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[LUCKMCFLY]

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Why would they ever remove their dividends? That's what makes Betfury interesting and why a lot of people play on this site. It's their number one selling point.
I am pretty sure they will come up with a good solution when they list their coins.

I don't exactly know why but I think that when it gets listed, it will be susceptible to manipulation. I know that it's what makes the site interesting but at the same time, we have to look at the wider and long-term scale. I hope that I am wrong about it and you are right that they are going to find a good solution regarding this dilemma.

Could you elaborate on what dilemma? You are the only one who said that BFG would remove dividends without explaining what you mean. Of course they will remove dividends for tokens that are not staking in the site. They already have token that are not staking. It's not complex.

Renampun's comment on the other hand didn't make any sense at all. What manipulation are you guys talking about? There will be same amount of circulating tokens even when they are been sold.

Hey guys I have a question, have I missed something? Has Betfury made a statement that they will eliminate dividends? I have not frequented the platform, I know that the pool has decreased, if the pool falls to zero, are the dividends eliminated? in that case there is no more staking? From what I have read, they do not have plans yet to put BFG in an Exchange, the supply of tokens is being the same, obviously when BFG enters an Exchange that would be a massive Dump, because nothing else when seeing on the platform the amount of tokens Being auctioned for sats is impressive.

If we take into account that the amount of tokens that are auctioned drops at least 50%, I think there is already a reason to place it in an Exchange, if we see the business model that is formed, it is not very profitable if it is launched at this time because they would lower the value of the token, in addition, it cannot be ruled out that later the altcoin season will be activated, which would be a great moment for BFG.

[justdimin]

Could you elaborate on what dilemma? You are the only one who said that BFG would remove dividends without explaining what you mean. Of course they will remove dividends for tokens that are not staking in the site. They already have token that are not staking. It's not complex.

Renampun's comment on the other hand didn't make any sense at all. What manipulation are you guys talking about? There will be same amount of circulating tokens even when they are been sold.

I think this is more about how the listing could be done and not about dividends only. Like how could there be listing in some exchange so that it could be traded for other coins, and what way could be used to make it worth more as well as help it get listed. I do believe that it should not be listed right now, it could be listed some other time, but at the same time I understand people who want it to be listed as well, that makes sense in their eye and I respect that. Would not paying dividends be a reason?

Well in that case, the price would crash if listed, why would anyone hold a coin that doesn't do anything, the whole point of this coin is to give you dividends. If we remove that, there is really nothing that could be done and that is why I do not think that it would mean the death of this coin, so we need to figure out a better way to get listed and not crash.

[cryptoperkele]

Could you elaborate on what dilemma? You are the only one who said that BFG would remove dividends without explaining what you mean. Of course they will remove dividends for tokens that are not staking in the site. They already have token that are not staking. It's not complex.

Renampun's comment on the other hand didn't make any sense at all. What manipulation are you guys talking about? There will be same amount of circulating tokens even when they are been sold.

Hey guys I have a question, have I missed something? Has Betfury made a statement that they will eliminate dividends? I have not frequented the platform, I know that the pool has decreased, if the pool falls to zero, are the dividends eliminated? in that case there is no more staking?

-cut-

Betfury hasn't made any such statement. I was just trying to make sense what Obito and Renampun were talking about. And yes, if the pools would fell to zero, there would be nothing to pay from obviously. But i don't see it falling to zero nor i have seen it decreased in dollar value. Obviously it has dropped in btc/eth and BNB value because those are climbing in dollar value.

[onecall123]

Could you elaborate on what dilemma? You are the only one who said that BFG would remove dividends without explaining what you mean. Of course they will remove dividends for tokens that are not staking in the site. They already have token that are not staking. It's not complex.

Renampun's comment on the other hand didn't make any sense at all. What manipulation are you guys talking about? There will be same amount of circulating tokens even when they are been sold.

Hey guys I have a question, have I missed something? Has Betfury made a statement that they will eliminate dividends? I have not frequented the platform, I know that the pool has decreased, if the pool falls to zero, are the dividends eliminated? in that case there is no more staking?

-cut-

Betfury hasn't made any such statement. I was just trying to make sense what Obito and Renampun were talking about. And yes, if the pools would fell to zero, there would be nothing to pay from obviously. But i don't see it falling to zero nor i have seen it decreased in dollar value. Obviously it has dropped in btc/eth and BNB value because those are climbing in dollar value.

Because of BetFury dividends program i've been using it from the beginning since I recognize myself totally novice in gambling industry. It's not difficult to make benefit on BetFury. Don't need to be a player, but be investors. This is my strategy. They comes us with long term goal, and the pools still tremendous that anyone can fall into affection on it.

[delfastTions]

I like your analysis but it's still speculative we are supporting Betfury because we are playing on it and we are staking our Betfury tokens, but if the developers decide to list the token to the market, there are new people coming in and these are investors who do not gamble but focus their time on trading coins, they might open an account on Betfury and stake their purchased token, Betfury's popularity and profitability will depend on the development of the platform and new people coming I to play and invest.

Perhaps I will add to your post that indeed, if there is mining and free circulation of cryptocurrencies, including your own token, the number of those who do not play on the site but invest their coins can greatly increase.  But for a gaming site, this is not very interesting.  And the ratio of players/investors in their own coin should of course be more in favor of the players.  And this is where it is good to think before listing on large exchanges and, in general, to make sure that new players come in, and investors who decide to just take the opportunity would not have a good prospect.

[Pamadar]

I like your analysis but it's still speculative we are supporting Betfury because we are playing on it and we are staking our Betfury tokens, but if the developers decide to list the token to the market, there are new people coming in and these are investors who do not gamble but focus their time on trading coins, they might open an account on Betfury and stake their purchased token, Betfury's popularity and profitability will depend on the development of the platform and new people coming I to play and invest.

Perhaps I will add to your post that indeed, if there is mining and free circulation of cryptocurrencies, including your own token, the number of those who do not play on the site but invest their coins can greatly increase.  But for a gaming site, this is not very interesting.  And the ratio of players/investors in their own coin should of course be more in favor of the players.  And this is where it is good to think before listing on large exchanges and, in general, to make sure that new players come in, and investors who decide to just take the opportunity would not have a good prospect.

Got to say that both sides project their point of views,  the fate of this project rely with how the developers and
supporters continue to have good relations. It's more on  how the coin and the business will succeed and how the
supporters will gained decent compensations.

If both are being taking care or being address accordingly, this project will become more solid and more interest
will show up coming from both the gamblers and investors.

[efialtis]

Quite a while ago, I expressed my opinion about BetFury`s customer support process here in this thread as well as on messenger when talking to my BetFury contact persons. In a few words, I wasn`t happy that people were forced to join telegram and get support on there instead of getting help from the actual on-site support.

A few minutes ago, I saw the following message and I am very happy about that - it`s the only way to go and that`s how a serious and professional casino operator should handle support. Thumbs up to BetFury for "listening" to feedback and doing this in my opinion very important change. 

🤝Faster & Greater Support🤝

Dear Betfurians!
To make our communication as effective as possible,
the BetFury team decided to transfer all communication with supports
to the Live Chat on the BetFury website (https://betfury.io/) (right bottom corner).

📣Telegram Chat📣
It remains as the place for communication, joking, sharing success and mood.

You can always find here our community managers  @Riozx, @Dark_Betfury, @Dimitry_Not_traceable, @Zyziek

The BetFury team representatives are always in touch:
 @Steve_Betfury, @Jenifer_Betfury, @kate_marketing, @claire_betfury

💬Live Chat💬
The place to discuss and solve any issues connected to playing at BetFury.
Our Supports and Community Managers are always there ready to help you.

The communication becomes better:

👍Write any question to our Live Supports at once without leaving the platform
👍Faster issues solving
👍No cheating! Users can't pretend to be somebody else - we immediately see usernames

Stay tuned and enjoy playing!

[babygun]

Quite a while ago, I expressed my opinion about BetFury`s customer support process here in this thread as well as on messenger when talking to my BetFury contact persons. In a few words, I wasn`t happy that people were forced to join telegram and get support on there instead of getting help from the actual on-site support.

A few minutes ago, I saw the following message and I am very happy about that - it`s the only way to go and that`s how a serious and professional casino operator should handle support. Thumbs up to BetFury for "listening" to feedback and doing this in my opinion very important change.  

🤝Faster & Greater Support🤝

Dear Betfurians!
To make our communication as effective as possible,
the BetFury team decided to transfer all communication with supports
to the Live Chat on the BetFury website (https://betfury.io/) (right bottom corner).

📣Telegram Chat📣
It remains as the place for communication, joking, sharing success and mood.

You can always find here our community managers  @Riozx, @Dark_Betfury, @Dimitry_Not_traceable, @Zyziek

The BetFury team representatives are always in touch:
 @Steve_Betfury, @Jenifer_Betfury, @kate_marketing, @claire_betfury

💬Live Chat💬
The place to discuss and solve any issues connected to playing at BetFury.
Our Supports and Community Managers are always there ready to help you.

The communication becomes better:

👍Write any question to our Live Supports at once without leaving the platform
👍Faster issues solving
👍No cheating! Users can't pretend to be somebody else - we immediately see usernames

Stay tuned and enjoy playing!

Great to hear! It didn't really make sense to offer support only using telegram, so live chat is always the best option!
Everybody read the latest news? When scrolling down to planned updates, you can see the following:

- New Games
- New NFT
- New Providers
- Something about sport:)
- New Huge Event

So maybe a sportsbook is coming soon to Betfury!

[LUCKMCFLY]

I like your analysis but it's still speculative we are supporting Betfury because we are playing on it and we are staking our Betfury tokens, but if the developers decide to list the token to the market, there are new people coming in and these are investors who do not gamble but focus their time on trading coins, they might open an account on Betfury and stake their purchased token, Betfury's popularity and profitability will depend on the development of the platform and new people coming I to play and invest.

Perhaps I will add to your post that indeed, if there is mining and free circulation of cryptocurrencies, including your own token, the number of those who do not play on the site but invest their coins can greatly increase.  But for a gaming site, this is not very interesting.  And the ratio of players/investors in their own coin should of course be more in favor of the players.  And this is where it is good to think before listing on large exchanges and, in general, to make sure that new players come in, and investors who decide to just take the opportunity would not have a good prospect.

Got to say that both sides project their point of views,  the fate of this project rely with how the developers and
supporters continue to have good relations. It's more on  how the coin and the business will succeed and how the
supporters will gained decent compensations.

If both are being taking care or being address accordingly, this project will become more solid and more interest
will show up coming from both the gamblers and investors.

Well, in every project there must always be a good support and understanding between the main team and the developers, as I said before, I think that Betfury is on a very good path, at the moment it is not ideal that they launch the Tokens to Exchanges, simply because there would be many Dump, therefore it is preferable that they burn within the platform doing some of the auctions, I have seen that large amounts of tokens are still being burned.

At the speculative level of the market, it is good to launch the token when the total supply has decreased, just by simple logic of supply and demand, since there is less supply, demand increases and supply decreases, at that time is when the price of the token will be much more valuable and hodlers will be more rewarded.

[perfect999]

Betfury hasn't made any such statement. I was just trying to make sense what Obito and Renampun were talking about. And yes, if the pools would fell to zero, there would be nothing to pay from obviously. But i don't see it falling to zero nor i have seen it decreased in dollar value. Obviously it has dropped in btc/eth and BNB value because those are climbing in dollar value.

I think there is a reason behind that. There is a fact that the price of almost all coins are going up, which causes people to focus more on trading and investment over gambling which causes the dividends to be less and less these days. I am not saying that it is a good thing or a bad thing, all I am saying is that this is a thing and there is nothing we can do about it, as long as prices are like this people will keep on investing and not gambling.

Obviously there are people who gets crypto just to gamble, or people who wants to stop but can't, or simply any other person who just wants to gamble but the number of these people are getting lower during periods when there is a huge bull market. ETH is over 3k+ bnb is over 600+ many coins are reaching all time high prices and that is why I think it is obvious we are not going to see too much gambling.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Betfury hasn't made any such statement. I was just trying to make sense what Obito and Renampun were talking about. And yes, if the pools would fell to zero, there would be nothing to pay from obviously. But i don't see it falling to zero nor i have seen it decreased in dollar value. Obviously it has dropped in btc/eth and BNB value because those are climbing in dollar value.

I think there is a reason behind that. There is a fact that the price of almost all coins are going up, which causes people to focus more on trading and investment over gambling which causes the dividends to be less and less these days. I am not saying that it is a good thing or a bad thing, all I am saying is that this is a thing and there is nothing we can do about it, as long as prices are like this people will keep on investing and not gambling.

Obviously there are people who gets crypto just to gamble, or people who wants to stop but can't, or simply any other person who just wants to gamble but the number of these people are getting lower during periods when there is a huge bull market. ETH is over 3k+ bnb is over 600+ many coins are reaching all time high prices and that is why I think it is obvious we are not going to see too much gambling.

But one thing I have seen elsewhere, the volume of gambling has increased new websites also come up almost every month
I understand there are gamblers who play for fun which means gambling when they profit from trading but that's only a small part

[cryptoperkele]

- New Huge Event

First i was thinking that this would be listing, but when i take a closer look at the wording, it sounds like something else. They would probably say it's a listing if it was, but this could be something better; Something huge they haven't done before, something unlike altcoin spring.

[Twinkledoe]

Has anyone here encountered problem withdrawing ETH using BSC network? I have more than enough ETH to cover the transaction fee as well as I have more than the min withdrawal amount using the BSC network. However, it says insufficient balance.

[Bttzed03]

Has anyone here encountered problem withdrawing ETH using BSC network? I have more than enough ETH to cover the transaction fee as well as I have more than the min withdrawal amount using the BSC network. However, it says insufficient balance.

I just did and I received them in my personal wallet within seconds. The insufficient balance error is probably due your withdrawal that's below the minimum amount. Check again if you have at least 0.0005 ETH

[iv4n]

- New Huge Event

First i was thinking that this would be listing, but when i take a closer look at the wording, it sounds like something else. They would probably say it's a listing if it was, but this could be something better; Something huge they haven't done before, something unlike altcoin spring.

Will be interesting to see what Betfury prepared for us this time... what that huge event this can be?! Some new coins? And new providers? I missed the last event, but I will not miss this one!

-New NFT! Maybe this is a good opportunity to win some NFT cards... I will take a closer look at this, I wonder how can we win this NFT, what we have to do for that?!

[delfastTions]

I like your analysis but it's still speculative we are supporting Betfury because we are playing on it and we are staking our Betfury tokens, but if the developers decide to list the token to the market, there are new people coming in and these are investors who do not gamble but focus their time on trading coins, they might open an account on Betfury and stake their purchased token, Betfury's popularity and profitability will depend on the development of the platform and new people coming I to play and invest.

Perhaps I will add to your post that indeed, if there is mining and free circulation of cryptocurrencies, including your own token, the number of those who do not play on the site but invest their coins can greatly increase.  But for a gaming site, this is not very interesting.  And the ratio of players/investors in their own coin should of course be more in favor of the players.  And this is where it is good to think before listing on large exchanges and, in general, to make sure that new players come in, and investors who decide to just take the opportunity would not have a good prospect.

If both are being taking care or being address accordingly, this project will become more solid and more interest
will show up coming from both the gamblers and investors.

Investors should also be divided into two large classes. 
The first invest in order to have a constant income in the future (maybe a small income even after a considerable time of the project). 
But experience shows that in cryptocurrencies, the bulk of investors are those who invested quickly got a profit and quickly leave the project (sell tokens) in order to continue to behave this way.  These second investors (and they are the majority) are completely unnecessary for the project, since for the project they only bring harm and chaos.

[babygun]

Has anyone here encountered problem withdrawing ETH using BSC network? I have more than enough ETH to cover the transaction fee as well as I have more than the min withdrawal amount using the BSC network. However, it says insufficient balance.

Are you sure that you selected the right network? Same as Bttzed03, I already withdrawed ETH using BSC chain and it worked like a charm!

- New Huge Event

First i was thinking that this would be listing, but when i take a closer look at the wording, it sounds like something else. They would probably say it's a listing if it was, but this could be something better; Something huge they haven't done before, something unlike altcoin spring.

You never know, maybe it is still the listing and to celebrate it, they will organize a new huge event. Lets wait and see  .

[dwyane36]

- Something about sport:)
- New Huge Event

So maybe a sportsbook is coming soon to Betfury!

It's great that Betfury continues to follow the roadmap. IIRC they have been planning to add sports betting for a long time, considering that they put it in the roadmap last year. So I guess this upcoming huge event may be dedicated to sports betting.

[onecall123]

- Something about sport:)
- New Huge Event

So maybe a sportsbook is coming soon to Betfury!

It's great that Betfury continues to follow the roadmap. IIRC they have been planning to add sports betting for a long time, considering that they put it in the roadmap last year. So I guess this upcoming huge event may be dedicated to .

Awesome! BetFury is a project with a shiny future. BFG will be listing on exchange, sports betting and other most significant things coming up in the following event. I'm expected more new games, and the awaited sportsbook will be unveiled soon. I'm sure new stuff that's coming up 

[LUCKMCFLY]

Investors should also be divided into two large classes. 
The first invest in order to have a constant income in the future (maybe a small income even after a considerable time of the project). 
But experience shows that in cryptocurrencies, the bulk of investors are those who invested quickly got a profit and quickly leave the project (sell tokens) in order to continue to behave this way.  These second investors (and they are the majority) are completely unnecessary for the project, since for the project they only bring harm and chaos.

I agree with your opinion, what happens is that for the most part it is difficult to determine which investors are long-term and who like the platform and bet on the future of BFG tokens, those who think that way usually have an education financially different, who see the benefits of casinos as long-term passive income and have it there without touching it for many years, because they know that as it continues to be given, it may have a time limit.

For investors looking to obtain short-term profits, they usually see it as if it were trading, but a safer trading that enjoys the security of the casino to protect their funds and more so now that it has so many altcoins included.