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September 29, 2020, 08:02:47 PM
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You know what happens when an AI says "too much work"? Yep, humans have to do it.

So here is a list of the most referenced posts within Bitcointalk. A reference is a quote or a link inside a post (not e.g. in a signature). There is at least one known issue - because human - the first post of a thread is counted separately from a link to the thread without the "msg" part. That's how the rules topic appears at positions #2 and #4. (fixed)

Update 2020-10-02: Excluded references within the same thread, and references between the posts of the same user. This removed a lot of spammy threads. The original list is here.

Update 2020-10-04: Fixed a bug in finding the first post of the thread, which was causing the "posts of the same user" condition to not work in some cases.

Update 2020-10-12: Added "users" column to show the number of users who posted the link.
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  1  5375  1910 Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ
  2  3224  1695 Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 29-Sep-2020]
  3  2848  1746 Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?)   
  4  2673  1361 Merit & new rank requirements 
  5  2137   986 Recovering hacked accounts or accounts with lost passwords
  6  2069  1067 Bitcointalk Escrows - Trade Safely!   
  7  1759   848 How to sign a message?!   
  8  1410   471 Giveaway threads are not allowed
  9  1397   485 [EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK!     
 10  1201   502 Scam Report Format (Use it to make scam reports properly)     
 11  1142   703 Newbies - Read before posting 
 12  1136   725 Stake your Bitcoin address here
 13   954   666 Activity & new membergroup limits     
 14   924    74 [Future of Privacy] Ethereum Meta - Foundation of Anonymous e-Marketplace
 15   892   510 NEWBIE README
 16   875   370 Re: [EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan"  -----Updated Jan 26 2018-----     
 17   864   522 Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images
 18   819   347 Heoфициaльный cпиcoк oфициaльныx пpaвил     
 19   817   438 Recommended bitcointalk escrow services   
 20   791   515 Cиcтeмa paнгoв нa bitcointalk.org   
 21   753   360 ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆  Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment)  ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁
 22   729    88 Direct Dice - 10 BTC Jackpot ! Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dogecoin & Darkcoin !   
 23   719   421 Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements
 24   692   415 Escrow list   
 25   653   392 FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit
 26   648   364 [RULES] Peraturan Sub-Forum Indonesia dan FAQ   BACA SEBELUM POSTING!     
 27   641   337 [Ann]Vote New coins on Bter.com - Which new coin should Bter add in next week?
 28   635   482 Pizza for bitcoins?   
 29   590   320 Airdrop & Bounty   
 30   572   297 ⛓LIST⛓ BitcoinTalk's Escrow Providers: Ranking & Blacklist ☠ Avoid Scammers ☠   
 31   569   352 Marketplace trust   
 32   551   381 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 5.2 🌟 
 33   518   248 Beware of PayPal and other reversible transfer services 
 34   516   289 [General] Bitcoin Wallets - Which, what, why?   
 35   509   339 Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v14.7 (Windows/Linux)
 36   505   349 Vanitygen: Vanity bitcoin address generator/miner [v0.22]
 37   499   322 [ANN] sph-sgminer: multi-coin multi-algorithm GPU miner   added MaruCoin 
 38   493    54 Re: COINSBIT.IO SCAM EXCHANGE + PONZI SCHEME !!!
 39   490   247 Recovering hacked/lost accounts
 40   489   331 OFFICIAL CGMINER mining software thread for linux/win/osx/mips/arm/r-pi 4.11.1   
 41   488    56 كومبوسيت كوين : منصة المشروعات المبتكرة   
 42   487   318 Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign)
 43   485    55 انضم للعملة الرقمية الألمانية الأفضل
 44   476   256 [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org)   First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
 45   476   292 Merit - чтo этo и кaк этим пoльзoвaтьcя   
 46   475   287 [poll locked]i'll start a new post soon     
 47   465    74 BEWARE OF SUPER SCAM: P2PB2B claim to be worlds biggest exchange !
 48   463    61 Re: Proof that God exists
 49   457   263 [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency 
 50   456   299 Bagi NEWBIE / PEMULA : Level - Post - Activity - Signature - Waktu Naik Level   
 51   451   427 BTC or ETH in 2018
 52   447   277 [GUIDE] Sistem Rank, Activity, dan Merit   
 53   437   148 [ANN] [XMG] MAGI   CPU mining   mPoW   mPoS   [MagiPay]
 54   432    56 Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? 
 55   432   336 I AM HODLING 
 56   425   278 Welcome to the new Bitcoin forum!   
 57   419   247 TIL Activity does not work on precisely 2 week intervals + interval timings     
 58   416   252 Claymore's CryptoNote AMD GPU Miner v11.3   
 59   409   311 [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
 60   408   254 Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
 61   397    14 coinsbit.io has taken all my funds without any explanation, looks like SCAM   
 62   390   151 DefaultTrust changes     
 63   387    21 COINSBIT.IO EXCHANGE THREAD BOTS POSTING!!!
 64   381   233 [General] How to earn Bitcoins - Part 1   
 65   380    43 P2PB2B Scam!! Selling coins they don't have, wash trading, fraud and theft!   
 66   378   295 YoBit.Net - CRYPTOCURRENCY EXCHANGE & MultiCoin DICE - Free Coins every 1-24 hrs
 67   377    13 Re: [p2pb2b.io] The next generation cryptocurrency exchange [IEO (STO) for Startups]
 68   375     9 Re: An <COINSBIT.IO> Innovative Trading Cryptosystem   
 69   373     6 Re: COINSBIT.IO SCAM EXCHANGE + PONZI SCHEME !!!
 70   371    48 Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails     
 71   369   114 NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs 
 72   369   253 YoBit.Net - Signature Campaign - Realtime Payouts (daily)   
 73   368    28 p2pb2b.io has blocked my account without any explanation, looks like SCAM
 74   365    54 DirectBet Soccer Prediction Game *** Win Free Bets ! *** Free to Enter ! 
 75   364     7 BEWARE: Coinsbit Scammers Create Their Own Investbox (Yobit style)
 76   359   161 [FULL] ChipMixer Signature Campaign   Sr Member+   Up to 0.0375 BTC/w   
 77   355    31 [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange     
 78   350   245 ⚡ [ANN] ⚡ DeepOnion TOR ⚡ DeepVault ⚡ Cryptopia 🚀 Airdrop 24/40 🚀 WE DOMINATE!     
 79   349   212 [Q&A] Tanya Jawab Seputar Forum Disini/Ask about this forum here!   
 80   347    22 [SCAM ALERT!] b2bp2p exchange is stealing your money   
 81   345   269 List of bitcoin debit cards   
 82   340   261 [ANN] SebastianJu - Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC   
 83   340   197 [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Jr. Member s.d Hero)[UPDATE]   
 84   337   231 ★☆★ 777Coin Signature Campaign ★☆★ Earn up to .0007/Post (Newb-Hero Welcome)   
 85   337    21 Re: [FRK] Gift Giveaway! Crypto is freedom, Franko is family.
 86   334   153 Trust flags 
 87   318    35 [ANN] Meet the people making Crypto mainstream  
 88   315   187 Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney)     
 89   310    72 [ANN][COVAL] Circuits Of Value - Introducing the Emblem Vault Sidechain 
 90   310    16 [SCAM ALERT!] p2pb2b exchange provides your personal data to third parties     
 91   310    17 @ mods:    Requesting Bans For COINSBIT Sock-Puppets   
 92   310   174 [ACTIVE BOUNTY][ANN] OAX - Real World Application of Decentralized Exchanges   
 93   307    10 p2pb2b scam 
 94   306    74 🚀 [e-Chat] OFFICIAL BOUNTY TOPIC 🚀 BONUS ROUND  🚀  
 95   305    10 Beware of the P2Pb2b exchange 
 96   301    34 DirectBet Basketball Prediction Game *** Win Free Bets ! *** Free to Enter !   
 97   301     7 P2PB2B listed tagz scam exchange project P2pB2B Scam Alert! 
 98   300     7 P2PB2B deadly scam exchange    
 99   299     5 P2PB2B exchange in trouble and showing signs of insolvency   
100   299   203 CoinJoin: Bitcoin privacy for the real world
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September 30, 2020, 12:44:02 AM
Last edit: September 30, 2020, 12:55:30 AM by icopress
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Nice work, it would be great if someone took it upon themselves to merge all the blacklists and existing alt/scam/red-bases into one.

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September 30, 2020, 02:25:47 AM
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So here is a list of the most referenced posts within Bitcointalk. A reference is a quote or a link inside a post (not e.g. in a signature). There is at least one known issue - because human - the first post of a thread is counted separately from a link to the thread without the "msg" part.                      
Nice data set suchmoon. Does it count even the quoted message post or thread, has been labeled as snipped or only those with contain message inside?

How do you able to configure this anyway? It seems a tough work to know which post or message has been quoted. Really an AI job.


So this post is the highest quoted post?

Bitfinex

Explanation

Explanation
Chartbuddy provides a chart which shows the change of the market depth with time.

Chart shows the market depth for the last hour, the beginning of the hour at the back, latest time at the front. The bids (what people are willing to pay) stack up on the left and the asks (what people are wanting to get paid) stack up on the right.

A depth chart indicates how much it would conceivably take to shift the price. Note that orders can be cancelled so judgement should be applied. Large orders produce a large vertical part on the chart or a "wall". By watching how walls are added, moved or removed, it is possible to make a judgement of market sentiment (or arguably just observe attempts at market manipulation).

The large numbers at the top are the latest values for the closest bids and asks. The difference between these is the "spread".

World times are also listed for several major cities.
Interesting. When I clicked the number 1 I thought why WO is popping, and the number 1 spot falls to a very quality response.

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September 30, 2020, 02:40:15 AM
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Nice data set suchmoon. Does it count even the quoted message post or thread, has been labeled as snipped or only those with contain message inside?

Any quote counts, as long as it links to a valid Bitointalk post URL. It doesn't matter if it was edited/trimmed. Also just posting a plain link counts too, e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279037.msg55287074#msg55287074

How do you able to configure this anyway? It seems a tough work to know which post or message has been quoted. Really an AI job.

I had a bunch of posts indexed for plagiarism search a while ago. LoyceV and TryNinja have similar datasets too.

So this post is the highest quoted post?

Yeah it's kinda "cheating", looks like some sort of a bot that was posting charts and linking back to the first post. I think #2 is a more genuine top-referenced post.
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I had a bunch of posts indexed for plagiarism search a while ago. LoyceV and TryNinja have similar datasets too.
I know my database is very incomplete and many posts from this year are missing, but I'm surprised it is giving me way less results than it should (according to your numbers).

For example, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1875364 has only 21 results (vs your 837) if I paste the entire URL in the "content" field and make a search on https://ninjastic.space/search

Could you take a look for an example of a post my website should be returning? I think it's because it only returns posts where the URL is explicitly found in the post (and not just quoted).

edit: I guess that's the case.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1875364 returns this post (because I mentioned the link above).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279037 doesn't returns this post (because I only quoted your post on the topic).

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September 30, 2020, 03:13:46 AM
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I know my database is very incomplete and many posts from this year are missing, but I'm surprised it is giving me way less results than it should (according to your numbers).

For example, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1875364 has only 21 results (vs your 837) if I paste the entire URL in the "content" field and make a search on https://ninjastic.space/search

Could you take a look for an example of a post my website should be returning? I think it's because it only return posts where the URL can be found explicitly in the post (and not just quoted).

Yes, that must be it. I think you mentioned that tags are stripped from your data before it's indexed so it means href attribute values are not being searched.
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A very interesting topic indeed.
But there are some limitations. I think some of the threads have been listed here due to being quoted in the thread itself. I mean there are some megathreads where OP has been quoted a few hundreds times and thus it has got a place in this top 100 list.
You would better exclude the quotation in the thread itself. I mean the quotation in the thread itself refers to no good other than replying the OP, so what's the point keeping that quotation and ranking it  Cheesy
Anyway, it was really a great work.

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You would better exclude the quotation in the thread itself. I mean the quotation in the thread itself refers to no good other than replying the OP, so what's the point keeping that quotation and ranking it  Cheesy

It's a good point and I might do it later but it's a bit more work due to the way my data was structured.
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You know what happens when an AI says "too much work"? Yep, humans have to do it.
but it's a bit more work
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I think some of the threads have been listed here due to being quoted in the thread itself. I mean there are some megathreads where OP has been quoted a few hundreds times and thus it has got a place in this top 100 list.
I typed the same thing before I read your post. This topic for example shouldn't be in the list.

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September 30, 2020, 10:36:58 AM
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So this post is the highest quoted post?

Yeah it's kinda "cheating", looks like some sort of a bot that was posting charts and linking back to the first post. I think #2 is a more genuine top-referenced post.

If it is "kinda cheating" bro I think the right one for the #1 sport is your #2 which is the Overview of Signature-ad campaigns in Bitcointalk. I have no surprise here that this thread and the thread for our unofficial rules will be sharing the top spot since they are mostly mentioned in either meta or the beginner section of the forum as they are frequently asked a lot. For the #1 spot I haven't come across this post at all, it's the first time I have seen this post and I have not seen anyone mentioning this to the forum.
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But there are some limitations. I think some of the threads have been listed here due to being quoted in the thread itself. I mean there are some megathreads where OP has been quoted a few hundreds times and thus it has got a place in this top 100 list.
You would better exclude the quotation in the thread itself. I mean the quotation in the thread itself refers to no good other than replying the OP, so what's the point keeping that quotation and ranking it  Cheesy

I have updated the list in the OP. It now excludes references within the same thread, as well as references between the posts of the same user.

Made other tweaks related mainly to how I was previously sometimes incorrectly eliminating duplicates. There are still some weird threads in there, some in foreign languages so I'm not sure what's going on there. Perhaps they are that popular.
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I have updated the list in the OP. It now excludes references within the same thread, as well as references between the posts of the same user.
Nice work though, no need to bookmark each thread anymore to give reference in the future.Just bookmarking this thread will be enough. Cool Smark worker!

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I will go through all the links one by one and try to list the inappropriate referenced links here with a possible valid explanation. Threads are not quoted here mean they are helpful enough or popular enough to be referenced by many users.

I was not able to find any particular reason for this thread to be in the most referenced list. Why such a thread would be referenced 1660 times. No valid explanation.

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A not so popular gambling site has been referenced 729 times? It seems like they had created a lot of giveaways back in the day. One of their sponsored giveaway thread has 99 pages of reply. It makes sense how they come at the most referenced list although I don't like the reason at all.

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Not sure but it seems lik bter.com was an early exchange which used to list a lot of altcoins. As they had voting contest in this thread, many altcoin projects had mentioned the thread in their corresponding ANN thread to get some vote from their community. A search with bter gives me 5 pages of result.

 
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Can you believe all the reference were given by the OP of that thread? I have checked all of his post and most of them were all about-
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Here you go, I told you. It's the same user of Dota2 and this is the thread I was expecting to get  Grin

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Same user. I didn't expect another of his thread. Well, he himself is the referrer of all these three threads.


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No particular reason I can find out unless the quote in the thread itself but that's not the case of course as you said.

Rest are coming soon.

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What's with p2pb2b scam? It has 148 views but 307 references?
TryNinja finds only one hit.

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October 03, 2020, 09:18:20 AM
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What's with p2pb2b scam? It has 148 views but 307 references?
TryNinja finds only one hit.
I think TryNinja missed that. For example he missed this one- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192497.msg54992149#msg54992149
This has been quoted a few times too. So, all these quotes also count.
I have tried searching with p2pb2b scam and found a lot of search result which makes me think that it has been mentioned by a lot of users for pointing that p2pb2b is a scam and thus it makes sense why it is in the list.

Edit- If you search with the topic id which is 5190513, you will find the direct url references of that thread. And the rest references are keyword based I think.

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Last edit: October 03, 2020, 12:46:45 PM by TryNinja
 #16

What's with p2pb2b scam? It has 148 views but 307 references?
TryNinja finds only one hit.
I found the issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190513 returns 1.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190513.0 returns 306.

I will see if there is a better way to make my tool return all of them on the first search.

edit: It should work better now.

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Sweet. I'm excited that I actually have one post from that list, though I can't believe it was quoted 373 times. Something tells me tomorrow I'll be doing some investigating, or figuring out how to best go into hiding, one or the other...


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I believe it's safe to remove these links too:

They are links to translated ANN threads and their OPs post them in all bounty campaigns as references to their previous work (portfolio).


Update 2020-10-02: Excluded references within the same thread, and references between the posts of the same user. This removed a lot of spammy threads.
If the bolded part is true and the script you used is working perfectly, then either OPs apply for translation jobs with their alts or a fraudster is using their portfolios.
For example, the OP of post #40 was cryptobaccar and he has an alt baccar who shared that link multiple times. Not sure about the other links, though.

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So here is a list of the most referenced posts within Bitcointalk.
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 10   1315  [EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK! 


I like your list much batter than Loyce's, who claimed I wasn't even in the top 100.  Tongue

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