Casino workers forced into unpaid leave

[Questat]

To get a permanent job in my country, you must quit your previous employer.

What if I find a new employer first or apply for a new job, when I'm hired then I will just quit from my previous employer. Is it allowed? Won't I be sued if I do this? Unpaid leaves is really not good especially if you have responsibilities to take care of.

I guess that will not be a problem because we can hide that we apply for a new job in the other office from our office or company. And when we are being accepted as a new employee at the new office, we can tell our old office that we resign from our job. I think you will not be sued and you still get paid from the last month because you still work with your old office. People will not want to get unpaid leaves because they can not get their income, and that is why they search for a new job before they resign from the current office.

It's our right to apply for a job, do we think that our previous employer are still interested of employing us if they have already force us for unpaid leave, that's a common sense, you know what it means and you know what to do, if there's someone who has the right to sue, it should not be the employer, but you as an employee.

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[FontSeli]

To get a permanent job in my country, you must quit your previous employer.

What if I find a new employer first or apply for a new job, when I'm hired then I will just quit from my previous employer. Is it allowed? Won't I be sued if I do this? Unpaid leaves is really not good especially if you have responsibilities to take care of. Even if they live alone or doesn't have a family yet, it's still hard to depend on their parents. What's more difficult is if they start borrowing money from others just to live.

You can look for a new job while you are working on your old one. But you cannot sign a contract for a new permanent job before you have terminated your contract with your previous employer. Otherwise, you will get extremely bad references in your employment history.
However, in our country, the law prohibits sending your employees on unpaid leave for more than 1 month. And an employee can refuse even such a vacation.

[Debonaire217]

It's sad but not the worse.
We all have been hit hard by the pandemic and without profits from our employers, there is no way they could pay every employee.
You cannot blame them for that. They can provide but they need a share from the government.
Imagine giving away money for a year. How could they start over without capital left in their pockets?
Then, employees will have no jobs to go back to.
This is one of the reasons why I started working from home.

Employees have the rights to get their salary based on the average salary that must be taken per day. Employees must have additional salary for the overtime he/she did on a particular day. Bonuses are a different matter and other things. These are some of the things that is in the law and I think if I were the employee there I would
still work for them but when time comes I will probably leave. As an employee, I would demand that I have the rights that should be mine even if a pandemic comes because I am working for the company itself and the company is profiting even if its small, still it have.

[covfefe_]

It's sad but not the worse.
We all have been hit hard by the pandemic and without profits from our employers, there is no way they could pay every employee.
You cannot blame them for that. They can provide but they need a share from the government.
Imagine giving away money for a year. How could they start over without capital left in their pockets?
Then, employees will have no jobs to go back to.
This is one of the reasons why I started working from home.

Employees have the rights to get their salary based on the average salary that must be taken per day. Employees must have additional salary for the overtime he/she did on a particular day. Bonuses are a different matter and other things. These are some of the things that is in the law and I think if I were the employee there I would
still work for them but when time comes I will probably leave. As an employee, I would demand that I have the rights that should be mine even if a pandemic comes because I am working for the company itself and the company is profiting even if its small, still it have.

Employee and employer relation are not always the large corporate and helpless individual. Most of the corporate industry are providing some reduced allowances and working shift to the employee as things seem to open a bit even though the health situation might be deteriorating. It's the small business and it's employee that are being affected the most and with the situation of the pandemic, not everyone are able to provide or get help where needed. I just hope everybody of us would get through the situation and if we can't control the virus, we should accelerate the vaccine for the needed and accept to live with the virus.

[FlightyPouch]

It is going to be a tough situation for the casino owners. And let's remember the fact that not all of the casinos are owned by billionaires like Sheldon Adelson. A number of them are owned by small-scale owners such as various native American reservations. So I don't expect all of these casinos to have enough cash reserves to pay their employees even if they remain closed for an extended period.

Yeah, that is the point. We should also understand their part, they are doing their business and I think they are also thinking that they are sorry about what happened to these workers. Still, I hope they could easily find another job. This time, it is hard to find a job since most of the businesses and stores are closed or have limited customers so usually they manage it on their own.

[Kelvinid]

It is going to be a tough situation for the casino owners. And let's remember the fact that not all of the casinos are owned by billionaires like Sheldon Adelson. A number of them are owned by small-scale owners such as various native American reservations. So I don't expect all of these casinos to have enough cash reserves to pay their employees even if they remain closed for an extended period.

Yeah, that is the point. We should also understand their part, they are doing their business and I think they are also thinking that they are sorry about what happened to these workers. Still, I hope they could easily find another job. This time, it is hard to find a job since most of the businesses and stores are closed or have limited customers so usually they manage it on their own.

We are nearly getting back to the normal situation just like before and those jobless individuals will get back to work after a long vacation, after being fired up. I don't think there is a misunderstanding with the situation because if we are also running a business or putting ourselves into them, we might have to make such a decision as well even it was really hard on our part losing people who are working good to the company.
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[newwest]

It is going to be a tough situation for the casino owners. And let's remember the fact that not all of the casinos are owned by billionaires like Sheldon Adelson. A number of them are owned by small-scale owners such as various native American reservations. So I don't expect all of these casinos to have enough cash reserves to pay their employees even if they remain closed for an extended period.

Yeah, that is the point. We should also understand their part, they are doing their business and I think they are also thinking that they are sorry about what happened to these workers. Still, I hope they could easily find another job. This time, it is hard to find a job since most of the businesses and stores are closed or have limited customers so usually they manage it on their own.

Tenure wise some of the big casinos which has millions of profits can easily pay to their workers partially if not full since it will affect only their profitability. But for those workers whose family might be dependent on their income does not have anything so surviving becomes difficult. This is the testing time on earth where humanity needs to come from within and help as much as possible as once pandemic is over probably those families will become a part of your growing organization and stays with you forever as you helped them when they needed the most.

[jostorres]

What if I find a new employer first or apply for a new job, when I'm hired then I will just quit from my previous employer. Is it allowed? Won't I be sued if I do this? Unpaid leaves is really not good especially if you have responsibilities to take care of. Even if they live alone or doesn't have a family yet, it's still hard to depend on their parents. What's more difficult is if they start borrowing money from others just to live.

You can do this I believe because you haven't signed under the new employer yet and are only discussing payment and work hours and once you feel the new employer offers better rewards and less work than your pervious employer, I believe you are free to join them after aborting your current agreement.

It's not just casino but most of the customer interaction based business has followed the same. Traveling and hospitality business suffered the most and casino are just a small part of it. Airlines and hotels too have sent off most of it's staff on unpaid leave. It's difficult for tourism based individual entrepreneur like myself to sustain when there are no people traveling anymore.

They must have given a few months of salary but to be honest how can we expect them to pay for elongated period of time to their employees when they are not earning anything from their services.

[blockman]

It's not just casino but most of the customer interaction based business has followed the same. Traveling and hospitality business suffered the most and casino are just a small part of it. Airlines and hotels too have sent off most of it's staff on unpaid leave. It's difficult for tourism based individual entrepreneur like myself to sustain when there are no people traveling anymore.

But everything looks going back to what it used to be. Does anyone has an update regards to this casino that has decided to make their workers go into an unpaid leave?
From news that I've been watching, things are going back with the new normal and business establishments are operating with health protocol measure.

[michellee]

I guess that will not be a problem because we can hide that we apply for a new job in the other office from our office or company. And when we are being accepted as a new employee at the new office, we can tell our old office that we resign from our job. I think you will not be sued and you still get paid from the last month because you still work with your old office. People will not want to get unpaid leaves because they can not get their income, and that is why they search for a new job before they resign from the current office.

It's our right to apply for a job, do we think that our previous employer are still interested of employing us if they have already force us for unpaid leave, that's a common sense, you know what it means and you know what to do, if there's someone who has the right to sue, it should not be the employer, but you as an employee.

I don't think they will be interested in using us as their employee because they can quickly get a new employee with cheap paid. They can use a reason to force us for unpaid leave, so they can search the new people to replace our position. So we have a right to apply to the new job which can give more than the old job, and I am sure that we can get it from many ways if we don't stop to search. Maybe that will look not fair, but that is what happens in real life, not just in the casino but also in other businesses.

[jrrsparkles]

It is going to be a tough situation for the casino owners. And let's remember the fact that not all of the casinos are owned by billionaires like Sheldon Adelson. A number of them are owned by small-scale owners such as various native American reservations. So I don't expect all of these casinos to have enough cash reserves to pay their employees even if they remain closed for an extended period.

Yeah, that is the point. We should also understand their part, they are doing their business and I think they are also thinking that they are sorry about what happened to these workers. Still, I hope they could easily find another job. This time, it is hard to find a job since most of the businesses and stores are closed or have limited customers so usually they manage it on their own.

But this is not only happening with casino workers, almost every business are under the crisis so we can't blame the casino owners alone and can't blame them. Now the  casinos are making more money than their average so they could compensate the workers or else just keep the workers for their service to you in the past.

[South Park]

We cannot blame companies doing the lay-offs because they probably can’t afford to operate after the lockdown anymore but they should have atleast compensated well their employees. Macau’s temporary closure of casinos could really hurt their industry, employees switching to other jobs is inevitable in tough times like this.

No, we can blame. First of all, they make tons of money and salary isn't that high in every company, in overall proportion of income / salary is very high and illogical. And another example that I can tell you is that Evolution Gaming left up to 1500 worker without job, just in one day. Is this fair? They are really making tons of money and pay tiny amount of money to their workers (still good in their country but...) and instead of paying some money to their employees on covid situation that was worse for everyone, they decided to just ignore them (forget lawsuit, they would win because of great lawyers and bad country).

It is not as simple, anyone that has ever had a business knows that what can kill a business are recurring costs, costs that are in frequent even if they are very high can be made as long as enough planning goes into those purchases but recurring costs like salaries constitute the majority of the expenses in most companies and so physical casinos have really no other option but to fire their employees or to send them home without a pay because they had been one of the industries that have been the most affected by this pandemic.

[finaleshot2016]

It is going to be a tough situation for the casino owners. And let's remember the fact that not all of the casinos are owned by billionaires like Sheldon Adelson. A number of them are owned by small-scale owners such as various native American reservations. So I don't expect all of these casinos to have enough cash reserves to pay their employees even if they remain closed for an extended period.

Yeah, that is the point. We should also understand their part, they are doing their business and I think they are also thinking that they are sorry about what happened to these workers. Still, I hope they could easily find another job. This time, it is hard to find a job since most of the businesses and stores are closed or have limited customers so usually they manage it on their own.

We are nearly getting back to the normal situation just like before and those jobless individuals will get back to work after a long vacation, after being fired up. I don't think there is a misunderstanding with the situation because if we are also running a business or putting ourselves into them, we might have to make such a decision as well even it was really hard on our part losing people who are working good to the company.

Agree to this, it's also a risk for the owner, if they didn't force some workers to leave, then the business might get affected and the worst part is it might not continue. The pandemic affects us all, not only the workers but also the owners.

But if the casino has a lot of profits before the pandemic, they should've given consideration and doesn't use the pandemic as an excuse to remove workers. Casinos aren't similar, some really need to lessen to maintain the profit.

[dimonstration]

It's not just casino but most of the customer interaction based business has followed the same. Traveling and hospitality business suffered the most and casino are just a small part of it. Airlines and hotels too have sent off most of it's staff on unpaid leave. It's difficult for tourism based individual entrepreneur like myself to sustain when there are no people traveling anymore.

Tourism and Recreation Activities really been affected by these Pandemic, many employees in my country became a floating status from regular job without payment hoping that everything will be fine sooner, but these move open many employees turn to entrepreneurs or doing online jobs. It does not meant we will stop working since we're on leave, let's use this time to really find way to quit our job and be our own boss by having business.

[Fredomago]

It's not just casino but most of the customer interaction based business has followed the same. Traveling and hospitality business suffered the most and casino are just a small part of it. Airlines and hotels too have sent off most of it's staff on unpaid leave. It's difficult for tourism based individual entrepreneur like myself to sustain when there are no people traveling anymore.

Tourism and Recreation Activities really been affected by these Pandemic, many employees in my country became a floating status from regular job without payment hoping that everything will be fine sooner, but these move open many employees turn to entrepreneurs or doing online jobs. It does not meant we will stop working since we're on leave, let's use this time to really find way to quit our job and be our own boss by having business.

If you wanted to survive you will do everything to make it happened, there's no other way but to continue to live. Even those people are being force to take leave of absences without any payments, most of them are finding other sources for their  financial needs, online marketing are their alternatives, try to sell something or offer skills that they can get clients to pay them.

Offshore casinos are business that needs physical interactions same alike with other businesses which been really hit hard by this
pandemic, they need to do things like this to cover all the expenses that they need to meet for the business to continue to stay facilitating.

[tyz]

Now 8% of them are thinking of switching to new jobs.

The only question is where to go? Tourism is down and almost all casinos in the world have a problem due to less turnover. And it doesn't look any better in other industries in countries in South-East Asia. Casinos are known to pay relatively well, so it would be foolish to change jobs now.

[just_Alice]

Now we can see a perfect example that demonstrates huuuge privileges of online gambling and casinos in particular. I bet not only they aren't facing a crisis, while everyone else is, but are actually gaining more revenue now, because the gamblers never stopped playing, right? They switched to online 

[Hamphser]

Now we can see a perfect example that demonstrates huuuge privileges of online gambling and casinos in particular. I bet not only they aren't facing a crisis, while everyone else is, but are actually gaining more revenue now, because the gamblers never stopped playing, right? They switched to online 

Thats the other side of things and we are talking mainly on physical casinos on here.Its understandable that those online casinos are taking some benefits now
due to pandemic situation and also they dont really need that much of a worker yet handling out a site wont require much of human work force.
So lets get back to physical casinos then i have a feeling that on next year where the vaccine would already be available soon then these places will start
to open up their doors completely but for now since everything isnt confirmed yet then those workers would really suffer at the moment.
They do just need to hope that their previous employers will consider on rehiring them back once the business had opened or trying to get
revenue gradually.

[MWesterweele]

Now we can see a perfect example that demonstrates huuuge privileges of online gambling and casinos in particular. I bet not only they aren't facing a crisis, while everyone else is, but are actually gaining more revenue now, because the gamblers never stopped playing, right? They switched to online 

Sooner the real casino businesses will adopt online casino and more about the employee or workers they needed must be a worker know more about programming and software issues. And sooner the percentage of non employed will rise. This pandemic has brought to businessman to open up in their mind about online business and transaction. So maybe its a time to switched our minds instead of working at real offices, start worked at our own pace and learned more about digital like online gambling.

[bitterguy28]

Now we can see a perfect example that demonstrates huuuge privileges of online gambling and casinos in particular. I bet not only they aren't facing a crisis, while everyone else is, but are actually gaining more revenue now, because the gamblers never stopped playing, right? They switched to online 

Sooner the real casino businesses will adopt online casino and more about the employee or workers they needed must be a worker know more about programming and software issues. And sooner the percentage of non employed will rise. This pandemic has brought to businessman to open up in their mind about online business and transaction. So maybe its a time to switched our minds instead of working at real offices, start worked at our own pace and learned more about digital like online gambling.

yeah that is the sad part because since the Pandemic time People realizes the importance of playing online than Going in Casino houses in which hassle in time and the chance of infection.
So sooner now gamblling operators will focus in engineering how they can put business in online while they wanted to expand the operation,but the employee will be lessen as there is no need in physical workers.