does not know what their future will be if they will pass it, but I have seen that they are letting that gold mine, all you have to do is look at it, how many designers don't want to be in Betfury's position to take Advantage of those Tokens? How much would I like to be able to be next to someone who has a Project like this to Start doing Contests , bonuses , much Stronger Marketing than what they did in the Beginning ? How many don't like that? Is that sometimes the thing is, when it comes to marketing Directors, they allow themselves to be led by bad decisions, just imagine how much the token would be if they were Making a token with enough Advertising? with great marketing?

These are the things I don't Understand , a thread Ann that is of vital Importance for big players , for big Investors, don't take it into consideration, this is just what I'm talking About, if there is any misunderstanding with a Forum user, or At the Same time, they must fix it, Because they are Basically saying No to money , they Imagine that they will Run a big campaign now, and that bitcoin is at $28k, after bitcoin rises to more than $100k , they Imagine the price of token ? How much would it Cost if he had a Great capacity to be able to Climb, and Everything?