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I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.
it's ridiculous how these international monitors work
Same for me, I live abroad and all the information I get is from the Internet. I am trying to be critical as much as possible and always ask myself if there is any hidden motivation behind the current results. It's definitely hard to judge from afar. But what I do find curious is that 4 years ago when Trump won the election, many were screaming that election was rigged and influenced by Russian hackers. But right now none if these arguments are being made. So when the republicans win it's all fake, and when the Democrats win everything is legit? Doesn't seem right to me. the curious thing about it was that days after the elections ended, Pfizer appeared to talk about the vaccine and the WHO director Tedros, this time he even praised the results of the Pfizer vaccine. I don't live in the USA, but I know that international observatories should never be trusted if they say the elections went well? so we have to be suspicious. guess what the US and my country elections have in common? the winners had a historic victory of many votes I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.
it's ridiculous how these international monitors work
Note that none of the liberal posters to this forum has said a thing to your post. maybe they're looking for some argument. fact Is that the worst people on that planet are those international observers
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I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.
it's ridiculous how these international monitors work
Same for me, I live abroad and all the information I get is from the Internet. I am trying to be critical as much as possible and always ask myself if there is any hidden motivation behind the current results. It's definitely hard to judge from afar. But what I do find curious is that 4 years ago when Trump won the election, many were screaming that election was rigged and influenced by Russian hackers. But right now none if these arguments are being made. So when the republicans win it's all fake, and when the Democrats win everything is legit? Doesn't seem right to me. the curious thing about it was that days after the elections ended, Pfizer appeared to talk about the vaccine and the WHO director Tedros, this time he even praised the results of the Pfizer vaccine. I don't live in the USA, but I know that international observatories should never be trusted if they say the elections went well? so we have to be suspicious. guess what the US and my country elections have in common? the winners had a historic victory of many votes I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.
it's ridiculous how these international monitors work
Note that none of the liberal posters to this forum has said a thing to your post. maybe they're looking for some argument. fact Is that the worst people on that planet are those international observers I saw your post and reflected on places I have been that were similar. Sad, but very true. And then thought of the absolute ignorance if not idiocy, in someone who would create a thread of this sort to push their chosen narrative.
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I guess it shows a lot about the state of a country when voters have a choice of the same old for another 4 years or the lesser of two evils but that same scenario is playing out in almost every so-called democracy all over the world. Voters really did not connect with Hillary Clinton in 2016 and all the poll forecasts were turned on their heads when Trump won because some of the blue states won by the Obama administration turned red and handed victory to Trump even though Hillary won the popular vote. Something went wrong for Trump this time round even though he did receive several million more votes than in 2016. It was just that the Democrats connected with voters in a way that has not happened for a long time especially by encouraging nobody to waste a single vote and vote by mail if necessary instead of going to the voting stations whereas Trump was actively telling supports to avoid votes by mail. As I was reading what you wrote it seemed like something copied off a news website in the away it is written but you are right, the vote was not rigged. Trump received more votes than he did in 2016 but Biden got more, it is a fact Biden won the popular vote as well as the electoral college and many of those were simply protest votes against Trump and his administration and not because they liked Biden - it might have been case of choosing the lesser of two evils with an anybody-but-Trump mindset as far as some voters were concerned. Pretty large amount of people think this way by the way -- regarding the whole, voting for anyone who isn't Trump. That's a lot of what the Democratic vote was this time around. No one really loves Biden as a candidate, as he really is a moderate democrat who is pretty old in his ways to be leading a party that seems to be going down a VERY different path. He is not a progressive by any means, doesn't matter who he surrounds himself with to appease others. Trump couldn't convince the same Dems who voted for Obama to vote for him this time around, as they really didn't see a lot of change in their way of life -- manufacturing, etc. The thing that went wrong with Trump was the pandemic and how he handled it. This election was THIS close even with a massive pandemic killing a large portion of the economy and leaving millions of people still unemployed. 200k Americans dead. If the pandemic hadn't had happened, or public view of Donald Trump / the administrations handling of the pandemic was better we'd be seeing another term for Trump right now. There's no way you can convince me of anything but that as well. LOL.
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.... The thing that went wrong with Trump was the pandemic and how he handled it. This election was THIS close even with a massive pandemic killing a large portion of the economy and leaving millions of people still unemployed. 200k Americans dead.
If the pandemic hadn't had happened, or public view of Donald Trump / the administrations handling of the pandemic was better we'd be seeing another term for Trump right now. There's no way you can convince me of anything but that as well. LOL.
Not that anyone would want to waste their time trying to convince you, but I'm pretty amused at the idea that politicians are going to claim they can "control" covid or any infectious disease with R=>4.
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November 16, 2020, 05:15:32 AM |
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LOL.. I would like to see the names and other details of these 28 "experts". I am from Asia, and I would say that the election system in the United States is a complete joke. Even the third world countries have a better election system. And as far as the United States is concerned, the level of election fraud seems to go up with every passing election.
The entire "mail in ballot" procedure is prone to vote rigging (despite the ultra-leftists of CNN shouting 10 times a day that there is "no evidence" for the same). There is a reason why most of the countries in the world doesn't have this mail-in-ballot system. Because it is prone to fraud. Everyone knows what is going on in inner cities. Democrat activists collect the postal ballots en masse, and then mark them in favor of their candidates. That is how you have vote dumps of 3000 or 5000 at a time during the election day, all marked for Joe Biden.
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November 16, 2020, 04:30:01 PM |
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The entire "mail in ballot" procedure is prone to vote rigging (despite the ultra-leftists of CNN shouting 10 times a day that there is "no evidence" for the same). There is a reason why most of the countries in the world doesn't have this mail-in-ballot system. Because it is prone to fraud. Everyone knows what is going on in inner cities. Democrat activists collect the postal ballots en masse, and then mark them in favor of their candidates. That is how you have vote dumps of 3000 or 5000 at a time during the election day, all marked for Joe Biden.
That's all no problem because, shut up.
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November 16, 2020, 05:37:18 PM |
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monitors? international election experts? praises? how about phantom deep state stooges spewing globalist cognitive dissonance on the masses?
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November 16, 2020, 05:39:39 PM |
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So in a nutshell, Biden won the popular vote as well as the electoral college... that makes him the next President of the USA regardless of the nonsense Trump and his supporters continue to peddle.
The tragedy for a man like Trump who has an ego the size of the planet Jupiter is that he will become a simple citizen in January 2021 and he only has himself to blame. He deliberately fought a divisive campaign designed to make problems and he lost because the voters rejected him.
It seems more a case of them wanting Biden for the sake of not wanting Trump and now he can join Carter and Bush snr in the recent-era single term presidents club.
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November 16, 2020, 05:44:17 PM Last edit: November 16, 2020, 06:12:31 PM by btctaipei |
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in a nutshell we see the Chinese CCP infiltration were successful, as US government institution can be corrupted so the democratic process can be manipulated by passing funds to the 'big guy'. It is possible to influence the US Election by moving fund and buy out all the key players in non-executive branches of the US government (and, also the 4th branch; aka mocking bird "free press"). And to top that off, getting those US Big tech to surgically censor any election fraud related keyword and perpetuate mass surveillance makes it completely un-noticed by the average USA sheeple. Thus supernational and CCP could now decides who gets voted in, sheeple electorate can't count- they are just sheeps.
the sheeple of Amerika~ bahahahahah~
CCP Holodeck panel will be available. No need to cover up those windows for election monitors at Detroit for the coming 2024 elections. We don't need to hire X-man to see thru covered observation windows. See no evil, know no evil. Vote early, and vote often!
If this works, in future Taiwanese school text book will note that even "super power" democracy like the USA can be brought to its knees with asymmetric political, cyber, and information warfare. we fled to Taiwan against Marxist CCP regime. I guess sheeps could now plan on migrating to Hawaii.
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November 16, 2020, 07:01:25 PM Last edit: November 16, 2020, 11:17:50 PM by BADecker |
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.... Sworn affidavits are not evidence. There was a story of some poll watcher that witnessed tempering who had a sworn affidavit and he openly admitted he made up his voter fraud story. ...
Sworn affidavits is an document provide written testimony with penalty under perjury under oath are admissible in US courts, at local, state and federal level. Legally this is known as "material evidence" However, if the court is a common law, man to man, court of record, where there is no representation by anyone, not attorney and not even the people representing themselves - rather, they are present, unrepresented - the affidavit must be spoken from the stand by the man/woman who originated it, to be acceptable.
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November 16, 2020, 10:14:58 PM |
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in a nutshell we see the Chinese CCP infiltration were successful
....we fled to Taiwan against Marxist CCP regime. I guess sheeps could now plan on migrating to Hawaii.
And you've watched in the last year, a virtual double of the spy tactics, the riots, and the insurrection used by Mao in 1948 against the Nationalists.
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This year's election will be remembered as the most rigged presidential election in the history of the United States. I would say that the votes should be recounted in all the 50 states and then audited by an independent third party. A part of the blame should go to the republican party as well. They should have prepared for this massive level of vote rigging and should have put observers at all the polling booths and counting centers. I understand that they were prevented from doing so in some places, but then this issue should have been highlighted and taken to the courts as soon as it happened.
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This year's election will be remembered as the most rigged presidential election in the history of the United States. I would say that the votes should be recounted in all the 50 states and then audited by an independent third party. A part of the blame should go to the republican party as well. They should have prepared for this massive level of vote rigging and should have put observers at all the polling booths and counting centers. I understand that they were prevented from doing so in some places, but then this issue should have been highlighted and taken to the courts as soon as it happened. I'm totally good with the whole mess being tossed out by the SC and the Congress voting the POTUS option.
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A team of international monitors from the Organization of American States (OAS) has praised the conduct of the US election. <...>
Lol I've never seen any failure give up without complain in my entire life since my existence I was expecting the tears from Trump if Biden could over vote him during election then winning the case in the supreme is certain too no doubt
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November 17, 2020, 01:06:22 PM |
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Nobody from the Democratic party made allegations of voting irregularities, it was made just by Trump supporters and there is no actual evidence that has been presented to any media network or judge that would hold up in a Court of law, there just seems to be a lot of hot air and not much substance in their allegation, in the words of Trump himself: fake news The so-called whistleblower who exposed the vote counting was a self-confessed liar that the Trump supporters jump at the chance of showcasing as their evidence. I think they all feel silly right now. Sworn affidavits are not evidence. There was a story of some poll watcher that witnessed tempering who had a sworn affidavit and he openly admitted he made up his voter fraud story.
To your point though, the media made up their mind as Joe being the winner prior to the election. Fine folks at CNN would have a COVID-19 death counter during their news coverage. Now that Biden is the projected President elect, that counter is magically gone. Almost like they were trying to fear monger or something. Crazy.
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Nobody from the Democratic party made allegations ...
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November 17, 2020, 05:54:33 PM |
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HERE IS THE EVIDENCE of irregularities (315 entries so far) https://hereistheevidence.com/
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