Where do you store your seed?

[Mr.sprin]

I'm not like others who think a complicated way to store their seeds like splitting it in half because there's a chance I might forget it for a long time. That is why I am now storing all of my important info in Keepass, I choose this program because it can be used offline yet the database created on it was saved on your phone so you don't need to worry where the database located. Just like I said the database of KeePass was made by you, unlike an online password manager.
I also once used to store it on a piece of paper but this can be destroyed instantly if something natural disaster happens. So I moved it in form of digital.

Smart action, storing on paper can be destroyed in the event of a natural disaster, fire or other. storing offline on the cellphone also doesn't go anywhere because the cellphone can be damaged and the data is also automatically damaged.
I prefer to copy on paper and keep it in a vault, I think it's safer.

[wack slacker]

Seeds are easy to store as long as you are creative so that only you know how to retrieve them quickly. I often scatter them on social media by sending them out to my friends who are not crypto-savvy and I often miss 1 character.
I've printed them out and put them in the books on the shelf. I sent the restore script in the saved section in the Telegram app.
In many ways, we can keep the restorable 12-character string safe.

[shoreno]

Seeds are easy to store as long as you are creative so that only you know how to retrieve them quickly. I often scatter them on social media by sending them out to my friends who are not crypto-savvy and I often miss 1 character.
I've printed them out and put them in the books on the shelf. I sent the restore script in the saved section in the Telegram app.
In many ways, we can keep the restorable 12-character string safe.

you are indeed creative on storing your own seeds but i find it easy to stole  , sorry . you sure you know your friend ? what if they secretly learn a crypto  . once they are familiar with the seeds , they can easily guess the missing characters and open your wallet . you scatter them but what if they got curious and they pm your other friends to gather all the codes  . telegram is more risky than the first .  lastly , putting them in books can be easily discovered  . you might want to re locate them ?

[Potato Chips]

I heard of cryptosteel where its fireproof and floodproof so that works?  But isn't the issue if someone finds it, well its pretty easy to see oh why is there a bunch of long words and some ppl might even figure out its the seed to a wallet

You can set up accounts that can only be accessed if someone has the seed + passphrase (more about this: https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005214529-Advanced-Passphrase-options) which would divide your funds between non-passphrase protected and passphrase protected. Then you can make the former act as a dummy wallet in case of wrench attack or when someone gets ahold of your 24 seed backup, and there's a high chance they'll be convinced that's all you've got.

Not telling anyone you're holding cryptocoins also helps in minimizing physical attacks since thieves sets targets.

[ethereumhunter]

I never use dropbox or google drive my seed or another account because I don't want to be the hacker's next target. I prefer to save on my computer, which is not connected to the internet. When I want to access that data, I can use a LAN connection or use a flash disk drive to access. But I am thinking about using one place that I don't want to reveal to anyone except the closest people in my family, so I can know they can use the wallet when I am gone. But having a safety box will be a good idea because that can store all of the information that I have.

[jerry0]

The big issue i mentioned in my original post is... what if something happens to it physically.  Whether its a natural disaster or theft.  That is the main issue i have with writing it on a piece of paper.  Now obviously you write it into two or three parts... but do almost all of you leave that paper in one location?  I mean if you leave it in two locations, well you need to make sure you can access the other location.  Like what if something happens to that person you gave the other half seed to.



Someone mentioned they leave the other part of the seed in their vacation home.  Well... who lives in the vacation home when you are not there?  What if there is a natural disaster or theft?  Now what if the thief just takes a whole bunch of stuff and the seed paper is there.




I always felt like storing it digitally prevents all this from happening.  Someone else said... they type it in keepass... which is what I did.  But that person doesn't seem to say they upload it to the cloud.  Well if you don't... where is your keepass stored?  Only your laptop and a usb flash drive that is encrypted?  Because like the piece of paper, natural disaster or theft would destroy it.  But if you upload it to the cloud... well, hacker needs your username/password for it... then they need your master password for keepass.  Have there been cases of ppl who gotten their seed hacked by uploading it to the cloud using this method though?  All i heard was ppl just typing it in an email not encrypted... so if someone hack a person's email, well there is the code.  Now to take it a step further.  What about typing the seed in keepass and say encrypting keepass?  That way, hacker needs another password.  So they need your email/cloud username/password... then your encryption password for keepass... then finally your master password for keepass.  I mean... that would be multiple barriers.  But the odds of someone getting into all these parts would be way too hard right?

[peterpanda]

Since we keep a lot of valuable assets in our wallet, we should think about the protection of it.  I think it's better to write seed physically without leaving on online.  And if the amount of asset is more, we should exchange it to our fiat currency.

[Rengga Jati]

I wonder if I tell you where I store my seed in detail. I do not know you and probably it is not safe enough, to tell the truth. So, as the other said, I will give you common and general thoughts about it.

At least, there must be backup. I can't say what kind of backup you need to do. But you can do as follow:
1. In your email
2. Printed paper
3. Certain book
4. Image in data
5. Sent to other person contacts who is very trusted
6. Mke some code in your online and offline notes.

Actually, sending it to my mailbox is very risky because hackers can be there to pick it. However, it is just an option and ou need to pick the right one. 

[MShow]

Since we keep a lot of valuable assets in our wallet, we should think about the protection of it.  I think it's better to write seed physically without leaving on online.  And if the amount of asset is more, we should exchange it to our fiat currency.

Then the question arises of what to do with fiat money and where to store it

[sheenshane]

Someone mentioned they leave the other part of the seed in their vacation home.  Well... who lives in the vacation home when you are not there?  What if there is a natural disaster or theft?  Now what if the thief just takes a whole bunch of stuff and the seed paper is there.

We can use our common sense upon storing our Bitcoin seed to avoid all costs that you have been mentioned above. If you don't feel comfortable with the piece of paper where you wrote your key because of possible natural disasters, why did you not make a piece of thin metal that you can engrave your seed and a key to preventing natural disasters? There are certain ways upon keeping your seed and that's our responsibility to keep them safe.

About the theft, if you can afford to buy a huge Bitcoin amount for sure you can also afford to have security at home. We are now in modern technology at every household can afford to have CCTV cameras, I don't theft will not easily spot if you have this at home. You can buy also a large vault for all your valuable things including fiat for the theft can't easy get them. Next is set alarm system at home, anytime you will be warned if there is a theft.

In any problem, there's a solution if we will use our common sense.

[dothebeats]

I just store them on a piece of paper and making it look like it's just a couple of recipes from a cook book, a receipt from whatever I bought on a book store, and a to-do list that I'll never be able to complete due to the obscurity of the words listed in there. I have stored them as a Python file too on a flash drive and a device that I'm no longer using or connecting to the internet should I lose all these pieces of paper due to my carelessness or whatever reasons. I'm pretty much a non-techie guy so I don't dive into technical details for the most part, so I stick to basics and something that I know and I can manipulate very easily.

[Silberman]

So i only have the seed written on paper and put it in the house.  But of course things could happen like fire, floods etc.  So what is the best way to store your seed to prevent this?  I heard of cryptosteel where its fireproof and floodproof so that works?  But isn't the issue if someone finds it, well its pretty easy to see oh why is there a bunch of long words and some ppl might even figure out its the seed to a wallet?



Now if you write the seed in a notebook with a ton of stuff there, well that would be hard for someone to find.  Imagine like you have a notebook where you have the seed there but also in the first few pages write down like nursery school rhyme or children books and lot of stuff like that, well obviously it won't look like its important.

We have been talking about something similar in the Spanish section of the forum and the truth is that there is not a method that is 100% safe, you can go either for simplicity sacrificing some security in the process or you can go for a complex system that is more secure but that brings the risk that if something fails or you forget how to do something then you will not be able to recover your own coins, my system is very simple my seed words are on an old notebook which is full of notes so the seed words are not obvious at first sight and as a backup I use an encrypted USB in a different location, that way it is very unlikely that both backups will fail at the same time.

[jerry0]

So i only have the seed written on paper and put it in the house.  But of course things could happen like fire, floods etc.  So what is the best way to store your seed to prevent this?  I heard of cryptosteel where its fireproof and floodproof so that works?  But isn't the issue if someone finds it, well its pretty easy to see oh why is there a bunch of long words and some ppl might even figure out its the seed to a wallet?



Now if you write the seed in a notebook with a ton of stuff there, well that would be hard for someone to find.  Imagine like you have a notebook where you have the seed there but also in the first few pages write down like nursery school rhyme or children books and lot of stuff like that, well obviously it won't look like its important.

We have been talking about something similar in the Spanish section of the forum and the truth is that there is not a method that is 100% safe, you can go either for simplicity sacrificing some security in the process or you can go for a complex system that is more secure but that brings the risk that if something fails or you forget how to do something then you will not be able to recover your own coins, my system is very simple my seed words are on an old notebook which is full of notes so the seed words are not obvious at first sight and as a backup I use an encrypted USB in a different location, that way it is very unlikely that both backups will fail at the same time.

How do you encrypt your usb flash drive?  What program you use for it?  So whenever you plug the usb stick to your laptop, you need to put a password in order to open the file... correct?

[Bitcoinislife09]

One of my wallet seed is stored separately. I split the seed into 2 papers and I hid one under my phone case and one is in a text file on my pc encrypted with password that is saved and written in another piece of paper lot of work but makes me feel secured because I've been traumatized getting hijacked around 2bitcoins before.

That a good idea I think but seems risky if you lost your phone because you can't open your wallet anymore if you lost one of the copy. I think making multiple copies of the wallet seed is the best option in my opinion. Writing it in a paper is I think not bad personally I put all of my passwords in a personal notebook so that if I need to open a wallet or websites I just need to open the notebook and every password is written in that notebook. That still has some disadvantages but you could make another copy in a flash drive.

[Traderbtcc]

Unlike others who write down their seeds on papers,i really don't have time to write them down, so for me I normally store my seeds on a facebook, l use my first Facebook account to send the seed to the my second Facebook account, both accounts are being protected by two-factor authenticator (2FA), I also have several recovery codes which I can use to access them later just incase I lose my phone I can still be able to access both Facebook accounts with those recovery codes, then the screenshot of those recovery codes are been stored in the cloud on my google drive.

[hahay]

I only store them on a USB flash drive and not just on one flash drive at least I have more than two. Well, so far I have no significant problems even though my computer has been hit by a virus several times in the past, so that there was a notification after the incident about changing the password in the email and several other events that can still be resolved. I personally have never copied onto a paper with writing, because I feel it can make my own mistakes because in writing it is very possible to make mistakes about typos.

[pixie85]

I have mine in 2 different places. One of them is an old hard drive because they don't degrade as easily as USB drives and even in case of physical damage can be recovered. It's stored in a simple text file written somewhere between the lines and the file is hidden among other garbage files. You have to know the file name and use the search function, otherwise you'll be browsing for days.

The second copy is on a piece of paper, hidden somewhere a thief would not look.
Good spots for such things are for instance behind the baseboards or in a hole in the wall. Say you want to hang a tv on the wall. You drill one additional hole behind the metal plate, roll up the paper and put it in the hole, then cover it with the wall mount. Close to impossible to find even by a thorough burglar.

[milewilda]

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Unless if you do hold tons of BTC or coins then a metal plate or steel would be a good option if you do really mind off about being burnt or being erased when you wrote it on a paper.It depends on how you do break down those keys but be sure that you wont really forget on where you had placed or store those pieces because if you do then say goodbye to your coins.There are lots of ways to store it which had already been mentioned earlier by most members and also i dont really trust up cloud storages like googledrive or dropbox when storing up these kind of informations or even on my sole email, i wont consider this as an option.
Its better to wrote up those keys on a paper.

[Oceat]

Unlike others who write down their seeds on papers,i really don't have time to write them down, so for me I normally store my seeds on a facebook, l use my first Facebook account to send the seed to the my second Facebook account, both accounts are being protected by two-factor authenticator (2FA), I also have several recovery codes which I can use to access them later just incase I lose my phone I can still be able to access both Facebook accounts with those recovery codes, then the screenshot of those recovery codes are been stored in the cloud on my google drive.

Are you aware that you are already giving the seed to someone once you upload it on the internet. Saving your seed phrase in a plain text to Facebook is not a good idea even if you say you have a 2FA authenticator. Imagine how those top exchangers getting hack like the Binance itself. Hackers nowadays are getting smarter and wiser, plain text somehow can be search with their own application. Best way to hide it from everyone is to write it down on a piece of paper then hide that paper somewhere where you are the only person or someone you did trust know the location of it.

[MCobian]

Of course I store seeds in many places, just in case if the place to store seeds is burned or damaged, there is still a safe backup.
I like most people use paper to write seeds, and store it in a safe place, which only I know about. And I will not tell in this forum
where I save seeds that have been written on paper. For fear there are members of this forum who know me, and know where
I store my seeds.