3meek
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This is called gambling addiction! In my country prohibited slot machines and there are many illegal establishments with such machines! They offer free beer and there come absolutely marginal persons... Once had a chance to visit such places, the atmosphere is special there!
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October 02, 2020, 07:18:42 PM |
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To be honest, I did not understand the relationship between the legality/and the illegality of slots and the destruction of the player's life. The player can destroy his life or spoil the lives of others in a completely legal casino. He certainly needs good advice (not to do this) but these are completely different questions.
It's related to the RTP. Even for reputable mainstream slot operators, the actual RTP and the fairness are often under question, let alone the shady slot machines with unknown RTP. If these players switch to more legitimate/fair slot machines, they will less get robbed. "It's better to shear the sheep than to slaughter the sheep" - wise man (well, it would be best not to be the sheep, but... you know... addiction). The chance of getting rekt on these machines is way higher than online slot games. I understand what you are talking about, but there is a paradox here: the most honest RTP is the most addictive (since the player often has intermediate victories). Here I would not give an analogy with sheep, it is incorrect. Rather, we are talking about the gradual luring into their networks from which it is impossible to get out. If RTP is dishonest, then gambler has a chance to feel it and not play.
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October 02, 2020, 07:37:34 PM |
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the truth is most of them have no idea if the machine is illegal or legit,because the machines was installed in legal places not knowing that it must not be there.
That was not the idea of illegal machines, they were not legal to operate nor put in a legal place, and I think you don't know what is an illegal slot machine looks like. sometimes it is the authorities who owns those machine or some others that related to them so they can operate without being busted. this happens in places that has weak laws and weak government.
I have to agree with this, most of the time person in authority is the one who is protecting these illegal operating gambling tools and even the whole underground casino. It is not due to weak laws or weak government, it is because there are really bad and disobeying people.
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acroman08
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October 03, 2020, 06:09:39 AM |
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the truth is most of them have no idea if the machine is illegal or legit,because the machines was installed in legal places not knowing that it must not be there.
That was not the idea of illegal machines, they were not legal to operate nor put in a legal place, and I think you don't know what is an illegal slot machine looks like. I agree and according to the OP legal slot machines usually have a tag that shows that the machine was properly licensed. sometimes it is the authorities who owns those machine or some others that related to them so they can operate without being busted. this happens in places that has weak laws and weak government.
I have to agree with this, most of the time person in authority is the one who is protecting these illegal operating gambling tools and even the whole underground casino. It is not due to weak laws or weak government, it is because there are really bad and disobeying people. well, this kind of practice is quite common. it was either the authority/police owns it or the owner of the machines are paying them to keep their business from being raided. I remember some policemen being arrested or being investigated for protecting the owners of the illegal machine from being raided.
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October 03, 2020, 10:25:56 AM |
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To be honest, I did not understand the relationship between the legality/and the illegality of slots and the destruction of the player's life. The player can destroy his life or spoil the lives of others in a completely legal casino. He certainly needs good advice (not to do this) but these are completely different questions.
It's related to the RTP. Even for reputable mainstream slot operators, the actual RTP and the fairness are often under question, let alone the shady slot machines with unknown RTP. If these players switch to more legitimate/fair slot machines, they will less get robbed. "It's better to shear the sheep than to slaughter the sheep" - wise man (well, it would be best not to be the sheep, but... you know... addiction). The chance of getting rekt on these machines is way higher than online slot games. I understand what you are talking about, but there is a paradox here: the most honest RTP is the most addictive (since the player often has intermediate victories). Here I would not give an analogy with sheep, it is incorrect. Rather, we are talking about the gradual luring into their networks from which it is impossible to get out. If RTP is dishonest, then gambler has a chance to feel it and not play.Theoretically, yes, but in practice, people don't feel the difference. As you said it yourself earlier, "The player can destroy his life or spoil the lives of others in a completely legal casino." And that's the absolute truth, because even if the house edge was zero, many gamblers would still lose all their money. And that's why people don't feel the difference: you can lose all you have on both, legal or illegal slot machines. But the higher the RTP the lower chances of that happening, and the RTP of illegal slots is unknown, and most likely not that high.
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October 05, 2020, 04:05:22 PM |
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The main reason people play illegal slots is because they are not actually aware of the legality and credibility of the slot machine. There are certain slot games that attract more gamblers and I have also seen some slot games who are working fairly but have absurdly high house edge and unless one research about it, they would never come to know. I play slots mostly at stake.com and the best thing is that they clearly mention house edge below every slots games no matter which game provider provide those slots.
Awareness is required to identify rigged slots and sometimes they will make you win initially so that you get addicted and once you are addicted the rigging will take place and to cover your loss you will keep on digging the bigger hole. I understand physical casino's slots are rigged more often than not and hence I personally prefer online slots.
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October 05, 2020, 04:48:07 PM |
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Hi mu_enrico, I don't think people like this care about the license and legality of the slot machines they play. As long as they can make money, they will continue to do it even though they have been cheated for months until they realize it. I don't know what make them like this, whether because of the comfort or convenience that is offered near them. But honestly, I've never seen it in my place. Awareness is required to identify rigged slots and sometimes they will make you win initially so that you get addicted and once you are addicted the rigging will take place and to cover your loss you will keep on digging the bigger hole. I understand physical casino's slots are rigged more often than not and hence I personally prefer online slots.
I'm not sure they really care about this. The addiction comes because they have won some money previously and returned for good luck. But without realizing it, they have been tricked by machines. About slots, I love them and play them online quite often.
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Alucard1
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October 06, 2020, 04:22:57 AM |
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I haven't tried playing any slot machine because I am not really into gambling and I am still young for gambling even though some online gambling has no KYC for identification, I am not still trying some of it because I know that there are still many things that I can spend my time which is more worthy than spending in a gamble. Most of the people choose to play a slot machine because sometimes they feel entertained while playing and some people really earn good profit from it.
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shoreno
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October 06, 2020, 04:36:21 AM |
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I haven't tried playing any slot machine because I am not really into gambling and I am still young for gambling even though some online gambling has no KYC for identification, I am not still trying some of it because I know that there are still many things that I can spend my time which is more worthy than spending in a gamble. Most of the people choose to play a slot machine because sometimes they feel entertained while playing and some people really earn good profit from it.
how old are you ? you dont need to worry bout your age when you play on illegal slots because they are not strict and they dont restrict kids . you can play the slot machine even if not for gambling but play because you are curious and did i mention it can give happiness ? play some penny and stop once it over and youll be just fine . how do you know that there are some gambling site dont have a kyc ? hmm... but you can use that as an advantage to play just like what i told earlier on slot machine . when gambling , time is not the only thing that being spent but also money .
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smyslov
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October 06, 2020, 11:39:13 AM |
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Some gamblers do not know that's it's unlicensed and illegal and they don't care if they are, they just want to play, they just want to gamble, a gambler will always gamble, this is the reason why do have a lot of underground gambling you cannot stop people from gambling they have the urge to gamble they have to release it whether legal or illegal.
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mu_enrico (OP)
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October 06, 2020, 11:52:44 AM |
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I understand what you are talking about, but there is a paradox here: the most honest RTP is the most addictive (since the player often has intermediate victories).
If RTP is dishonest, then gambler has a chance to feel it and not play.
Agree with sir Betwrong, people can get rekt even with zero HE, so they probably cannot feel the difference. About the intermediate wins, the 80% RTP slots can also give that, and someone lucky could still win big. When you see the mentioned video on OP about how much money they earn, your hypothesis seems incorrect right?
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krishnaverma
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October 06, 2020, 12:57:21 PM |
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Never played on such a machine so cannot comment on how much rigged it can be. One of the reasons people might prefer to play there is easy availability. Since, people like to prefer things they have easy access to, they might be choosing these machines.
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October 06, 2020, 01:14:27 PM |
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This is popular in my country and usually you’ll see this on the slums area and yes I’ve tried playing on this machine as well.
Those who are living on the slums area are less fortunate and don’t have the access on casinos or even on crypto gambling online so maybe this is the reason why they are playing, and small money is ok with this machine. If you’re going to play big on this kind of illegal machine, you’d better go to the casinos and enjoy playing with a lot of options available for you.
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October 06, 2020, 01:46:56 PM |
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the truth is most of them have no idea if the machine is illegal or legit,because the machines was installed in legal places not knowing that it must not be there.
That was not the idea of illegal machines, they were not legal to operate nor put in a legal place, and I think you don't know what is an illegal slot machine looks like. sometimes it is the authorities who owns those machine or some others that related to them so they can operate without being busted. this happens in places that has weak laws and weak government.
I have to agree with this, most of the time person in authority is the one who is protecting these illegal operating gambling tools and even the whole underground casino. It is not due to weak laws or weak government, it is because there are really bad and disobeying people. This is the main problem when we talk about gambling,because those who supposedly the one that impose the laws are the ones who broke it. there are many gambling facilities either legal or illegal that has been running with the blessing of authorities and this become their bread and butter.
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ethereumhunter
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October 06, 2020, 03:34:54 PM |
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This is popular in my country and usually you’ll see this on the slums area and yes I’ve tried playing on this machine as well.
Those who are living on the slums area are less fortunate and don’t have the access on casinos or even on crypto gambling online so maybe this is the reason why they are playing, and small money is ok with this machine. If you’re going to play big on this kind of illegal machine, you’d better go to the casinos and enjoy playing with a lot of options available for you.
They think that if they played in that casino or that places will help them win, and they will use the last place to make money. Maybe they are desperate because they can not find a job out there, so they use that illegal casino to earn money. But they don't know if they still at that casino will risk their lives because, in the end, the government can track down the casino, and all of the people who gamble on that place will get caught. If they go to the legal casino, they need to have more money to enter that place.
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October 06, 2020, 03:49:18 PM |
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If the use of any illegal thing is increasing day by day then it only means that it is readily available and easily usable in the market. The owners place these illegal slot machines because it is readily available, easy to tweak, lower installation cost and they know that the customers would surely use it. The main reason behind it is that the gamblers would lose some money and go away but these small gambles would generate a bigger income for the owner.
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October 07, 2020, 08:46:32 PM |
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If the use of any illegal thing is increasing day by day then it only means that it is readily available and easily usable in the market. The owners place these illegal slot machines because it is readily available, easy to tweak, lower installation cost and they know that the customers would surely use it.
^ That's definitely true, people who are in gambling because they gamble. Illegal or legal, they are there to take the risk. They already knew the consequences but something is giving them the power to pursue gambling even if the platforms they use are illegal. They wouldn't care. Their thrill for risky activities is being rewarded by these platforms so be it. Nevertheless, the fact that the unlicensed casinos are always doubtful because that probably of not having a provably fair system.
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Johnyz
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October 07, 2020, 09:37:30 PM |
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If the use of any illegal thing is increasing day by day then it only means that it is readily available and easily usable in the market. The owners place these illegal slot machines because it is readily available, easy to tweak, lower installation cost and they know that the customers would surely use it.
^ That's definitely true, people who are in gambling because they gamble. Illegal or legal, they are there to take the risk. They already knew the consequences but something is giving them the power to pursue gambling even if the platforms they use are illegal. They wouldn't care. Their thrill for risky activities is being rewarded by these platforms so be it. Nevertheless, the fact that the unlicensed casinos are always doubtful because that probably of not having a provably fair system. Its increasing because some of the government official support this one and they are protected by the policemen and this is happening in my country. Even if they broke many illegal machines they can’t stop this one not until those corrupt officials are gone. I don’t want to risk my life just to try playing on this illegal machine, those who money that you make on illegal things wont last.
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bitcoin31
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October 07, 2020, 10:03:43 PM |
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I did not tried the mentioned machine, yes there is a lot of gambling sige who are licensed and better to play because it's fair and yiu are sure your money is safe. Maybe they have reasons why that gambling games in that country are booming so why people keep playing that even it is not register or does not permit. Many people are sadly playing gambling during the pandemic instead of buying their needs it's good playing but in moderation .
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Becky666
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October 07, 2020, 10:24:10 PM |
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Some gamblers do not know that's it's unlicensed and illegal and they don't care if they are, they just want to play, they just want to gamble, a gambler will always gamble, this is the reason why do have a lot of underground gambling you cannot stop people from gambling they have the urge to gamble they have to release it whether legal or illegal.
Most of them (gambler) don't care about the documentation of the gamble casino, they are after what they can get out from the gambling platform. Some of them look out for conveniences (how the gambling platform present their activities) while they choose to gamble, gambling platforms I have visited can be as a result of their conveniences with them and not based on their licensed or others, though, they are important but convenience is my watchword.
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