Reduced forum activity

[nutildah]

Maybe I'm too old, but I like this sryle of forum. I don't like the so-called modern styles, which seem to be jumbles to me.

I feel the same way... I don't actually see any need for the forum to be upgraded as it contains everything that is necessary for the promotion of discussion in the format that it currently is.

One thing that would definitely help and is probably years overdue is a mobile version. Many, many people read the forum from a mobile device, which can be irritating as there's usually a lot of scrolling involved.

Over 50% of all web traffic comes from mobile devices, and though the trend seems to have leveled off in recent years, the forum would definitely see more visitors / users with a more user-friendly mobile layout. Don't have a clue as to how practical making SMF mobile friendly is but my guess is its not easy or it would have been done already.

[Jet Cash]

This forum is mobile intolerant unfortunately. If it supported mobile viewers, it would not allow those stupid great useless images, and the pratts who insist on making nested quotes to make a one line reply.

[bitcoinsvrocks]

This forum is mobile intolerant unfortunately. If it supported mobile viewers, it would not allow those stupid great useless images, and the pratts who insist on making nested quotes to make a one line reply.

4Chan was launched in 2003 and their layout never has changed, the sub board /biz is popular with crypto users.

I now see why this forum has lack of activity, for example, the other day a user who had a paid signature quote one of my posts, and he made a joke and wrote "LOL"
I did not understand the joke, i actually never encounter a joke like that, if that was the joke, the reason for the joke was that he went trough all my post history and found some questionable truth about me, just imagine the time spent doing that, i notice that the user comment was emotionless behaving like an human spambot, i also notice that the user had a signature promoting some site, and then i got it and understood that some of those users who had signatures are getting paid to spam Bitcointalk with their comments lacking human emotions.

Instead 4Chan there is no signatures, and nobody is directly promoting scams, everybody is free to do whatever and is more alive than never, never upgrade since 2003, and i never been stalked when i post there.

[Jet Cash]

It isn't the signatures that \re the problem, but the lack of supervision or monitoring by some of the campaign managers.

One solution would be to restrict links in sigs to Bitcoin Talk threads or posts, or to domains that are owned by the poster.

[Lucius]

This forum is mobile intolerant unfortunately. If it supported mobile viewers, it would not allow those stupid great useless images, and the pratts who insist on making nested quotes to make a one line reply.

Unfortunately for some this is a big problem, for me personally it is not that the forum is not very mobile friendly - but if the memory serves me well there are some solutions, albeit unofficial ones that can help with that. I've also tried to fight those who post too large images and those who quote the same to make their posts look better - but the last 10 posts I report have remained unhandled, and for what I've deleted in a self-moderated thread I've been accused of I delete posts because I disagree with someone's opinion.

I now see why this forum has lack of activity, for example, the other day a user who had a paid signature quote one of my posts, and he made a joke and wrote "LOL"

Why did you get so caught up in users signatures when I nicely explained to you how any user can block them in two steps? Each campaign manager decides which post to pay for and which not - just because someone has something in their signature doesn't mean they shouldn't write "LOL" "YES" "NO" - it's actually quite normal in everyday communication.


Reduced activity, in my opinion, is mainly in that new users can no longer easy create 100 accounts that will become a Full/Senior member in a few months - I am not sorry because we lost that activity.

[dre1982]

I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead.

Maybe they used to use the forum in quiet hours in the office, and now they're stuck working from home with the kids around. This must be valid for at least some people, I have a hard time being productive when they're around.

For me that's the main reason. Normally at work I had some more time in between to check the forum. Now while working at home I am more concentrated so don't be that active during working hours like on the office.

[bitcoinsvrocks]

I now see why this forum has lack of activity, for example, the other day a user who had a paid signature quote one of my posts, and he made a joke and wrote "LOL"

Why did you get so caught up in users signatures when I nicely explained to you how any user can block them in two steps? Each campaign manager decides which post to pay for and which not - just because someone has something in their signature doesn't mean they shouldn't write "LOL" "YES" "NO" - it's actually quite normal in everyday communication.


Reduced activity, in my opinion, is mainly in that new users can no longer easy create 100 accounts that will become a Full/Senior member in a few months - I am not sorry because we lost that activity.

But signatures are a problem, why do i need to go to settings and block the signatures or the user because their signature is spamming and annoying?
What if i am accessing the forum without login in?

Why is not the opposite?
If i want to see the annoying spamming signature i turn the signature ON.

And this is another reason why most of the activity is moving to chats, like telegram or discord.
There is no signature on those chats.

Also i notice that some treads there is a warning saying that the creator of the post is a scammer, i never seen that on Discord or Telegram.
Take a look at ONION tread, there is a big warning, but there is no warning on their Telegram.

Is the same when you visit your favorite porn site for many years and then they start to add popups and annoying advertising and the videos of your favorite model only last 30 sec because if you want to watch more you need to pay, what users do? they go somewhere else.

But this forum have very old users who been in crypto forever and is good to know about their experiences so we the new generation will not make their mistakes, or that is what i am trying to do.

[Welsh]

The thing is with most modern designs I feel like there's too much white space, and not enough content. I know people generally like the minimalist view of modern designs, but I'm quite a big fan of getting the most data possible while also retaining some sort of readability. I think SMF does this perfectly, and I'll be honest I'm not a great fan of the new forum software layout how it currently is. There was a forum software out there that I liked the look of, but can't remember the name of it. It has some modern features which made the usability pretty nice too.

Although, I don't think the software is whats causing the traffic to dip, or at least the illusion that traffic is dipping. Since, I haven't been able to verify whether there actually has been a significant downtrend of users recently.

Update: The software I was thinking of is Discourse. Its modern, and has a lot of blank space, but I quite like it for some odd reason. Although, even so I don't think I prefer it over SMF. There's just something quite appealing about SMF.

It isn't the dignatures that \re the problem, but the lack of supervision or monitoring by some of the campaign managers.

One solution would be to restrict links in sigs to Bitcoin Talk threads or posts, or to domains that are owned by the poster.

I personally tend to avoid mobiles due to the security risks associated with them. Plus, I'm not a fan of most operating systems since they are often either partially open sourced with certain parts "closed" source or they're completely non open source. Plus, the screens are generally way to small to do any sort of long formatting of posts. Too many mistakes, when a keyboard offers ten fold more accuracy.

[dkbit98]

Number one thing we need to improve for bitcointalk forum is full mobile support.
There is no excuse anymore for not having it done so far (sorry theymos) and I am just being honest.
Young folks are using mostly smartphones now and less computers.
I am was also testing new epoch software and coinbistro, and even if I think it would be big shock and initial resistence, in the long run it would only be good for everyone.

[friends1980]

Number one thing we need to improve for bitcointalk forum is full mobile support.
There is no excuse anymore for not having it done so far (sorry theymos) and I am just being honest.
Young folks are using mostly smartphones now and less computers.
I am was also testing new epoch software and coinbistro, and even if I think it would be big shock and initial resistence, in the long run it would only be good for everyone.

We've had this discussion recently and several times before that. I rarely visit the forum on my phone and when I do, it's only to read up a bit. I'm not quite sure if there's anyone who likes to type on a mobile phone keyboard. I hate chatting and messengers already because of the small screen, so why would people want to type entire forum threads on their phone? That would be a golden recipe for one-line posters.

[dkbit98]

I hate chatting and messengers already because of the small screen, so why would people want to type entire forum threads on their phone?

You hate = everyone hates right?

[Jet Cash]

I bought a bluetooth keyboard to use with my phone. It's geat for typing replies, but you still have the problem of the small screen.

[friends1980]

I hate chatting and messengers already because of the small screen, so why would people want to type entire forum threads on their phone?

You hate = everyone hates right?

Whatever makes you happy, pal.

You could use your phone to look up what "caca nerveux" means and to find a remedy against it.

[KaneVWE]

I hate chatting and messengers already because of the small screen, so why would people want to type entire forum threads on their phone?

You hate = everyone hates right?

Whatever makes you happy, pal.

You could use your phone to look up what "caca nerveux" means and to find a remedy against it.

Depends on your phone.

I find it just as quick now almost to hammer it out via phone.

You need a good phone with a large screen. Of course so much easier to use the phone anywhere gym, beach, restaurant while slow coaches are still munching. than a laptop .

I don't find it much of an issue compared to the laptop but if you have a small phone then it would be pretty rubbish.
I suggest something like a galaxynote10 or 20plus. Or one of those that fold.  I haven't tried one yet.

I think this is my fav forum software. I'm a member of quite a few but this basic layout and function is by far the best for me.

We never had a mobile version during the last 2 big bulls so a more mobile friendly version would be good but it wont change any of the points I made in my last post on this thread.

Prepare for the next bull. Maximize and utilize  every type of willing participant or you will never reach the volume of the last bull.
If people dont believe the next gold rush is open to them. They wont come here.

Best thing for this forum is to make it appealing to everyone who is interested in making money. We all known 99% of users come initially for that. Later a proportion do become genuine enthusiasts.

Mobile version, okay a good thing to have but won't really be enough to turn things around on it's own.
Still, undeniably, it would be a nice addition and a positive thing.

[bitcoinsvrocks]

This forum is build for mobile devices, i don't know what are you talking about here that this forum is not build for mobiles, you will need a phone that supports WAP browsing like the Ericsson T20s
https://www.gsmarena.com/ericsson_t20s-211.php

Or search for an app that emulates WAP, and then you can access bitcointalk from your mobile device
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276911.60;wap2

[xolxol]

less bounties for the 3rd world country lads + abusive dt members

[bitcoinsvrocks]

Probably one of the reason the forum activity is reducing is that those members that make it are no longer here.

Just think about this, if you invested a small amount of money in crypto between 2010 and 2014 and you made lot of money and you are still holding it because you didn't bet in a scam online casino then why you want to be posting emotionless comments and behaving like human spambot while spamming the forum with scam sites in your signature? you will probably be in a tropical paradise living in a villa with pool and surrounded by beautiful women.

Most of the members left in this forum are the ones who didn't make it and are making a living with signatures and their comments lack of passion and are spamming scam.

[Lucius]

But signatures are a problem, why do i need to go to settings and block the signatures or the user because their signature is spamming and annoying?
What if i am accessing the forum without login in?

There is no doubt that you are completely obsessed with the idea that signatures are the reason why someone wants or does not want to be on this forum - so I can also ask you how you deal with ads on television, radio, internet or billboards? There are others who think that signatures should be completely banned - but I don't see how that would improve the activity of the forum, unless you think that in that case thousands of people from other social platforms would suddenly start using this forum?

Also i notice that some treads there is a warning saying that the creator of the post is a scammer, i never seen that on Discord or Telegram.
Take a look at ONION tread, there is a big warning, but there is no warning on their Telegram.

First you need to get acquainted with all the possibilities and rules of the forum, and then you will learn that this forum has its own ways to combat scammers, and one of them is to create just such warnings - which of course has nothing to do with other social networks or forums where someone advertises in any way.

[Nellayar]

Number one thing we need to improve for bitcointalk forum is full mobile support.
There is no excuse anymore for not having it done so far (sorry theymos) and I am just being honest.
Young folks are using mostly smartphones now and less computers.
I am was also testing new epoch software and coinbistro, and even if I think it would be big shock and initial resistence, in the long run it would only be good for everyone.

I started my career in this forum using my mobile phone before. Until there are opportunities opened to me in this forum and I bought laptop using my bounty rewards before. All I can say is that, it is really hard to use mobile phones but it is more convenient to many people specially new generation like me who wanted to start in cryptocurrency. It is better if there is full mobile support but I think using browser is enough to open bitcointalk forum. If there is a perseverance, whatever you have, you can utilize it.

[Rikafip]

But signatures are a problem, why do i need to go to settings and block the signatures or the user because their signature is spamming and annoying?

If you are really annoyed with signature campaign, you will disable them. Same thing if you are annoyed with some users, you can always put them on ignore and problem solved. But it's easier to QQ and complain about it rather than spend 1 minute and solve it.

What if i am accessing the forum without login in?

If that really bothers you, log in. Or is that too hard too?

Why is not the opposite?
If i want to see the annoying spamming signature i turn the signature ON.

So just because you are annoyed with signatures, forum should cater to your needs and disable everything on default so you don't have to spend 1 minute of your precious time disabling them. Sure.

And this is another reason why most of the activity is moving to chats, like telegram or discord.
There is no signature on those chats.

No one is moving to those because of signatures. They are simply different things, that serve the different purpose. Forums are generally less popular than they were 10-15 years ago, that's true. People simply have more options to communicate, and younger generations prefer something faster.

Also i notice that some treads there is a warning saying that the creator of the post is a scammer, i never seen that on Discord or Telegram.
Take a look at ONION tread, there is a big warning, but there is no warning on their Telegram.

I don't know about Discord as I am not active there enough, but Telegram does have "Scam" mark. Accounts get tagged with that when they get reported enough times, I don't know how you missed that if you are active enough on Telegram.