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November 04, 2020, 03:27:46 PM
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Can someone balance me real quick, how do people get losses even though we know that Bitcoin is destined for growth?
is it because people are looking to buy and sell quickly which may result in a loss if market falls?
Because in my view i feel like buying and holding on to your bitcoin until its value has increased(which is an assured) will always set you for profits.

please correct me if im wrong...
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November 04, 2020, 04:26:06 PM
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how do people get losses even though we know that Bitcoin is destined for growth?

please correct me if im wrong...

And this could be a wrong idea and probably where you are wrong. If you keep thinking that bitcoin is destined for growth, you can keep losing. You should know that nothing stays the same way just like that and as bitcoin is a tradable commodity, you should know that there are times of fluctuation because of buy and sell orders. So it falls and rises too. Knowing that will help you to navigate to know when to hodl or dump based on the drops and rise.
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November 04, 2020, 04:44:06 PM
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Can someone balance me real quick, how do people get losses even though we know that Bitcoin is destined for growth?
is it because people are looking to buy and sell quickly which may result in a loss if market falls?
Because in my view i feel like buying and holding on to your bitcoin until its value has increased(which is an assured) will always set you for profits.

please correct me if im wrong...

You do get the right idea but its really not just right for you to think that everything can be assured in means of price increase.For long term aspect then most likely we would
able to make profits but the question is, do people have that very long patience to do so? I see not and thats why some will really be actively making up some trades
on short as time as possible by dealing or playing with market movements which we know that can potentially make out money in shortest time as possible.
We do have our own ways to make money and its up to someone neither he would decide to hold for long or would actively make up some trades but
of course with accompanied risk.

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November 04, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
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Holding bitcoin certainly brings profit to a person. But why do they still suffer loss? Its because they dont want to simply invest their money in bitcoin. They want to trade bitcoin in order to maximize the profit. However, only a few people can do that. Others dont even have knowledge and experience so as to make earn money weekly.

Moreover, some of them even try to use margin trade which is extremely dangerous to newbies. Without proficiency in this field, losing money is the only result. So, there is nothing to be surprised if people continue to lose money in trading even though bitcoin is anticipated to grow over years and years
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November 04, 2020, 04:54:13 PM
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There are more to trading with just the value of Bitcoin. There are multiple ways that you could potentially lose money.
  • Trading with different coins and those coins losing in value
  • Trading a position that is against the market flow
  • Closing a position in a loss
  • Many people choose to trade against it

Holding Bitcoin and just buying it is not the ”whole” trading experience is not how you would become a ”trader.” it's not easy to predict what could happen to the market, but you have different chances of profiting every time. Traders should be consistent.

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November 04, 2020, 05:13:19 PM
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Bitcoin is 11 years of old now and we still refer to it as a growing field, that's because it has not attained a global recognition and acceptance especially by governments of nations due to it's decentralized nature.
So yes, as a growing filed, it's value appreciates with time and as such, hoarding is one of the ways to rip with minimal risk but then, it takes a lot of patience and then, is that the most you can make out of that investment? It might seem like the best but then, some other user whom bought same amount can double or triple in profit while your still pissed on time. Not ruling out the fact that all could be lost by the way.
But then, you tend to run at a loss if you exhibit theses traits:

As a Hoarder: should you sell your just bought coin before the market booms or it rises, you loose. Here, patience is a key factor.

As a trader: should you take a trading position against the trend or enter trades without running proper analysis, get out of a loosing trend just because it ran a few pips against you and more, you loose. Here, your knowledge of the market and experience plays a key role.

As an investor: should you invest on Ponzi and scam platforms, should you invest in any platform without proper research on the platform, your at risk of loosing all your investments. Here, being skeptical, paying attention to details and proper investigation plays a vital role.

I hope it's helps and I beacon on everyone to seek details and know how before taking actions that involves your Bitcoin.
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November 04, 2020, 07:01:06 PM
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Same for me.
It was the right track on my mind.
Buy it, keep it.

Trading had so much risk. You can end up losing more in that method.
I thought before it was quick money to trade it because of volatility.
But without proper knowledge, it's not an easy task at all. Stay with what you can do. Don't force yourself into something you are not made of.
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November 04, 2020, 09:24:54 PM
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Those are traders and not a wise hodlers, so we cannot blame them if they want to have a faster profit than to hold their bitcoin and wait for the result of it. Also, not all hodlers are making money with bitcoin because of too much emotion they tend to sell some of them out of panic. There’s also no assurance that bitcoin will continue to go up, so again this is still a risk that you should manage and be willing to hold even if there’s no assurance.

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November 04, 2020, 09:37:17 PM
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Can someone balance me real quick, how do people get losses even though we know that Bitcoin is destined for growth?
is it because people are looking to buy and sell quickly which may result in a loss if market falls?
Because in my view i feel like buying and holding on to your bitcoin until its value has increased(which is an assured) will always set you for profits.

please correct me if im wrong...
Because they do day trading. If a person just holds bitcoin and he knows that in the future there will be more growth, he'll get to buy more bitcoins adding to his entire portfolio. But the other way of doing it is through trading, getting profits which will be the amount that will be used for buying more bitcoins. And in reality, there are only very few day traders that are winning in their trades. Having that curiosity, you should determine which action you must do, remain as a holder, be a day trader or you can do both without touching your holding.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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November 04, 2020, 09:42:12 PM
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Some did buy BTC at higher price that causes them losses, BTC price is volatile and been affected by many FUDS sin the past. Not all who  hold or trade bought BTC at low some where just due to hype it brings that makes them buy BTC that causes them to lose. Without knowledge how to trade properly and to choose other crypto to trade with it will be hard to recover losses by just waiting so there is a need to really know how to trade not just to hold so when the price seems not moving or too volatile we can decide whether to buy other alt or keep selling or buying.

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November 04, 2020, 09:52:25 PM
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Can someone balance me real quick, how do people get losses even though we know that Bitcoin is destined for growth?

You can't increase your bitcoin just by holding so people always keep improving their "buy low sell high" principle.

Since it's quite challenging to face the unpredictable and volatile crypto market, it's not that easy to increase our holdings.

There's no quick money even Bitcoin is destined for growth. You have to work for it.

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November 04, 2020, 10:06:11 PM
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Some did buy BTC at higher price that causes them losses, BTC price is volatile and been affected by many FUDS sin the past. Not all who  hold or trade bought BTC at low some where just due to hype it brings that makes them buy BTC that causes them to lose. Without knowledge how to trade properly and to choose other crypto to trade with it will be hard to recover losses by just waiting so there is a need to really know how to trade not just to hold so when the price seems not moving or too volatile we can decide whether to buy other alt or keep selling or buying.

Some incur losses because for example, they bought btc higher than what they are selling it. They are selling it for number of reasons - urgent need, fear that market will crash, looking for other crypto investments, etc. So at one point, they are losing because of some decisions that they need to take, whether they like it or not.
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November 04, 2020, 11:37:08 PM
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Bitcoin is 11 years of old now and we still refer to it as a growing field, that's because it has not attained a global recognition and acceptance especially by governments of nations due to it's decentralized nature.
So yes, as a growing filed, it's value appreciates with time and as such, hoarding is one of the ways to rip with minimal risk but then, it takes a lot of patience and then, is that the most you can make out of that investment? It might seem like the best but then, some other user whom bought same amount can double or triple in profit while your still pissed on time. Not ruling out the fact that all could be lost by the way.
But then, you tend to run at a loss if you exhibit theses traits:

As a Hoarder: should you sell your just bought coin before the market booms or it rises, you loose. Here, patience is a key factor.

As a trader: should you take a trading position against the trend or enter trades without running proper analysis, get out of a loosing trend just because it ran a few pips against you and more, you loose. Here, your knowledge of the market and experience plays a key role.

As an investor: should you invest on Ponzi and scam platforms, should you invest in any platform without proper research on the platform, your at risk of loosing all your investments. Here, being skeptical, paying attention to details and proper investigation plays a vital role.

I hope it's helps and I beacon on everyone to seek details and know how before taking actions that involves your Bitcoin.

In my own insights of winning and losing in trading were just simple its because this is what tend to happen. I do believed that everything has a perfect timing that will going to happen in our life. Life were full of ups and downs and so even trading and investment. It doesn't mean that you're an expert trader now you will be able to win again and again. Even the very expert trader failed too in trading too. But the most important thing of what i am wanting to emphasize was to learned from those mistakes that we have been done.
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November 05, 2020, 12:13:57 AM
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Can someone balance me real quick, how do people get losses even though we know that Bitcoin is destined for growth?
 is it because people are looking to buy and sell quickly which may result in a loss if market falls?

 Trader losses because of basic reasons;
 
 
  • Greed - when btc's price goes up, our greed mind tells us to wait more because it will pump more and market is unpredictable otherwise it goes yhe opposite.
     
  • Panic- bitcoin suddenly drops and our panic emotions are telling us to sell it quickly (whether deficit or not)
     
  • No patience- there are many times we were stucked and hanged and patience were tested but most of the time it is failed because we wanted to acquite profits immediately which is definitely noy a good idea.
     
     
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    Because in my view i feel like buying and holding on to your bitcoin until its value has increased(which is an assured) will always set you for profits.

     Traders have different point of views. Especially when you are in a situation wherein you don't have cut losses (leverage trading) and don't want to take a risk of waiting forever. I mean, like having a long entry and btc sudden drops and make it a short and clearly it will continue to go down, will you not sell off your btc to at least save up half of your capital?
     
     On the other hand, if you are telling us to wait until btc rise up (which is effective if you are a long term trader and holder), then that is the best way to do-- wait until target profit reached.
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November 05, 2020, 01:21:24 AM
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Losing is normal in this market.

Whenever know what will happen with the prices and the indicators that you might see in the price chart might lead you to wrong decisions. There are a lot of things that could lead to losses and one of them is being impatient that they immediately sell what they hold, another one is panic selling when the price went down unexpectedly.
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November 05, 2020, 01:46:20 AM
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Can someone balance me real quick, how do people get losses even though we know that Bitcoin is destined for growth?
is it because people are looking to buy and sell quickly which may result in a loss if market falls?

Different people have different purposes for why they sold coins.

Sometimes, there will be a time that a person will sell their coins even at a loss because they want quick money either urgent or emergency, or in case of a downtrend, they don't want to see their portfolio holding decreasing the value.

Bitcoin is destined for growth but it's not happening overnight. Let people do whatever they want to their bitcoin as it needs to be circulated.
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November 05, 2020, 02:37:41 AM
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If you don't want to lose money then you should not invest in the first place because your profit in cryptomarket is not guaranteed even if you hold bitcoin. Perfect timing is what you need in this market, and knowing when to buy and sell is important but never expect to have a consistent profit because cryptocurrency is too volatile. Hold bitcoin with your target price, and don't be greedy especially if you have the chance to take profit.
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November 05, 2020, 02:52:03 AM
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If you don't want to lose money then you should not invest in the first place because your profit in cryptomarket is not guaranteed even if you hold bitcoin. Perfect timing is what you need in this market, and knowing when to buy and sell is important but never expect to have a consistent profit because cryptocurrency is too volatile. Hold bitcoin with your target price, and don't be greedy especially if you have the chance to take profit.

Actually he has a point. If all traders consider the steady growth of BTC price, no one will ever loss especially if no one do swing trade or day trading. But this is impossible to attain since most of the traders used indicators which shows sign if ever there is an overbought.

In trading, You will not lose until you sold unless you are on leverage trading. Many of traders that burned is due to leverage trading and not on the regular buy and sell of bitcoin.

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November 05, 2020, 02:56:23 AM
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There is a misconception in the market like this where people think that it is a guarantee profit if they will purchase or make investment in bitcoin. That is not true and it is the reason why 90% of the investors and traders are losing money in the market. The price of the bitcoin is not increasing like a stairway, there are pullbacks and retracement that are happening and it is the reason why there are people who incurring losses. There are always right time to buy and sell in terms of investing and trading, you cannot just put your money without prior knowledge on what you are doing. I always saying for those traders that invest in your knowledge in order to minimize the losses and maximize the returns that may get from the market. Also know that holding asset or any cryptocurrency doesn't mean that it will give you profit, there are a lot people who are losing because of holding so always do a better decision with backup of concepts and ideas.
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November 05, 2020, 03:46:29 AM
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There are a lot of greedy people out there, especially those people who are buying Bitcoins because they know it will help them to get rich without knowing what really Bitcoin is. They want to earn a huge return in just a short period of time, that's why they are ended getting rekt.
When entering on trading, we should really learn and very careful because we all know trading is really risky!

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