Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?

[StephenJH]

If you create a business, isn't profit the first thing that will come to your mind.
The same goes for this gambling businesses. There is always the house edge and profits come from that.
It ain't really that huge.

But, I would still prefer the trusted ones.
You might see one that is super fair but how long could they stay?
A worse scenario is losing all your deposits rather than losing it while playing the game.

The provably fair dice games are the best ones that we can find as a gambler. It has been proven many times that without a house edge it is not possible to survive in the gambling business. This business model requires to make money by attracting new gamblers and taking the portion of their losses. In the long run, house always wins.

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[Oilacris]

If you create a business, isn't profit the first thing that will come to your mind.
The same goes for this gambling businesses. There is always the house edge and profits come from that.
It ain't really that huge.

But, I would still prefer the trusted ones.
You might see one that is super fair but how long could they stay?
A worse scenario is losing all your deposits rather than losing it while playing the game.

The provably fair dice games are the best ones that we can find as a gambler. It has been proven many times that without a house edge it is not possible to survive in the gambling business. This business model requires to make money by attracting new gamblers and taking the portion of their losses. In the long run, house always wins.

Zero house edge is just good for temporal and no business will survive on having no commission on each bet that had been made by its player and we know that this is business and primary target is to make out profits.

They do countless promotions that would hooked up players and do end up on the profiting side of things and as you said house do always win in the end.When it comes on choosing which place we do play

then we do usually end up into those popular or known ones which is normal for us to do so.

Almost every popular casino have fair dice game at their site. Casino isn't a charity, they have house edge system so that they won't get bankrupt. It also helps casino to gain profit in the long run. Actually the problem isn't in a casino. Gambler have the bad habit of winning addiction. And they doesn't loss for placing big bet, this thought comes from emotion after losing unexpectedly.

Don't forget there is a house edge, and learn the gambling odds. Finally avoid being greedy. But if you really think that a specific casino cheating you then you should share it to us with proper proof without raising question against all dice site.

When someone do notice some odd results or fairness issue then they would normally make out some accusations or complaints towards it.Usually these kind of issues can be found in non so popular sites

on the market as of today thats why majority would just simply stick into those preferrable ones because they do know that they are dealing with a fair site rather than risking up your

satoshis into unknown ones.

[pixie85]

Every Casino promote their service to be provably fair. Every Casino too have their own procedure to check the fairness of the roll. Just on the coincidence people believe in it. No one is sure, to what extent this is fair. With the trusted gambling site, it is good to spend unlike the fair functioning.

That is correct every casino has its own definition of fairness and that is why they use the word probably fair as according to them they are fair to the gamblers. Playing on a trusted exchange only gives confidence in their fairness policy and nothing more.

Every casino will claim to be "probably fair", even if they are not. I only prefer to play gambling on the old trusted casinos because everyone is sure about their fairness. Many new casinos may also be fair but it will take time when majority of the gamblers will trust them.

Did you guys just change provably into probably and start talking about it like it's the casino's definition of fairness?  I just had to ask even though I know what i'm reading. It's so funny.

Provably fair is not their definition or anything. It's simply a way of making the rolls random and visible to the player but encrypted so that the player cannot cheat.
The rolls are fair but people rarely are able to stop playing after a good one.

If you registered on a site and put $100 in a single roll and won would you walk away? You'd probably try to bet the 100 again because you'd knew that if you lose you're back to your starting money.

[Shasha80]

If you create a business, isn't profit the first thing that will come to your mind.
The same goes for this gambling businesses. There is always the house edge and profits come from that.
It ain't really that huge.

But, I would still prefer the trusted ones.
You might see one that is super fair but how long could they stay?
A worse scenario is losing all your deposits rather than losing it while playing the game.

The provably fair dice games are the best ones that we can find as a gambler. It has been proven many times that without a house edge it is not possible to survive in the gambling business. This business model requires to make money by attracting new gamblers and taking the portion of their losses. In the long run, house always wins.

I agree that without being provably fair it will be very detrimental to gamblers, therefore it is very important to choose a gambling site
that has provably fair, for those who like playing dice games. With the provably fair presence at these gambling sites, it will attract new
gamblers to play dice at these gambling sites. But gambling sites need profit to keep their business afloat. So the role of the house edge
is very important to make the gambling site survive. Thats why in the long run house always wins.

[Twinkledoe]

If you create a business, isn't profit the first thing that will come to your mind.
The same goes for this gambling businesses. There is always the house edge and profits come from that.
It ain't really that huge.

But, I would still prefer the trusted ones.
You might see one that is super fair but how long could they stay?
A worse scenario is losing all your deposits rather than losing it while playing the game.

The provably fair dice games are the best ones that we can find as a gambler. It has been proven many times that without a house edge it is not possible to survive in the gambling business. This business model requires to make money by attracting new gamblers and taking the portion of their losses. In the long run, house always wins.

I agree that without being provably fair it will be very detrimental to gamblers, therefore it is very important to choose a gambling site
that has provably fair, for those who like playing dice games. With the provably fair presence at these gambling sites, it will attract new
gamblers to play dice at these gambling sites. But gambling sites need profit to keep their business afloat. So the role of the house edge
is very important to make the gambling site survive. Thats why in the long run house always wins.

This is the reason why casinos survive in business, they have house edge on their side. You can't expect anything much from dice game. Most reputable casinos here has their provably fair tab if you want to check the fairness of their game. But even if they have this provable fairness, don't expect that your chance of winning is high because it's not. This is luck-based game so it really depends on your luck to win this game.

[mindrust]

This is the reason why casinos survive in business, they have house edge on their side. You can't expect anything much from dice game. Most reputable casinos here has their provably fair tab if you want to check the fairness of their game. But even if they have this provable fairness, don't expect that your chance of winning is high because it's not. This is luck-based game so it really depends on your luck to win this game.

Exactly. I don't really understand why people look for a fair casino. In a fair casino, you are guaranteed to lose in the long term anyway.   A casino has no reason to put a hidden script behind its code to win against you. Mathematics do that job for the casino just fine.

I'd rather look for a dishonest casino with a broken script that's leaking money. 

[freedomgo]

This is the reason why casinos survive in business, they have house edge on their side. You can't expect anything much from dice game. Most reputable casinos here has their provably fair tab if you want to check the fairness of their game. But even if they have this provable fairness, don't expect that your chance of winning is high because it's not. This is luck-based game so it really depends on your luck to win this game.

Exactly. I don't really understand why people look for a fair casino. In a fair casino, you are guaranteed to lose in the long term anyway.   A casino has no reason to put a hidden script behind its code to win against you. Mathematics do that job for the casino just fine.

I'd rather look for a dishonest casino with a broken script that's leaking money. 

Very well said, if you can see that opportunity then you can make money, if they are fair that means they are winning against the majority due to the house edge, and there's no reason for them to cheat if they are already winning as they are risking their future if ever they get caught, imagine a big casino making millions per month and caught cheating, it's a goodbye to millions of income per month, so.. they would not do that for sure.

They are fair, they need to be fair.

[Saint-loup]

I know they all have an edge. I am talking about a game where the stated odds are 49.7% meaning a house edge on of 0.3%. In that environment what are the odds of losing 11 in a row? 17 in a row? or 6 out of 7 bets repeatedly?

I should preface this with that I did have a couple incredible runs on this game in the past. Variance just catching up?

Losing 11 times in a row at a dice game is something that happens very rarely.
You should think about a tree diagram
You have 50.3% chances to lose at the first round, 50.3% x 50.3% the 2 first rounds, 50.3%³ to lose the 3 first rounds etc.
It means you have (50.3%)¹¹=0.052% chances to lose 11times in a row

           win (49.7%x49.7%)
 win (49.7%)
           lose (49.7%x50.3%)

           win (50.3%x49.7%)
 lose (50.3%)
           lose (50.3%x50.3%)

While you are right that something like that will happen very rarely the more you play the bigger the chances you begin to see events like that, for example a person that has never gambled has very low probabilities to see something like that on his first 11 tries at playing a dice game and it will be very remarkable if that happened to him, but if you have played dice hundreds of thousands of times then the chances you see something like this happening to you go up significantly.

Yes you're right, this is the probability to lose 11times in a row when you play 11times in a row AFAIK but if you play many times odds to get a losing streak of 11 loss will be different IMO.

[worldofcoins]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

Used to be a hardcore gambler but left a few years back after losing a good chunk of BTCs,
Games I played were mostly Dice and Slots.
Slots were in my favor but Dice gave a bad hit and I lost most of my balance on dice.

[Stalker22]

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I'd rather look for a dishonest casino with a broken script that's leaking money.  

If you find one, don't be shy, pass that information on to me too.  

Joke aside, I once stumbled upon some sort of virtual poker where it was played against bots. They were so poorly programmed that you could easily predict their every move and win every deal. I naively informed the administrator with my evidence and instead of thanking or possibly rewarding the bug detection I just got banned and the site was soon shut down.

The moral point of the story: "no good deed goes unpunished!"

[finaleshot2016]

This is the reason why casinos survive in business, they have house edge on their side. You can't expect anything much from dice game. Most reputable casinos here has their provably fair tab if you want to check the fairness of their game. But even if they have this provable fairness, don't expect that your chance of winning is high because it's not. This is luck-based game so it really depends on your luck to win this game.

Well, it's obvious at start that a casino is a business and it makes the owner richer than the gambler. Casino's have tricks on their sleeves and it will be always a business model. We shouldn't expect that we will have winnings because it's always 50-50 and the worst case scenario is you will lose a lot of money. It will be one-sided even if you win a huge pot, there's a percentage of it goes into the owner. All of those earnings and salary of the workers are from the gamblers, that's why some casino house have many luxuries item and display because they're earning hundred thousands per month.

[KTChampions]

Yes you're right, this is the probability to lose 11times in a row when you play 11times in a row AFAIK but if you play many times odds to get a losing streak of 11 loss will be different IMO.

This is not just your opinion, its mathematical fact. This is described by Bernoulli's law. If I remember correctly, if you flip a coin 100 times, you get a sequence of 6-7 heads in a row with 100% probability. With 1000 tosses, you are guaranteed a sequence of 9-10 heads or tails. And so on.

[bitzizzix]

This is the reason why casinos survive in business, they have house edge on their side. You can't expect anything much from dice game. Most reputable casinos here has their provably fair tab if you want to check the fairness of their game. But even if they have this provable fairness, don't expect that your chance of winning is high because it's not. This is luck-based game so it really depends on your luck to win this game.

Well, it's obvious at start that a casino is a business and it makes the owner richer than the gambler. Casino's have tricks on their sleeves and it will be always a business model. We shouldn't expect that we will have winnings because it's always 50-50 and the worst case scenario is you will lose a lot of money. It will be one-sided even if you win a huge pot, there's a percentage of it goes into the owner. All of those earnings and salary of the workers are from the gamblers, that's why some casino house have many luxuries item and display because they're earning hundred thousands per month.

I agree that casinos are businesses for owners that make their owners richer and all the games are organized in such a way that gamblers lose more than they win, because casinos have to pay workers, taxes, electricity, buildings and much more to pay.
and all of that from losing gamblers, and if you don't want to accept losing, then you have to stop when you're in a winning position and don't be tempted or ambitious to keep on playing that will lose everything in the end.

[Question123]

There is more gambling sited that's offet a dice game with fair game but we know that the team of the online gambling is always win or let just say they always getting profit. We know that once we said gambling there is  chance for the player to win a money and take note a lot of money but there is probability that you losing money for the short period of time only. Only the team or the creator of the gambling sites will earn money guaranteed because that is systematic that is my opinion only and or what I think. I play dice games and it is one of my favorite and if you want to try it just play to the trusted gambling sites because it is the way for you to see if the dice games is fair .

[maydna]

There is more gambling sited that's offet a dice game with fair game but we know that the team of the online gambling is always win or let just say they always getting profit. We know that once we said gambling there is  chance for the player to win a money and take note a lot of money but there is probability that you losing money for the short period of time only. Only the team or the creator of the gambling sites will earn money guaranteed because that is systematic that is my opinion only and or what I think. I play dice games and it is one of my favorite and if you want to try it just play to the trusted gambling sites because it is the way for you to see if the dice games is fair .

We know that gambling sites will profit in the end, no matter if the gambler can win in any gambling game. The gambling website will not let the gamblers take the win money from them, but they still fair to the gamblers because they let one or two gamblers win on the games.

But the probability of losing money in the gambling games will be bigger, especially if many gamblers played on all the gambling games on that site. We can imagine from 100 gamblers played 10 gambling games, only less than 5 people who can win much money while losing their money.

If we play dice games on the recommended gambling websites, I think they are fair enough to their members, so I guess we don't have to worry about fair or not.

[Reatim]

There is more gambling sited that's offet a dice game with fair game but we know that the team of the online gambling is always win or let just say they always getting profit.

Fair in terms of now cheating or with good percent of winning chances but that doesn't mean they will allow players to win over them lol.
gambling sites are there to take money and not to give.

We know that once we said gambling there is  chance for the player to win a money and take note a lot of money but there is probability that you losing money for the short period of time only.

it is better to say that In gambling you only have 20% chance of winning and 80% of losing so better think about that.

Only the team or the creator of the gambling sites will earn money guaranteed because that is systematic that is my opinion only and or what I think. I play dice games and it is one of my favorite and if you want to try it just play to the trusted gambling sites because it is the way for you to see if the dice games is fair .

They are the one who created the games so they will always win that is the reality.

[glowing10]

This is the reason why casinos survive in business, they have house edge on their side. You can't expect anything much from dice game. Most reputable casinos here has their provably fair tab if you want to check the fairness of their game. But even if they have this provable fairness, don't expect that your chance of winning is high because it's not. This is luck-based game so it really depends on your luck to win this game.

Well, it's obvious at start that a casino is a business and it makes the owner richer than the gambler. Casino's have tricks on their sleeves and it will be always a business model. We shouldn't expect that we will have winnings because it's always 50-50 and the worst case scenario is you will lose a lot of money. It will be one-sided even if you win a huge pot, there's a percentage of it goes into the owner. All of those earnings and salary of the workers are from the gamblers, that's why some casino house have many luxuries item and display because they're earning hundred thousands per month.

I agree that casinos are businesses for owners that make their owners richer and all the games are organized in such a way that gamblers lose more than they win, because casinos have to pay workers, taxes, electricity, buildings and much more to pay.
and all of that from losing gamblers, and if you don't want to accept losing, then you have to stop when you're in a winning position and don't be tempted or ambitious to keep on playing that will lose everything in the end.

Indeed, they will and have to make money because they are here not to do any free kind of service. So, they have house edge as well and good thing for casinos owner is since people easily get addicted as it involves money so in longer term it helps them to make money for them. For those it is beneficial who have amazing time while playing games rather than worrying much about the profit/loss from it.

[bitbollo]

unless you can't verify your roll you're playing a fair dice game.
however this doesn't means that win will be more easier catch a win, but just that you can verify your rolls after you play.
I can suggest to use site like coinpot dice game since has 0% house edge. Other dice game have an high edge up to 4-5 %, you can see the difference after a lot of bets.
However despite this high fees (or house edge) you can get some extra advantage like cashback on your bets or free ticket for lottery.

[UmerIdrees]

If you create a business, isn't profit the first thing that will come to your mind.
The same goes for this gambling businesses. There is always the house edge and profits come from that.
It ain't really that huge.

But, I would still prefer the trusted ones.
You might see one that is super fair but how long could they stay?
A worse scenario is losing all your deposits rather than losing it while playing the game.

The provably fair dice games are the best ones that we can find as a gambler. It has been proven many times that without a house edge it is not possible to survive in the gambling business. This business model requires to make money by attracting new gamblers and taking the portion of their losses. In the long run, house always wins.

I agree that without being provably fair it will be very detrimental to gamblers, therefore it is very important to choose a gambling site
that has provably fair, for those who like playing dice games. With the provably fair presence at these gambling sites, it will attract new
gamblers to play dice at these gambling sites. But gambling sites need profit to keep their business afloat. So the role of the house edge
is very important to make the gambling site survive. Thats why in the long run house always wins.

This is the reason why casinos survive in business, they have house edge on their side. You can't expect anything much from dice game. Most reputable casinos here has their provably fair tab if you want to check the fairness of their game. But even if they have this provable fairness, don't expect that your chance of winning is high because it's not. This is luck-based game so it really depends on your luck to win this game.

You cannot beat the house in a dice game. You will win few games and lose some but if you play for an extended time period, only the house will win.
All the sites which offer provably fair are actually fair and you can also verify the bets on their sites too. If any site does not allow you to verify the bets, then you should not play at those sites.

[stadus]

You cannot beat the house in a dice game. You will win few games and lose some but if you play for an extended time period, only the house will win.
All the sites which offer provably fair are actually fair and you can also verify the bets on their sites too. If any site does not allow you to verify the bets, then you should not play at those sites.

You can if they don't put a limit and you have a big amount of capital. Unfortunately for us gamblers, we have no chance to win in the long run, we maybe lucky now but tomorrow when we come back, we will be playing again with disadvantage, that 1% advantage they have is already huge enough for them to stay profitable regardless on how many gamblers are playing in their sites.