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[Fivestar4everMVP]

I won't blame any investor for venting their frustration on the outcome of the BFG tokens and for sure since this isn't the project's official group, this place becomes the right place for them to at least try to seek some answers,  although there have been several calls on the team to at least make some announcement or an update on the progress and plans of the token in the coming months ahead.

It's already a long ride to this point,  and if you have been following up with what is happening in this thread and other social media,  you already know or are aware of the worst state of things for most casino tokens after they dropped significantly in their price.

And there's the fact that you get muted in the telegram group for voicing concerns, even when you are being polite, so this is the only place to speak up. And i wasn't even disappointed back then. I was just asking questions. I didn't even once complained about the price. I asked about what game theory they had for the tokenomics and how can they market in a way that others have been sued for.

I guess we have our answer now... By rejecting all the regions that can sue them.

Exactly the one reason why I seriously hate interacting with projects like this on telegram, that shit of an app is so highly censored that I personally have come to believe that there is nothing like free speech over there, and investor can't air his or her views in peace, you either get limited or banned by the admins or get your comments reported by other users, which will eventually lead to restrictions from telegram themselves.

So yeah, as long as this forum exists, and Betfury has a token which a lot of persons did invest in, those persons must talk, or complain about things they don't believe to be right, and doing this on telegram like you said could be a wasted effort, so here is the best place free enough for anyone to air their views, or vent out their frustrations.

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[babygun]

The token, with the daily dividends that it gives, is one of the main selling points of the sites. And before, people would always go back just to mine some more tokens so the dividend increased. As the mining stopped, they need to focus more on the casino itself to keep improving it and adding new features.

Yep but this the common feature already of almost every tokens due to the existence of DeFi which even Betfury have too on different DEX aside from their staking feature built-in in the casino. Betfury is offering the most common utility for tokens that is not even related to gambling. Only the rakeback in the casino that paid in BFG tokens is the only gambling related utility but not in complete advantage for all token holders.

I like the FUN token utility with their token holders since they can get free spin which they can get rewards that is exclusive for token holders. Betfury wheel sucks btw.

That is also correct, but before Betfury was one of the only casinos where you could mine the tokens to receive some dividend. For the people that bought the tokens, I agree that the price evolution has been lackluster and that they will need to come up with someone to change that.
Their wheel is indeed mediocre, but most free wheels on casinos are not really interesting (except for the WOF spins at freebitco.in).

[dwyane36]

That is also correct, but before Betfury was one of the only casinos where you could mine the tokens to receive some dividend. For the people that bought the tokens, I agree that the price evolution has been lackluster and that they will need to come up with someone to change that.
Their wheel is indeed mediocre, but most free wheels on casinos are not really interesting (except for the WOF spins at freebitco.in).

What do you expect from free wheels? All casinos, including Betfury, create such wheels primarily to attract new audiences. I think the Betfury wheel is probably good in terms of attraction as it allows new users to get funfury and then win real cryptocurrency in a battle. However, I agree that this wheel is mediocre and may not be interesting for older users.
By the way, I will draw your attention to the fact that this year one of the big prizes of the wheel (1 bnb) was won only once. This means that either users started to spin the wheel less often, or Betfury has significantly reduced the chances of winning big prizes.

[Beparanf]

That is also correct, but before Betfury was one of the only casinos where you could mine the tokens to receive some dividend. For the people that bought the tokens, I agree that the price evolution has been lackluster and that they will need to come up with someone to change that.
Their wheel is indeed mediocre, but most free wheels on casinos are not really interesting (except for the WOF spins at freebitco.in).

What do you expect from free wheels? All casinos, including Betfury, create such wheels primarily to attract new audiences. I think the Betfury wheel is probably good in terms of attraction as it allows new users to get funfury and then win real cryptocurrency in a battle. However, I agree that this wheel is mediocre and may not be interesting for older users.
By the way, I will draw your attention to the fact that this year one of the big prizes of the wheel (1 bnb) was won only once. This means that either users started to spin the wheel less often, or Betfury has significantly reduced the chances of winning big prizes.

Worst if the winner of the highest prize this year comes from an insider or fake player. 
Wheels is the worst promotion of a casino since the potential highest prize is too good to be true and nearly impossible to claim. A lottery is much better than a lousy wheel that gives peanuts every spin.

BFG token price is already stable. It’s good to accumulate the token now for the sake of staking because it gives decent return on the casino staking. Where do you stake your BFG? Planning to purchase now that crypto is starting to make a move.

[babygun]

That is also correct, but before Betfury was one of the only casinos where you could mine the tokens to receive some dividend. For the people that bought the tokens, I agree that the price evolution has been lackluster and that they will need to come up with someone to change that.
Their wheel is indeed mediocre, but most free wheels on casinos are not really interesting (except for the WOF spins at freebitco.in).

What do you expect from free wheels? All casinos, including Betfury, create such wheels primarily to attract new audiences. I think the Betfury wheel is probably good in terms of attraction as it allows new users to get funfury and then win real cryptocurrency in a battle. However, I agree that this wheel is mediocre and may not be interesting for older users.
By the way, I will draw your attention to the fact that this year one of the big prizes of the wheel (1 bnb) was won only once. This means that either users started to spin the wheel less often, or Betfury has significantly reduced the chances of winning big prizes.

Probably the latter but we don’t really know. But as you say, it is a good tool and marketing trick to have a wheel to attract new users as there is a very very minimal chance of winning something big. However, I like their Funfury contest, already managed to end in top 100 for 4-5 times.

[iv4n]

Their wheel is indeed mediocre, but most free wheels on casinos are not really interesting (except for the WOF spins at freebitco.in).

Wheels can give nice if we wager enough... I am not sure, but I feel I get better prizes when I have "nice wagering stats", but it's not like that every time. I guess it would be interesting to know if anyone ever hit the biggest prize on the BetFury wheel or any other casino wheel. Did anyone hit it, and how many times... but somehow I doubt we will ever find out.

[Coin_trader]

Their wheel is indeed mediocre, but most free wheels on casinos are not really interesting (except for the WOF spins at freebitco.in).

Wheels can give nice if we wager enough... I am not sure, but I feel I get better prizes when I have "nice wagering stats", but it's not like that every time. I guess it would be interesting to know if anyone ever hit the biggest prize on the BetFury wheel or any other casino wheel. Did anyone hit it, and how many times... but somehow I doubt we will ever find out.

I somehow agree to this suggestion of yours. Not only on Betfury Wheels but all casino that offer free spin on wheel in daily basis. In my observation, Wheels gives me different reward than the common lowest reward whenever I deposit huge amount. I always spin after I deposit so I'm not sure what will happened if I wager.

I believe the result on the wheels somehow consider some factor to trigger different rewards because it's too frequent to happened to me to be considered as mere coincidence only.

[piebeyb]

Their wheel is indeed mediocre, but most free wheels on casinos are not really interesting (except for the WOF spins at freebitco.in).

Yes, I've never even gotten a good prize from spinning the Betfury wheel except at freebitcoin WOF, but because Betfury isn't really a site that gives crypto coins for free like freebitcoin and is clearly very different when comparing the two, so it's possible for us to rarely find one that gets big prizes from spinning their wheels and it's true that it looks ordinary and doesn't look interesting so I very rarely touch it when I gamble at Betfury.

It's possible that Betfury is just making it another way to attract users to continue gambling so that people don't leave when they lose, they can still get it from spinning the wheel, even though it's free, it might just be a waste of time. The only way to earn money there is to gamble and even then if you're lucky, personally I also prefer to spin the WOF wheel.  

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Their wheel is indeed mediocre, but most free wheels on casinos are not really interesting (except for the WOF spins at freebitco.in).

Wheels can give nice if we wager enough... I am not sure, but I feel I get better prizes when I have "nice wagering stats", but it's not like that every time. I guess it would be interesting to know if anyone ever hit the biggest prize on the BetFury wheel or any other casino wheel. Did anyone hit it, and how many times... but somehow I doubt we will ever find out.

I somehow agree to this suggestion of yours. Not only on Betfury Wheels but all casino that offer free spin on wheel in daily basis. In my observation, Wheels gives me different reward than the common lowest reward whenever I deposit huge amount. I always spin after I deposit so I'm not sure what will happened if I wager.

I believe the result on the wheels somehow consider some factor to trigger different rewards because it's too frequent to happened to me to be considered as mere coincidence only.

If this is always the case with free wheels, then can we safely say that those wheels are not totally provably fair as most casino claim that every game in their system is fair for everyone, if a gambler will only win through the wheels when he or she have wagered enough money, then it's not fair for everyone as claimed by the casino, those with a lot of to lavish will be in constant wins while those with no so much money will have to spend the little they have on the casino, and get nothing from the wheel as compensation.

Anyways, some games are always rigged, and we don't have to believe everything the casino tell us all the time.

[iv4n]

Their wheel is indeed mediocre, but most free wheels on casinos are not really interesting (except for the WOF spins at freebitco.in).

Wheels can give nice if we wager enough... I am not sure, but I feel I get better prizes when I have "nice wagering stats", but it's not like that every time. I guess it would be interesting to know if anyone ever hit the biggest prize on the BetFury wheel or any other casino wheel. Did anyone hit it, and how many times... but somehow I doubt we will ever find out.

I somehow agree to this suggestion of yours. Not only on Betfury Wheels but all casino that offer free spin on wheel in daily basis. In my observation, Wheels gives me different reward than the common lowest reward whenever I deposit huge amount. I always spin after I deposit so I'm not sure what will happened if I wager.

I believe the result on the wheels somehow consider some factor to trigger different rewards because it's too frequent to happened to me to be considered as mere coincidence only.

If this is always the case with free wheels, then can we safely say that those wheels are not totally provably fair as most casino claim that every game in their system is fair for everyone, if a gambler will only win through the wheels when he or she have wagered enough money, then it's not fair for everyone as claimed by the casino, those with a lot of to lavish will be in constant wins while those with no so much money will have to spend the little they have on the casino, and get nothing from the wheel as compensation.

Anyways, some games are always rigged, and we don't have to believe everything the casino tell us all the time.

You said everything well... but there is still that question that hangs in the air, did anyone get the biggest prize? At BetFury casino or any other casino that has the same wheel?

[Coin_trader]

You said everything well... but there is still that question that hangs in the air, did anyone get the biggest prize? At BetFury casino or any other casino that has the same wheel?

Lmao, Betfury is swarm by abusers since it’s very easy to create an account there so it will be understandable if they will not give much rewards especially the big one. I believe someone will post it here if ever they win different reward on Betfury that is much bigger than normal. 

Only Winz.io WoW wheel feature is the true legit wheel rewards for me since the rewards is on free spin count while I manage to get 3rd to the highest free spin count that time.

[babygun]

Their wheel is indeed mediocre, but most free wheels on casinos are not really interesting (except for the WOF spins at freebitco.in).

Wheels can give nice if we wager enough... I am not sure, but I feel I get better prizes when I have "nice wagering stats", but it's not like that every time. I guess it would be interesting to know if anyone ever hit the biggest prize on the BetFury wheel or any other casino wheel. Did anyone hit it, and how many times... but somehow I doubt we will ever find out.

I think there are different wheels for all the vip levels. Some time ago, another member became vip 2 on Betfury and his wheel looked different (no more Funfury prizes, but only real crypto prices); this is also the same for other casinos. It is a nice addition for a casino but you always need to have a feeling that you can win something big otherwise you stop using it.

[iv4n]

Their wheel is indeed mediocre, but most free wheels on casinos are not really interesting (except for the WOF spins at freebitco.in).

Wheels can give nice if we wager enough... I am not sure, but I feel I get better prizes when I have "nice wagering stats", but it's not like that every time. I guess it would be interesting to know if anyone ever hit the biggest prize on the BetFury wheel or any other casino wheel. Did anyone hit it, and how many times... but somehow I doubt we will ever find out.

I think there are different wheels for all the vip levels. Some time ago, another member became vip 2 on Betfury and his wheel looked different (no more Funfury prizes, but only real crypto prices); this is also the same for other casinos. It is a nice addition for a casino but you always need to have a feeling that you can win something big otherwise you stop using it.

I don't get FunFury prizes... I get mostly Shiba and BTT, 100 Shiba or 5 BTT. I am at a higher level in some casinos, but even after months/years I never get any significant prize. So the question still stands, who won the highest prize? Did anyone win the highest prize?

[delfastTions]

Normally, tokens will prosper while the casino is growing but it’s different on Betfury since they are just using the token liquidity for marketing purposes such as rakebacks and partnerships while the token burn using the casino profit to purchased on the open market is not available which is supposedly the idea to boost the price.

Yeah!  If the casino increases and the number of players begins to grow significantly, then of course this should also affect the rate of the token of this casino.  It is clear that it should rise in price simply because it becomes more in demand.  However, there is probably not such a significant increase in the numb er of casino players and we are not seeing the development of tokenomics.  I’ll make an assumption: the devs simply consider the existing functionality of the token to be sufficient for now and have practically frozen further developments on its tokenomics.  This is obviously one of the possible solutions in the current general crypto market.  And this decision is probably not such a bad one.  It seems that the devs considered this decision optimal for the casino and adhere to it. 

Barely living is not good at all in my opinion since there’s a lot of investment opportunities out there which BFG token holder wasting buy holding this token hoping for the unknown to happened just to boost the price.

I already mention that a utility token usually pumped when the product is already prospering. Betfury casino already have a lot of players with huge tournaments and promotions. I’m not sure what to look forward anymore aside for big exchange listing to boost the price in the future since it behaves different in the long run because the supply keeps increasing while the liquidity on LP is not increasing. I’m not sure how long will this price will hold up though without any promising future to look forward on the BFG tokens.

By the way, the fact that the BFG rate against $ increased slightly as soon as a few hours ago the Bitcoin rate increased, this is a very good sign because the increase in the BFG rate is comparable to the general increase in the rate of altcoins.  This, if you look at the process taking into account the inertia in general of the reaction of the entire altcoin system, then we can state that the token is what is called “live”.  So all holders of this token will probably be happy after a while.  And here we can return to a constructive conversation on the topic of using this token.

[avp2306]

Normally, tokens will prosper while the casino is growing but it’s different on Betfury since they are just using the token liquidity for marketing purposes such as rakebacks and partnerships while the token burn using the casino profit to purchased on the open market is not available which is supposedly the idea to boost the price.

Yeah!  If the casino increases and the number of players begins to grow significantly, then of course this should also affect the rate of the token of this casino.  It is clear that it should rise in price simply because it becomes more in demand.  However, there is probably not such a significant increase in the numb er of casino players and we are not seeing the development of tokenomics.  I’ll make an assumption: the devs simply consider the existing functionality of the token to be sufficient for now and have practically frozen further developments on its tokenomics.  This is obviously one of the possible solutions in the current general crypto market.  And this decision is probably not such a bad one.  It seems that the devs considered this decision optimal for the casino and adhere to it. 

Barely living is not good at all in my opinion since there’s a lot of investment opportunities out there which BFG token holder wasting buy holding this token hoping for the unknown to happened just to boost the price.

I already mention that a utility token usually pumped when the product is already prospering. Betfury casino already have a lot of players with huge tournaments and promotions. I’m not sure what to look forward anymore aside for big exchange listing to boost the price in the future since it behaves different in the long run because the supply keeps increasing while the liquidity on LP is not increasing. I’m not sure how long will this price will hold up though without any promising future to look forward on the BFG tokens.

By the way, the fact that the BFG rate against $ increased slightly as soon as a few hours ago the Bitcoin rate increased, this is a very good sign because the increase in the BFG rate is comparable to the general increase in the rate of altcoins.  This, if you look at the process taking into account the inertia in general of the reaction of the entire altcoin system, then we can state that the token is what is called “live”.  So all holders of this token will probably be happy after a while.  And here we can return to a constructive conversation on the topic of using this token.

It somehow a great changes since it follows the pump after bitcoin is having a good price movement. But does BFG could able to sustain it? yes we see some small pumps from it today but I think that's not enough for people to grab some and hodl it since maybe many didn't forget yet that some still hold their token for so many months and they might not want to experience the same since its stressful to be a bag holder. But let see what will happen next since bullrun seems near to come and let see if there's huge effect that might happen to BFG when price of bitcoin could able to go up until $40k or even more for this year or until next year since positive thoughts shows up especially for many people that they look forward for more huge price and new ATH to come at that time.

[shield132]

Their wheel is indeed mediocre, but most free wheels on casinos are not really interesting (except for the WOF spins at freebitco.in).

Yes, I've never even gotten a good prize from spinning the Betfury wheel except at freebitcoin WOF, but because Betfury isn't really a site that gives crypto coins for free like freebitcoin and is clearly very different when comparing the two, so it's possible for us to rarely find one that gets big prizes from spinning their wheels and it's true that it looks ordinary and doesn't look interesting so I very rarely touch it when I gamble at Betfury.

It's possible that Betfury is just making it another way to attract users to continue gambling so that people don't leave when they lose, they can still get it from spinning the wheel, even though it's free, it might just be a waste of time. The only way to earn money there is to gamble and even then if you're lucky, personally I also prefer to spin the WOF wheel.  

BetFury is casino, freebitco is faucet that tries to have some casino elements. Btw I have never gotten any good prize from freebitco.in's WOF. What this website does well is giving away free coins. I haven't logged in on my account for more than a year and returned here some weeks ago and started rolling free rolls. I collected up to 0.001 bitcoin in two weeks via Free Rols and via WOF, thanks to reward coins that I used to purchase WOF and then got some free satothis from WOF.

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[delfastTions]

Normally, tokens will prosper while the casino is growing but it’s different on Betfury since they are just using the token liquidity for marketing purposes such as rakebacks and partnerships while the token burn using the casino profit to purchased on the open market is not available which is supposedly the idea to boost the price.

Yeah!  If the casino increases and the number of players begins to grow significantly, then of course this should also affect the rate of the token of this casino.  It is clear that it should rise in price simply because it becomes more in demand.  However, there is probably not such a significant increase in the numb er of casino players and we are not seeing the development of tokenomics.  I’ll make an assumption: the devs simply consider the existing functionality of the token to be sufficient for now and have practically frozen further developments on its tokenomics.  This is obviously one of the possible solutions in the current general crypto market.  And this decision is probably not such a bad one.  It seems that the devs considered this decision optimal for the casino and adhere to it. 

Barely living is not good at all in my opinion since there’s a lot of investment opportunities out there which BFG token holder wasting buy holding this token hoping for the unknown to happened just to boost the price.

I already mention that a utility token usually pumped when the product is already prospering. Betfury casino already have a lot of players with huge tournaments and promotions. I’m not sure what to look forward anymore aside for big exchange listing to boost the price in the future since it behaves different in the long run because the supply keeps increasing while the liquidity on LP is not increasing. I’m not sure how long will this price will hold up though without any promising future to look forward on the BFG tokens.

By the way, the fact that the BFG rate against $ increased slightly as soon as a few hours ago the Bitcoin rate increased, this is a very good sign because the increase in the BFG rate is comparable to the general increase in the rate of altcoins.  This, if you look at the process taking into account the inertia in general of the reaction of the entire altcoin system, then we can state that the token is what is called “live”.  So all holders of this token will probably be happy after a while.  And here we can return to a constructive conversation on the topic of using this token.

It somehow a great changes since it follows the pump after bitcoin is having a good price movement. But does BFG could able to sustain it? yes we see some small pumps from it today but I think that's not enough for people to grab some and hodl it since maybe many didn't forget yet that some still hold their token for so many months and they might not want to experience the same since its stressful to be a bag holder. But let see what will happen next since bullrun seems near to come and let see if there's huge effect that might happen to BFG when price of bitcoin could able to go up until $40k or even more for this year or until next year since positive thoughts shows up especially for many people that they look forward for more huge price and new ATH to come at that time.

I still don’t think that BFG will rapidly grow in price if we compare its growth with the average growth in capitalization of the entire cryptocurrency. 
Now there is some flow of capital from altcoins to BTC, and accordingly, when a bullrun occurs, on avera ge, the price of altcoins will increase slightly less than that of BTC. But it is worth considering that BFG is a utilitarian token that has its own specific purpose.  And therefore, I believe that in the case of a bullrun, the growth of its rate will be slightly greater than the average growth of rates of the entire array of altcoins. 
But it most likely won't be very big.  This is how I see the near future of this token.

[babygun]

BetFury is casino, freebitco is faucet that tries to have some casino elements. Btw I have never gotten any good prize from freebitco.in's WOF. What this website does well is giving away free coins. I haven't logged in on my account for more than a year and returned here some weeks ago and started rolling free rolls. I collected up to 0.001 bitcoin in two weeks via Free Rols and via WOF, thanks to reward coins that I used to purchase WOF and then got some free satothis from WOF.

Don't want to go into too much on this as this is Betfury's topic, but I already got a couple of 5000 satoshis (or RP) on the WOF spins and with me a lot of people; but nobody won the top prize yet (Rolex).

Happy 4th birthday for Betfury, time flies! Been a while since I have last been active on the site, but will check out the birthday party and some interesting stuff seems to come our way (crypto staking and new bonuses).

[ultrloa]

Normally, tokens will prosper while the casino is growing but it’s different on Betfury since they are just using the token liquidity for marketing purposes such as rakebacks and partnerships while the token burn using the casino profit to purchased on the open market is not available which is supposedly the idea to boost the price.

Yeah!  If the casino increases and the number of players begins to grow significantly, then of course this should also affect the rate of the token of this casino.  It is clear that it should rise in price simply because it becomes more in demand.  However, there is probably not such a significant increase in the numb er of casino players and we are not seeing the development of tokenomics.  I’ll make an assumption: the devs simply consider the existing functionality of the token to be sufficient for now and have practically frozen further developments on its tokenomics.  This is obviously one of the possible solutions in the current general crypto market.  And this decision is probably not such a bad one.  It seems that the devs considered this decision optimal for the casino and adhere to it. 

Barely living is not good at all in my opinion since there’s a lot of investment opportunities out there which BFG token holder wasting buy holding this token hoping for the unknown to happened just to boost the price.

I already mention that a utility token usually pumped when the product is already prospering. Betfury casino already have a lot of players with huge tournaments and promotions. I’m not sure what to look forward anymore aside for big exchange listing to boost the price in the future since it behaves different in the long run because the supply keeps increasing while the liquidity on LP is not increasing. I’m not sure how long will this price will hold up though without any promising future to look forward on the BFG tokens.

By the way, the fact that the BFG rate against $ increased slightly as soon as a few hours ago the Bitcoin rate increased, this is a very good sign because the increase in the BFG rate is comparable to the general increase in the rate of altcoins.  This, if you look at the process taking into account the inertia in general of the reaction of the entire altcoin system, then we can state that the token is what is called “live”.  So all holders of this token will probably be happy after a while.  And here we can return to a constructive conversation on the topic of using this token.

It somehow a great changes since it follows the pump after bitcoin is having a good price movement. But does BFG could able to sustain it? yes we see some small pumps from it today but I think that's not enough for people to grab some and hodl it since maybe many didn't forget yet that some still hold their token for so many months and they might not want to experience the same since its stressful to be a bag holder. But let see what will happen next since bullrun seems near to come and let see if there's huge effect that might happen to BFG when price of bitcoin could able to go up until $40k or even more for this year or until next year since positive thoughts shows up especially for many people that they look forward for more huge price and new ATH to come at that time.

I still don’t think that BFG will rapidly grow in price if we compare its growth with the average growth in capitalization of the entire cryptocurrency. 
Now there is some flow of capital from altcoins to BTC, and accordingly, when a bullrun occurs, on avera ge, the price of altcoins will increase slightly less than that of BTC. But it is worth considering that BFG is a utilitarian token that has its own specific purpose.  And therefore, I believe that in the case of a bullrun, the growth of its rate will be slightly greater than the average growth of rates of the entire array of altcoins. 
But it most likely won't be very big.  This is how I see the near future of this token.

Many are also not convince about those possible rapid growth that might achieve by BFG if there's no changes will come to them since for sure there's no demand will be created if no other helpful updates that can help their token to increase the interest of people following it. But if they would agree to the people suggestion that this should be listed on other top exchange then maybe it could change somethings. But still lets give a benefit of the doubt that they would provably create more better exposure to their token since if they can market their casino for sure they can also do it to their token. So maybe its good for us to find out what developments will come next or if they can able to bring some huge interes coming from huge number of people to invest with their token.