Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?

[arbmarket]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

[Ucy]

If by Statistically Fair Games you mean games that fully apply the real provable fair feature, then I wonder what it has to do with withdrawal fund(cash anything out?) or maybe you mean something else?
If you notice that things don't look fair with bigger bets, you could verify that the betting site actually apply the provable fair feature properly. I believe there are tutorials on verifying the provable fairness posted here before... Or maybe you could search on the web  "how to verify my bets provable fairness" or something...

[imstillthebest]

when you cash out i supposed that means to withdrew . how can they rape you if your gonna withdrew ? betting bigger does not also make the system cheat you unless they are built to do that . never has beaten the house but you can win more the moment you already won , that is if you got lucky  .

 so many dice games now are provably fair but  not to the point that they are actually fair to give you more winning easily .

[Lakai01]

If by Statistically Fair Games you mean games that fully apply the real provable fair feature -snip-

What exactly do you mean by "real provably fair feature" here?
"Provably Fair" has absolutely nothing to do with statistical probabilities of how often you win or lose. It only means that the outcome of the bets is traceable and can be calculated. Here is the statement from Bustadice:


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There are scripts and browser add-ons that calculate the outcome of the bets and check if they are really "fair" and if the casino is not cheating you. Here I can also recommend BTCGosu.com, they also offer such calculators. Definitely worth a look.

[stadus]

The thread title seem to be off with your explanation.

Can clarify what you really meant, if you are asking if dice games are actually fair? My answer is yes if you are playing in a reputable gambling site as they have provably fair and that doesn't mean also that you'll win easily because though it's fair, the house always has the edge, they don't need to cheat to win, the advantage is already enough.

[Mauser]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

So far I haven't come across any completely fair dice game. It was either a scam or the casino is taking some fees. A casino offering games without any fees at all seems a it unrealistic. Running a casino cost money, you need servers and infrastructure, technicians, IT and general support. I would always expect something to be wrong if there is no rake or house edge.

[swogerino]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

I think you are referring to online dice sites and anything online is software controlled by an algorithm.It is common to win more with the lowest bet than with the high one.When you raise the bet rarely you see winning outcomes and this applies to all software controlled games.

It is also normal for casinos to ask for withdrawal fees but the big ones make sure to pay our withdrawal fees.

[iv4n]

Luckily, or maybe luck doesn't have anything with that, in crypto gambling we have provably fair, and we can verify are the bets provably fair or not! I will share with you "Provably Fair Verifier – Verify Your Bets" tool at BTCGOSU. You can check the choice of the best places where you can play dice game, you can compare the sites, and if you don't like their choice you can try any site and try to check fairness of the few random bets by yourself!

[Tipstar]

There are many dice and gambling sites that sticks to their house edge and does not change anything depending on the users or results.
Every sites with a legit crypto gambling foundation badge are provably fair and some others well know sites that are not on the foundation yet know for their fairness. An unfair site would not survive for long and if you encountered any old gambling site with a good number of users, you could be sure it's provably fair.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

There are many dice and gambling sites that sticks to their house edge and does not change anything depending on the users or results.
Every sites with a legit crypto gambling foundation badge are provably fair and some others well know sites that are not on the foundation yet know for their fairness. An unfair site would not survive for long and if you encountered any old gambling site with a good number of users, you could be sure it's provably fair.

You have a point. A gambling site will not take long if some users already find out that the gambling site that they are playing is not fair enough to play. I think every dice game in a gambling site always stick on their house edge and its all a game of chance, so it seems fair that they are giving every player an equal probability of winning.

[kryptqnick]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

While a certain amount of skepticism towards casinos is, of course, a good thing, if a casino is reputable and has a provably fair mechanism implemented, you shouldn't think they're scamming you. The whole point of 'provably fair' is that you can check to make sure anytime. And reputation is good to know that you'll be able to withdraw your winnings when the time comes. If you're losing and you think it's because the casino's unfair, it's probably not the reason. Purely mathematically, it's how dice works. You cannot beat the odds, and there's a very low probability of systematically winning. If you take a website like Primedice or Stake, I don't think they're scamming people.

[Taskford]

There are many dice and gambling sites that sticks to their house edge and does not change anything depending on the users or results.
Every sites with a legit crypto gambling foundation badge are provably fair and some others well know sites that are not on the foundation yet know for their fairness. An unfair site would not survive for long and if you encountered any old gambling site with a good number of users, you could be sure it's provably fair.

You have a point. A gambling site will not take long if some users already find out that the gambling site that they are playing is not fair enough to play. I think every dice game in a gambling site always stick on their house edge and its all a game of chance, so it seems fair that they are giving every player an equal probability of winning.

This is simple to think since if we are worried about the fairness of the casino then we should go to old with huge number of players as tipstar said since we can assure that they will not wreck their players and they will also protect their casino for any of bad comments to the users since they have a reputation that they need to protect. We simply avoid those new casinos since we don't know their fairness yet and they are the one who mostly scam their users.

[Coin_trader]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

It's very rare to see a success story here in dice game. Most of the high roller are rare to post something about there personal stats in the game. I don't know what is your measurement to be consider as high roller but during my gambling days way back 2017 in bitsler. I won 4BTC total for a 1 month game and I withdraw and deposit multiple times. I just stop playing DICE when I lose half of my profit which is 2BTC within a day only.

[AicecreaME]

I'm afraid fair DICE GAME (gambling site) doesn't exist, I mean they may be put " Probably Fair" but they are just sugarcoating it so that many players will think that it's safe to play Dice game on them, but the truth is, they are not. Gambling sites would never let you off the hook that easy when you won big amount of money, you might be lucky for one day, but the revenge will be worst.

The most safest way I think is to lielow for a day when you won a big profit then explore other gambling site and play on them, then go back the other day to your original turf gambling site.

[Questat]

I'm afraid fair DICE GAME (gambling site) doesn't exist, I mean they may be put " Probably Fair" but they are just sugarcoating it so that many players will think that it's safe to play Dice game on them, but the truth is, they are not. Gambling sites would never let you off the hook that easy when you won big amount of money, you might be lucky for one day, but the revenge will be worst.

There's only two answers, it's fair or not, if you believe it's not fair, they are cheating and we don't want a gambling site that cheats.. but look at how progressive the gambling site now, even those who started solely on dice, they grew overtime, that is because people believe they are fair and they understand the house edge as well.

[posi]

I'm afraid fair DICE GAME (gambling site) doesn't exist, I mean they may be put " Probably Fair" but they are just sugarcoating it so that many players will think that it's safe to play Dice game on them, but the truth is, they are not.

No hard feels.
I will count you as ignorant gambler because the probably fair procedures is obvious but doesnt guarantee the winning level of gambler when playing games it just a way to verify if the gambling site are honest with their results. Mind you, the chance of winning in very gambling games is 1%.

Gambling sites would never let you off the hook that easy when you won big amount of money, you might be lucky for one day, but the revenge will be worst.

Loosing a game was not revenge cause every game are already program on the system used by gambling which the reason probably fair was introduced so that gamblers can know the site that cheat.

The most safest way I think is to lielow for a day when you won a big profit

It good to skip the game for sometime even when loosing either.

[mindrust]

They are designed to fuck you over because they have a house edge.

It is their business model.

If you want to be on the winning side, be the investor of a casino (be the house)

[milewilda]

I'm afraid fair DICE GAME (gambling site) doesn't exist, I mean they may be put " Probably Fair" but they are just sugarcoating it so that many players will think that it's safe to play Dice game on them, but the truth is, they are not. Gambling sites would never let you off the hook that easy when you won big amount of money, you might be lucky for one day, but the revenge will be worst.

There's only two answers, it's fair or not, if you believe it's not fair, they are cheating and we don't want a gambling site that cheats.. but look at how progressive the gambling site now, even those who started solely on dice, they grew overtime, that is because people believe they are fair and they understand the house edge as well.

Fairness is one of the biggest or main factors on where people do really choose up on where they would tend to play and its normal that they do easily skip out when they do saw that theyve been ripped off with the site
gradually.Majority do only make out generalization when it comes on telling that the site is fair if they do saw that there are lots of people who do play on it.There are tools which can be used on where you can
verify those bets if you are in doubt and some of them had already integrated on the site itself which you can prove it out yourself.

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

It doesnt matter because everything would happen randomly neither you do make big bets or small ones.Talking about dice game which is purely depending on luck.Even if you do bet on micro level just
because you do believe that the risk is lesser then think again twice because it doesnt really work that way.About on beating the house and getting crushed on the second time?
Its not an uncommon thing yet you can either be on greens or deep reds everytime you do play.

[Sadlife]

Dice games are really by chance, unless you can predict the outcome of every single roll. You should have just cash out when you're in a winstreak. Although there's really a control panel to increase difficultly. As in what i've seen in the past thread here. I think there's certain algorithm's they use like "double bet then loss" and many more one of the dev offers this types of services.

[shield132]

Games aren't created and implemented in casino like: Hey, this game sounds pretty good, let's create it. There is math behind every game. Casino isn't a charity or donator to help poor people to make money. It offers services, a place where you can play. Amount of money is your choice, whether it will be some bucks or even lower or serious amount of money. You are an adult who can find difference between 0.001 and 1 usd or bitcoin. You can analyze how much to bet and how much can you afford.

If you can't beat the house it doesn't mean that game isn't actually fair. You can't beat house anyway, only luck can help you.