[LIST] Gambling sites with internal exchange

[decodx]

Primedice.com	BTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, TRX, EOS	N/A		Buy crypto via MoonPay
Stake.com	BTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, TRX, EOS	N/A		Buy crypto via MoonPay

I am not able to find any internal exchanging feature with primedice and stake anymore. Do I miss anything regarding this? I am aware of their ranking system like higher end features are accessible/visible to only VIP gamblers but I remember I was able to use exchanging features but not right now.

If it is confirmed that primedice and stake are no more supporting the exchange feature then I guess OP might need an update to reflect the latest. Thank you.

No, there is no internal exchange on primedice and stake casinos. You can only buy crypto via MoonPay, and also, as stated in the OP, exchange coins using the third party service dinabot.exchange. I think that's exactly why Stake and Primedice are in the "Special Case" category.

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[perla]

It is a good functionality to offer that on the sites. You also see that more and more sites are responding to this. I am curious if you then have to deal with limits and the like, and all kinds of other verifications. That could still be a problem. In prospect, there are enough exchanges, then a gambling site would not even need that.

[decodx]

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In prospect, there are enough exchanges, then a gambling site would not even need that.

In my opinion, internal exchanges on gambling sites are in no way a substitute or alternative for traditional centralized exchanges. The purpose is to give players an easy option to convert different cryptocurrencies within the exchange, depending on the user's preferences, and to avoid the need to withdraw funds to external services and re-deposit them. As long as gambling sites accept different cryptocurrencies for deposits and withdrawals, there will always be a need for an internal exchange.

[AmoreJaz]

Primedice.com	BTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, TRX, EOS	N/A		Buy crypto via MoonPay
Stake.com	BTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, TRX, EOS	N/A		Buy crypto via MoonPay

I am not able to find any internal exchanging feature with primedice and stake anymore. Do I miss anything regarding this? I am aware of their ranking system like higher end features are accessible/visible to only VIP gamblers but I remember I was able to use exchanging features but not right now.

If it is confirmed that primedice and stake are no more supporting the exchange feature then I guess OP might need an update to reflect the latest. Thank you.

No, there is no internal exchange on primedice and stake casinos. You can only buy crypto via MoonPay, and also, as stated in the OP, exchange coins using the third party service dinabot.exchange. I think that's exactly why Stake and Primedice are in the "Special Case" category.

that's correct. they don't have internal exchange per se. the reason why it is under special case category.

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In prospect, there are enough exchanges, then a gambling site would not even need that.

In my opinion, internal exchanges on gambling sites are in no way a substitute or alternative for traditional centralized exchanges. The purpose is to give players an easy option to convert different cryptocurrencies within the exchange, depending on the user's preferences, and to avoid the need to withdraw funds to external services and re-deposit them. As long as gambling sites accept different cryptocurrencies for deposits and withdrawals, there will always be a need for an internal exchange.

also, make sure to read the ToS of the casino before using the casino as some sort of mixer. some requires wagering requirements or at least place a bet/play, before you can withdraw your deposit. because some people will use the casino to "mix" their coins for privacy purposes.
the common use of internal exchange within the casino is to convert your preferred alt to another alt with relatively low tx fees or depends on the need of the user.

[blockman]

I am not able to find any internal exchanging feature with primedice and stake anymore. Do I miss anything regarding this? I am aware of their ranking system like higher end features are accessible/visible to only VIP gamblers but I remember I was able to use exchanging features but not right now.

If it is confirmed that primedice and stake are no more supporting the exchange feature then I guess OP might need an update to reflect the latest. Thank you.

There's note on the category of primedice and stake and that's why I think it's fine to be on that category of this list.

It is a good functionality to offer that on the sites. You also see that more and more sites are responding to this. I am curious if you then have to deal with limits and the like, and all kinds of other verifications. That could still be a problem. In prospect, there are enough exchanges, then a gambling site would not even need that.

There are limits for the amount and that will depend on the account tier that you have for some of the casinos. But AFAIK, most of them have the same limits whether you get a high tier account or not. It depends on the casino where you're going to use that feature of exchange. For the most that are listed on the OP, it's noted that they don't require kyc.

[Vaskiy]

Primedice.com	BTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, TRX, EOS	N/A		Buy crypto via MoonPay
Stake.com	BTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, TRX, EOS	N/A		Buy crypto via MoonPay

I am not able to find any internal exchanging feature with primedice and stake anymore. Do I miss anything regarding this? I am aware of their ranking system like higher end features are accessible/visible to only VIP gamblers but I remember I was able to use exchanging features but not right now.

If it is confirmed that primedice and stake are no more supporting the exchange feature then I guess OP might need an update to reflect the latest. Thank you.

No, there is no internal exchange on primedice and stake casinos. You can only buy crypto via MoonPay, and also, as stated in the OP, exchange coins using the third party service dinabot.exchange. I think that's exactly why Stake and Primedice are in the "Special Case" category.

Right now it has got only the buying access through third party service. Earlier it had got the swapping access with which it is possible to change from one coin to other deducting certain amount as fee. This internal exchange has got certain amount limitations, without which swapping isn't possible. Now there is difficulty of withdrawing to specific exchange and then convert it to the choice of the users.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Thank you very much for the thread, the truth is that I had not come across this gold mine, a long time ago I was looking for this list on google.com, of course it was in a moment of emergency and then my mind does not occur to me that I have checked the forum It should be noted that now Stake.com has a very good withdrawal rate, my last withdrawal only charged me 7 thousand sats. which did not seem expensive to me, I think the low fees mean there is not much need to use an internal exchange, however I have a friend in Spain who was looking for online casinos that could deposit in TRX and ADA to play and then him withdraw your earnings (if any) to BTC.

I think many of gambling platforms on this forum has similar features just like you have mentioned which they all have their different rate. This features had help many more gamblers like myself to withdraw in other different coin which is different from the deposited token.

I think you mean that the platform has an internal exchange, and that is a great option because from BTC you transfer it quickly to LTC, TRX or any crypto that has a low fee rate, apart from there are other platforms that you can transfer your deposit to A native token of the casino to play and bet and to withdraw you can pass it to any other currency that you like to make the transaction.

There is also the option of coin staking, the more you have native tokens you generate passive income in other stronger currencies, as is the case with Betfury.

[AmoreJaz]

Thank you very much for the thread, the truth is that I had not come across this gold mine, a long time ago I was looking for this list on google.com, of course it was in a moment of emergency and then my mind does not occur to me that I have checked the forum It should be noted that now Stake.com has a very good withdrawal rate, my last withdrawal only charged me 7 thousand sats. which did not seem expensive to me, I think the low fees mean there is not much need to use an internal exchange, however I have a friend in Spain who was looking for online casinos that could deposit in TRX and ADA to play and then him withdraw your earnings (if any) to BTC.

I think many of gambling platforms on this forum has similar features just like you have mentioned which they all have their different rate. This features had help many more gamblers like myself to withdraw in other different coin which is different from the deposited token.

I think you mean that the platform has an internal exchange, and that is a great option because from BTC you transfer it quickly to LTC, TRX or any crypto that has a low fee rate, apart from there are other platforms that you can transfer your deposit to A native token of the casino to play and bet and to withdraw you can pass it to any other currency that you like to make the transaction.

There is also the option of coin staking, the more you have native tokens you generate passive income in other stronger currencies, as is the case with Betfury.

not many casinos here are offering internal exchange. also, take note that some are requiring certain level before you can use their internal exchange, like in bitsler or you need at least wager your deposit at least once because you can't deposit and withdraw without betting at all. some casinos are avoiding the instances that the player will just use their casino as some type of a mixer.
and because we are already in 2022, time to review again the list and am seeing new casinos but haven't checked their cashier section if they are offering this exchange section.

[AmoreJaz]

just added bitkong.com. i saw that this casino has been years in gambling business but just encounter their thread as someone refresh its page.
they have long list of fiat payment options here. one of the long list that ive seen so far.


site link : https://bitkong.com/
ANN thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1214505.0
supported crypto : BTC, BTC (BSC), BUSD, ETH, BCH, BNB, DAI, DASH, LTC, MATIC, USDT, USDC, WBTC, XRP
supported fiat : USD, ARS, AMD, AUD, AZN, BDT, BRL, GBP, CAD, CNY, DKK, EUR, GEL, HKD, INR, IDR, ILS, JPY, KES, MYR, MXN, NZD, NOK, PKR, PHP, PLN, RUB, SGD, KRW, SEK, CHF, THB, TRY, AED

KYC : No , but if you are dealing with fiat, high likely that they require your credentials here.

found the review of btcgosu here -

https://www.btcgosu.com/review/bitkong/

[Mahdirakib]

BetHash is an old casino, and they have an internal exchange service too. I just noticed it on their website. Personally I don't have any experience of using their internal exchange service, but someone has mentioned in the past that BetHash exchange service remains empty occasionally.

Has anyone ever had experience a gambling casino that has to add funds into their exchange and coincidentally found out your swap didn't get through because the exchange has no funds in their internal exchange?  I have experienced this on Bethash.io

Anyway, here is the details of BetHash internal currency exchange service.
site link : BetHash
supported crypto : BTC, ETH, TRX, EOS, USDT, HASH (Token)
eff. exchange fee, % : 2

[Pmalek]

Hi AmoreJaz,

Chips.gg also has a swaps feature on their casino. It's available at the following link: https://chips.gg/landing?modal=Rewards&tab=swap.
The fees depend on the rank of the player.

You can add this to your table if you want.

[Mahdirakib]

@AmoreJaz, you are active in the forum, but I'm wondering why you haven't updated the information in the table which has been provided by Pmalek. Aren't you following your thread on a regular basis?

BTW, remove BetJA.com from the table. The website isn't available anymore.
Have you heard about NanoGames.io? The website is similar to bc.game. NanoGames has internal exchange system too.

site link : NanoGames
supported crypto : BTC, ETH, BNB, LTC, DOGE, TRX, BANANO, USDT, NANO, NND (Token), NNL (Token)
eff. exchange fee, % : Same as Bc.game

[Mr. Magkaisa]

- I just noticed some gambling games in the ones you listed Sir because I often play on the wintomato platform, and the altcoins I use to play are dogecoin, litecoin and the fiat stablecoin is usdt. Now I'm just wondering here on the wintomato platform, if you use altcoins to play and when I withdraw, the withdrawal fee is cheap, but when the usdt you used is equal to this, the point is reached that you want to withdraw from wintomato using the usdt has a very high withdrawal fee of -19-20$, do you think OP why is this charge of wintomato so high? I just don't know if you have tried my experience with wintomato. Thank you

[AmoreJaz]

- I just noticed some gambling games in the ones you listed Sir because I often play on the wintomato platform, and the altcoins I use to play are dogecoin, litecoin and the fiat stablecoin is usdt. Now I'm just wondering here on the wintomato platform, if you use altcoins to play and when I withdraw, the withdrawal fee is cheap, but when the usdt you used is equal to this, the point is reached that you want to withdraw from wintomato using the usdt has a very high withdrawal fee of -19-20$, do you think OP why is this charge of wintomato so high? I just don't know if you have tried my experience with wintomato. Thank you

when it comes to USDT, you should check the network that you want to withdraw to. if it is an erc 20, they charge $19, whereas, if it is TRC20, the fee is $11. tron network is relatively cheaper than ERC20. in some casinos, their USDT(TRC20) withdrawal fee is much cheaper. another option also is you can exchange first your usdt to any other alt with cheap fee like LTC. check also the min exchange amount if you will avail it. remember, when it comes to ERC20, most casinos really charge high as the gas fee is known to be expensive up until now.

[savetheFORUM]

- I just noticed some gambling games in the ones you listed Sir because I often play on the wintomato platform, and the altcoins I use to play are dogecoin, litecoin and the fiat stablecoin is usdt. Now I'm just wondering here on the wintomato platform, if you use altcoins to play and when I withdraw, the withdrawal fee is cheap, but when the usdt you used is equal to this, the point is reached that you want to withdraw from wintomato using the usdt has a very high withdrawal fee of -19-20$, do you think OP why is this charge of wintomato so high? I just don't know if you have tried my experience with wintomato. Thank you

when it comes to USDT, you should check the network that you want to withdraw to. if it is an erc 20, they charge $19, whereas, if it is TRC20, the fee is $11. tron network is relatively cheaper than ERC20. in some casinos, their USDT(TRC20) withdrawal fee is much cheaper. another option also is you can exchange first your usdt to any other alt with cheap fee like LTC. check also the min exchange amount if you will avail it. remember, when it comes to ERC20, most casinos really charge high as the gas fee is known to be expensive up until now.

@Mr. Magkaisa it's not that wintomato charge a high fee but it's because that is the standard fees of eth up until now. If you are using a stable coin, you can follow the advice of @Amorejaz which use a trc20 network if it's available but I see that even on this network they still charge a whopping of 11 dollars.

I think that was a lot but usually, tron related transactions are much cheaper than that like under a dollar fee only. The only best thing that you can do is to not use a stable coin when gambling on this platform. Altcoins are a still a good choice anyway for gambling, not only because their fees are low but they can also fluctuate less.

[bittraffic]

^ USDT on TRC20 used to be much cheaper like a dollar, $11 seems too much already. When people discover how low it is to make transactions thru trx20 USD, it gradually increased. Have not tried USDT on Polygon but I bet it must be cheaper than that. Only a few casinos supported MATIC however is only the list.

Like @Mr. Magkaisa said, Doge still is a good alternative for withdrawing if not XRP. The casino that supports more altcoins is Betfury so far.

[AmoreJaz]

@AmoreJaz, you are active in the forum, but I'm wondering why you haven't updated the information in the table which has been provided by Pmalek. Aren't you following your thread on a regular basis?

BTW, remove BetJA.com from the table. The website isn't available anymore.
Have you heard about NanoGames.io? The website is similar to bc.game. NanoGames has internal exchange system too.

site link : NanoGames
supported crypto : BTC, ETH, BNB, LTC, DOGE, TRX, BANANO, USDT, NANO, NND (Token), NNL (Token)
eff. exchange fee, % : Same as Bc.game

been long time that i haven't updated the list. apologies for that. yes, will remove betja as i was also wondering the site was down already. this bookie didn't survive, huh! i had some satoshis on that site as i was betting some on their sports before. good that it is not much.

will add nanogames. thank you for this addition.

Hi AmoreJaz,

Chips.gg also has a swaps feature on their casino. It's available at the following link: https://chips.gg/landing?modal=Rewards&tab=swap.
The fees depend on the rank of the player.

You can add this to your table if you want.

will add as well. thank you. and yes, the swap fee depends on your level so maybe the Tycoon V level has free swap fees already. you can also buy crypto within their site by using their 3rd party partners (guardarian, changelly and moonpay), so up to you which one you will use. maybe check their rates first.

on this note, just saw a new site also introduced in the forum and will be adding also in my list.

site link: https://okb99.com/#/
supported crypto : USDT, TRX

[Mahdirakib]

been long time that i haven't updated the list. apologies for that.

You took ages to update this thread! Still I'm happy to see that you have the intention to update this thread in order to help the gambling community. Anyway, you should recheck the "Supported Cryptocurrencies" of each casino to update the table with accurate data. Most of the casinos have added new coins within last few months. Here is a little update for you.

• Duelbits: Add SOL, XRP, BNB, APE, USDT in Duelbits supported cryptocurrencies list.
• Rollbit: Add SOL, APE, USDT, USDC. They are allowing to deposits in some other crypto too. But they have added those 4 crypto only for withdrawal
• Stake: Add BNB, MATIC, LINK, UNI. Stake.com added a lot of new crypto, but the Dinabot exchanger has added those 4 new crypto only.

[AmoreJaz]

been long time that i haven't updated the list. apologies for that.

You took ages to update this thread! Still I'm happy to see that you have the intention to update this thread in order to help the gambling community. Anyway, you should recheck the "Supported Cryptocurrencies" of each casino to update the table with accurate data. Most of the casinos have added new coins within last few months. Here is a little update for you.

• Duelbits: Add SOL, XRP, BNB, APE, USDT in Duelbits supported cryptocurrencies list.
• Rollbit: Add SOL, APE, USDT, USDC. They are allowing to deposits in some other crypto too. But they have added those 4 crypto only for withdrawal
• Stake: Add BNB, MATIC, LINK, UNI. Stake.com added a lot of new crypto, but the Dinabot exchanger has added those 4 new crypto only.

thanks much for those info. aside from additional currencies, i believe some also removed alts in their exchange list. those alts that are not very active anymore in the trading market.
well, hopefully some gamblers are finding the use of the exchange tab inside the casino esp if they are looking for options on how to cut back on withdrawal fees.

[Haunebu]

Nitrobetting recently added a new LTC withdrawal option due to which you can withdraw your BTC(Only deposit option in this site) as LTC minimising the fees to a large extent. Completed a large withdrawal using this method recently myself.

This is why I advise adding this site to your list op. Every crypto gambling site should provide an internal exchange option which is especially useful when BTC TX fees are high.