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[Eternad]

Thanks @dwyane38 for the positive mindset. Some persons don't want to be criticised and whenever there is a criticism towards them they will see it as a mockery. It is criticism that boosts performance because it helps an individual or a team to conduct self appraisal. If betfury team are relax, on seeing that some persons are tracking their road map, they will not relax anymore and that is the only way for a casino to produce quality consistently. So, whenever there is such a criticism or non positive review of a casino, it will be fine if both the casino owners and ordinary gamblers not to see it as a mockery but as a constructive criticism.

It’s different on Betfury thread since the team already abandoned the communication here so most of the criticism is also a mockery at the same time due to no answer from the team to address all the criticism.

Betfury ANN thread is already a place to mock rather than to provide constructive criticism because there’s no since criticism being address here and people already tired on giving suggestions.

[iv4n]

Thanks @dwyane38 for the positive mindset. Some persons don't want to be criticised and whenever there is a criticism towards them they will see it as a mockery. It is criticism that boosts performance because it helps an individual or a team to conduct self appraisal. If betfury team are relax, on seeing that some persons are tracking their road map, they will not relax anymore and that is the only way for a casino to produce quality consistently. So, whenever there is such a criticism or non positive review of a casino, it will be fine if both the casino owners and ordinary gamblers not to see it as a mockery but as a constructive criticism.

It’s different on Betfury thread since the team already abandoned the communication here so most of the criticism is also a mockery at the same time due to no answer from the team to address all the criticism.

Betfury ANN thread is already a place to mock rather than to provide constructive criticism because there’s no since criticism being address here and people already tired on giving suggestions.

The thing is that most people criticize BFG, and they are running a casino where BFG is just one of the perks for players and not their main objective. Many of us expected more from BFG, but in the end, BFG is doing what it's made for... providing dividend payouts for holders and that's it.

Anyway, when we open a Betfury casino there are so many interesting things... some of us remember what Betfury looked like in the beginning and how many games it had. Now Betfury looks much more advanced with many more options and all kinds of bonuses and promotions for players.

[UserU]

The thing is that most people criticize BFG, and they are running a casino where BFG is just one of the perks for players and not their main objective. Many of us expected more from BFG, but in the end, BFG is doing what it's made for... providing dividend payouts for holders and that's it.

Exactly. Casino is still a business. Expecting a steady passive income while winning from their bankroll is just... not really sustainable

[uchegod-21]

Thanks @dwyane38 for the positive mindset. Some persons don't want to be criticised and whenever there is a criticism towards them they will see it as a mockery. It is criticism that boosts performance because it helps an individual or a team to conduct self appraisal. If betfury team are relax, on seeing that some persons are tracking their road map, they will not relax anymore and that is the only way for a casino to produce quality consistently. So, whenever there is such a criticism or non positive review of a casino, it will be fine if both the casino owners and ordinary gamblers not to see it as a mockery but as a constructive criticism.

It’s different on Betfury thread since the team already abandoned the communication here so most of the criticism is also a mockery at the same time due to no answer from the team to address all the criticism.

Betfury ANN thread is already a place to mock rather than to provide constructive criticism because there’s no since criticism being address here and people already tired on giving suggestions.

I now understand the status of things here. When betfury launched their campaign in this forum, I tried playing with them for sometime but later returned to the casino I play in. My question is that, why did they decide to abandon their Ann thread here while the casino is still running?

• Is it because they have stopped promoting here?
• Could it be that they changed promotional manager, and the new management does not believe in the bitcointalk community?

If anyone has a clue why they abandoned the thread, may we know. I am sorry if this has been discussed before.

[dwyane36]

I now understand the status of things here. When betfury launched their campaign in this forum, I tried playing with them for sometime but later returned to the casino I play in. My question is that, why did they decide to abandon their Ann thread here while the casino is still running?

• Is it because they have stopped promoting here?
• Could it be that they changed promotional manager, and the new management does not believe in the bitcointalk community?

If anyone has a clue why they abandoned the thread, may we know. I am sorry if this has been discussed before.

Only Betfury can accurately answer these questions for you. We can only guess what exactly was the reason why they decided to abandon the thread and communication with the community on this forum. I have three guesses about that:
1) The OP's account has negative trust.
2) Signature campaigns and promotional posts were ineffective and didn't bring them the desired result.
3) They don't like criticism and don't want to communicate with the community that may ask them uncomfortable questions.
In my opinion, one of these is the reason.

[arwin100]

I now understand the status of things here. When betfury launched their campaign in this forum, I tried playing with them for sometime but later returned to the casino I play in. My question is that, why did they decide to abandon their Ann thread here while the casino is still running?

• Is it because they have stopped promoting here?
• Could it be that they changed promotional manager, and the new management does not believe in the bitcointalk community?

If anyone has a clue why they abandoned the thread, may we know. I am sorry if this has been discussed before.

Only Betfury can accurately answer these questions for you. We can only guess what exactly was the reason why they decided to abandon the thread and communication with the community on this forum. I have three guesses about that:
1) The OP's account has negative trust.
2) Signature campaigns and promotional posts were ineffective and didn't bring them the desired result.
3) They don't like criticism and don't want to communicate with the community that may ask them uncomfortable questions.
In my opinion, one of these is the reason.

That would be the best answer with this maybe they don't want to answer any question since they are careful to commit mistake by answering it on wrong manner that's why maybe they just let people speculate about everything happening here.

I guess what currently they do is a big minus since that measure up that they really don't care about their community so if I where you guys maybe I will start to doubt about using their service since its hard to speculate on something that we are not totally sure but much better to use other service if we are really doubting about their reputation at this point. Many people would like to hear something from them but they are out and just continue to run their casino ignoring those questions ask to them.

[avp2306]

Thanks @dwyane38 for the positive mindset. Some persons don't want to be criticised and whenever there is a criticism towards them they will see it as a mockery. It is criticism that boosts performance because it helps an individual or a team to conduct self appraisal. If betfury team are relax, on seeing that some persons are tracking their road map, they will not relax anymore and that is the only way for a casino to produce quality consistently. So, whenever there is such a criticism or non positive review of a casino, it will be fine if both the casino owners and ordinary gamblers not to see it as a mockery but as a constructive criticism.

It’s different on Betfury thread since the team already abandoned the communication here so most of the criticism is also a mockery at the same time due to no answer from the team to address all the criticism.

Betfury ANN thread is already a place to mock rather than to provide constructive criticism because there’s no since criticism being address here and people already tired on giving suggestions.

The thing is that most people criticize BFG, and they are running a casino where BFG is just one of the perks for players and not their main objective. Many of us expected more from BFG, but in the end, BFG is doing what it's made for... providing dividend payouts for holders and that's it.

Anyway, when we open a Betfury casino there are so many interesting things... some of us remember what Betfury looked like in the beginning and how many games it had. Now Betfury looks much more advanced with many more options and all kinds of bonuses and promotions for players.

They criticize because they don't like what they see on BFG since it didn't get much volume so many think that team is not doing anything just to create some demand for their token that's why I guess its good to understand people sentiment since for long time they didn't see a good action with this token that's why they are almost at peak of their emotion and little angry with the people working behind this casino also with their BFG token. I understand why people feel that since its normal reaction for people to be anxious with them since they didn't get what they expect from them. But if they could just be positive and always look on what you just have said here maybe people will not worry about current situation of BFG tokens.

[o48o]

They criticize because they don't like what they see on BFG since it didn't get much volume so many think that team is not doing anything just to create some demand for their token that's why I guess its good to understand people sentiment since for long time they didn't see a good action with this token that's why they are almost at peak of their emotion and little angry with the people working behind this casino also with their BFG token. I understand why people feel that since its normal reaction for people to be anxious with them since they didn't get what they expect from them. But if they could just be positive and always look on what you just have said here maybe people will not worry about current situation of BFG tokens.

I honestly don't give a crap about their token price. I care about the fact that from the start they tried to ignore all of my questions, which had nothing to do with token price.
They seemed to look down both on their bounty hunters, and people who mined the tokens. Chat moderators didn't seem to have a clue what's happening. They didn't have
an answers to any real questions, yet they didn't want to admit that. They just ignored and muted for questions as fud.

This is what you happen when someone hires admins without any connection to the dev team. They are just glorified chat moderators and basically helpdesk ordered from Wish.
Time when i was active there still makes my blood boil.

[wiss19]

This casino has personally Disappointed me Greatly, and I have many Friends who always ask me about casinos, and it is a shame not to be able to recommend them, because what they have done, what they have demonstrated, is because they have no commitment to the casino. community, and that is something that should not be, because to be successful in the casino, in the market you must have a lot of Community, that community that supports the Projects and whatever the casino proposes because the Community will support them , but Who will want to support a casino when they are not even able to respond to the people here ? With what gnas is this casino Recommended? with anyone, because it means making you lose money, and making someone lose money, for what? I always recommend Reliable casinos, such as stake.com,  bitcasino.io , duelbits , Among others, they are casinos that do Measure up to be able to Recommend them and they are not going to hurt you.

I would not go that much overboard, I mean yeah there has been some disappointments and some mistakes all around there is nothing wrong with saying that and I think it's quite important to remember that we are going to end up with a decent casino even after all those mistakes and when you think about that you go a bit softer on them. I am not saying they are not without any mistake, they are humans too so we all have mistakes and that's understandable, this website has made some mistakes too.

However, what we should be looking at is what we have in our hands, when you look at it here, with the token and the competitions and rewards and all around the casino, do you think it's good enough? I think it's good enough for sure.

[asyakashi]

This casino has personally Disappointed me Greatly, and I have many Friends who always ask me about casinos, and it is a shame not to be able to recommend them, because what they have done, what they have demonstrated, is because they have no commitment to the casino. community, and that is something that should not be, because to be successful in the casino, in the market you must have a lot of Community, that community that supports the Projects and whatever the casino proposes because the Community will support them , but Who will want to support a casino when they are not even able to respond to the people here ? With what gnas is this casino Recommended? with anyone, because it means making you lose money, and making someone lose money, for what? I always recommend Reliable casinos, such as stake.com,  bitcasino.io , duelbits , Among others, they are casinos that do Measure up to be able to Recommend them and they are not going to hurt you.

I would not go that much overboard, I mean yeah there has been some disappointments and some mistakes all around there is nothing wrong with saying that and I think it's quite important to remember that we are going to end up with a decent casino even after all those mistakes and when you think about that you go a bit softer on them. I am not saying they are not without any mistake, they are humans too so we all have mistakes and that's understandable, this website has made some mistakes too.

However, what we should be looking at is what we have in our hands, when you look at it here, with the token and the competitions and rewards and all around the casino, do you think it's good enough? I think it's good enough for sure.

I think it's also good, if betfurry wasn't good there wouldn't be many users joining, and all gambling sites wouldn't always be profitable, if all were profitable people wouldn't have to struggle to find work

[LUCKMCFLY]

This casino has personally Disappointed me Greatly, and I have many Friends who always ask me about casinos, and it is a shame not to be able to recommend them, because what they have done, what they have demonstrated, is because they have no commitment to the casino. community, and that is something that should not be, because to be successful in the casino, in the market you must have a lot of Community, that community that supports the Projects and whatever the casino proposes because the Community will support them , but Who will want to support a casino when they are not even able to respond to the people here ? With what gnas is this casino Recommended? with anyone, because it means making you lose money, and making someone lose money, for what? I always recommend Reliable casinos, such as stake.com,  bitcasino.io , duelbits , Among others, they are casinos that do Measure up to be able to Recommend them and they are not going to hurt you.

I would not go that much overboard, I mean yeah there has been some disappointments and some mistakes all around there is nothing wrong with saying that and I think it's quite important to remember that we are going to end up with a decent casino even after all those mistakes and when you think about that you go a bit softer on them. I am not saying they are not without any mistake, they are humans too so we all have mistakes and that's understandable, this website has made some mistakes too.

However, what we should be looking at is what we have in our hands, when you look at it here, with the token and the competitions and rewards and all around the casino, do you think it's good enough? I think it's good enough for sure.

Yes , in fact they are very good things , but the Fact of not Responding here to us Members of Bitcointalk just because they have more Problems does not Know who, then Everyone should not Pay just for sinners , that does not Apply , it is a company , they are looking bad, that is something that looks Unprofessional, the Casinos as well as many Sites that are for Adults , they live off their Community , they Live off their Recommendations , because there are Always Better sites that come out and compete with them , I am not one to Stay in a place where I am not Treated Well , it is something that can sometimes Sound harsh , but don't you think it is unfair that here I do not respond to what they say? Here everyone Has their Importance , in fact There are Investors Who are always looking for Token projects and projects Under Which they Obtain and want Benefits , that is what we must Always manage , of Course , it is what one Should Normally Expect from a Site That's what the Threads are for Ann, for me it's a Shame Because they are a Company , and a Business and Company that is here on bitcointalk is a Source of Pride.

In fact , I am a Person who has Always done things so that Companies Remain here with the Best of Environments, so that they feel Loved, it is something Normal and it is what is Always Sought, but they must also be a Little Receptive , since there are many People who Know About Business, know about Marketing , Know how to Run a Macro Business like this , Especially when they are in the best Forum in the world, then this must be Valued , those types of things are what disappoints , As I Have always said , in any case when there is Money Involved , Things are Delicate , and Clients must be Handled with respect , listen to them , try to Cope with them as they are , this is something that we will always be on a Very good Path , Therefore in Every Casino what I Recommend is that you Never do What he is doing , because being like this is Something that Should not be done.

[dwyane36]

This is what you happen when someone hires admins without any connection to the dev team.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we, as users, don't even know what exactly is going on inside the Betfury project. I mean, the Betfury team has always preferred anonymity, and there is no information anywhere about who exactly is the CEO of the project. There is only information that Betfury has such departments as development, support, marketing, risk, product, and design. Who knows, maybe the support department has only superficial access to any information and doesn't interact with developers as you would expect.

[babygun]

This is what you happen when someone hires admins without any connection to the dev team.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we, as users, don't even know what exactly is going on inside the Betfury project. I mean, the Betfury team has always preferred anonymity, and there is no information anywhere about who exactly is the CEO of the project. There is only information that Betfury has such departments as development, support, marketing, risk, product, and design. Who knows, maybe the support department has only superficial access to any information and doesn't interact with developers as you would expect.

You are right in that, you can’t find anything back about who is behind the project. As you mention there is only a mentioning that they have several departments but that is the same for almost all casinos. I think baseline support doesn’t need to know a lot on what is going behind the scenes as there are mainly there to answer questions about the functionality of the site.

[coinerer]

This is what you happen when someone hires admins without any connection to the dev team.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we, as users, don't even know what exactly is going on inside the Betfury project. I mean, the Betfury team has always preferred anonymity, and there is no information anywhere about who exactly is the CEO of the project. There is only information that Betfury has such departments as development, support, marketing, risk, product, and design. Who knows, maybe the support department has only superficial access to any information and doesn't interact with developers as you would expect.

You are right in that, you can’t find anything back about who is behind the project. As you mention there is only a mentioning that they have several departments but that is the same for almost all casinos. I think baseline support doesn’t need to know a lot on what is going behind the scenes as there are mainly there to answer questions about the functionality of the site.

Yes, many team members work behind a project and just like that many are working in Betfurry  But since they always keep themselves secret, it is impossible to tell who is actually working.  But they are trying hard enough to move their platform to a better position.  We only get to know the updates they give on their social media or group channels but we never get to know what they are really thinking.  But since Betfurry has been in the market for several years with good enough gamblers, they can do better in the future if they stick with it.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

This is what you happen when someone hires admins without any connection to the dev team.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we, as users, don't even know what exactly is going on inside the Betfury project. I mean, the Betfury team has always preferred anonymity, and there is no information anywhere about who exactly is the CEO of the project. There is only information that Betfury has such departments as development, support, marketing, risk, product, and design. Who knows, maybe the support department has only superficial access to any information and doesn't interact with developers as you would expect.

You are right in that, you can’t find anything back about who is behind the project. As you mention there is only a mentioning that they have several departments but that is the same for almost all casinos. I think baseline support doesn’t need to know a lot on what is going behind the scenes as there are mainly there to answer questions about the functionality of the site.

Yes, many team members work behind a project and just like that many are working in Betfurry  But since they always keep themselves secret, it is impossible to tell who is actually working.  But they are trying hard enough to move their platform to a better position.  We only get to know the updates they give on their social media or group channels but we never get to know what they are really thinking.  But since Betfurry has been in the market for several years with good enough gamblers, they can do better in the future if they stick with it.

Well, one thing I am certain about is that, knowing who is working behind a project isn't always of much importance, what is usually very important is seeing the good effect their work has on the project, we can draw our example from Satoshi and bitcoin as I believe this to be the most popular and most significant example to use.

Now, if you are talking about the team's effort in making BetFury casino a really successful one, then I did agree with you that indeed are up and doing their very best in this regard.

But then, when it comes to their token, BFG,  I honestly do not know if to say same, though BFG has been moving lately, but I guess that is simply out of speculations, as there haven't been any significant news on the development of the token for a while now, which have caused some investors to dump it.

[delfastTions]

This is what you happen when someone hires admins without any connection to the dev team.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we, as users, don't even know what exactly is going on inside the Betfury project. I mean, the Betfury team has always preferred anonymity, and there is no information anywhere about who exactly is the CEO of the project. There is only information that Betfury has such departments as development, support, marketing, risk, product, and design. Who knows, maybe the support department has only superficial access to any information and doesn't interact with developers as you would expect.

You are right in that, you can’t find anything back about who is behind the project. As you mention there is only a mentioning that they have several departments but that is the same for almost all casinos. I think baseline support doesn’t need to know a lot on what is going behind the scenes as there are mainly there to answer questions about the functionality of the site.

Yes, many team members work behind a project and just like that many are working in Betfurry  But since they always keep themselves secret, it is impossible to tell who is actually working.  But they are trying hard enough to move their platform to a better position.  We only get to know the updates they give on their social media or group channels but we never get to know what they are really thinking.  But since Betfurry has been in the market for several years with good enough gamblers, they can do better in the future if they stick with it.

Well, one thing I am certain about is that, knowing who is working behind a project isn't always of much importance, what is usually very important is seeing the good effect their work has on the project, we can draw our example from Satoshi and bitcoin as I believe this to be the most popular and most significant example to use.

Now, if you are talking about the team's effort in making BetFury casino a really successful one, then I did agree with you that indeed are up and doing their very best in this regard.

But then, when it comes to their token, BFG,  I honestly do not know if to say same, though BFG has been moving lately, but I guess that is simply out of speculations, as there haven't been any significant news on the development of the token for a while now, which have caused some investors to dump it.

The example with Satoshi is of course very correct and I completely agree with it!

Moreover, I even always support the anonymity of developers, and for many reasons.  Only those who want public recognition and respect strive to show the whole world who they are.  And they expect everyone to praise and honor them.  But groups of haters always appear and it all comes down to a scandalous reputation in the end.  Anonymity allows the inventor and business organizers to live calmly and richly and not have all these haters and fans, who are also often annoying.  As for this casino, apart from questions about the development of tokenomics, which they stubbornly do not want to inform BTT users, everything else in this casino is being done correctly, in my opinion, and its development is proceeding as it should and in the right direction.
 This is already becoming quite an old casino. 
We haven’t heard many complaints about him from players either. 

So everything is fine with devs in my opinion.

[shield132]

Thanks @dwyane38 for the positive mindset. Some persons don't want to be criticised and whenever there is a criticism towards them they will see it as a mockery. It is criticism that boosts performance because it helps an individual or a team to conduct self appraisal. If betfury team are relax, on seeing that some persons are tracking their road map, they will not relax anymore and that is the only way for a casino to produce quality consistently. So, whenever there is such a criticism or non positive review of a casino, it will be fine if both the casino owners and ordinary gamblers not to see it as a mockery but as a constructive criticism.

It’s different on Betfury thread since the team already abandoned the communication here so most of the criticism is also a mockery at the same time due to no answer from the team to address all the criticism.

Betfury ANN thread is already a place to mock rather than to provide constructive criticism because there’s no since criticism being address here and people already tired on giving suggestions.

The thing is that most people criticize BFG, and they are running a casino where BFG is just one of the perks for players and not their main objective. Many of us expected more from BFG, but in the end, BFG is doing what it's made for... providing dividend payouts for holders and that's it.

Anyway, when we open a Betfury casino there are so many interesting things... some of us remember what Betfury looked like in the beginning and how many games it had. Now Betfury looks much more advanced with many more options and all kinds of bonuses and promotions for players.

Many people criticize BFG because promises are unrealistic. Earn up to 50% a year by BFG stacking? Doesn't this raise a lot of questions? But this is nothing, BetFury offers up to 60% APY on USDT stacking. These high offers without wagering requirements sound very unrealistic. On USDT, they offer up to 27% APY on fixed, 365-day holding. Binance can't offer that and the max I have seen is 12%-15%. I don't want to speculate and say anything bad about them but for me, these high APYs look very attractive but scary at the same time after what happened with many casino ICOs.

[TopTort777]

Many people criticize BFG because promises are unrealistic. Earn up to 50% a year by BFG stacking? Doesn't this raise a lot of questions? But this is nothing, BetFury offers up to 60% APY on USDT stacking. These high offers without wagering requirements sound very unrealistic. On USDT, they offer up to 27% APY on fixed, 365-day holding. Binance can't offer that and the max I have seen is 12%-15%. I don't want to speculate and say anything bad about them but for me, these high APYs look very attractive but scary at the same time after what happened with many casino ICOs.

What do you mean "without wagering requirements" ? Just checked. if you want to use 60% APY on USDT, you must wager your body 6 times. And it isnt quite correct to compare their APY with Binance. Binance did not ask you to test your luck every time you put something in Earn On Binance, you obligatory will receive your money in a year (or not if they scam). On BetFury, you can lose more then you will get by the end of year while wagering

[piebeyb]

It’s different on Betfury thread since the team already abandoned the communication here so most of the criticism is also a mockery at the same time due to no answer from the team to address all the criticism.

Betfury ANN thread is already a place to mock rather than to provide constructive criticism because there’s no since criticism being address here and people already tired on giving suggestions.

What you say is true, if only they were still active in this forum and listened to all the advice and suggestions from the community, this thread would definitely not be full of ridicule because there is no good communication between the community and the Betfury team in this forum, I also don't want to give too much advice in this thread because they have abandoned communication with the community through this thread.

They only come to share their site promotions in this thread but never interact with the forum community or just respond and respond to ridicule and also input from the community which of course must also be positive for the sustainability of this project and this thread is still being filled, that's why people still care about it. while they don't care about the ridicule and suggestions from the community here. leaving this thread is a good way

[arwin100]

Many people criticize BFG because promises are unrealistic. Earn up to 50% a year by BFG stacking? Doesn't this raise a lot of questions? But this is nothing, BetFury offers up to 60% APY on USDT stacking. These high offers without wagering requirements sound very unrealistic. On USDT, they offer up to 27% APY on fixed, 365-day holding. Binance can't offer that and the max I have seen is 12%-15%. I don't want to speculate and say anything bad about them but for me, these high APYs look very attractive but scary at the same time after what happened with many casino ICOs.

What do you mean "without wagering requirements" ? Just checked. if you want to use 60% APY on USDT, you must wager your body 6 times. And it isnt quite correct to compare their APY with Binance. Binance did not ask you to test your luck every time you put something in Earn On Binance, you obligatory will receive your money in a year (or not if they scam). On BetFury, you can lose more then you will get by the end of year while wagering

Much better if they check about the information about that in their site https://betfury.io/crypto-staking

But for me I don't actually like the idea about staking especially for USDT plus we have wagering requirement to fullfil since for me its unfortunate if we lose and the profit we can get in a year waiting is less since we are locked up using USDT which is not volatile at all. Much better if we just save some BTC secured in our wallet for hodl or long term purposes since this gives more promising profit to any holder that choose to accumulate and wait for great things to happen. But we have different takes regarding on this so its really fine if a investor can take a risk if they still want to try to stake some BFG or USDT on Betfury.