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November 11, 2020, 05:44:30 PM
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Actually OP gave a good advice.
But any situation will not be able to prevent traders from carrying out their activities. I still enjoy my trading with an altcoin (I tend to do scalping).
As long as you can apply any trading technique that suits the current situation, you can still trade altcoins without any significant risk.

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November 11, 2020, 06:38:37 PM
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Ever hear of "buy low, sell high"?  What does that suggest about the altcoin market at the moment?  Seems to me that buying bitcoin as it's hitting its high for the year while neglecting altcoins which are getting pounded is a silly move.

You don't make money by buying things when they're at their high.  That's a sucker move, but it always happens in bull markets, whether it's crypto, stocks, whatever. 

I'm not really that into altcoins, though there are some good ones--but I'd say now would be a pretty smart time to be buying those good ones, i.e., while their price is relatively low.

While I completely agree with your sentiment, I am wondering which altcoins are good to invest in. the top coins obviously will have some gains. But then, they also have some bagholders, so it will be more difficult to grow them towards previous highs.

In other words, what will be 'the story' that drives the next altcoin run? I think it will have to do with usecases and real world adoption - but which are the good projects here?

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November 11, 2020, 07:07:02 PM
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Many of us are following a trend which is to Buy less and sell more. This trend is especially followed by some people who don't have enough knowledge of trading. You will not win always but you have to set your mind to be positive. In the current time, buying Btc will be good for anyone and you can expect it will get more pump in a very short time.

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November 12, 2020, 03:54:26 PM
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Investing and trading are different things and even though they both involve buying an altcoin and selling an altcoin, the gap between those two actions decides which one you are. If you buy and sell within few hours, you are a trader, if you buy and hold for longer than few months you are an investor.

I would say trading altcoin right now could be risky, you could still make a profit, you could make a lot of profit because it goes down and up a lot and if you buy at down and sell at up you could make much bigger profit. However I would say buying and holding for at least a year a coin like ETH would guarantee you profit and there is nothing better than knowing that your investment will profit you over long period of time, most of us came into crypto world to do exactly that.

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November 12, 2020, 04:15:59 PM
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What you are trying to warn is that most new traders do not want to follow. Because they are more interested in fomo trade. 

Those who have a good idea about the market and professional traders always try to take advantage of the market. So they can bring out good results in any situation of the market through scalping trade. It is normal to face losses if you do not follow the market trend, most inexperienced traders do not want to follow the market trend so that they cannot control themselves as the market changes.

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November 12, 2020, 05:20:21 PM
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Many of us are following a trend which is to Buy less and sell more. This trend is especially followed by some people who don't have enough knowledge of trading. You will not win always but you have to set your mind to be positive. In the current time, buying Btc will be good for anyone and you can expect it will get more pump in a very short time.
Buying low and selling high is what traders commonly do and I think it is not classified as a trend  Tongue, As a trader, I don't want to miss a trading opportunity that's why if I see that when a trend is just starting I'm taking advantage of the situation and try to seize what kind of profit I can get from it. The pair doesn't matter as long as the profit is always there. You can always get profit from altcoin and bitcoin itself, It's just how you do the trading that makes you win from it.
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November 13, 2020, 04:07:29 AM
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Many of us are following a trend which is to Buy less and sell more. This trend is especially followed by some people who don't have enough knowledge of trading. You will not win always but you have to set your mind to be positive. In the current time, buying Btc will be good for anyone and you can expect it will get more pump in a very short time.
Buying low and selling high is what traders commonly do and I think it is not classified as a trend  Tongue, As a trader, I don't want to miss a trading opportunity that's why if I see that when a trend is just starting I'm taking advantage of the situation and try to seize what kind of profit I can get from it. The pair doesn't matter as long as the profit is always there. You can always get profit from altcoin and bitcoin itself, It's just how you do the trading that makes you win from it.
The concept about buying low and selling high is seems easy to execute but in reality it is really hard to identify if it is the final dips or it is the peak of the price. Bitcoin is now in trending where it keeps making HH and HL that are characteristics of an uptrend, for those who are not able to get positions in bitcoin; my advice is you should buy whenever the price makes a breakout because there will be a role reversal where the resistance will become a support and that role reversal is healthy in a trending market. Others can trade alts as long as they can manage the risks where they should lessen their allocation and they should add more allocation in bitcoin.
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November 13, 2020, 07:56:35 AM
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many experts also say that, if now there is Bitcoin season, not altcoin season,
so we have to hold Bitcoin, but I think, because Altcoin prices are very cheap we should also buy Altcoins, at least accumulate.

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November 13, 2020, 02:18:41 PM
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many experts also say that, if now there is Bitcoin season, not altcoin season,
so we have to hold Bitcoin, but I think, because Altcoin prices are very cheap we should also buy Altcoins, at least accumulate.
Buy altcoin if you have fund instead of bitcoin yes, but he can still buy bitcoin and sell it right away, it all depends on the trader and his patience, there will always be some people that will take this risk, but there are more people now actually that are selling their btc and other altcoin during this Season.

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November 13, 2020, 09:11:23 PM
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Do not trade Alts with BTC these days, You will just lose

I do not recommend to trade alts with btc these days otherwise you will be just loosing your money. As BTC hitting its ATH, the prices of alts are dumping even if it is BNB or any other coin whichever was stable in the last months. Just trade BTC/USD only.

This is fact.. Although I never trade btc against any Alt. I've been trading btc with usd so far. I changed from eth/USD to btc usd.. And it's been good so far..hopefully, It will continue being good.
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November 14, 2020, 04:42:13 AM
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Do not trade Alts with BTC these days, You will just lose

I do not recommend to trade alts with btc these days otherwise you will be just loosing your money. As BTC hitting its ATH, the prices of alts are dumping even if it is BNB or any other coin whichever was stable in the last months. Just trade BTC/USD only.

Yes absolutely right.
Currently seeing the high peak of BTC, i am assuming that we will see 2018 once again.
It's not to far that we will see BTC again in 20k+ USD.
And in this prior time if we trade the altcoins with BTC, then surely we gonna face losses.
Better we need to wait for some moments and give time to the BTC market.
Soon we will get the appropriate time to invest and make money.

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Bitcoin is still maintaining the position of pumping that is causing alts and other cryptocurrencies dumping in the exchange market. For you not to experience loss in this season with altcoin and other cryptocurrencies, you have to trade with bitcoin alone, since bitcoin is still pumping in the area of market that is making bitcoin trader to testify the benefits they are experiencing right now when 2020 is coming to an end soon.
The way bitcoin is pumping right now show that other cryptocurrencies are warming up to pump since the rising of bitcoin is reducing them since they came back from pandemic which really make other currency lose value during the process.

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November 14, 2020, 02:25:35 PM
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Just look at algo then your eyes will be opened

The intense pump of bitcoin causing people to think that altcoins aren't good to trade this time. Apparently, not. Besides, this is the best time to buy them because sooner or later, these coins will also making pumps.

Bitcoin is still making its way for another ATH while altcoins are still in bearish. I see this as a longer effect since many were using Bitcoin than altcoins. If we are planning to make a trade, I suggest trading altcoins to altcoins or BTC to USD and vice versa. This is the only way of becoming safe and to avoid losses.

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Bitcoin is still maintaining the position of pumping that is causing alts and other cryptocurrencies dumping in the exchange market. For you not to experience loss in this season with altcoin and other cryptocurrencies, you have to trade with bitcoin alone, since bitcoin is still pumping in the area of market that is making bitcoin trader to testify the benefits they are experiencing right now when 2020 is coming to an end soon.
The way bitcoin is pumping right now show that other cryptocurrencies are warming up to pump since the rising of bitcoin is reducing them since they came back from pandemic which really make other currency lose value during the process.
Waiting for altcoin season is coming when bitcoin have stable not down or up and all investor move from bitcoin investment to altcoin, you need waiting for this moment because if bitcoin still up and down suddenly your chance for altcoin is little because will give bad result if you wanna trade with altcoin, when bitcoin dump never try to entry on altcoin exactly will give loss more because altcoin always down after bitcoin down but never give guarantee when bitcoin up altcoin have to higher price. Just when bitcoin have stable and look stay more than few hour you have chance to see altcoin will grow up and many investor looking for altcoin to be their investment. Some time we can't know with bitcoin when stable after have any news make bitcoin suddenly will dump or pump.
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November 14, 2020, 05:20:14 PM
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So far we are still in profit in the weekly column, sure last night may have been not so great but when you look at it weekly we are still in profit and we could stretch that even further and will be in profit. So all in all I would say it is still profitable to invest into altcoins. Just because you could have made a lot more profit with bitcoin doesn't mean you would have lost with altcoins, you would have still made a profit with altcoins but it would have been less than what you could have with bitcoin.

I personally think that everyone should have a huge part of their investment in bitcoin but I also think we should never be fully out of altcoin world as well, we should have big portion in bitcoin but a small portion in altcoins would be greatly helpful when alts skyrocket as well.
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So far we are still in profit in the weekly column, sure last night may have been not so great but when you look at it weekly we are still in profit and we could stretch that even further and will be in profit. So all in all I would say it is still profitable to invest into altcoins. Just because you could have made a lot more profit with bitcoin doesn't mean you would have lost with altcoins, you would have still made a profit with altcoins but it would have been less than what you could have with bitcoin.

I personally think that everyone should have a huge part of their investment in bitcoin but I also think we should never be fully out of altcoin world as well, we should have big portion in bitcoin but a small portion in altcoins would be greatly helpful when alts skyrocket as well.

People are generalizing when it comes to altcoins and once they do saw that it doesnt make a move then thats the time they do say that it isnt worth for the risk specially as of this moment.

You can really make out some money with alts if you do know on how to play with it neither if the market is in bullish state, you can still possible utilize those movement and profit with it.

For low cap coins which are usually being hunted for some people then i can say that this is a gamble.You wouldnt know if this one will really get some value or not
but once it did then that will really give much profit but if not then you're ending up on holding shit coins.

Its just a matter on how someone do handle up its alts.

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November 14, 2020, 05:48:40 PM
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There would be virtually no point to trade BTC with Alts, it's exactly the same thing using your single account. The fact that, you can open multiple positions on a single trading pair is what makes there to be no difference when you trade with Alts.
I'm out here thinking what would be the motive of most persons trading with Alts and all that comes to my mind is, them taking a different position from the previous account, maybe a buy in contrast to sell but in reality, what is gained in one account is lost in the other. So, there really is no point.

As for BTC making Altcoins seem less and less valuable to trade, it's just the way it is. The more volatile, the better.

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November 14, 2020, 08:43:08 PM
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If the scenario was like that it would probably be easier and I guess, there was nothing wrong if he didn't have a target of quick profits. Something that is the problem is about those who are chasing quick profits so it will not be easy or may not be able to make profits. Trading Alts can not only be paired with BTC, you can still pair it with other coins so that it can still be adjusted according to your abilities.

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I also think it is not a good idea to trade altcoins with bitcoin because bitcoin's price is continuously increasing and stable from it's $16,000 price that altcoins might have bad changes in their prices. Others are converting their altcoins into bitcoin because they expect bitcoin to reach it's ATH again. Still, I think it is a little bit dangerous to buy bitcoin today because bitcoin's price is still unpredictable due to its volatility that others might be selling out their bitcoins by the end of November.

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I do not recommend to trade alts with btc these days otherwise you will be just loosing your money. As BTC hitting its ATH, the prices of alts are dumping even if it is BNB or any other coin whichever was stable in the last months. Just trade BTC/USD only.
Selling your altcoins just to purchase Bitcoin that is now having a high price is not a totally good idea instead, accumulate more altcoins.
If you are not a HODLer you can now use your Bitcoin to purchase altcoins knowing the Bitcoin is surging right now. Who in the right mind will buy a Bitcoin anyway? That would be a total loss though. Just try to remember the "buy low and sell high", now that Bitcoin is expensive all you need to do is to sell while on the other hand alts are now making a slight movement then buy is the right thing to do.



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