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September 27, 2020, 01:58:41 AM
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It is of no doubt that many investors detest bounty hunters as they usually attribute the fault of price fall and dump to them, instead of blaming the project teams that do not put things in place to make their projects stand out.
Today, the team equally treat the hunters wickedly as if they're beggars after the hunters have completed the tasks assigned to them.

I recently witnessed a bounty pool of $15,000 with a participants of around 2,000. The bounty bounty was first scheduled for 4 weeks and later extended to 20 without a dime added to the pool.

The hunters endure the hash condition to complete the project and the hunters' were still delayed for several months after the bounty ended. When the started to pay, just 20% was released extending the rest of the payment to over 9 months.

Despite all these, the token price is still not attractive. Are all these hash treatments meted on hunters worth it!
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September 27, 2020, 02:45:07 AM
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It is of no doubt that many investors detest bounty hunters as they usually attribute the fault of price fall and dump to them, instead of blaming the project teams that do not put things in place to make their projects stand out.
Today, the team equally treat the hunters wickedly as if they're beggars after the hunters have completed the tasks assigned to them.
There're a lot factor on shitcoin dump and bounty hunters is one of them. Most bounty hunters will quickly cashing out or exchange to top 10 coin after they got shitcoin from bounties.

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I recently witnessed a bounty pool of $15,000 with a participants of around 2,000. The bounty bounty was first scheduled for 4 weeks and later extended to 20 without a dime added to the pool.

The hunters endure the hash condition to complete the project and the hunters' were still delayed for several months after the bounty ended. When the started to pay, just 20% was released extending the rest of the payment to over 9 months.
Not sure which bounties you joined in, but I believe that bounties also wrote this kind rules and you can't do anything since it's a rules. Their bounty their rules.

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September 27, 2020, 04:26:07 AM
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It is of no doubt that many investors detest bounty hunters as they usually attribute the fault of price fall and dump to them, instead of blaming the project teams that do not put things in place to make their projects stand out.
Today, the team equally treat the hunters wickedly as if they're beggars after the hunters have completed the tasks assigned to them.

I recently witnessed a bounty pool of $15,000 with a participants of around 2,000. The bounty bounty was first scheduled for 4 weeks and later extended to 20 without a dime added to the pool.

The hunters endure the hash condition to complete the project and the hunters' were still delayed for several months after the bounty ended. When the started to pay, just 20% was released extending the rest of the payment to over 9 months.

Despite all these, the token price is still not attractive. Are all these hash treatments meted on hunters worth it!

There are good managers who handle these professionally and join those projects they put forward. this is an old thread but do check it ouy

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September 27, 2020, 04:46:18 AM
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I have seen something similar happened a lot of time. Sadly nothing can be done about it because we can't dictate the rules and, sometimes it's not even CM's fault IMO the fault usually are of project owners. When something like this happens to me I usually walk out of the project's campaign.

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September 27, 2020, 05:38:07 AM
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Today, the team equally treat the hunters wickedly as if they're beggars after the hunters have completed the tasks assigned to them.
I have also been a victim of this treatment too and to this I think hinters should only participate in bounties whose rewards are escrowed to a trusted manager. That's the surest way of making sure one gets one's reward at the end.

I recently witnessed a bounty pool of $15,000 with a participants of around 2,000. The bounty bounty was first scheduled for 4 weeks and later extended to 20 without a dime added to the pool.

The hunters endure the hash condition to complete the project and the hunters' were still delayed for several months after the bounty ended. When the started to pay, just 20% was released extending the rest of the payment to over 9 months.
I like it when we put out the names of these projects and their managers so we can shame them at the same time. We shouldn't be protecting them by masking their names and making them anonymous. Are you by chance referring to the Tokoin project? OP, if you don't mind kindly put out the name of the project you referred to so others we know you've facts.

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September 27, 2020, 06:18:31 AM
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Let's face the truth that some bounty hunters do that dumping and they're a lot, maybe you're just the tiny portion of those who just keep holding it.
Even if the team treat their bounty participants equally, they can't do anything once the BHs received their coins already. They're just gonna go separate ways.
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September 27, 2020, 06:57:12 AM
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It is of no doubt that many investors detest bounty hunters as they usually attribute the fault of price fall and dump to them, instead of blaming the project teams that do not put things in place to make their projects stand out.
Today, the team equally treat the hunters wickedly as if they're beggars after the hunters have completed the tasks assigned to them.

I recently witnessed a bounty pool of $15,000 with a participants of around 2,000. The bounty bounty was first scheduled for 4 weeks and later extended to 20 without a dime added to the pool.

The hunters endure the hash condition to complete the project and the hunters' were still delayed for several months after the bounty ended. When the started to pay, just 20% was released extending the rest of the payment to over 9 months.

Despite all these, the token price is still not attractive. Are all these hash treatments meted on hunters worth it!

Sometimes these projects  are not paying but why are you protecting the project, why not post the name of the campaign and make them answerable to the community we can also warn investors about their behavior, if they can do this to bounty hunters they can also do this to investors this kind of behaviors are also the same behaviors of scammers.

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September 27, 2020, 08:11:09 AM
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Let's face the truth that some bounty hunters do that dumping and they're a lot, maybe you're just the tiny portion of those who just keep holding it.
Even if the team treat their bounty participants equally, they can't do anything once the BHs received their coins already. They're just gonna go separate ways.

No  I don't agree with you opinion the project should be the one to be prepared once thier tokens offered as payment . If you don't really want hunters to sell thier share you should pay them in other crypto currency instead of your own coins. It's normal for workers to widraw the money they earn from the job they done so you cannot blame them if they want to sell thier shares .

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Let's face the truth that some bounty hunters do that dumping and they're a lot, maybe you're just the tiny portion of those who just keep holding it.
Even if the team treat their bounty participants equally, they can't do anything once the BHs received their coins already. They're just gonna go separate ways.

No  I don't agree with you opinion the project should be the one to be prepared once thier tokens offered as payment . If you don't really want hunters to sell thier share you should pay them in other crypto currency instead of your own coins. It's normal for workers to widraw the money they earn from the job they done so you cannot blame them if they want to sell thier shares .

You made a salient point. The bounty hunters are entitled to their funds. They earned the tokens by hardwork and could decide to do whatever they want with it. If they choose to invest, fine and if choose to cash out, better. If the project is so concerned about dumping, they could pay hunters in USDT and I'm certain that hunters would even prefer that.
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September 27, 2020, 08:38:53 AM
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Let's face the truth that some bounty hunters do that dumping and they're a lot
I don't think so. Bounty hunters don't dump the token price. We can see that most of the tokens are being dumped 1/2 days before the day bounty hunters are distributed. I have many examples like OKS, ZYX, SGC, ANG, IQ, ARX etc. So how are the bounty hunters dumping the price but they are being deprived of the fair price. I think the team and exchange are jointly dumping the price. Don't blame bounty hunters for price dumping.
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September 27, 2020, 08:54:44 AM
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I stil do no understand this shit explanation by investors. When only a small portion out of the total tokens are distributed to hunters how can they affect the price of  that token?

Investors should understand this simple calculation..

Most hunters here do not care about the project and they are willing to promote anything that pays them token, without even realising what the project is offering?

If you are promoting a shit project you will end up getting peanuts. In my opinion hunters are responsible for such treatment from project developers.

Still there is no guarantee a project will deliver what they have promised as a hunter you have to be ready to take that risk.

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September 27, 2020, 08:56:36 AM
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Let's face the truth that some bounty hunters do that dumping and they're a lot
I don't think so. Bounty hunters don't dump the token price. We can see that most of the tokens are being dumped 1/2 days before the day bounty hunters are distributed. I have many examples like OKS, ZYX, SGC, ANG, IQ, ARX etc. So how are the bounty hunters dumping the price but they are being deprived of the fair price. I think the team and exchange are jointly dumping the price. Don't blame bounty hunters for price dumping.

If the coin (project) is solid, there is no reason for the price to fall after distribution to bounty hunters. The price drop is most often caused by poor project performance and development or poor bounty planning. If you think your bounty hunters will take down the price of the coin (token) then just don't organize bounty campaigns. Simple as that!
But no, most of today's projects are conceived as scam from the start. Therefore, the cause of the price drop are not the bounty hunters but the owners themselves who are trying to cash in their bags as soon as possible.

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September 27, 2020, 09:08:32 AM
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We can not do anything about it. If any project offers a 500$ rewards pool for a project promoting there will be also more than 500 participants. Mostly all of them are not an individual id. Some people use a lot of ids to do the bounty. The work of hunters became so cheap because of huge participants. If a project offers a small pool and very few people joined they will surely increase the pool.

THe project should know what they are looking as advertiser don't look for quality look for quantity that the promotion can have if you will only choose all the participants that can join in your campaign.

This is also another big problem in the forum there are too many abuser that want to earn free money in the name of bounties. so they join using multiple accounts in many  bounty campaign .

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September 27, 2020, 09:17:57 AM
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If the project is so concerned about dumping, they could pay hunters in USDT and I'm certain that hunters would even prefer that.

But reality will always slap us in the face. Most project managers mentality is "Why would we pay convertible money when we can just pay them useless tokens! Not to mention abuse them and treat them like a dog!". I've been a victim of this abuse that's why I stopped doing bounty campaigns that pays in valueless tokens (Though I still consider projects that depend reputable campaign manager and project founder).
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September 27, 2020, 09:21:32 AM
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A couple of years ago, there was an initiative to create a bounty hunter trade Union that would protect their interests. But after a long discussion, it came to nothing. Therefore, as before, each bounty hunter must independently decide which bounty to participate in. At the same time, they should keep in mind that the rules may be changed and they may not be paid for their work.

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September 27, 2020, 10:04:21 AM
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This happens quite regularly and teams behind those projects are usually getting away with no repercussions. You cant fight them legally, but bounty participant should more often raise their voice and express their stark disagreement with such unfair changes/practices. In the past I observed that threats of "scam accusation" work the best as teams are afraid that that could damage the image of their project.
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September 27, 2020, 11:44:22 AM
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All this is due to hunters blindly following each and every campaign, I have also seen such campaigns couple of times and i think hunters should unite in this case and pressurise the team to stick with original plan otherwise report those people for fraud everywhere. So that others will not exploit hunters in future.

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September 27, 2020, 11:53:10 AM
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Just to be fair with the projects, perhaps they've learned their lessons from the 2017 bull run. Many bounty hunters cheats a lot of campaign with alt accounts but no one. complain that time from bounty hunters because they make a killing out of it. But the community started to have merits, and bounty cheaters are caught one by one. And then the project offering has been reduce and now we have started to hear this complaints for the last 2 to 3 years or so because the market witnessed a bear market.

I guess for bounty hunters, if you find the project offering you cheap rewards then skip and look for other bounties. We are no longer in the 2017 hype, everything has change then. It's no longer a "job" for everyone. You might as well be a trader or investor to make more money instead of joining scam and fraud projects.

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September 27, 2020, 12:13:23 PM
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It is of no doubt that many investors detest bounty hunters as they usually attribute the fault of price fall and dump to them, instead of blaming the project teams that do not put things in place to make their projects stand out.
Mostly they make the hunters faulty in a reason that they don't care much of the tokens being sent to them but if it will be put in one piece mostly investors contribute much of the falling price if certain investors do have a weak hand.

Today, the team equally treat the hunters wickedly as if they're beggars after the hunters have completed the tasks assigned to them.

I recently witnessed a bounty pool of $15,000 with a participants of around 2,000. The bounty bounty was first scheduled for 4 weeks and later extended to 20 without a dime added to the pool.

The hunters endure the hash condition to complete the project and the hunters' were still delayed for several months after the bounty ended. When the started to pay, just 20% was released extending the rest of the payment to over 9 months.

Despite all these, the token price is still not attractive. Are all these hash treatments meted on hunters worth it!
As far as I could tell it isn't but hunters do have a choice where they'll join projects they think that has good pay. As per the distribution I think it was a little too harsh really, I've been on the same boat and still waiting if they'll ever distribute it, hoping the future of bounties is paid weekly or monthly.
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September 27, 2020, 12:24:48 PM
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It is of no doubt that many investors detest bounty hunters as they usually attribute the fault of price fall and dump to them, instead of blaming the project teams that do not put things in place to make their projects stand out.
Today, the team equally treat the hunters wickedly as if they're beggars after the hunters have completed the tasks assigned to them.

I recently witnessed a bounty pool of $15,000 with a participants of around 2,000. The bounty bounty was first scheduled for 4 weeks and later extended to 20 without a dime added to the pool.

The hunters endure the hash condition to complete the project and the hunters' were still delayed for several months after the bounty ended. When the started to pay, just 20% was released extending the rest of the payment to over 9 months.

Despite all these, the token price is still not attractive. Are all these hash treatments meted on hunters worth it!

You faced a common one,which was faced by many hunters after full work by the bounty team.It should be avoided by the project to get good response from hunters and investors.After bounty also the token going to sustain in the market,if they scam hunters it will loss for the project at the end.
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