Where do you store your seed?

[jerry0]

Okay so ppl seem to all say don't store it online.


But the method i suggested earlier in the thread


Type seed in password manager like keepass/lastpass.


Upload it to the cloud whether dropbox/gmail.




So the hacker would need


Your dropbox/gmail password


Your master password for keepass/lastpass



So that is two barriers they need... the first is obviously much easier since you hear about emails getting hacked.


So wouldn't this be good enough?




Now imagine a third barrier... use a program like axcrypt which I use to encrypt documents.  Now imagine you encrypt keepass with axcrypt?


Now the hacker would need


dropbox/gmail password

master password for keepass/lastpass

password for axcrypt



Now my issue with three barriers would be well what if you forget your password for axcrypt.  Mine is a long number/letter that was generated from a password manager. 



But the one issue with this would be if you get malware/keylogger on your laptop... then all these two or three barriers would be completely useless then right?  Since if you get that, then the hacker will see your key strokes and everything when you log into dropbox/gmail and keepass/lastpass/axcrypt right?


So this method would work the two or three barrier method with uploading to the cloud, but you need to make sure one hundred percent your laptop doesn't get malware/keylogger right?

[jerry0]

https://www.investopedia.com/news/how-winklevoss-twins-store-their-crypto-fortune/


So the winkelvoss store them throughout safety deposit boxes throughout the US.  So in that article, its a paper wallet in each one?  It says a printout of their private keys ... so does that mean like them writing the seed in paper or like a paper seed?


So wouldn't this be very safe?  Thus imagine they split the seed into two with two banks?  But of course they make a copy of each.  So wouldn't that mean like it take four banks for one seed?  Thus imagine they have ten wallets, they they get forty safe deposit boxes throughout the US?


I thought one idea was to have two safety deposit boxes.. where you split it into two pieces of paper.  Would you recommend this?

[florizz]

I store it on a piece of paper in my fav book in my flat. Its safe for me

[Sapphire915]

I believe that we should always be very keen in choosing the right place for our seed phrase, may it be in the same secured digital places or a personal hard copy depending on what we think that its really protected from all the hackers and negative events that might occur uncertainly. But as for me, I preferred to write it down in a notebook including the lists of all the exchanges of my stored tokens. And I believe its really safe.

[Gotumoot]

It depends on the situation I once stored my wallet seed on my phone and my laptop because I couldn't find any paper or pen to write it down it was the first time that I used a wallet that let me keep my seed or passphrase.
But now whenever I got to asked to write down those important words I would make sure to save it on paper and keep it on my wallet or drawer.

[jerry0]

People who say write it in notebook, do you put it in open?  Drawer?


Now do have other things written in the notebook as well?  That to me is very important because if you only write it in notebook and nothing else, don't you agree that isn't safe if someone has access to it?



Also if its on paper and in your house?  Which would you say is safer? 





Writing it in those cards ledger gives you and you hide it somewhere?


Or


Just write it down in a notebook?



Because it seems like notebook is less suspicious don't you think?

[Kez1817]

I just right down and store it in a paper because I think it's much safer than storing it online but I keep it very well so I will not lose it. But I also have screenshot of all my wallet and private key so that I still have a back up if ever my paper wallet will lose or tear.

[Blackrain13]

I wrote my Seed in my Desktop notes then I also take a screenshot on it before saving then I also wrote it in a small notebook so that I have a lot of copy of my seed and private key.

[bittraffic]

I wrote my Seed in my Desktop notes then I also take a screenshot on it before saving then I also wrote it in a small notebook so that I have a lot of copy of my seed and private key.

I keep some of my seed and paswords on the txt file.

Installing a wallet particularly on mobile phones doesn't allow us to take a screenshot and what I do is just write them down on a txt file and save these txt files on my USB drive that I kept in a safe place. But then I also keep the txt file on my desktop for easier access. Its safer when you have a redundant saved copy somewhere hidden only you knew.

[Chris Barth]

TBH, I have been careless with my seed (regarding where I store it), but how I store it is Unique!. A lot of people say it's wiser to store it offline, while others say the reverse. The truth is, store it where you know that no one can get it. Mine is written in a mixed-up way and then encrypted into a barcode. So, even though someone finds the barcode (which I doubt), they may never understand what it is. Maybe you can just research more about making ciphers.

[Sebas.tian]

I usually write my seeds in my diary, also I take a picture and put it in a secret folder with password protected of course. I know lots of people have lost their seeds or private keys and lost thousands of dollars. So I would say be careful with your seeds, keep it safe somewhere and tell your wife or children about it in case something happens to you.

Your practice can be detrimental, if there is a compromise in your device along the line. We have heard thousands of investors complaining about their stolen funds and most are traced down to how they kept their seeds. Basically, your seeds shouldn't be store in your device except that device doesn't have connection to the internet. I will always recommend that, write your seeds phrase in your paper or diaries which will be a better option to store your coins.

[aioc]

Yours is just a few a possibilities, but the possibility is endless, I prefer doing it in two to three ways, the first one is through a bank vault, there are banks that offer this kind of service to their client at a discounted yearly subscription, this is what John Wick on the part of the movie, the second is burying the vault where the private seed is, to a secret floor of your house, it's safe from flood and fire and it's an old tradition of keeping your treasure.

[Wawa2013]

To be sure I will avoid storing seeds on personal computers and e-mail, because both places are easily accessible to hackers.
I prefer the traditional way by writing the seeds on a piece of paper and storing them in a safe place. As was done by Winklevoss
twins which keeps the seeds in deposit boxes in the bank, it is a safe way so that they cannot be stolen. And don't keep the seeds
in one place, we have to keep the seeds in 2-3 places just in case.

[jerry0]

Yours is just a few a possibilities, but the possibility is endless, I prefer doing it in two to three ways, the first one is through a bank vault, there are banks that offer this kind of service to their client at a discounted yearly subscription, this is what John Wick on the part of the movie, the second is burying the vault where the private seed is, to a secret floor of your house, it's safe from flood and fire and it's an old tradition of keeping your treasure.

Well you split your seed into two pieces right?  So you would put it in four different banks since it would then have two copies each right?


If you put it in a vault to a secret floor in your house, are you putting your entire seed there?  Or just half of it?  Also if someone isn't in your house, they can't suddenly get down there right?  Like for some reason, im imagining some ppl next to you or tunnel people going underground and finding it... that is still possible right? 

[jerry0]

To be sure I will avoid storing seeds on personal computers and e-mail, because both places are easily accessible to hackers.
I prefer the traditional way by writing the seeds on a piece of paper and storing them in a safe place. As was done by Winklevoss
twins which keeps the seeds in deposit boxes in the bank, it is a safe way so that they cannot be stolen. And don't keep the seeds
in one place, we have to keep the seeds in 2-3 places just in case.

Are you sure safe deposit boxes can't be stolen?  I heard cases of this.  But if you have the seed in multiple banks... that is much safer.  But then again, imagine one of your seeds was in a bank... and the other seed is in another bank... but say its only a short few minute walk to the other one.  Surely you wouldn't want that right and want them in farther locations?


So wouldn't you need four bank safety boxes then for one seed?  Thus split it into two... and two copies? 


That would mean like if someone wants to have two seeds... imagine two nano ledger s or trezor... wouldn't they need to have 8 safety deposit boxes to do this?  I mean if you think about the winklevoss's, i gotta assume they probably have probably at least 20 safety deposit boxes throughout the US right?  That way its 2 copies each and 2 different locations... so that would be like having 5 different seeds?

[AicecreaME]

I store mine in my laptop. I put it inside a folder in which it's not obvious that I would store such thing in there. I made it invisible by simply selecting it and click "hide" feature in Windows 10. Having so much folders in my laptop drivers, I'm sure no one would see it and I barely lend my laptop to someone I don't know.

I also put it in excel and put it in my cellphone's hidden cabinet, which is secured by my toe finger print and a combination of 6 numbers.

EDIT: I told my mom where I hide it and how to use it, just in case I die. For furthermore questions, I told her that he could my friends about it to help her.

[lepbagong]

I store mine in my laptop. I put it inside a folder in which it's not obvious that I would store such thing in there. I made it invisible by simply selecting it and click "hide" feature in Windows 10. Having so much folders in my laptop drivers, I'm sure no one would see it and I barely lend my laptop to someone I don't know.

I also put it in excel and put it in my cellphone's hidden cabinet, which is secured by my toe finger print and a combination of 6 numbers.

I also do the same thing with you to save a laptop with a folder that includes many and is very secretive, sometimes we ourselves also forget. but I myself experienced it not wearing when my mew could be detected by others, and I suspect that someone is taking from a possible mistake I opened something dangerous link. but i immediately updated the mew and installed a new internet virus.

indeed, don't even lend your laptop that you have kept what you need confidential for other people to use and I also do that.


what you do in a very unusual way will certainly make people difficult as long as we don't forget to put it down or forget it.

[jerry0]

Just thought about something else.  What about the nano ledger s box?  Because well if someone finds it, and know what it is, they know you have a wallet?



Also so would you all say its better to do the  25th word or not?  Do most here choose this?  Because if you put that word somewhere else in your home... well you could write that word anywhere or put it somewhere else and its hard for anyone to tell thats the word right?

[JahriMeayer]

I know many way to securely store seeds and most of those become so hard and not satisfactory for me as i don't want to make things complex.i Simply write my seeds on note paper in laptop, then save it.then make some copies, transfer those to my smartphones, also upload to my google drive, so that i never lost them.note that, i don't use that gmail anywhere but only to keep a copy of my seed.of course hackers can't access my gmail cause they don't know about those but i know if my computer get attacked by virus, then that maybe risky for seed but i like the way best for myself

[milani]

Personally I do not trust any electronic programs or apps for keeping my data there, especially seeds or keys to wallets. So I do not recommend this to others. Of course the most riable place fo keeping such things is offline not connected with your gadgets place. Because to find the information on any of your gadgets will not be such a big problem for different tech genius.