USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over

[kryptqnick]

Well, more than 3 years later, we can analyse the op's wild allegation. The USA is still number one economically and politically, although it's losing some ground politically, I believe, as we're moving towards a multipolar world. Economically, China is still #2, and still has a pretty long way to go to beat the US, not to mention that there seem to be some economic struggles that are just starting for China. France is a little over 10% of what the US has, so it's just ridiculous to say that it can beat the US economically. Russia and France are in pretty bad relations, probably the worst over a long time, because of the full-scale invasion of Russia into Ukraine.

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[Cryptomultiplier]

Well, more than 3 years later, we can analyse the op's wild allegation. The USA is still number one economically and politically, although it's losing some ground politically, I believe, as we're moving towards a multipolar world. Economically, China is still #2, and still has a pretty long way to go to beat the US, not to mention that there seem to be some economic struggles that are just starting for China. France is a little over 10% of what the US has, so it's just ridiculous to say that it can beat the US economically. Russia and France are in pretty bad relations, probably the worst over a long time, because of the full-scale invasion of Russia into Ukraine.

It shocked me.when I saw how long this post has been and it proves a powerful point that only the time has told.
Three years later and the world was shook by Covid 19 virus and we are still seeing a new world order in the form of the BRICS countries and their intended use of the  Chinese Yen as the official currency. More countries are joining and their territory expanding to sooth its goal.

Well, the USA is still the economic boss and the dollar has more than thrashed my own countries currency into the gutter. With exchange rates now higher than before, the Russian invasion of Ukraine which led to war and changed the relationship between countries, is but a least of how much is happening around the world mostly as regards new alliances being formed between businesses and corporate bodies as well as political positions.

[Cookdata]

Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.

You are not saying facts here because I don't see any source to all what you have said so far. You think because of this, France has the jaw to be the next leading country after US? You are overwhelmed with what you are reading online but let me burst your bubble, US is way smart than you will ever think of, they are 3 step ahead of everyone in this leading games and it's not everything the do you will see online, forget all th things you watch on TV, what they do is more than what they show you.

During war, golf reserve might not do much except for military acquisition but what is their army going to feed on. Don't you know that if you want to win your opponents in a war faster, the first thing is too block their source of food and water, I'm sure US strive well by modern farming and agriculture, I don't know for France aside from football.

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!

Putin was ones a passionate friend with the US and they still do but they are base on mutual agreement between them, nobody break it but it doesn't stop each of them from making friends from other country, it's just that Russia doesn't see your enemies as their enemies. They will gladly make any link up and agreement to benefit them, they can join France like you said but for their own benefit, nothing more than this.

[0t3p0t]

What a load of crap. What is up with all these threads these days stating that USA isn't at the top anymore and it has been replaced by China, France etc? It's like people from different countries are trying to promote their own countries taking advantage of the pandemic.

I am not an American citizen, but even I understand the clear truth which is the USA can't be kicked off the top that easily. They have been at the top of the pyramid for multiple reasons and that probably won't change anytime soon.

Yeah exactly. I am not from the USA as well but based on the current event it is undoubtedly that the US will still be at the top for the next generation to come. Just recently Chinese president admitted some sort of difficulty issues on their country.

Some enterprises had a tough time. Some people had difficulty finding jobs and meeting basic needs...
-Xi Jinping

Link: https://www.businessinsider.com/china-economy-gdp-xi-jinping-admits-tough-time-enterprises-jobs-2024-1?amp

With regards to France, it shows that France's economy is one of the worlds largest and strongest as stated here on this article please see for reference:

Link: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/france#country-ranking-details

[Kakmakr]

How sure are you about that?

The annual GDP growth rate of France is only 6.8% and the government debt is 98.1% of GDP.

I cannot see how a country that are mostly boosted by tourism income, can be the strongest economy in the world?

The only thing that might help them are the foreign trade, because the value of the imports and exports comprise of 63% of their country's GDP.

Edit : I only saw now that this thread was started in 2020... 🙄

[Abiky]

Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

The USA's downfall was long predicted by economic experts. Empires don't last forever, after all. Take a look at how Rome went from being a "glorious empire" to "rubble" after a few centuries. The same can happen with the US, paving the way for another country (a superpower) to take over the world. While France has taken measures to solidify its diplomatic and economic stance worldwide, I don't think it's capable of leading the way for a "new world order".

China is more suited for this, especially when it's currently the world's second-largest economy. It has strong relations with Russia, and Arab countries. Most of the things we use today are produced in China itself. Imagine what impact will China have in the world with the CNY as the leading world currency. The USA's days are numbered as countries accelerate "de-dollarization" efforts. Who knows how long will it take for the complete downfall of American hegemony?

[DrBeer]

The USA's downfall was long predicted by economic experts. Empires don't last forever, after all. Take a look at how Rome went from being a "glorious empire" to "rubble" after a few centuries. The same can happen with the US, paving the way for another country (a superpower) to take over the world. While France has taken measures to solidify its diplomatic and economic stance worldwide, I don't think it's capable of leading the way for a "new world order".

China is more suited for this, especially when it's currently the world's second-largest economy. It has strong relations with Russia, and Arab countries. Most of the things we use today are produced in China itself. Imagine what impact will China have in the world with the CNY as the leading world currency. The USA's days are numbered as countries accelerate "de-dollarization" efforts. Who knows how long will it take for the complete downfall of American hegemony?

I was born in the USSR
And all my life, every day on the news, I heard the mantras: "The West is rotting and degenerating", "The dollar is worthless", "The Western economy is not competitive", "Capitalism is totalitarianism and oppression of the common people", "Very soon we will see the collapse of the USA", "Very soon we will see the collapse of the Western world".... I was told this in school in history and poltiinformation, every week, for all 120 years

And do you know how it all ended ? 

[Casdinyard]

Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

It's been years and while America is definitely weakening I don't see this "America is losing to x country" narrative.

Every country's struggling right now, even those that we think could contend against USA like China. It's say that it's almost to the point of propagandism that we're seeing stuff like this and it grinds my gears cause just like the "bitcoin is dead" notion it's like every time we see something go wrong with America we immediately assume it's gonna fall next year or whatever. As I said, there's clear signs of struggle on the US's side and it's likely that within our lifetimes we see them handing over the superpower crown to another country, but to immediately assume with specific timeframes that it's going to fall to this country or that state is just a bit annoying at this point lol.

Russia's in no position to set a war against the west when they can't even finish the war they started against Ukraine, Israel's busy fighting Palestine, The EU is dealing with their own problems that they can't even fix themselves, China housing and economic bubble is expected to pop anytime soon, Japan's economy is dwindling and so does its birth rate, and people in that country are killing themselves, while US is left to fend off for itself but it doesn't matter when the whole world is burning anyways.

[Abiky]

It's been years and while America is definitely weakening I don't see this "America is losing to x country" narrative.

Every country's struggling right now, even those that we think could contend against USA like China. It's say that it's almost to the point of propagandism that we're seeing stuff like this and it grinds my gears cause just like the "bitcoin is dead" notion it's like every time we see something go wrong with America we immediately assume it's gonna fall next year or whatever. As I said, there's clear signs of struggle on the US's side and it's likely that within our lifetimes we see them handing over the superpower crown to another country, but to immediately assume with specific timeframes that it's going to fall to this country or that state is just a bit annoying at this point lol.

Russia's in no position to set a war against the west when they can't even finish the war they started against Ukraine, Israel's busy fighting Palestine, The EU is dealing with their own problems that they can't even fix themselves, China housing and economic bubble is expected to pop anytime soon, Japan's economy is dwindling and so does its birth rate, and people in that country are killing themselves, while US is left to fend off for itself but it doesn't matter when the whole world is burning anyways.

I believe America will fall at a slow and steady pace. It might take 1-2 decades before this happens. As you've said before, the USA is not the only country that's having trouble. Other countries are also struggling to get their economy back on its feet. Rising geopolitical tensions will only slow down the process of a global recovery.

Whichever country manages to act wisely, will be the one that will take the reigns as the leading superpower in the future. It could be China, Russia, or the EU. We can't tell for sure what will happen in the long run. One would think a US downfall would result in catastrophic consequences for the whole world. Especially when most countries are tied to the USD. The shift to a new world order will be painful. But it will happen whenever you like it or not. I'd accumulate as much BTC and Gold as possible before "all hell breaks loose". Who knows what lies ahead for human society? 

[DrBeer]

Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!

By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

I re-read it again, tell me, I got a version that you are preparing a set of speeches for April 1
Seriously !

I have no complaints about France, moreover, I really like this country, and I have been there often before, I especially like the French province. I even studied French at school and college

But making such statements, also dragging in Russia, and positioning France as a new world leader is, to put it mildly, not very serious.

It seems to me that you need to study the real situation in France and the other countries you listed, and reformulate your thought

[pooya87]

By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

This is a good example of how passage of time proves a lot of stuff.

It's a silly topic created by someone 4 years ago thinking in a year France could be the biggest whatever. 3 years is past from that deadline and French situation is worse that it was in 2020. France national debt has grown by more than a trillion, with $770 billion difference between GDP and the debt and rising.
Don't even get me started on French military

By the way, there is nothing wrong with being wrong. The problem is if you didn't learn from your mistakes...

[Argoo]

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Will Putin join France very soon? This cannot be even theoretically. Putin, as the president of Russia, wants to have geopolitical influence on European countries, including France. He started the war against Ukraine ultimately for this purpose. Now France and Germany are very actively helping Ukraine defend itself from Russian aggression. Therefore, there can be no alliances between France and Russia in the near future, especially in the military sphere.

As for the United States, in my opinion, it is unlikely to lose its position as a world leader in the near future. And France is not a very strong rival for the United States in this regard.

[smelody]

It's very significant and alarming about USA diplomatic power are gradually down. Now a day their policy does't work in development country. reason is clear. Around the world they are making useless policy that have opposite the mankind. yes till today they are the super power in the world. They are losting their image and support in cause of war and basically they are supporting Israel putting genocide in Palestine. How do you support the genocide that goes on in Palestine? Even they could have stopped the fighters of Ukraine and Russia if they wanted, but they did not. Recently France taken some policy between developed good relations with many countries of the world given their diplomatic approach and this will increase their power.

[Litzki1990]

When a country has a good diplomatic relationship with another country, the two countries will be economically prosperous due to the good relationship between the two countries. Before the Russia and Ukraine war, Russia was able to establish good diplomatic relations with most of the countries in the world due to which their economic status was quite strong, although now some sanctions have damaged their diplomatic relations with some countries. USA is one of the most powerful countries economically but due to political issues, diplomatic relations with many countries have been damaged due to which their economy has some impact as a business. 
The French government is trying to increase their trade and they have established new diplomatic relations with some new countries.  Since they have the largest number of countries to do business with and have the richest reserve fund, it is only natural that they will be the strongest economic country at one time.

[serveria.com]

Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france!  
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!!  
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

Frankly, I don't see France becoming a global leader in foreseeable future. The only country which could do it in the next 20-50years is China. Yes, China is also plagued with problems nowadays, but which country isn't?

Actually France doesn't excel in any area at the moment: they have huge taxes, immigration issues, aging population, low military potential. Gold reserves and diplomacy won't help much, France needs some deeper reform before it can become a global leader.    

[Mauser]

Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.

Maybe I missed something, but there is no way that France is going to overtake the USA as military and economic superpower. It's true that France did relatively well after the covid pandemic, but we need to look at it from their starting positions. France is one a completely different level from USA, they are not even close to be a real threat. Just look at all the political madness happening right now. The farmers are protesting and closed of Toulouse completely and I don't see Macron ending this any time soon. Than the whole immigration mess in Paris. Also, remember the strike of the garbage collectors letting Paris sink in trash? As soon as France reaches a higher level of economic output the population will demand higher social spending. So, relatively to other countries France might be doing really well, but overtaking the USA is just not realistic in my opinion. France is just a much smaller country with less people than the USA, an alliance with Canada is not going to change much on that.

[Fullbear2222]

Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

We here now and again your predictions Went true france now very active Even in ukraine situation.
How did you know so many accurate things ??

[Fortify]

Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.

Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.

The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

Congrats, there are many big contenders here in this section, but that has to be one of the dumbest things written in the economic part of the forum so far this year. France did have a long and illustrious history, that is no doubt and very admirable, however they are no where near a contender to countries like the USA or China. Frances power now comes from being part of a strong European Union, which has plenty of chance to be the strongest trading bloc on the planet. The USA seems to be in a bit of a moral decline at the moment with Republicans chipping away at so many well established and sensible laws, just because they have the backing of idiots. China had a bright future until Xi Dimping came along and decided to go back to authoritarian self destruction.

[Hispo]

Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.

Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.

The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

Congrats, there are many big contenders here in this section, but that has to be one of the dumbest things written in the economic part of the forum so far this year. France did have a long and illustrious history, that is no doubt and very admirable, however they are no where near a contender to countries like the USA or China. Frances power now comes from being part of a strong European Union, which has plenty of chance to be the strongest trading bloc on the planet. The USA seems to be in a bit of a moral decline at the moment with Republicans chipping away at so many well established and sensible laws, just because they have the backing of idiots. China had a bright future until Xi Dimping came along and decided to go back to authoritarian self destruction.

I don't even know why Op would pick up France as an emerging superpower in the planet when they do not have as many energy resources or economical volume as other countries like China or the United States do. I am not in any way, shape or form trying to under-estimate France, it is a country which certainly do much of its part on making the European Union an important block of countries which moves much money across the planet, but one cannot simply expect France to become more relevant than countries which are several times bigger than her and move hundreds of times more money and merchandise than her, the only branch which France can easily beat China, would be tourism.

Also, I could be wrong, but as far as I recall China was in her way to become a cyber-dictatorship way before Xi Jinping became the General Security of the Chinese Communist Party. He just happens to be a politician pretty much in favor of controlling the whole population of the country through the use of technology, like biometrics, which is very scary.

[Briankimp1]

Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

Going through this thread and realizing the time duration it only affirms the dominance of the United States even more, as at 2022 America had over a hundred thousand plus active military personnel’s over a hundred and seventy countries around the world, they are currently the major supporters of Ukraine in their war against Russia the Ukraine president has said if the American aid stops they would loose the war.

This only goes to further prove the dominance of the Americans globally there’s always been a cry by other global powerhouses trying to lay claim of the title world leader but there are just too many ways the US has the upper hand to be Frank the dollar isn’t doing so great in the global market especially due to the creation of Brics which has aided China and Russian the most economically now for the first time in a long time countries are trading in currencies beside the U.S. dollar for example for the first time in 48years Saudi Arabia is trading in currencies beside the U.S. dollar.
I believe we might only get the see America weak but beneath that weakness will come a planned uproar from the world’s leading country once again time will tell...