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October 16, 2020, 07:06:52 AM Last edit: November 06, 2023, 05:06:31 PM by Ratimov |
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October 16, 2020, 10:19:06 AM Last edit: October 16, 2020, 10:31:01 AM by dkbit98 |
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Huge list, and many of this wallets I see for the first time here. I would suggest that maybe you can add information if wallets are using Open Source or closed source software. I also think that you should remove metalic backups (Capsule, Cassette, Cryptotag, Billfodl), as they are not wallets ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) LockBox -
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This looks like a cheap Ledger clone Ledger because it is a Ledger wallet with just blockchain brand ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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October 16, 2020, 10:27:32 AM |
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Really big collection, but I'm not sure these metal plates or capsules go into the same category as other electronic devices, because they are primarily used to back up seeds or private keys that are generated on hardware/desktop wallets. I paid a little more attention to the prices, and there really are huge differences between the device, so the prices of this Corazon HW go even over $1000, and at the same time many users have trouble paying even 10 times less for such devices. Such manufacturers are probably targeting customers with higher purchasing power who want to have something exclusive, but it seems that no one can compete with Ledger and Trezor when we look at their total share in this market. Speaking of Trezor, they also offer an expensive model that is made in a limited version, and as far as I can see it is still available on their website. https://shop.trezor.io/product/trezor-one-metallic
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This looks like a cheap Ledger clone ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It is the official HW manufactured by Ledger for blockchain.com and works exclusively with this service. https://www.ledger.com/blockchain-announces-exclusive-hardware-wallet-lockbox-powered-by-ledger
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October 16, 2020, 10:42:29 AM |
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About the metal plates or capsules I had doubts whether to include them in the list or not. But I have studied many articles and guides with hardware wallets that I found on the Internet and they are often included there. So I decided to add them as well.
I am afraid there are so many of this metallic backups seed storages that you would need many more pages to add them all, and I know at least 20 or more that Jameson Lopp tested: https://blog.lopp.net/metal-bitcoin-seed-storage-stress-test-iv/
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October 16, 2020, 07:30:15 PM Last edit: October 16, 2020, 08:02:32 PM by DaveF |
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The "bitcoin credit stick" is more commonly known as the opendime. My opinion, and it's just that an opinion is that some things you have listed are not what most people think of as hardware wallets. Things like the opendime, the ballet crypto cards, etc. Are one and done. Once you open it, scratch the code off, whatever, it's no longer secure. A hardware wallet is day to day secure use. Otherwise every coin in the collectables section that you can load can be a hardware wallet. Just my view. Also, rare and hard to get but: https://www.mycelium.com/mycelium-entropy.html-Dave
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October 17, 2020, 10:12:08 AM |
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It's a long list, but we have to redefine Hardware wallets because many of the images contain paper wallets and other ideas.
For example, OmniStaker | should hardware wallet be air-gapped? not connected to the Internet? And having ethernet built inside, doesn't it reduce the security of the wallet?
the same for Crypto Ring and other metallic backups seed storages
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October 17, 2020, 03:47:34 PM |
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It's great and helpful stuff of huge list in all Hardware wallets. I never thought there are too many of them. I tend to agree that metal plates are not wallet just like, Billfodl. Just a small request, can you include in your list and determine each every one of them which are those open-source or close source wallets? Regarding the Pi wallet, actually, the reason might it was a sold-out because you can simply create your own wallet using Raspberry Pi for a Crypto storage. Here is how to create a wallet Using a Raspberry Pi for a Crypto Currency Wallet.
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October 18, 2020, 02:32:46 AM |
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For example, OmniStaker | should hardware wallet be air-gapped? not connected to the Internet? And having ethernet built inside, doesn't it reduce the security of the wallet?
Yeah, that caught my eye immediately and it definitely isn't a real hardware wallet. Stakebox has been making dressed-up pi's to stake specific coins for quite some time now, and even if they use much less electricity, you'd still have to stake a hell of a lot of whatever coin you're staking in order to recoup the cost of even the cheapest Raspberry pi on the market. And yeah, I guess you could use a pi as a hardware device, but that's true of a cell phone or even a piece of paper with a seed phrase written on it. All in all, this is a great compilation of various HW wallets and I hadn't seen a lot of these before. Thanks for going through all the effort, OP.
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October 19, 2020, 09:05:18 PM |
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Wow, very impressive list. I thought that there is maybe 15-20 hardware wallets in the market, I haven't heard many of these names before. I'm not sure how did you managed to find all these wallets. Though, I'm not sure that all these things can be called as hardware wallet, but still, it's good to have everything collected in single place. What is also impressive is price of some hardware wallets. $500 or even $1000 for hardware wallet, well, it should be masterpiece for such price. Also, I want to suggest avoid Bitfi wallet, which claim to unhackable, but in reality it's unsafe. And, I think you should update about Ledger Blue - they aren't selling it anymore. Though, maybe it's still available on resellers stores.
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October 19, 2020, 10:23:40 PM |
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This is insane. I had no idea there were this many types of hardware wallets. But what allows these companies to make these wallets?
Also, i remember hearing something about this on youtube but couldn't a regular person with tech skills create their own wallet so to speak? Or something like that?
I heard of bitfi wallet and that is mcafees wallet right? But thats unsafe?
Now with all those other wallets i never heard of, any case of it being hacked or unsafe? I mean that certainly feels sketchy having coins in a wallet like one of those not named ledger or trezor right?
But why would anyone buy any wallet that is not ledger or trezor? When you look at the pricing, most seem to cost even more than the nano ledger and trezor.
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October 21, 2020, 11:29:42 AM |
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[...] couldn't a regular person with tech skills create their own wallet so to speak? Or something like that?
With lots of tech skills, sure. I heard of bitfi wallet and that is mcafees wallet right? But thats unsafe?
Yes, absolutely insecure. Shouldn't ever be recommended. Now with all those other wallets i never heard of, any case of it being hacked or unsafe? I mean that certainly feels sketchy having coins in a wallet like one of those not named ledger or trezor right?
Definitely, yes. I'd never use an unknown hardware wallet where the security hasn't been thoroughly tested by multiple auditing companies. But why would anyone buy any wallet that is not ledger or trezor? When you look at the pricing, most seem to cost even more than the nano ledger and trezor.
I guess because they like "how it looks" or just out of curiosity / for fun.
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November 15, 2020, 10:54:59 PM Merited by Symmetrick (1) |
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Ratimov, I think you can move the Temexe X wallet under the defunct category. The official website is no longer available and there have been no updates on social media for more than two years. Surely buying such a wallet would be a big security risk. Also, I've added a few more new wallets to my list so you might find this information helpful. New hardware wallets:
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November 27, 2020, 08:24:40 PM Merited by Symmetrick (1) |
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Hey, Ratimov! Here's another one for your list: SecurityArts QUANTUM- PASSWORD MANAGER/KEEPER
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Supports Bitcoin, Ethereum, Ripple, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin SV, Litecoin, EOS, Dash, DogeCoin and Stakenet XSN coin. It can be purchased at an official web shop for $49. https://security-arts.com/
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February 09, 2021, 11:59:27 AM Merited by Symmetrick (1) |
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Ratimov, few more hardware wallets you can add to this big list: Jade is open source wallet made by Blockstream and we can buy it for $39.99. Full-color display, supporting Bitcoin and Liquid Network sidechain tokens L-BTC, USDt, L-CAD, JPYS and it will have camera enabled in future with qr codes. https://blockstream.com/jade/github: https://github.com/Blockstream/jade/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimkey.im%2F_next%2Fstatic%2Fimages%2F4-82e90aa4f71797bc54be377630dd9b60.jpg&t=665&c=xdTKYECfrZItbA) Imkey is $99 and supporting Bitcoin, Ethereum, Eos, Cosmos and USDT https://imkey.im/ Hito - Not much info about it and no price, wi-fi support, full-color display and it will have mobile and desktop app. https://hito.ai/
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February 10, 2021, 11:30:38 AM Merited by Symmetrick (3) |
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I found few more hardware wallets missing from this big list and they are coming from Chinese manufacturer called Wookong currently offering four devices. They are all working with their native closed source application and with Math wallet as far as I know. Wookong Bioprices starting from $170 or or ¥1099 with discount Supported Cryptocurrencies: BTC, ETH(including ERC20), EOS, USDT, XRP, LTC, CYB, ETC, NEO Wookong SoloSupported Cryptocurrencies: BTC, ETH(including ERC20), EOS, USDT, XRP, LTC, CYB, ETC, NEO Wookong EnterpriseSupported Cryptocurrencies: BTC, ETH(including ERC20), EOS, USDT, XRP, LTC, CYB, ETC, NEO Wookong Blue - Coming Soon Wireless and wired up, but no information for coin support.
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A couple more that are missing:
Changes: - The following hardware wallets belong to the "Not Purchasable" section:
- KeyFort Lite C100 and KeyFort K300 [domain is for sale]
- Crypto Ring [inaccessible website]
- Secalot [suspended account]
- KeyWallet Pro, KeyWallet Touch and KeyWallet Classic [inaccessible website]
- Esecubit [inaccessible website]
- Telx [inaccessible website]
- Cobo Vault [deleted page]
- LockBox [deleted page]
- XZEN [closed]
- The following hardware wallets have changed their links:
- Keevo Model 1 - Link
- Coldcard™ Mk3 - Link
- Price update:
- Wrong image:
- The picture you've included for "MIRkey", belongs to "eHSM" instead [link].
- While you're at it, it'd be nice if you could re-upload all of the images that aren't showing up with a third-party website like "Imgur".
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I recently found out that Interpol and their Innovation Centre is keeping their own tracking off Hardware Wallets Digital Forensics List, with vendor ID _VID(0x) and Product ID _PID(0x) for each device. Forensics examiners may use this information to identify if such a device has been used on the suspect's computer, and they keep this list of hardware wallet updated on regular basis and they have most popular brands on their list: https://github.com/INTERPOL-Innovation-Centre/HardwareWallets_DF_List/blob/d92f5beef76cd08ff7ea575979bef08f1758a56e/README.mdThey obviously have problem to identify some non-usb devices like airgaped hardware wallets, because they are harder to identify especially if they only use QR codes for communication. If you ever used hardware wallet connected with your computer over usb connection and you want to remove any leftovers, best way to do this is probably to reformat and reinstall fresh OS. We also know that IRS have intention to crack and hack hardware wallets so it doesn't hurt to be extra careful about this.
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December 01, 2021, 12:02:45 AM |
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They obviously have problem to identify some non-usb devices like airgaped hardware wallets, because they are harder to identify especially if they only use QR codes for communication.
Oh damn, that's a very interesting point to consider in the 'airgap discussion'! I will definitely remember this as an advantage of airgapped wallets: they don't leave traces on the OS. Especially not when using QR code; though I don't see how using an SD card for PSBT transfer would leave a 'suspicious' trail on the computer.
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December 01, 2021, 11:50:22 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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Oh damn, that's a very interesting point to consider in the 'airgap discussion'! I will definitely remember this as an advantage of airgapped wallets: they don't leave traces on the OS. Especially not when using QR code; though I don't see how using an SD card for PSBT transfer would leave a 'suspicious' trail on the computer.
They could only identify that you used some SD card on your computer, but SD cards are generic and used for storing media and multiple purposes. However, SD cards do have their own firmware but that is separate subject all together. One more thing that is tricky for Interpol is tracking DIY hardware wallets made from general use components like RaspberryPi.
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