[LIST] Gambling sites with internal exchange

[AmoreJaz]

...... You can find it pretty easily by seeing what rate they give you for exchanging 1 ETH to BTC (or any other pair) and comparing it to the spot price on CMC or a major exchange. You'll find that Bitsler's rate is 5% lower and Crypto.Games is 3% lower.

I visited gambling websites mentioned in the OP and calculated their fee based on ETH/BTC rate (except for Coinpot.co, for which I used LTC/BTC rate)

AmoreJaz, you can add the fee rates to OP from the table below.

_________________	______
Gambling Website	Fee
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Bitsler.com	5%
Windice.io	5%
Luckydice.com	1%
Crypto.Games	3%
Yolodice.com	4%
Coinpot.co	2%
Duckdice.io	3%
Tower.bet	3%
_________________	______

thats great hosseinimr! will add those info. but what site did you use for comparison purposes (just for the record)?

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I wouldn't count CoinSwitch as an internal exchange since it's no different than manually going to Coinswitch, withdrawing from the casino and setting the deposit address to your casino deposit address. That's what Stake/Primedice do effectively.

 ill modify the table and separate gambling sites using coinswitch. will not remove them as the info may help other gamblers, in some way.

[Question123]

It's good those gambling sites who you can convert your coins to other coins. Many gamblers do this so they can save the high transaction, because mostly the fee for the bitcoin is higher than the altcoins. When I withdrawing my coins when I withdraw to the gambling sites and if they offer a convertion of the coin I choose XRP because the fee is very low and very fast to go your wallet just Not like the other coin that need few confirmation.

Most of the time where I play is the stake.com and Primedice who serve to us few years and I think it will live long because of their good service to the gambler and exchanging coins why the reasons also why many people playing to the site.

[hosseinimr93]

thats great hosseinimr! will add those info. but what site did you use for comparison purposes (just for the record)?

I compared exchange rates offered by those gambling websites with the prices reported by CoinGecko.

[Peanutswar]

I've been using stake.com for a long time because it's more fun to use this as a gambling website. Every time I deposit into BTC they automatically convert my funds into different coins like mostly the ripple ( XRP ) the reason why I always use their exchange because they have a lower transaction fee.

Also thanks for this list I have another kind of idea so I can experience different gambling website and enjoy my money

[jaberwock]

Thanks a lot AmoreJaz for putting efforts and making this much needed list because so far I was only aware of bitsler where we can convert our coins from one coin to another but with a small fees. Now that you have made such a long list, I will try out few of them which I have not tried yet.

But to be honest websites accepting various currencies cannot be called as having an internal exchange because like stake.com is great and everything but they do not have an in-built exchange. Yes they allow deposits from various coins through 3rd party but we cannot really call that as an internal exchange, please think about it as internal exchange simply means having your own in-built exchange for exchanging coins.

[imstillthebest]

I don't think you can exchange on stake.com from one coin to another at the time of withdrawal of funds.

huh ? you will request a withdraw and exchange the coin to another coin at the same time  ? im confused if what your trying to say but why exchange when you already withdraw ?

There's third party which isn't related to stake but provides an awesome exchange service at stake which is Dinabot which can be used at cryptogamblers.pub or just type cryptogambers pub on Google. The charge is a bit too high, but worth it.

this is what im about to say , dinabot . i tried using this and your right about the fee . so many people complain of thier high fee and the higher you exchange the higher they charge but if you exchange small , the fee is still be large so not worth it but it was amazing because its instant . you can transfer from stake to primedice or primedice to stake with any coins that they support .

[ralle14]

I don't think you can exchange on stake.com from one coin to another at the time of withdrawal of funds.

huh ? you will request a withdraw and exchange the coin to another coin at the same time  ? im confused if what your trying to say but why exchange when you already withdraw ?

People use those kind of services because of convenience everything is done within a few clicks and it saves you a bit of time since you don't have to create an account or log in on the exchange.


Fairlay also have their own internal exchange and the fees are fixed it costs .001 (ltc, dash, bch, eth) depends on the altcoins you prefer to exchange .

https://fairlay.com/markets/exchange/

[Gotumoot]

It is nice to have a list of gambling sites with internal exchange since I want to have most of my profit and I would try to avoid using crypto with a huge transaction fee like Bitcoin.
I always end up having less profit because of the high transaction fee and always wants to use other crypto when I am withdrawing my money from gambling sites now I could try to look for a comfortable site on the list.

[Viscore]

I don't think you can exchange on stake.com from one coin to another at the time of withdrawal of funds.

huh ? you will request a withdraw and exchange the coin to another coin at the same time  ? im confused if what your trying to say but why exchange when you already withdraw ?

People use those kind of services because of convenience everything is done within a few clicks and it saves you a bit of time since you don't have to create an account or log in on the exchange.

Now, if we are new to gambling, having this bucket list will be easier for us to choose which one. Not only it saves time by creating an account from one to another but with the help of this,  we all be guided by what gambling sites that offer the best services aside from the fees.

Of course, I should have to look for the site that has lower withdrawal fees aside from their market review.

[AmoreJaz]

Thanks a lot AmoreJaz for putting efforts and making this much needed list because so far I was only aware of bitsler where we can convert our coins from one coin to another but with a small fees. Now that you have made such a long list, I will try out few of them which I have not tried yet.

But to be honest websites accepting various currencies cannot be called as having an internal exchange because like stake.com is great and everything but they do not have an in-built exchange. Yes they allow deposits from various coins through 3rd party but we cannot really call that as an internal exchange, please think about it as internal exchange simply means having your own in-built exchange for exchanging coins.

guess ill just make a separate table for those gambling sites using 3rd party services (i.e. Coinswitch). will not totally remove as sometimes it will help other gamblers in some way if they are looking for options of how to change their funds to other alts without leaving the casino

I don't think you can exchange on stake.com from one coin to another at the time of withdrawal of funds.

huh ? you will request a withdraw and exchange the coin to another coin at the same time  ? im confused if what your trying to say but why exchange when you already withdraw ?

People use those kind of services because of convenience everything is done within a few clicks and it saves you a bit of time since you don't have to create an account or log in on the exchange.


Fairlay also have their own internal exchange and the fees are fixed it costs .001 (ltc, dash, bch, eth) depends on the altcoins you prefer to exchange .

https://fairlay.com/markets/exchange/

looked at fairlay and will add this. yes, they do have sportsbetting and thread here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673475.0
thanks for the suggestion!

[doomloop]

It is nice to have a list of gambling sites with internal exchange since I want to have most of my profit and I would try to avoid using crypto with a huge transaction fee like Bitcoin.

That is why internal exchange is extremely important or at least some kind of 3rd party suppliers who can exchange the coins within the casino and allow users to withdraw altcoins that are converted. For example I cannot withdraw 0.001 BTC from casino as I need to pay the usual fees of 0.0002-0.0003 BTC but if I pay 2-3% and convert them into TRX which is like 350-400 TRX then I can easily withdraw and the fees is like 1 TRX at worst.

I always end up having less profit because of the high transaction fee and always wants to use other crypto when I am withdrawing my money from gambling sites now I could try to look for a comfortable site on the list.

I can help you with that if you want as there are some hidden features like - https://cryptogamblers.pub/exchange they provide easy exchange of coins for supported casinos. But hey I am not recommending them or anything, I have used it though and it works quite smoothly.

[Emitdama]

What is their rate for exchanging coins and is there any fee for that?

This is a nice question to ask IMO, there rate of exchange is useful to be included in the list op for better clarification, I know mostly that some gambling platforms might charges high and low depending on their terms and conditions, so I think it would be good to implore that in your table so gamblers have the option of choosing their respective site.

I don't know for others but I use stake and I exchange my coins via DinaBot which is a really cool feature if you are not aware of it and they only charge like 5% fees and that is even lowered to 3-4% if you have coupons which can be found on their thread here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106586.0

I believe having an internal exchange is good but I haven't seen that feature on any websites I have made bet on so maybe worth checking these out and would be even cool to know their exchange fees because I would always prefer Dinabot over others if the fees is higher on internal exchanges.

[MI6]

This website is really helpful just wondering what if scammers use this feature of internal exchange to change their hacked coins to another coins what could be the gambling site's response to this.

[AmoreJaz]

This website is really helpful just wondering what if scammers use this feature of internal exchange to change their hacked coins to another coins what could be the gambling site's response to this.

it depends on the gambling sites protocol about stolen coins. because if the address is not tagged as stolen or hacked address, it would be hard for them not to accept the coins as they have no basis. but that kind of situation is very possible imo.
 but most users are using the internal exchange for convenience purposes like avoiding high tx fees.

[Kupid002]

This website is really helpful just wondering what if scammers use this feature of internal exchange to change their hacked coins to another coins what could be the gambling site's response to this.

If they can found out earlier that it is came from hacked coins .then ,they can freeze the users account and ask for verification. The same method use from exchange . but if it the balance already widraw in other address then the option is only lock it so users cannot use the website again and the address sended the balance will be flagged.

[lupandina]

I don't think you can exchange on stake.com from one coin to another at the time of withdrawal of funds.

huh ? you will request a withdraw and exchange the coin to another coin at the same time  ? im confused if what your trying to say but why exchange when you already withdraw ?

There's third party which isn't related to stake but provides an awesome exchange service at stake which is Dinabot which can be used at cryptogamblers.pub or just type cryptogambers pub on Google. The charge is a bit too high, but worth it.

this is what im about to say , dinabot . i tried using this and your right about the fee . so many people complain of thier high fee and the higher you exchange the higher they charge but if you exchange small , the fee is still be large so not worth it but it was amazing because its instant . you can transfer from stake to primedice or primedice to stake with any coins that they support .

Regular Dinabot fees are 3-5% (higher amount - lower fee), and for most active top users 1-3%. Comparing with other sites in first post of this topic, I wouldn't say that it's too high.

[AmoreJaz]

maybe time to refresh this thread, as there are new casinos that have been launched in the forum. for those players who are looking for casinos that have their own internal exchange, you can check the first post. it may help you in terms of withdrawal options, converting your coins to another coin before playing, etc.

new addition :

dice.one

everyone is free to post their suggestions and will add them accordingly.

[Lordhermes]

Yolodice team had gone on break for a very long time now, Scott and Ethan had choose to get new perspective on the site maybe in the future or they stay offline forever.

It's been a real pleasure and fun running YOLOdice for you, but we (Ethan and Scott) have decided to suspend the site and get a break with our lives, gain new perspective and maybe come back with a new crypto-related project.

@AmoreJaz I don't know if it's necessary to still keep Yolodice on the current list at first page, wouldn't it be appropriate if they are been removed till they come back anytime soon in the future, what do you think about this, just my suggestion though.

[Mahdirakib]

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Glad that you are back in this thread with new update. I agree with ‘Lordhermes’, you should remove Yolodice from the list. Also do a research about Coinpot.co and remove them. Seems like they have shut down their business (not sure). And update the ‘Supported Cryptocurrencies’ chart of Bitsler, Betfury & Duckdice. Bitsler have removed some crypto from their site and the other two casino have added few many Cryptocurrencies.

[Saint-loup]

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Glad that you are back in this thread with new update. I agree with ‘Lordhermes’, you should remove Yolodice from the list. Also do a research about Coinpot.co and remove them. Seems like they have shut down their business (not sure). And update the ‘Supported Cryptocurrencies’ chart of Bitsler, Betfury & Duckdice. Bitsler have removed some crypto from their site and the other two casino have added few many Cryptocurrencies.

Yes I confirm Coinpot has closed since several months now, by doing a big exit scam in addition. So I think this scammy gambling site should be removed from this list and be put in a blacklist of scammers and thieves.