Monero "BADCACA" - XMR Tracking Project (with user's porn preferences)

[monero_badcaca]

Monero lost its reputation a very long time ago. Just imagine people having your IP addresses along with which sites you visited or where specifically you purchased something is quite frightening for those that thought they were dealing with a privacy based coin. I checked the link (https://monero-badcaca.net/) it does not look good for Monero as a privacy coin and it does not look good for those 100 user details that will be published daily 

I'm posting the daily report in Monero topic until they start moderating it.

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[pedrillo0]

TLDR: Monero was never a real privacy coin. Multiple problems that Ciphertrace is currently exploiting were reported to Monero project in 2016 and remain unfixed since. To draw attention to the issue I will publish transactions, IP addresses and porn preferences of 100 "lucky" Monero users every day.

I have been logging Monero transactions for over a year now. Main reason why I decided to go public are blatant lies that there is nothing to worry about Chiphertrace and that Monero is private. If you are prepared to sit though an 8 hour lecture on how broken Monero is, you will see that even they admit it. However that's obviously a small percentage of people they sell Monero to.

Have more questions? Have a look at the FAQ page on BADCACA website.

Check today's 100 users who thought Monero is private on BADCACA!

You're right!

Monero has an old core!

You need to improve yourself to achieve what your community expects.

Before it is too late...

[Sat0shisGhost]

I'll be the first to say it. BADCACA's data is not "just dumb FUD". I looked through the data and there's definitely some authentically traced transactions in there.
I understand that he's disgruntled because people haven't taken him seriously for years (despite some of the stuff he has published being correct) but this is not the right way to go about publicizing this data.

If your tansaction is waiting for a few minutes in the mempool, badcaca node got it.

Why can you only catch transactions that were waiting for a few minutes in mempool? Admittedly I don't know a whole lot about dandelion but I would think you're just recording the first node to broadcast a TX here.

[monero_badcaca]

his is not the right way to go about publicizing this data.

Why not? They have already shown they are prepared to lie about it.

Why can you only catch transactions that were waiting for a few minutes in mempool? Admittedly I don't know a whole lot about dandelion but I would think you're just recording the first node to broadcast a TX here.

You are confusing cause and effect here. Transaction sitting in node's mempool is caused by it being intercepted and then rebroadcast.

[Sat0shisGhost]

his is not the right way to go about publicizing this data.

Why not? They have already shown they are prepared to lie about it.

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You are confusing cause and effect here. Transaction sitting in node's mempool is caused by it being intercepted and then rebroadcast.

With regards to indiscriminately publicizing the data, I worry that there might be some innocent people getting caught in the crossfire here (people who aren't sophisticated enough to evaluate your data and are simply trying to protect their privacy). I don't have any problem with publicly disclosing transactions related to certain criminal activities. Furthermore, I think publishing data on transactions that are in the public interest might draw attention to your research.

But for all we know there are whistleblowers buying VPNs or domains, and you're putting out IP address data which could be used in combination with other methods to identify those people.

With regards to the mempool:
I think we might be talking about different mempools? I meant the public transaction mempool and I would assume that you don't have 100% coverage of these transactions:
  Do you mean the like my local node's mempool?

Are you saying if you intercept a transaction then it won't appear in the public tx mempool for a couple minutes?

[monero_badcaca]

But for all we know there are whistleblowers buying VPNs or domains, and you're putting out IP address data which could be used in combination with other methods to identify those people.

This argument can be very easily turned around. For people like that, isn't it better to know they have been exposed? Monero is perfectly happy for them to be tracked by Ciphertrace while reassuring them that all is fine.

I think we might be talking about different mempools? I meant the public transaction mempool

There is no such thing as a public mempool on a p2p network level. What you are seeing on the website is a snapshot of one node's mempool. The way dandelion++ works is that the transaction will be put into the original node's mempool, broadcast in stem phase, and if the node doesn't see it again, it will be broadcast in fluff phase. The "not seeing it again" part is the cause of the delay.

[Sat0shisGhost]

This argument can be very easily turned around. For people like that, isn't it better to know they have been exposed? Monero is perfectly happy for them to be tracked by Ciphertrace while reassuring them that all is fine.

You've convinced me that IP addresses for a significant chunk of Monero TXs have been compromised but right now that data is silo'd in ciphertrace/chainalysis/Fourteen Eyes servers (and yours). I realize you were able to code this up mostly on your own but I think you'd be surprised at how far behind the intelligence agencies of most countries are so some Turkish or Azeri or Libyan dissidents or something could easily be affected by this (that being said, it is possible ciphertrace is selling it to Turkey through Cellebrite).

I think most people aren't knowledgeable enough to authenticate your data and are assuming it's FUD. If you want to quickly get the word out, an easy way might be to contact a reputable journalist and demonstrate it to them by revealing their own IP address (I'm happy to help you with this).

There is no such thing as a public mempool on a p2p network level. What you are seeing on the website is a snapshot of one node's mempool. The way dandelion++ works is that the transaction will be put into the original node's mempool, broadcast in stem phase, and if the node doesn't see it again, it will be broadcast in fluff phase. The "not seeing it again" part is the cause of the delay.

Interesting thanks for the clarification. I'm not particularly familiar with dandelion++. Does the original node broadcast the transaction to multiple nodes in the stem phase or just to one other node? What determines when the fluff phase occurs?

[electronicash]

they waited this long to uncover the so called truth of monero?

so why the hell IRS will need someone to crack and finally trace monero transaction when they can hire Ciphertrace. and of all transactions the side only sees porn?  are Ciphertrace porn lovers too? but thanks for the fud, because finally at least some of privacy concern users are going to grab some of XMR while it dips.

[nullius]

Dandelion++, its strengths, and its limitations are of interest not only to Monero users.  For I am surely not the only one who wishes to see Dandelion++ implemented in Bitcoin Core, if it can be done without opening mempool DOS vectors.  (This was the reason for the rejection of BIP 156 for the inferior Dandelion; IIUC, the worst DOS concerns involve interactions between Dandelion (or Dandelion++) and Bitcoin features that don’t exist in Monero.)

This is primarily a technical post; but first things first...

Monero lost its reputation a very long time ago. Just imagine people having your IP addresses along with which sites you visited or where specifically you purchased something is quite frightening for those that thought they were dealing with a privacy based coin. I checked the link (https://monero-badcaca.net/) it does not look good for Monero as a privacy coin and it does not look good for those 100 user details that will be published daily  

I'm posting the daily report in Monero topic until they start moderating it.

Hey, JollyGood, you have a reputation for fighting spam and forum abuse.  What do you think of badcaca’s overt bragging that he wants to use abusive tactics instead of technical arguments?

I need not remark on the security ignorance and technical ineptitude of the forum’s Timothy Leary.  

But for all we know there are whistleblowers buying VPNs or domains, and you're putting out IP address data which could be used in combination with other methods to identify those people.

This argument can be very easily turned around. For people like that, isn't it better to know they have been exposed? Monero is perfectly happy for them to be tracked by Ciphertrace while reassuring them that all is fine.

Oh, spare us your liar’s false pretense of concern for the privacy of users!

If you actually gave a damn about that, then you would disclose in detail what you claim to be doing so that (a) others could evaluate it on its technical merits, and (b) the alleged vulnerability (if any) could be fixed so as to protect privacy.

Of course, that would presume that you actually have a low-resource way to break Dandelion++.  (It does not even claim to protect against AS-level adversaries, let alone global adversaries.)  At this point, I am pretty sure that you have only bullshit—such as your incessantly repeated deliberate conflation of network-layer attacks against Dandelion++, and Ciphertrace’s (much more credible) claim to have developed probabilistic transaction clustering from blockchain analysis.  I do think that the Monero community should pay more heed to the latter; but those are completely different threat levels!

Interesting thanks for the clarification. I'm not particularly familiar with dandelion++. Does the original node broadcast the transaction to multiple nodes in the stem phase or just to one other node? What determines when the fluff phase occurs?

I suggest reading the paper.

Having read the actual Dandelion++ paper when it came out, I can safely call this ridiculous.

I already answered this—twice:

My first thought is, “Whose IP addresses are those supposed to be?  The originating nodes’?  Contra what it says in the badcaca FAQ, Dandelion++ would make it easy to mistake the IP address of the originating node.”

It is exactly the type of technology which will make badcaca associate transactions with the wrong IP address.

I'll be the first to say it. BADCACA's data is not "just dumb FUD". I looked through the data and there's definitely some authentically traced transactions in there.

A stopped clock is right at “some” moments of the day.

Of course, if he lists a randomly selected peer IP that handled a transaction in the Dandelion++ stem phase, then that IP will sometimes be the actual originating peer.  That is the point of “random”.  “However, the protocol also ensures that the first relay node to broadcast is approximately uniformly selected among all relays that have received the message.”  See below.

You are confusing cause and effect here. Transaction sitting in node's mempool is caused by it being intercepted and then rebroadcast.

There is no such thing as a public mempool on a p2p network level. What you are seeing on the website is a snapshot of one node's mempool. The way dandelion++ works is that the transaction will be put into the original node's mempool, broadcast in stem phase, and if the node doesn't see it again, it will be broadcast in fluff phase. The "not seeing it again" part is the cause of the delay.

Based on a reasonable inference of what you seem to be suggesting that you are trying to do:  The Dandelion++ authors were way ahead of you.  That is an admittedly low standard, because you don’t know what the hell you are doing.  You are listing the IP addresses of random peers, exactly as I said!

§4.4 at p. 17 of the Dandelion++ paper speaks thusly:



If you claim to be defeating Dandelion++’s random timers, then please show your work with maths and stuff.  (LOL, as if.)

Transplanted from the Monero thread, with appropriate context restored to the internal quotation:

Among other things, AES is broken!!  

Do you think Vincent Rijmen exploded with anger when AES was broken? No, he congratulated the authors.

Say what!?  When was AES broken?  

(Just a guess:  If you are talking about related-key cryptanalysis, then you are mentally retarded and you know nothing about cryptography.)

I dearly wish that Monero were exactly as “broken” as AES!

Yes it is, Monero community members have a tendency to spew uneducated bullshit. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-319-19962-7_3

You idiot, the biclique attack does not mean that AES is “broken”.  I guessed the related-key attack, because in some versions, that would have much lower time complexity (it just requires, um, related keys).

All that you need to do is to read the abstract of the paper that you cited.  You don’t even need to hop over to Sci-Hub and enter the DOI (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-319-19962-7_3) to read the full paper.  Just at least read the abstract!

Biclique attack is currently the only key-recovery attack on the full AES with a single key....  We have a biclique attack on each of the following AES versions:

• AES-128 with time complexity 2^126.13 and data complexity 2⁵⁶,
• AES-128 with time complexity 2^126.01 and data complexity 2⁷²,
• AES-192 with time complexity 2^189.91 and data complexity 2⁴⁸, and
• AES-256 with time complexity 2^254.27 and data complexity 2⁴⁰.

Our results have the best time complexities among all the existing key-recovery attacks with data less than the entire code book.

Yup:

I dearly wish that Monero were exactly as “broken” as AES!

Break in cryptography is anything faster than a brute force search; it doesn't matter that it takes down security from 2^128 to 2^126 (and is therefore only theoretical), it doesn't even matter if it is a known-plaintext key recovery attack. There is no need to call people names just because you don't know what you are talking about (like most people in Monero btw)

There is a need to call you a liar (in addition to an idiot), when you are using the classic dishonest debate tactic of switching back and forth between two different senses of the same word—in this case, different senses (by orders of magnitude) of a cryptanalytical “break”.

You claim to have broken Monero’s privacy in some significant, practical way.  Your website’s FAQ insinuates that this is comparable to how AES is “broken”.  For the third time:

I dearly wish that Monero were exactly as “broken” as AES!

By the way, I am not “in Monero”.  I am a Bitcoiner and a lifelong privacy fanatic, who sometimes uses both Monero and Zcash.  FYI.  I am on this thread just because I hate stupidity.

Note:  I have not reviewed the code of Monero’s Dandelion++ implementation.  But I am pretty sure that the people who wrote and reviewed that code would not have omitted the aforesaid random clocks, without which Dandelion++ would be trivial for any s’kiddie-tier retard to defeat.

the memorylessness of the exponential clocks

P.S., monero_badcaca, would you please apply your superb grasp of statistics to a gambling method, and gamble using my reflink?  Thanks.  Fallacies can be profitable!

[nullius]

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By the way, I am not “in Monero”.  I am a Bitcoiner and a lifelong privacy fanatic, who sometimes uses both Monero and Zcash.  FYI.  I am on this thread just because I hate stupidity.

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I know investing can be difficult for some people, they invest more than they are willing to lose and can become emotionally involved in the projects they back. Maybe you should consider analyzing your position, frankly and without emotion, and move on.

You meritless idiot, with your asinine assumptions and corrupt insinuations.

It is none of your business, but for the record:  At this particular moment, I have exactly 0.00000000 XMR.  I don’t even know what the XMR market price is right now—nor do I care.  I usually have more ZEC than I have XMR, and I have had rude comments made to me about that by some few less-intelligent members of the Monero community.  Anyway, what I HoDL is Bitcoin—which is doing quite well, in case you did not notice.  “There is only one Bitcoin,” as I have stated in either my signature or my personal text since I was at Newbie rank on this forum.

My post offered significant technical arguments.  Your reply suggests that you are only here to shill for your preferred shitcoin, and you are projecting your own greedy mindset onto others.

Do you have any substantive, intelligent reply?  Or do you need for me to ask you to translate “xитpoвыeбaнный” and apply it to yourself?

P.S., newbie protip:  As a matter of forum etiquette, please trim your quotes so as to provide adequate context, whilst focusing on the portion to which you replied.  (Since you did not reply to anything that I said, that may not apply here.)

[monero_badcaca]

@nullius All the insults in the world won't make the IP leak disappear. Your own cult leaders admit it is possible : https://www.monerooutreach.org/breaking-monero/ Who are you to question them?

Monero BADCACA sybil attack is still here, despite the claims that it has been fixed. If your tansaction is waiting for a few minutes in the mempool, badcaca node got it.

Here is 100 Monero users who trusted in its privacy yesterday, are you on that list?:

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8d4c0ffec535a5c87f5e0a94678c981f4815d1865749a3fc18c0af39f1f4dca1	85.248.227.xxx	Sala, Slovakia	incest
a3ee60c3d937d090b382d2ae037c8f97e1f5252ee6c6fc6d551eb9fea636b69d	85.153.201.xxx	Istanbul, Turkey	incest
e6bd1f143c87a4df097bf8e6ac37d2f476bb3b1d7937ce2d52009c6dcdf5de55	185.245.84.xxx	Copenhagen, Denmark	incest
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0267ce6913209441ed83e2cd3caa3441948a463700cf98e19af47372d27de384	5.180.62.xxx	Muenster, Germany	teen
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76734832b2aba9ece57417e9bfc641f6d19c54e80329f48f3e23c812a98e6b16	176.37.87.xxx	Kiev, Ukraine	interracial
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f75594e4673a599bbb02d5db4e580f1d8ec56090ce5d268a96a0c5ba86779b5d	76.10.138.xxx	Mississauga, Canada
f059c10fdf47f4a4c7ce2f55f047c079541b05069c609a5c0f47f1088cff0d9c	122.116.59.xxx	Taipei, Taiwan
fb7a01e4745aa923667bb08e25f99fa2106e9224f3e3db36360259155087b6d2	77.35.132.xxx	Vladivostok, Russia
570aca820bd83282021157f20ef217b0ef7b64bceddfb99f8b7953ff0b39f547	47.190.133.xxx	Dallas, USA
693aacab1c4b96c6578cd85e4bc8b08a396e30367ed60f666ac9307694a16d2f	204.27.63.xxx	Kansas City, USA
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39fbcc79b0ea93c887833668097f6c562bea60e8fff398c12d40e2e9ae15a44d	93.176.153.xxx	Madrid, Spain
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bfc2bcf5cea6709b3fe648a37e259bea656c453990db42ca5a4cdea1828f5012	185.203.122.xxx	Chennai, India
60711763986f839ba3eda23d4999fcc4eabbfd15a1e4b395e4ceb80e797e5182	86.43.118.xxx	Navan, Ireland
5ed0c7eb33b808c1f97b42879729a514709b38ae36bca9c22f8f12fd109bad26	167.88.23.xxx	Toronto, Canada
641500ae20653f8dfeeed15ac0066dd24685d5ac08740b7c6c2ddb6cd1b5a5df	109.230.30.xxx	Bratislava, Slovakia
3d9cdba3dbccec1c7fa42c626f1e743718d0584fde3c6e7c985ab12e0e5d7faa	83.84.57.xxx	Zwolle, Netherlands
db2c3bdfaa0225ddb1564f16583e44f5d7466e8808aa57f2fc18919bf2da8f2e	113.196.66.xxx	Taipei, Taiwan
5495efc1b68c5d5d3bca7043dd415dd8e9faa0dbd3e97dbf242557dbbce462f4	118.208.10.xxx	Woorim, Australia
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f914e9164f4fc02b561111ac206dae2a6c6d9c4cc72d6d0c0102e548368cce19	98.128.185.xxx	Stockholm, Sweden
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c83f2cd87afc65eecaf5ba1950728d1a2de3a2a8b0295ab93062bf893703ba4c	108.168.103.xxx	Toronto, Canada
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0a14bdd49c4da0fb7941574144352e6030f257945b67054046d0eeb4405dd22a	193.80.6.xxx	Kirchschlag, Austria
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48bf621547809eb1dea09b33cfcebcaeebdefc21987522e8baed4f1001e1b998	211.250.82.xxx	Seoul, Korea (Republic of)
75b0dd25559ee5f12ca5acfe58251d6de9761a3ce7098a7332db7d7092f5789f	80.101.35.xxx	Bergen op Zoom, Netherlands
b3201fdc3775f977922d264ee2656e1f126c5b1922228a1a7c88d3963933bfbb	27.33.196.xxx	Sydney, Australia
1828621ab968917d88b156382738adbfa509c2e56ea4e5c66eee7bfec47c3334	24.8.128.xxx	Cherry Hill, USA
1233a7d1c3071deba49d6c5c4679bfcd2a7c37f5271d958b0ab26128196c4504	61.186.25.xxx	Haikou, China
8de20fa6b1033dab5570f77bbf51d16c59b2107414a1a5935335cee8d1393799	82.181.172.xxx	Vantaa, Finland
5b95f80d20a5b38b8644cb190a88178b12a03d1d1027d738f962e2c86445a5dc	31.179.127.xxx	Krakow, Poland
cd22bc505ba7ce64756d0aac867a3508d07a8b6731a17795ee6f0e0a60738277	31.179.127.xxx	Krakow, Poland
0b9c9df5e76b808670b7dc80ca596f260651d7220b186f9ed572a7cfdab39495	182.43.181.xxx	Dezhou, China
599552f3a5e2a2c8c798abb4cdc85e7325fedac0fd5561ee0d050361bb405db8	188.151.202.xxx	Stockholm, Sweden
56700d082889facea061e1c6d04e4daa74810b8e5c85ea1ccb477911e79cbdf5	164.70.176.xxx	Tokyo, Japan
a74c9d54c3bca62f36f8c05235d17b581ff813201469dbb2e39f40bbb996539c	164.70.176.xxx	Tokyo, Japan
84f35e11ee85134fd04beb85991610a71f4aa461955806dc8ac103be07dc7f05	209.93.61.xxx	London, United Kingdom
0f96b80d8f912b57c209e03f9b0b6588dfcba6575974b31e68090d137c1dafa4	86.106.90.xxx	Montreal, Canada
73e4a7454608b297b4999cbf44019ab627c539dfaaee481f86c3aa69bfb3fd03	172.116.56.xxx	Santa Monica, USA
8ef378d28af740a11173be3becd8efa879fe0ab79c8b6a51c331cc16a4fbe88a	172.116.56.xxx	Santa Monica, USA
ca3a648cd4b2b5614a21827ceddb446d6390afa016f6fdcf60ea0424f73163a9	213.250.21.xxx	Ljubljana, Slovenia
9a8e5203fb238c7f27ec455e6e5bc583bcce008ebb820380fec17fdfbb80a32c	213.250.21.xxx	Ljubljana, Slovenia
71b621b2024b36c11291c0879827f424a5bbd70b4aa01fd16868252ab58f7964	37.24.1.xxx	Dusseldorf, Germany
3184d0195f19aa406898b7802da5b320245493dcb905d19768de6c8b7bfa4a27	95.165.104.xxx	Moscow, Russia
913784878993aa1cda4478d420a0c680c283b558f7a3bf63b41157a0c027a5e2	83.161.147.xxx	Almere Stad, Netherlands
9f9d9ee8cd0925642bcb60ce436cbe9863c356f961bc168811a1fa476c92e3d9	81.100.197.xxx	London, United Kingdom
9271301c103ab6c5cb5b05222504b7c7f5f70a7ab167f63f83770491f386ff2a	81.100.197.xxx	London, United Kingdom
50ea42ba20ff19868dcd98704f6c3245d7569f2b253df30c9b7af9c925259c29	185.192.69.xxx	London, United Kingdom
49905a25937d00e3d6cbb7042528b8ba26b50681e2848a1df64506a98ccb2f8b	24.168.121.xxx	New York City, USA
08b3ad7cb01586f050886fd2f1feff13b351cc079edf26fab44ec0506466fc5c	66.177.85.xxx	Jacksonville, USA
ff96c96e4f8b281e97a68db7507acafd1e4788d49ff9c50c191687b10a028f5f	180.101.140.xxx	Suzhou, China
c49bdde080d8ea6f45295ff83af4d1c2a838e34d851f55c9dd2924c14eadb7d7	180.101.140.xxx	Suzhou, China
fe449d5d095e11300105e9b4ea0fbb5fbccc052276cb76d6d3bb955d13ffa8f8	85.241.106.xxx	Lisbon, Portugal
0507722d6991e5facbc85875eb3d7a9fd4aa67e1f3560fffe71677e89946b0f4	85.241.106.xxx	Lisbon, Portugal
8fc38f094116b8baec11e5dbe39c9fd0e3a52998222edf53a7a17115c66aa1cc	47.149.111.xxx	San Bernardino, USA
93c740999e2a9cfb60563d12568c72db9b67cba15c3acbc3927806484e2c980f	73.131.106.xxx	Charleston, USA
74f673e588a293eae4d27102158c5374e4b8aa02482fb371beadef4370c4f479	83.85.97.xxx	Rotterdam, Netherlands
76fd2e68f75cbb378500ca92f6784df73e2fad9484cef04b6afe4037309c6979	83.97.20.xxx	Bucharest, Romania
9a3cb0e18a5f62c26773e732405f35dd56055f273a940acbf90fc7db519b47ec	94.224.210.xxx	Zaventem, Belgium
a927a95f075e9388fea2a08c15f1377c405e8325b66da9c080467b9c872ac705	100.11.156.xxx	Philadelphia, USA
6e63ac6d8356b61ebdfa8ee3284b7df7e1c0830a4c4bdadbdcd8c04158b7b79e	100.11.156.xxx	Philadelphia, USA
59db00b154cb8c87d4b9a16d3f2ab29843d502d9be5019f3db2a01a7ed863cd1	178.69.35.xxx	Saint Petersburg, Russia
e445b4952e2dc4de67d5e189e598a82a7d57e7fbc1ea8d276a998638eb83cd6e	58.111.133.xxx	Sydney, Australia
2849581c0009cfaa391465ee4ec2947cb04be31c4da3c407e067eacc90d32c9f	58.111.133.xxx	Sydney, Australia
78b7e9978fdb856aa5f910e17bbb11fc572a20af0901b55c43250c28cd286c0c	93.104.161.xxx	Hof, Germany
9ebe598745cda588294cbd1b69cb566abb562f85638c892e7ff710c19f45a028	93.104.161.xxx	Hof, Germany
a1ead4e5c60d01fe6ac26b57e48017e7a5f9c3dc14948141eae7ae63967c1e07	75.82.185.xxx	Canoga Park, USA
89b826b7e4b28a768fe44cad9b49fa138a165662740c3494c4b8099091571b9e	24.154.254.xxx	Pittsburgh, USA
6d777b558f1fc955c271fc90b0860fb5cfdbcebb464e58e41d0221e04952a236	80.24.57.xxx	Adeje, Spain
ca0fac15621e184ae17b02b3bfce95b9148d7e66884016f8084a77a5719c5641	202.153.210.xxx	Wetherill Park, Australia

[dragonvslinux]

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I'm looking forward to seeing some evidence behind these claims.

[SirLancelot]

Obviously every single coin that became something will also have enemies as well, I am not saying it will be a great threat to that coin but it will happen one day or another. There are tons of people claiming bitcoin could be hacked as well, in reality they are talking about individual accounts that could take years with brute force and you could move out during that period, not the blockchain in itself as a whole unless you can get your hands on some quantum computer which doesn't even exist right now.

So, if you are successful enough you are going to have enemies, the reason why you have one could change but it is still going to be something that is permanent and they are going to do it over and over again. Ignore them because it just means you are good enough to bother others.

[monero_badcaca]

I'm looking forward to seeing some evidence behind these claims.

Simple. Use Monero, find out if you are on the list.

[monero_badcaca]

Monero BADCACA sybil attack is still here, despite the claims that it has been fixed. If your tansaction is waiting for a few minutes in the mempool, badcaca node got it.

Here is 100 Monero users who trusted in its privacy yesterday, are you on that list?:

Txid	IP Address	City	Favourite porn
85551633c1bc7e356c4d872372e56288db7e04bed809b6c1d4fc3eea0c5112c4	62.182.99.xxx	New York City, USA	child
7da0fd5433a3e1ca2b71948d809f03e58b0d358f717a8ac5a3ecff79d5bf3600	193.9.112.xxx	Prague, Czechia	incest
06d590f74b372fae9fbf179cfbb8cd3ef554cb25e58b79e3d9efe6be4ca620d9	193.148.18.xxx	New York City, USA	incest
16c769e0e5e8547b79dd355a295dc0535b61af53c7ce1b37e09b82e7892eb39c	217.138.216.xxx	Berlin, Germany	teen
de302ae6ad4059e1dc6c6b6a087ba84cfa748a1b4f046a565b7cb2de33e81609	45.141.152.xxx	Frankfurt am Main, Germany	teen
774d0453525b31895aaf3388993520ef75a69d39ff8df9599e2264ec3f6896ac	38.142.119.xxx	Hicksville, USA	teen
fa95df3614bbd9eaa35c978fe28e0b213cc7a6f227ed9539de3690b6e8adc1dc	84.115.201.xxx	Vienna, Austria	teen
1266f4fa95f191a46176747c66f9f899633604e22907ea24af7b938c5ea1f2d7	176.37.87.xxx	Kiev, Ukraine	interracial
857f44da38a1085c739055b618fa26f02e74f694ab8940208be2274685676be6	176.37.87.xxx	Kiev, Ukraine	interracial
2b253b4e172a2e53880e5467befd99978d5c81ee749587e2714b348c47d96918	100.19.74.xxx	West Chester, USA
c3bad2ddb1b0f4826222d44de56f8b081699e9d70f10e1c3bd947b8409f03d36	174.97.168.xxx	Neenah, USA
122d724f4d56199861b04380d3490fcb5367b5a32a2da6d9325254acae353daf	50.34.54.xxx	Kirkland, USA
6942d1810aa0eca280ef14e6dca79ca9d1b6b3f1352622e7067d569d266aee00	162.232.25.xxx	North Olmsted, USA
5dbeb270048995634c282e8f7721bf47ddd2cc025630bdcba3f5e2e259c8b106	203.59.165.xxx	Perth, Australia
147b639923e4f7f3c5fea17a45928e5e58aff6823e83b5fdfbb271e18fee6b57	84.66.3.xxx	Bracknell, United Kingdom
d9568ef35bd913ab98dfe76f0b8ddd324f1f915f23711e9ccd4c12a0c409511e	98.209.232.xxx	Port Huron, USA
36f6c35fd0918d0cd0f9074d267048a8b02d52a0a6eb6063b203c2448826000b	186.206.230.xxx	Belo Horizonte, Brazil
bf62a6094abb5b9651422531f0e50b3706ae96c3d9d3a08bff13416bcc88dc96	83.161.147.xxx	Almere Stad, Netherlands
307a6364f3c9129e4dddafe404ca3b57ddeff8ee23cee96c64fe067a63dcf5a0	24.16.42.xxx	Kenmore, USA
be25ba1cdbae231ed5c54dc4ed479f1d2a2624a5c5fdefe41ba96c510a809f35	109.90.2.xxx	Weckrieden, Germany
16b287f32fa8c78b5a1347d1f275f622072a484a8d72f4786de76eba5d68bf16	98.179.109.xxx	Surprise, USA
2141e85a516e661375ab576e9d364d953aaf7adf3f3bc54a23f2ca72e394b315	86.121.150.xxx	Voluntari, Romania
586b3541686246d8c388ff4989f7dc8415f03bca1edd2313bb22cdfcee34cc4e	50.24.126.xxx	College Station, USA
34325a8d1950af588921a4f93748918733a6876916d6e5052590e8a57908afec	70.184.66.xxx	Laguna Niguel, USA
863f96f6dae02bc356bfd5b180da702dde1cb2ce7bec495d9e754037e62d3f1d	118.136.3.xxx	Jakarta, Indonesia
6d0e76c5037f3754ecfcf3e20f18602bfc4dca24da9d7f96661af486e8705d6c	98.167.66.xxx	Las Vegas, USA
045640d1d54fbeddaf0ee41f106a753846b70d44052184864d293fef87720ea2	76.17.213.xxx	Plymouth, USA
92ef9383d54e74009cf7ad06d01d869a7ded747921c6b67875ea2b544a36e15c	93.225.66.xxx	Dusseldorf, Germany
d6738ea1084c87c77e11ed74f8b68d5f9cd21382057333bb7d1ec17b1f5a5103	137.27.174.xxx	Fort Worth, USA
c70feab6d9dd31081586e8cef8d437b6f45c87a39d15e991e6b7dbfdeabb53c8	172.92.100.xxx	Port Angeles, USA
bdf52ea3638b91d7116a7dbb12bca3b28d6d230ff4e736ca7a7d6d0b0156d5e7	46.126.49.xxx	Zurich, Switzerland
5a7ec154d0873be1fb4d19f8d34dd3917039507cd7a0f0ec9d548b3351e886aa	83.84.57.xxx	Zwolle, Netherlands
4f83c2e06ebc614952e0cd2cbca2841a3355dce76d90adb920afab9922ca9400	31.10.131.xxx	Saint Moritz, Switzerland
98bebb28ea2dee894d3cb4c61dffbcdbf637bba67a277ddb6f67388aeb0fd8eb	101.191.35.xxx	Moss Vale, Australia
f6c8d5e94aae0ed05532602058f81df5175db9f058e393d7570af2cd92dab6b2	188.22.228.xxx	Maria Enzersdorf, Austria
8b7abdbf42979a50b11bc40cb86fc097d7e5cc59dbbd51bc3319e1285b99d6ce	24.27.15.xxx	Austin, USA
0392f03bfd1f1be0cae833015c78e7ff5d98b79e4dab06f980a58153ed2e0e15	66.69.73.xxx	San Antonio, USA
2aa2ae9c08b08c481dd1bbc33d8a8dfb63d7e0af98ab404ab23eb11684bf258d	171.212.244.xxx	Chengdu, China
764da1bd5980d21045674b893f31d9f424fa597d956adc0c704231d8b00c8175	68.58.61.xxx	Greenwood, USA
798be60a93baef50653f8dcf2a60fb4946ef0c148a3ce3bf60823c88b3da72b9	94.224.210.xxx	Zaventem, Belgium
5cbd8b476aa4f8d05163a56d7dd7d2138fe09d68444af6f6a2b08c41e0c20f2c	93.219.91.xxx	Berlin, Germany
19870e8eaa2027519e71077e9609ef63017bdc9a23064b8fac27d95250e4095b	222.190.61.xxx	Nanjing, China
95da9e3ba2fc675aebe1c57974781a4d23990cc39a42b98db3805d503b5ae892	23.16.102.xxx	Kelowna, Canada
6d9188bda87282e120fc2d34bccfcd3bc85463bd58e5361a6377aa5147eaf613	50.53.163.xxx	Beaverton, USA
290983fe878934156c48d4044b4db1bdd84982c06664898a175d625bc2216d35	96.225.78.xxx	Morristown, USA
d717149b3e67f9e24aabb26215c5717c2020bd8c75fe6a2ae5549efc59a7249e	50.83.209.xxx	Aurora, USA
53d5b46b16ce76aa86169606b4d6194c64c0570b630d7d66f2747221639533ce	193.9.112.xxx	Prague, Czechia
fc79b2f8fda8b939b755a6cc0525a4cc729ddb74351b68d62b6741e3697a8ed1	73.131.106.xxx	Charleston, USA
5d6df5f58cbbd1e7d8b9dfe28faca0fda62f67a7d02cc58ea6e9f90d3dff8dc9	177.76.111.xxx	Sao Paulo, Brazil
ae784ddac2d9e37a77e2f5f6f4295aadc03ca235d80771bb0fc35cb579964cff	60.241.48.xxx	Ryde, Australia
68d717fd8b53dd2b674911cc0aad560b7a4a09ded60855e3f8653e8bb6282875	181.164.203.xxx	Buenos Aires, Argentina
aa313806ef7332ac52108aea8c8a1ffddcbb96a11f12deda3cbf18b18724abfa	5.146.194.xxx	Aachen, Germany
624adc408834f87916fbbafe809e3d814a05ca94d372001b7f2163305bfb0890	117.171.166.xxx	Jiujiang, China
b07f3cc89a0770ad4af63dc9d1090abe1ea2f0e3ab9bc82f5c9af377d8d2cceb	186.18.253.xxx	Buenos Aires, Argentina
aa6ca5e7d8e5ca759c0091c3b12b91bca39be6f46970b38df5a19a5bb61f40bc	84.59.222.xxx	Isenburg, Germany
22f6a28c4245593da4999c462f483dfda8dd95561d86e83dbd2a52561abe1c7c	99.129.102.xxx	Austin, USA
8a26b15a95c017e8a0ba02bd329515a44dfc9c6faaf188e0a206f435769a1e14	82.67.247.xxx	Raismes, France
af5e721705958f720f2b4205ffcb8a4488ff918276341cb09014e1e952b5aed8	96.35.34.xxx	Town and Country, USA
f420f9ab4520c7f7b9eb31607b6f88a6f0f327438296fa9de10b4446c6514fe5	208.104.194.xxx	Rock Hill, USA
af1c26f97c7871ebb1f24f1f9597fa2e83c43379150f9122a3bb5754c30c9bc0	181.214.98.xxx	Chicago, USA
e1c997a3e12bc531a1810904d755e914f74d7c10ca6f21ed73c227f80e1bffa7	69.244.168.xxx	Lansing, USA
f2cea20f332c5df82e4e5be0a9a2bbb428f970e4a7ea8f365a4dac5794e9628a	66.41.66.xxx	Minneapolis, USA
052d37cb4b20bfbf252ecd7bf7294acd350cc9bab45646bbd3f715b5c4bfc381	100.11.156.xxx	Philadelphia, USA
e8c4a3428c44f4bf2adc785853e1c45d265ed674c2860b5c2213298814fb2e51	87.156.126.xxx	Laufach, Germany
d4bff5245204e428d43309de4efb8c9f583324116a3b598f0702bb082e0a598c	67.191.64.xxx	Pompano Beach, USA
cde83f2b047a082f7ad5fd40491a286a7d0173838f5a655f8efa7ee1a14d22d7	84.202.208.xxx	Molde, Norway
0c557f9ccd9c74fe7449b0b6feedbd4d682978f52bce8ff225e9db63ca4e5c5f	90.101.64.xxx	Lyon, France
97e050dd4af0317f194bb6a6fe451cf603cce174ca2f6f67cf3ba574c493fb5b	185.203.122.xxx	Chennai, India
0992cd5c139a6449d1730a102474a70e571abd86151265b21835744a497b6c00	45.153.229.xxx	Kiev, Ukraine
a0fc5cb7d4f92acce1478f09df0bb5e3750cb3d414186cf6c7704bcebe1f0e66	65.30.222.xxx	New Berlin, USA
98b31f0016577a0bfbc38d14e5b3e4083b1dbf75a04eac8ed0f3412129568479	82.69.110.xxx	Maidenhead, United Kingdom
0347dacd5a5782383569f3e214a63d094dddcc227ca34e500bc00d3f5389cf10	82.69.110.xxx	Maidenhead, United Kingdom
3b3fcca3519f3b00b4919b1d4934b43824c853d8fb96098e528299ce535c4e17	68.203.5.xxx	Austin, USA
06c459ab93345357dfac1b6e58c55dc8decae7555f2bef70d4d94436eb0744e7	209.93.61.xxx	London, United Kingdom
b641499979ed8ac2eab3f25c80dd77f18fd88bbecd98c474527b639fad272fb9	50.220.121.xxx	Naperville, USA
5713f83710a20f6e2f66e56437ae24aaa43e47506335606687c98f178b260544	50.220.121.xxx	Naperville, USA
311f84b6504ed60948259c2516f932d6db7b611f16467d7441d985794c835eb8	77.181.41.xxx	Ludwigshafen, Germany
8ee2909eb384cb8397494e01ddd3008054f5e2a00e1e52a24f84e3f62fac9a74	77.181.41.xxx	Ludwigshafen, Germany
abe8346294a621996b6ce96bc97078ea760ce58107ab6e58f2a28cc35e20d2eb	98.128.185.xxx	Stockholm, Sweden
3183dfee325ec0d98153eb339bcd3180cf10955c7b586f016004ed526c9337ad	84.1.12.xxx	Budapest, Hungary
b1f88fbd790fe3089b8b3a45f83886043ebc3c5487399d9b5f6ff5e6cb15e1a3	172.116.56.xxx	Santa Monica, USA
0a1a4286091154da6876877c5fca3f42c411f683b12e774a95157de16c4abc70	23.240.231.xxx	Los Angeles, USA
e72445c22f18fceac11d4b588589102cbb63306bc7dadc2709d3b60c1ea81da3	23.240.231.xxx	Los Angeles, USA
f19d4ce0de96c99a3b46f95746e330cbea2348a5fc2bb9940c5b3371ecab87c7	100.15.106.xxx	Washington, USA
96edc8730f22844dd7ca80709358b1efa6027357ebe7602082d33bfc30158863	82.194.156.xxx	Salzburg, Austria
1c7c102ffc34f0b8079b54f0e59f05cdd8523aeea23fd75969edffc28d31e675	93.105.187.xxx	Warsaw, Poland
a7b73055abd433a56c6b060259033334c97a2da1abb71f39629bce224b0d9838	68.53.174.xxx	Brentwood, USA
1f0f3d04fcda49280517612860c7f6b13f1ddbd8462b86301b9e8b1b3df28ecd	68.53.174.xxx	Brentwood, USA
118553d48e0eddf66c417d5f918528b6c47f3aa921cb7598c568f3aeadf198be	80.182.39.xxx	Modena, Italy
23944e4bf9f3a17df9537b7aa305b96b101402172f40f966e07d555edb8b0b10	109.230.30.xxx	Bratislava, Slovakia
b45629f313db5f362f1482e82ec63a518cfe9ebaed4399a6270f5e605e87bbe1	176.250.221.xxx	Edinburgh, United Kingdom
1da35a277faa75f6836af7bc0e931c028d81f69154280bd060d32aaa2f0499cd	72.83.32.xxx	Arlington, USA
c100f6668549e216c740e770632e4eb4832b849d3b52c4c528ecbd086cb77545	86.170.46.xxx	Leeds, United Kingdom
4db83cc955e8304b0548b3f5c763aad02401d77f91463e6631c231bc9fb39dca	104.52.169.xxx	Jackson, USA
d04a4af9dc8239d8239a7ea5c8096e914a84c2b99798e49584a9f8f49b96ac8a	98.253.193.xxx	Indianapolis, USA
d6c3710d323ff806a1e7e16584be0abc1f456122bb60ab71593d846057194dad	85.241.106.xxx	Lisbon, Portugal
93fb6a4e74297d436a0e573a7b84c133ec15eccc7df63adc1500ec2839efa341	75.82.205.xxx	Los Angeles, USA
4a845a77bcf184c383235b57d09ddaf491dfb15e78906869aaedefe9f9e8894b	75.82.205.xxx	Los Angeles, USA
9b115c1938169cd0911e0f59b8d27abd884c7a3f4ae89274d88c7d836ec5ab4b	190.19.49.xxx	Buenos Aires, Argentina
4de66ac15bda45445da35453a4cf488e2faef454df40b52fc0c9a2652f43b06d	202.153.210.xxx	Wetherill Park, Australia
7f8d495e6624015162132e6572503cd7245fef0c809619742fc06362dc9c7413	58.182.176.xxx	Singapore, Singapore
89c1e2c55018461b3870d259a34b823e8696550802eca1d5f7b3eb1279aef2b2	58.182.176.xxx	Singapore, Singapore
f4f60b09bad6c070a88601c1d9f11521640d8a338967a7608c0dd1e648984a4e	58.182.176.xxx	Singapore, Singapore
0b3dc4b3b9d14a91416269c15f6c8a3f7cb5c5434a511392a903f8793be03ee0	198.84.175.xxx	Chatham, Canada
5c8cd46fa7437fda96c41acf26976a2fd39afc1b1d1c275a1a23faa93404a566	99.253.64.xxx	Hamilton, Canada
4a41267f6a2847050aa2058287f520f505109a698c23a9c0d3aa8b4bc68720ae	101.81.250.xxx	Shanghai, China
702fd823ecddd7dcfd95332d2ac09162345c9a18d284375828b2eb8486c64f5f	213.250.21.xxx	Ljubljana, Slovenia
9fc5e70f85c32a2a955d70d40245657fddd09e183ee560a654d81c70c546420d	125.187.63.xxx	Seoul, Korea (Republic of)
aa769f4a45f581e6c7a6356b254e0c8bce4b70e6b4bdb0f8992a120487d6cea9	76.91.24.xxx	Los Angeles, USA

[nullius]

I'm looking forward to seeing some evidence behind these claims.

Simple. Use Monero, find out if you are on the list.

dragonvslinux, I think that by now it’s obvious that badcaca has nothing except s’kiddie-tier bragging, bluffing, and spamming the shit out of this forum with long lists of txids, randomly selected peer IPs, and annotations of what are probably just his own porn fantasies.

Proof:  Simple.  Ask him some technical questions, find out if he has an answer.

I suggest reading the paper.

Having read the actual Dandelion++ paper when it came out, I can safely call this ridiculous.

[...]

You are confusing cause and effect here. Transaction sitting in node's mempool is caused by it being intercepted and then rebroadcast.

There is no such thing as a public mempool on a p2p network level. What you are seeing on the website is a snapshot of one node's mempool. The way dandelion++ works is that the transaction will be put into the original node's mempool, broadcast in stem phase, and if the node doesn't see it again, it will be broadcast in fluff phase. The "not seeing it again" part is the cause of the delay.

Based on a reasonable inference of what you seem to be suggesting that you are trying to do:  The Dandelion++ authors were way ahead of you.  That is an admittedly low standard, because you don’t know what the hell you are doing.  You are listing the IP addresses of random peers, exactly as I said!

§4.4 at p. 17 of the Dandelion++ paper speaks thusly:



If you claim to be defeating Dandelion++’s random timers, then please show your work with maths and stuff.  (LOL, as if.)

[monero_badcaca]

Monero BADCACA sybil attack is still here, despite the claims that it has been fixed. If your tansaction is waiting for a few minutes in the mempool, badcaca node got it.

Here is 100 Monero users who trusted in its privacy yesterday, are you on that list?:

Txid	IP Address	City	Favourite porn
a8f23d5c9e61486548cefd086f3ac1ac38252cd9c84ae323de11cedc8060ff6b	139.28.217.xxx	Amsterdam, Netherlands	child
79623827ad311b9efc927e45901a36eb26c5dc22005aea6b03e45a6ecd690758	92.119.17.xxx	Atlanta, USA	incest
7d1919e1e9a6d3b1a43edcffb52b65e1b517448e1bfd1c5e5a76b4af337ec74c	86.106.121.xxx	New York City, USA	incest
035de190ad091e4b6c66911c93c1189f12774b0ae8b9a3f61eefa39c010350a6	94.134.102.xxx	Hanover, Germany	incest
5bca100ae27f2135d400752af90fef85e91024f70159f41ed3ff0619fdb82e38	94.134.102.xxx	Hanover, Germany	incest
a6de6dd1c382787cdb7f24ac6172ed4ce891c7426680c9f0d6b806bc105e6530	217.138.213.xxx	Montreal, Canada	teen
9bde3c37c95d98146bb0e16755ceb31cd95c046a9af2b8f93566d4b8ab458939	174.94.155.xxx	Montreal, Canada	teen
ad15417d261b7cef86200c52490bedf0f1aa85e7c1debd1d3fca0cf3f8547d53	174.94.155.xxx	Montreal, Canada	teen
77f44b4cd4bad2d00807a5d0fb12df12ba61c784ef54f9c31556b8f0c944dcf6	152.89.160.xxx	Belgrade, Serbia	interracial
5f5c21941aafead6a85402af7d89ee3d762fad980dd0528992578a92d0f4e30d	121.99.242.xxx	Auckland, New Zealand
05b3b3ef587cb0c2186b0c0ce4d0bb289c9c5e6277fc884d21734976b70f9c84	75.177.141.xxx	Apex, USA
d54ab6c41a57073c239fdbfbef7924a20ff3d838e23b3127b6abf12376b094b8	83.85.97.xxx	Rotterdam, Netherlands
4baac58be5cccf8417d2bd0744acc78d5507bd3bfcafbec159e6b15a9b4496c0	73.98.209.xxx	Salt Lake City, USA
820e1b79c1547f4987baf8579e38b95a2d644a65584e8f5f236844a0650661e1	59.27.10.xxx	Seoul, Korea (Republic of)
50d5dffc87e10b54ffae1ce95d4eb9191c0eed6a60d233738e3eafbcd4f0bac5	109.230.30.xxx	Bratislava, Slovakia
52e1a95e72c12ed4d50af87fbd43fe343a67ad88257d61efb3b1d6cb94aff3b7	84.118.170.xxx	Siegen, Germany
a279bf76d81180148d896177250f64cac259c0404e289b92388288b501611bcd	205.206.248.xxx	Calgary, Canada
ec1856f9730a140c4c436003bf47618b148a47080a65f06b313892499912c4a4	98.200.198.xxx	Houston, USA
0b7f9c3d35f367d279669a4469d50be4a28f08ed291cfc5ee25a485a7f095c14	66.25.142.xxx	Harker Heights, USA
d053eb3712686f9adb6e2eb3b5f15f3e97c6c3bf7585ed2553e63282cab60014	203.219.241.xxx	Melbourne, Australia
1ee5484e3172771a2305f40896e0254bb9420467bf7a56eeeb058ae06d69f64e	68.53.174.xxx	Brentwood, USA
0328f869f8369f9ae3c9a179ffd40b965efea526cb347e88a087dfc0942fcb1a	176.23.22.xxx	Copenhagen, Denmark
1049a065b4f11b5b16c952b3d23355e125ea077a670da5a842eacc50389c24be	70.106.218.xxx	Arlington, USA
1d581d1009bbbb0584aee79fa5e0e4362aa122f612e8769c2cdb75df3ed6caf7	84.202.208.xxx	Molde, Norway
3fa9409b742c7e066aad2f619c758e20d31ac168624be90f56a04adce33ffcd4	71.238.235.xxx	Little Rock, USA
077565a486f496ccbe52bd51e78dc349f842a5e830d527399e86d141c5624457	151.226.73.xxx	Daresbury, United Kingdom
f08886ca2c52d71e88332e15b4b8e4d1ca84ce8a131f92a5eb48e36dd7b6a9ae	23.115.236.xxx	Stone Mountain, USA
4e5af414dba9d0cab5c8e46d19e2eb039cde99ca879ba12ada127495e4884642	145.255.180.xxx	Karasu, Kazakhstan
1b6b390b6096e2ca374ea6077ffcee7b717c49ca6e3f32f6dad539359fc81182	66.189.42.xxx	Worcester, USA
e6ee4ace97f08f265b79165bbdcee3a4857791a685c085800e657a90c19c7e65	37.24.207.xxx	Monchengladbach, Germany
c1f80fdcc4939f26626c34247b9d1a5fcfe0325953dcdd3e1719d01edd903ccd	85.238.103.xxx	Odessa, Ukraine
6a86cebedb564b4721b53863f51b696d16bdaf4eb7c77b5f1a7b7b74fd67301a	136.56.52.xxx	Morrisville, USA
776f263064b745cfbc3361d617d8f029f72d5352433928af6bb62ab31628c071	118.136.3.xxx	Jakarta, Indonesia
c60eed69688c671d7fd16551b90bc70161c0da333141a66d87cc8c0a27244f1d	37.4.233.xxx	Berlin, Germany
43451f8e8e34a8653952fe2cb9ef35dc6629b6232733d4e3435f96d7dec8a96b	50.39.99.xxx	Beaverton, USA
8578ccdb5bf2439907b3ce6117a16ec09f2f56f6ecc1301cfc67835d20f8012d	75.142.98.xxx	Long Beach, USA
0fe1beb20228221a2048b7afb7fef6b775605036263198154b0cbb33f348716a	173.216.88.xxx	Batesville, USA
9c1d42ff54df5ae239badab3d75246cf53b0492a7740ef78143b14260ca8db70	100.11.156.xxx	Philadelphia, USA
6517ba5105551208897142aad3971e82ac3fde52728b178e063394555777d284	2.204.231.xxx	Berlin, Germany
8f9593542cf038480f9bb878c1640c7d7ceb2265ea3d7af3e925d1623242c78a	89.179.124.xxx	Moscow, Russia
e299069abce252ce8e91a01b20218a5794fb9d80ea7f3f77014a3473f2502f1b	97.121.165.xxx	Colorado Springs, USA
5967dfe4b96c120f07c6805b496e2bfd79a3f8bce5a163ed21351f0a735a265b	85.203.45.xxx	Amsterdam, Netherlands
978ca2151807c8945027470a4edfe4d04bbc8a7acef2756aa2a6d0a7e864afab	203.129.54.xxx	Subiaco, Australia
4dd6afb68bff4a9571dfa52672290d6fd5a8cddc0d6bd9641c29d9f536434f6b	108.173.237.xxx	Edmonton, Canada
16918c7367fdbadcd25f11c3799f783fff71067228a293c16102a8004d133d9e	67.240.190.xxx	Portland, USA
af6765b523810d66cc7fb50646c884818dd2bdfaf79b294031f8f5bfbf434561	68.203.5.xxx	Austin, USA
588ffd96e06206b778a43706d7ceaa76306bd6eb1df848b4f1dc06e9c532198e	98.155.248.xxx	Lahaina, USA
f983187219de0db7d34c293725b1f1aef407a2e0db68b071dbb7167b4bad999a	47.20.125.xxx	Brooklyn, USA
624063927318e2b626119a7f29b516d5a962ccdc8b7adb59b4f2011c24b22567	68.0.147.xxx	Tucson, USA
5fc6f86e56bffeb6cc428f580057a00363fd9ce865b8a7d1395618361fe9e8f0	24.121.207.xxx	Flagstaff, USA
4a752beb0e7d1b3aae4cb9ed9104a9e59337a03e5ccbd9d97ddec63600a506ae	99.145.235.xxx	San Diego, USA
550bf062f21077b2b880cf7ee487ea1307929a427f17dc407bca13eb582ae9a9	178.112.11.xxx	Maria Enzersdorf, Austria
87c3733df0fe0a3b58611e3e6d4f4c345e9642170026d0b508eeea7095f24778	217.225.193.xxx	Munich, Germany
b3a0f3c6f8208d3bace25ca737b44f7686534035a4c4820d2b3bf28c837bb33c	87.99.38.xxx	Wroclaw, Poland
2e451d29a6efa3a7598e67c581e162561c26b4bf6bac45f89f056c1f889489c0	24.201.220.xxx	Quebec, Canada
ec0a9539bdc7f3f2c2750b658ee3d5dfbd99273e2407ba293d1b3717b5bdbe0e	124.190.195.xxx	Sydney, Australia
aeff2be72b2636b3ed9dde54b6d38e48f285a2d3a36370a1ca0704054714cb7a	113.100.164.xxx	Meizhou, China
966ada7689f58b735a0a1498ad4264f223c99e08a4cbf4628db8422e886897cf	81.250.251.xxx	Charleville-Mezieres, France
96abca14956ea33b8bbd7eaef056adcc1dd8988792f3dd78b0355340b8d4badc	60.241.48.xxx	Ryde, Australia
00616c7fa4d46fec6cbcf5be91856915d09cd0e888fa3415bc4502fbf43221f5	95.223.75.xxx	Frankfurt am Main, Germany
12eda355f3b416bdfbbdb6fd8d23fdb59ec103120c41b6942fc506983f70bb14	190.88.176.xxx	Willemstad, Curacao
d4ff2830ea3526fd0b1bc1c89509c1004cfe196415107bcedc317bc8ac7e633f	47.219.23.xxx	Tyler, USA
9b6fa6478b492b3d3229851d03dc4df060372091ac79faa0be73f516a611a5e2	76.91.24.xxx	Los Angeles, USA
752bf7108d259d7e61d9e2fb3cf08edeff15f887b1bed86a477d7b0844963b60	58.176.248.xxx	Hong Kong, Hong Kong
7d3e29d81e1f39a7818094fac67cdb9839e720fcf44dbf773f462daae6f9644c	95.103.133.xxx	Zilina, Slovakia
2ec2ace87739ceae1022326e592666d1e11eaf1471e4c09db8dfa08862f9bcfc	68.103.245.xxx	Wichita, USA
b119832c515df86eaf5ec8aee47b867cb806e079d15d3d9d2bfec6fa8d6b0226	135.23.93.xxx	Ottawa, Canada
c89adbc8260723f807e1fad7a94c618ff9a687ba0d4dc1e78c20be919a1fe78c	86.121.150.xxx	Voluntari, Romania
e0488bc6399263ff895f30f233c13fe72802ad35f4a76e82f31405fd6ca0b7b2	90.91.212.xxx	Paris, France
eade72340933dfff7a53cf0387e9fba9164467e80e63ebab1196e8148f83f0cd	114.34.166.xxx	Taipei, Taiwan
b7403277da95e20edb58ff090ae10f3f3ba5b5040758d0acc08bd87ca0dac78a	162.104.170.xxx	Columbia, USA
9858b2b523c2b580067accb8c5d3842a3745e30effbadb8be37b92ef2a764d0d	82.64.20.xxx	Agonac, France
2cf1b1133ffdfbe67e04ee56c930565c5361950975acc999156dfb1d01ae68ca	98.253.193.xxx	Indianapolis, USA
9b599cc8251d172652e55672818cd109e759bf41113d9d017dda84ce048f90d2	70.127.119.xxx	Tampa, USA
00b63a086b6640a5ad999ba3c1e9ada957e077cb0a7123addc7b6bc16ca8fdeb	70.127.119.xxx	Tampa, USA
585e39162f0fb9c4115a09b451b9e142670242eb52ecf6cf91b9c4cf9db6d99c	93.104.161.xxx	Hof, Germany
bb3fdf36db23268e0d0304e540ccab36d77be57b1e6ee8dc53f3c5448243513d	74.98.228.xxx	Pittsburgh, USA
c06b86b8f31c1f44522dacc37d633ef037001608faaf43fc30b26a36c8bb2d1c	76.121.136.xxx	Seattle, USA
33ec064483586fb1d5363fb5ae4d17fad6ae42b3ca5e1c22e8639428d1a6c40b	76.121.136.xxx	Seattle, USA
32d3bdd8a1ec7f84812474f920a2ebb6f3ee646fe1ff33833b12b1fed252a80b	65.60.253.xxx	Columbus, USA
94fef72e529a61e7796f524d891053ba7203338375d09e003207d5edb2c6f71c	65.60.253.xxx	Columbus, USA
3d7bf863b1132c5bbf68fde1aa54b3b7f7c68e603d54d5d28d61be5bc653a10e	120.148.37.xxx	Saint Andrews Beach, Australia
c93a91241472292327a03d6710b1b931d5ca7917dd9d96fbe9e6a5a87e714d76	82.3.12.xxx	London, United Kingdom
d0187b3ee5a47d23d8ad6d343790f1ac42ed36ffad036c203566929014d89f19	137.27.174.xxx	Fort Worth, USA
9b6c1922db4cc54565b335ebb31b4051881741841d57e9450f43e71ffe44158f	61.186.18.xxx	Haikou, China
37dfbb128680675c7322a7cc2bd9bcbc2dcd51d838db368cff70fcceec5ff6ef	61.186.18.xxx	Haikou, China
825eba0437b4dc9ecabc1f7f6b35cb93e09499a41be0db935a422edb71e68dcd	45.153.229.xxx	Kiev, Ukraine
de3714efaa48dbbe514adde6a455059f05fb25a659247c5dc7a700e7b7d00c0c	45.153.229.xxx	Kiev, Ukraine
f91c6fe9288e8f01962e952a86842a87bdb8cef8c404bff11e3d45b1278c189c	75.169.42.xxx	Salt Lake City, USA
827a6e00d1c6afd608731a0a7651f4a2ed97581561772e96d2dae98da4b0828b	75.169.42.xxx	Salt Lake City, USA
7dcf23e6c1af4142d93687f154be32a05f23f1da68dfefdd74aac6b2757484fb	98.167.66.xxx	Las Vegas, USA
93b267d80e34cb8af1e65ba757e42f149886b36b4f4c77de25f0432165156302	170.75.164.xxx	Port Coquitlam, Canada
66cc95111e3d389be8f00346f10999fea70b7c0df6859b662ba4e2927e9650a2	67.4.193.xxx	Eagan, USA
925912bd08f27595bed36c7a321765d8f4ecc7722db4507bda2215d4f529e142	67.4.193.xxx	Eagan, USA
17434712eb7b3347bae2b899594807462eaca90a80fad3410d62b27aa535072e	178.147.26.xxx	Igoumenitsa, Greece
2d24443a0bdd2ec8c80227f12e68d5315301d0541f519cad3bc7d8ab9c2e4663	72.226.6.xxx	Woodside, USA
ed822eee8769179d1f8a63039aa2125b26c81f5f33d890448861b2a33bc23b71	27.94.74.xxx	Saitama, Japan
c7751e8b7d72c4d88a3a8b2ec66c928e8b661edd404740d56815301577985773	69.142.189.xxx	Union, USA
9fd5a50648b853bb32b7964c3a8bd5b759633488575ccf4aa8f6ab1fee56f947	69.142.189.xxx	Union, USA
a26c05637c65bdf0734e29f1503c256ff227701744aa3da2fceea3717c06db7b	86.6.75.xxx	London, United Kingdom
e9953b8fbf6a5c7849cf7defc2206f75a22bf794d4acf0031abe7828cbd59c61	86.6.75.xxx	London, United Kingdom
3438ba836d71a47a4c7d183a3a69a76ee05ba6e94a838119d8c6d072157c7f2a	86.170.46.xxx	Leeds, United Kingdom
fb89a1b5a0fe1028f67fb2bf1a6a4445851dd9c86d038abd01401d6d6be7832b	47.32.178.xxx	San Luis Obispo, USA
b6cfad7b11432ca7a814cc34801132ba73a1d3937918347c1b151d9bb322306f	47.32.178.xxx	San Luis Obispo, USA
905848f706cf9e3b83749fd616f0d8f81e99770efc351d8162502b97acf28317	186.122.57.xxx	Buenos Aires, Argentina
22115797be1944bc557f9a69437edb93f119671006b6aebef1ffbfbad1c13958	219.251.180.xxx	Kwangju, Korea (Republic of)
1ca68ab94e6c8cb421013bb861ca5b75a987f741f2281b08ecfeefe84eddfcf6	219.251.180.xxx	Kwangju, Korea (Republic of)
2943f20e774416ac529cab6b4356e90d8e0d251dfb85fa9438534ca63d39d44a	109.90.2.xxx	Weckrieden, Germany
a70678de7f9de1387e3115600bdbd10e4f46b24c3d8c62711d2cc62a23908813	66.131.18.xxx	Montreal, Canada
b79c3014fe87e63fd711488bc593909abb005756220719d921073c1f36d48bf7	193.58.196.xxx	Kosice, Slovakia
78db32de2c4d28839df28cd398faa9bf8e0dbbe1fb6e1f21379bf4ff5499bc00	82.67.247.xxx	Raismes, France
25fbebd87ad7b91b19ded304b39b2dff7baaf24fc95ceffa79ca9569c92a826a	47.185.218.xxx	Plano, USA
597042db2210b4b3d999fd909a3e5d773256cf43c3c192b3159e76bd02fc7aa8	47.185.218.xxx	Plano, USA
e38ad1f98b04cbfb1836184c9a8b3c97736c5aeef4b9b5417319b4baafed342a	172.116.56.xxx	Santa Monica, USA

[dragonvslinux]

I'm looking forward to seeing some evidence behind these claims.

Simple. Use Monero, find out if you are on the list.

dragonvslinux, I think that by now it’s obvious that badcaca has nothing except s’kiddie-tier bragging, bluffing, and spamming the shit out of this forum with long lists of txids, randomly selected peer IPs, and annotations of what are probably just his own porn fantasies.

I'm aware. There is no documentation of how this was done or methods that can be reproduced so that others can arrive to same conclusions, or evidence what-so-ever that any of these IP addresses are connected to actual users. I left neutral feedback referencing the previous page as it's nothing but hot air at this point.

You don't need to get too philosophical with this to see it's complete horse shit.

Edit: Had to re-submit feedback as post deleted meant your post got moved to page 1. Re-Referenced.

[monero_badcaca]

Monero BADCACA sybil attack is still here, despite the claims that it has been fixed. If your tansaction is waiting for a few minutes in the mempool, badcaca node got it.

Here is 100 Monero users who trusted in its privacy yesterday, are you on that list?:

Txid	IP Address	City	Favourite porn
54a2aa0cc5bbd948c17dfd9c429d66c71acf8c36bb0f6b44b22503fad76e187b	154.21.21.xxx	Washington, USA	incest
34dd786c10556849f0418644921769f3d2af2ed83b7c9f1e8b5315966e4470dc	5.180.62.xxx	Muenster, Germany	incest
8aa654870e2fe6ad6ca2762bc7d9847feba759f49d1bb1c8ae407e2f5b67d591	85.203.45.xxx	Amsterdam, Netherlands	incest
d7fc4fbaa6634f0a9cc0b15b91cd72c7f18e745b7f5a9c5906e65ff2bfc586ad	185.156.175.xxx	Zurich, Switzerland	incest
bf6e8c719d91d8ad783ba5cb6fb61b50baf507b80de9899b34bbf898fccf6372	174.94.155.xxx	Montreal, Canada	teen
e0bf4722f6b16514e79dfb8e6c44c72ea55a3990e9781de7c081b49839793fff	14.199.50.xxx	Lung Wo Tsuen, Hong Kong
cb784b4eb7061d5e4bf017659828d05da5da9ec095b8b4d4f8b9f5230157ade5	71.131.70.xxx	Dallas, USA
636f4a75a1e2398f0c0a681c3859433de0df42b854cb2ad23b85b25c61fddcb6	68.53.174.xxx	Brentwood, USA
84fb6cbacb89a21c4d9c35271bc57b8d8e7ceeb105974d7c9a671ebb7d4c1396	99.145.235.xxx	San Diego, USA
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Then when will be the authority to investigate in it? If it has cause some mess like human trafficking, porn access to porn ban areas or the likes of these crimes. I think also it is wise to investigate platform that has been accepting the coins or all its connection that could be related to criminal activities. Lastly, if there will be a clear evidence that could put them in jail hopefully all the individuals involve will going to pay the mess they did.