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November 15, 2020, 10:17:20 AM
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Most players are familiar with the KYC system. Especially since this topic has been raised quite a bit at various sites in the last period. That subject cannot be missed.
Personally, I do not think it is a problem to send the KYC and comply with it. I also think it is better if things like this happen at a site in the initial stage and are asked by then.
Then you know where you are, and you have clarity right away. I think every site will eventually switch to requesting KYC documentation.
Depending of course on the status of the player and his ROI. That can have big influence on this process.

We are familiar with KYC but not most players are OK with it especially when we are dealing with gambling activity + in a new site that we have just known.
I doubt that every crypto gambling site will set KYC as mandatory thing eventually, if it happens then there is no benefits of the anonymity of crypto especially bitcoin.


It's kinda bit off if a new casino will ask about that since I cannot trust them up for giving my details while they don't have any reputation yet. Also I believe many doesn't like the KYC procedures since it doesn't give any convenient especially to those random casinos and platforms around. If they set the KYC mandatory I believe many will avoid this site and try later when they get a reputation to stake.

That's the problem with the new casinos they are mandatory asking for KYC but since they are not yet reputable and trusted  many user will not going to register on it unless they are willing to sacrifice their personal information to new casinos. But we cannot blame them since they are just following their protocol from their license.

Not only the old casino, i wont be agree to send my KYC to any old casino too. I understand when trading sites ask for the KYC but i fail to understand why casino require KYC ? If they want to restrict certain countries accessing their site, its better to block those IPs rather than asking for the KYC.
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November 15, 2020, 01:57:30 PM
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Well, it's good that the op replied extensively to the concerns mentioned in this thread. Good communication is the first step towards building trust  Smiley
And if the KYC is not really enforced when one is gambling with small sums, it's not a strict policy, but is a mild one, similar to the policies of other casinos on the forum.
Why are sports bets only virtual? Is it because of the license limitations? If not, are you planning to add betting on real events or will you stick to virtual? I think way more people are interested in the real ones.

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November 15, 2020, 09:10:31 PM
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Is the Friday spins will be renewed every week? Like the players can deposit 50$ to this week and in the other week he was able to deposit 50$ also or it can be claimed once only.

I like also your cashback method as most of the casinos are not offering this kind of feature, 5% is not that big but it can surely help the players to get some of their losses.
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November 15, 2020, 09:43:16 PM
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Well, it's good that the op replied extensively to the concerns mentioned in this thread. Good communication is the first step towards building trust  Smiley
And if the KYC is not really enforced when one is gambling with small sums, it's not a strict policy, but is a mild one, similar to the policies of other casinos on the forum.
Why are sports bets only virtual? Is it because of the license limitations? If not, are you planning to add betting on real events or will you stick to virtual? I think way more people are interested in the real ones.

actually, fast response is really good in building relationship with the community. this will also give the assurance to players that there is a support staff that will hear their issues or concerns.
however, the OP is just an investor on this site. so dont know if he can answer all the queries here...
 yes, they should add actual sports events. there are many sports bettors here, in the forum alone.
and regarding kyc, if you are not really a big timer, i guess there's no prob using this casino as they require kyc only to players with deposits over 1000 euro

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November 16, 2020, 11:54:09 AM
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Most players are familiar with the KYC system. Especially since this topic has been raised quite a bit at various sites in the last period. That subject cannot be missed.
Personally, I do not think it is a problem to send the KYC and comply with it. I also think it is better if things like this happen at a site in the initial stage and are asked by then.
Then you know where you are, and you have clarity right away. I think every site will eventually switch to requesting KYC documentation.
Depending of course on the status of the player and his ROI. That can have big influence on this process.

Hello!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
We believe that KYC is the way to go if we want to remain official and accountable for the EU regulators.

@JohnnyBboy what browser are you using that shows the license validator is valid? I tried it in Firefox, Brave, and Chrome but all are showing it's expired.


Hello!

Opera and chrome works for me w/o any issues. Try resetting the cache on validator website and check again.
The licence is not expired, it is freshly acquired.

Welcome to Bitcointalk.

I have visited your website and I like the design of the website, I hope you are doing more development.
Since you have created an ann thread here, it is your responsibility to design and post it in an interesting way. If the Ann thread is well designed, people will easily get information about your platform. Now it is up to you how you want to present yourself in this forum.

Thank you for your warm welcome to this amazing community!

I'm happy that you liked the website so far.
Surely, I will keep posting answering your questions and informing about our project.
Hope you'll like our amazing updates that we're currently working on

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We may update our KYC rules to state that KYC is mandatory only if you deposit 1000 EUR or more. We don't want any fraud going with our casino (i.e. bonus system abuse) so we keep right to request KYC -- you're right about that.

Just want to clarify this before you implemented. I think it's the other way around? I think it should be withdraw right? since what if we deposit a $100 and might won a jackpot worth $100,000 technically we can withdraw it since the value we only deposit is $100.

Yes, you're right.

The KYC is mandatory for 1000 EUR or higher withdrawals, not deposits.

Thanks for the correction

Ok, then hopefully by Christmas it's already good as what you're planning to rework.

I've missed the discussion about KYC so your answer means that it isn't going to change because you're having a big responsibility to clear your casino.

But you are in a bitcoin forum which most people want to remain anonymous. Maybe your team and management could rework that rule and can still allow players to play but with limitations.

Hello!

About the sports bets we have virtual sports bets ready, as for the real world sports bets we are thinking about it.

As for the KYC, we are obligated to follow these rules to keep transparent record of money flows.
We will still consider some adaptations of our KYC policy based on community feedback we gather.

Thanks!

Is it 1000 EUR limitation is a bit small? To think that there are players which do make deposits of 1BTC or even more considering on the value then it would really be that small for the limit.
and with this kind of rules where asking out some KYC after you deposit 1k will not really make some interest or most likely gamblers specially high rollers will really see this one not interesting.
Unless if this is some sort of typo or a real one then that will really be a problem for some specially whale bettors but for us small time gamblers then this wont be an issue.
About on sites design then its a bit simple but i do still like it rather than with those fancy colors.


Hello!

Yes, the KYC is obligatory for those who withdraw 1000 EUR or more, and we still reserve the right to request KYC if there are some suspicious activity (i.e. multiple accounts)

As for the number, we think it's a fair one, and it will help us to protect the casino from bonus system abuse.

Thank you for your input!


The limit may still be reasonable. maybe they are tied to certain game providers and have no influence whatsoever on setting that limit to?

Hello!

We have over 10000 games from numerous game providers, all licensed.

Game providers don't make us change our policies, this is the policy that we choose as valid at the time.

Thanks for your input!

The website is good, looking at the sport bet option, I thought it might be real sports betting, but soon I realized it was a virtual game. Since it is a new site, I think it would be nice to have some free money or giveaway to check out the games. One more thing, do you have any country restrictions on your gambling website?

Hello!

I'm glad you liked it so far.
As fro your question, Fatunad answered it very well Smiley

Thank you for your interest


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I'm still confused as to why this error message was displaying, I tested out and seen it too but when I switched to other browser it shows just fine.
I Guess there was some technical error on part of the validator website. Just check again with any other browser - it will show correct non-expired validation.
I tried it on google and opera browsers but I still get the same expired message.

Oh, I could just buy rank here? I had no idea!

Thanks for pointing that out, I will do just that and update the OP post Smiley

As for the license -- IDK, some users reporting they have this issue and I had on my other browser for some time but I assure you it's some sort of technical issue and not a license issue.


It's kinda bit off if a new casino will ask about that since I cannot trust them up for giving my details while they don't have any reputation yet. Also I believe many doesn't like the KYC procedures since it doesn't give any convenient especially to those random casinos and platforms around. If they set the KYC mandatory I believe many will avoid this site and try later when they get a reputation to stake.

That's the problem with the new casinos they are mandatory asking for KYC but since they are not yet reputable and trusted  many user will not going to register on it unless they are willing to sacrifice their personal information to new casinos. But we cannot blame them since they are just following their protocol from their license.

Hello

I understand not everybody likes the KYC, but some people prefer that.

Imagine if you won a million dollars and then the tax man comes asking where did it come from.
If you won it in a white hat KYC casino -- it will easy to prove.


 
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How do you think you will deliver this gold to players all over the world?
I think most people here would much more prefer to have the same value of gold in paid in Bitcoins.
Easy to transfer anywhere in the world and I don't have to worry so much about importing and storing like with gold.

The idea with 1kg of gold reward, is to use Swiss/or different private bank. Gold will settle in the bank for the player. Player will also be able to choose other benefits in value of this gold amount - everything is negotiable with our highest VIP players.


Also, when I checked the validity of license using my browser, it says valid.

https://i.imgur.com/d3wAkcq.png

Also, the OP says that they will require KYC if you deposit more than 1k euro.
So below that, no KYC. And if this will be a problem for you, you can always play in other casinos here that don't require KYC.

Thank you!

Really appreciating you taking time to double-check to find out what's really going on there.

As for the KYC mandatory conditions, just wanted to point out it's actually 1000 EUR (or more) withdrawals that trigger mandatory KYC

^ That is not new, every casino is having and required their user to have KYC IF it is winning a big amount. If you are using a small amount there is no need to worry about the KYC. I think for me, I am contented with a small amount to gamble because if I want to gamble, I am looking for some fun not for having a source of income. Nevertheless, if we talk about the site of this gambling company, I like the design and it is looking good. Probably I will get it back and register, for now, looking for more review since they are pretty new here.

Hello DoublerHunter, thank you for your input!

I'm happy that you liked it so far, and as for the reviews -- there are some posted on Askgamblers hopefully we will be able to gather much more soon Smiley

Maybe if they don't ask KYC to people who come to their site, they can trust them.
They can use KYC for gamblers who want to deposit and withdraw more than $1k.
If they can do that, I think many gamblers will try to play gambling on their site, and if they can feel another experience, I think they can stay for some time to play another gambling game.
As other members said, if we feel that it is not right to playing gambling on one site, we can search for another gambling website to feel better.
But the important thing is you need to control yourself, no matter if you play on the regular or new gambling website.

Hello!

We are obligated to do this KYC policy to remain aligned with the regulations and license requirements.
I've noticed that most of the high bidders don't worry about anonymity too much, probably because it's hard to remain anonymous when you have so much cash Smiley

Not only the old casino, i wont be agree to send my KYC to any old casino too. I understand when trading sites ask for the KYC but i fail to understand why casino require KYC ? If they want to restrict certain countries accessing their site, its better to block those IPs rather than asking for the KYC.

Hello!

The KYC policy is not about country restrictions really.
It's about accountability and alignment with the European regulations.

Well, it's good that the op replied extensively to the concerns mentioned in this thread. Good communication is the first step towards building trust  Smiley
And if the KYC is not really enforced when one is gambling with small sums, it's not a strict policy, but is a mild one, similar to the policies of other casinos on the forum.
Why are sports bets only virtual? Is it because of the license limitations? If not, are you planning to add betting on real events or will you stick to virtual? I think way more people are interested in the real ones.

Thank you kryptqnick,

I will keep answering any questions and keep this awesome community updated with our progress Smiley

We are looking to add real world sports bets in near updates, we are still analysing to see if it's viable.
Once we have this feature I will update with the post and edit subject on forum to include this feature

Is the Friday spins will be renewed every week? Like the players can deposit 50$ to this week and in the other week he was able to deposit 50$ also or it can be claimed once only.

I like also your cashback method as most of the casinos are not offering this kind of feature, 5% is not that big but it can surely help the players to get some of their losses.

Hello! Thank you for asking!

Yes, the Friday spins renewed each week.


actually, fast response is really good in building relationship with the community. this will also give the assurance to players that there is a support staff that will hear their issues or concerns.
however, the OP is just an investor on this site. so dont know if he can answer all the queries here...
 yes, they should add actual sports events. there are many sports bettors here, in the forum alone.
and regarding kyc, if you are not really a big timer, i guess there's no prob using this casino as they require kyc only to players with deposits over 1000 euro

Hello!

I'm not really an investor, but I do work for Fortunetowin, competent to answer any of your questions and have direct contact with owner with whom I discuss our progress on daily basis.

Regarding the sports bets -- I see it's a highly requested feature, and we're considering on implementing it to the website.

Thank you very much for your input everyone!
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November 16, 2020, 09:38:20 PM
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Also, when I checked the validity of license using my browser, it says valid.


I can also see valid if you just show that part but is there no notification above that the seal validation is expired?

May I also ask what browser did you use when you checked it?

Just to answer your question here. I'm using google chrome as browser.
And posting below the full snapshot. Not getting the expired notification.



If you are still in doubt, just play in another casino that you are confident with their license.
You will not be at ease playing if something is bothering you. And I know, there are other casinos here that already cemented their reputation.
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Just to answer your question here. I'm using google chrome as browser.
And posting below the full snapshot. Not getting the expired notification.

https://i.imgur.com/krB31HA.png

If you are still in doubt, just play in another casino that you are confident with their license.
You will not be at ease playing if something is bothering you. And I know, there are other casinos here that already cemented their reputation.

Thank you TimeTeller for clarifying the licence displays properly on your browser.

We are still investigating what could have been a possible cause of the error message display, but we can assure everyone that the licence is correct and not outdated.




Currently, we are working on a large update to our game, working on features like live chat, live support, sport bets and new promotions!

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Do you plan on adding any other crypto coins as payment methods?

Like Ethereum and BCH?

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Just recently registered and try to browse your casino via mobile. It seems that your graphics is not fitted for mobile that result to some image seems not proportional to mobile screen. The game you offer is very limited in terms of card game and slot. And also there is no available game on sports bet. Is your casino still on early development phase? I become interested since you have a license and you offer some slot game that I like.

Is it possible for you to add play money just to try out your casino games before we deposit real money?

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Just recently registered and try to browse your casino via mobile. It seems that your graphics is not fitted for mobile that result to some image seems not proportional to mobile screen. The game you offer is very limited in terms of card game and slot. And also there is no available game on sports bet. Is your casino still on early development phase? I become interested since you have a license and you offer some slot game that I like.

Is it possible for you to add play money just to try out your casino games before we deposit real money?

It is already available, isn't it? I tried to open a game (slot) without an account and I can play it with the FUN balance. https://prnt.sc/vm7k3b
Since you have created an account already, what do you see when you open a game?
Most other usually will give two options "REAL PLAY" or "FUN PLAY/MODE" when players open a game from 3rd party providers.
Didnt you see that options when you open a game?

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Do you plan on adding any other crypto coins as payment methods?

Like Ethereum and BCH?

Hello!

We do plan adding new cryptos in future, but don't have an ETA yet.

Just recently registered and try to browse your casino via mobile. It seems that your graphics is not fitted for mobile that result to some image seems not proportional to mobile screen. The game you offer is very limited in terms of card game and slot. And also there is no available game on sports bet. Is your casino still on early development phase? I become interested since you have a license and you offer some slot game that I like.

Is it possible for you to add play money just to try out your casino games before we deposit real money?

It is already available, isn't it? I tried to open a game (slot) without an account and I can play it with the FUN balance. https://prnt.sc/vm7k3b
Since you have created an account already, what do you see when you open a game?
Most other usually will give two options "REAL PLAY" or "FUN PLAY/MODE" when players open a game from 3rd party providers.
Didnt you see that options when you open a game?

Thanks for pointing that out
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When is the next major update here?
Is there some active development going on on this project?

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November 27, 2020, 05:21:00 PM
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So at this moment you are not offering crypto deposits, am I right?
If you do not have any crypto deposits that players can use, then it is a miracle why you are posting here.
You should only post when you have crypto deposits available.

https://www.fortunetowin.com/payments Check this page and scroll down, you'll see that they accepts bitcoin and litecoin.
So they are fine to be here since they accepts crypto as payment method, I wonder how could you say that there is no crypto deposits available in this site?

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November 27, 2020, 05:42:23 PM
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Do you plan on adding any other crypto coins as payment methods?

Like Ethereum and BCH?

Hello!

We do plan adding new cryptos in future, but don't have an ETA yet.

Just recently registered and try to browse your casino via mobile. It seems that your graphics is not fitted for mobile that result to some image seems not proportional to mobile screen. The game you offer is very limited in terms of card game and slot. And also there is no available game on sports bet. Is your casino still on early development phase? I become interested since you have a license and you offer some slot game that I like.

Is it possible for you to add play money just to try out your casino games before we deposit real money?

It is already available, isn't it? I tried to open a game (slot) without an account and I can play it with the FUN balance. https://prnt.sc/vm7k3b
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Didnt you see that options when you open a game?

Thanks for pointing that out

Probably this part confused him a bit. He may have read that there was no crypto at all. If you offer the bitcoin, that is in any case already good. And expanding is always possible, most gamblers only play with bitcoin.
They hold a license, which is very important for people.

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November 30, 2020, 08:27:28 AM
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I thought it is completely free spins but in fact 50EUR deposit is required for this promotion.
Why dont you try to give pure free spins for bitcointalk members as a starting promotion in this forum?
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I agree.
Some free bonus must be in order, to attract the new players, as for the new projects players are cautious to deposits before playing.

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November 30, 2020, 08:48:53 AM
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The least they should be doing is just give some away for free. Last we saw another bookmaker giving away 1 Mbtc for free for the first 50 registered players, those are things where you make it attractive for the customer

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November 30, 2020, 09:11:06 AM
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So at this moment you are not offering crypto deposits, am I right?
If you do not have any crypto deposits that players can use, then it is a miracle why you are posting here.
You should only post when you have crypto deposits available.

https://www.fortunetowin.com/payments Check this page and scroll down, you'll see that they accepts bitcoin and litecoin.
So they are fine to be here since they accepts crypto as payment method, I wonder how could you say that there is no crypto deposits available in this site?

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The 25 Free Spins deal might be the best offer you'll get on this seasonal sale! 💰💰💰

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I thought it is completely free spins but in fact 50EUR deposit is required for this promotion.
Why dont you try to give pure free spins for bitcointalk members as a starting promotion in this forum?
You may get some feedback from such promotions where players can try your site for free without any risks.

yes you are right, trying to find customers should at least need a promotion, yes as you said at the beginning why don't we try it on this forum giving free spins without any conditions, it will be fun, because it is risk free from anything, besides that they are will get experience in the game, of course they will talk about this in public, it's an interesting idea if it is done to attract attention to have a lot of customers

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November 30, 2020, 12:17:00 PM
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So at this moment you are not offering crypto deposits, am I right?
If you do not have any crypto deposits that players can use, then it is a miracle why you are posting here.
You should only post when you have crypto deposits available.

https://www.fortunetowin.com/payments Check this page and scroll down, you'll see that they accepts bitcoin and litecoin.
So they are fine to be here since they accepts crypto as payment method, I wonder how could you say that there is no crypto deposits available in this site?

Here at http://fortunetowin.com, every Friday is a #BlackFriday!

The 25 Free Spins deal might be the best offer you'll get on this seasonal sale! 💰💰💰

Join and get a chance to win Huge Jackpots!


I thought it is completely free spins but in fact 50EUR deposit is required for this promotion.
Why dont you try to give pure free spins for bitcointalk members as a starting promotion in this forum?
You may get some feedback from such promotions where players can try your site for free without any risks.

yes you are right, trying to find customers should at least need a promotion, yes as you said at the beginning why don't we try it on this forum giving free spins without any conditions, it will be fun, because it is risk free from anything, besides that they are will get experience in the game, of course they will talk about this in public, it's an interesting idea if it is done to attract attention to have a lot of customers
they shouldnt call it free spin if its not totally free but they should label it as aditional spin after a succesful depo to avoid confusions and also to make if clear to the gambler that are new to those promotions .

tho 50 euro depo for 25 free spins is not bad because there are sites that require a hundred dollar or more for 25 to 20 free spins only  .

 lastly they can add demo play or a faucet for those that want to try the site risk free if they dont want to invest more on a free spin
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November 30, 2020, 03:40:43 PM
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Hello, dear Bitcointalk community!

We heard your feedback on "test play" feature, and hopefully we will be able to deliver it in our next updates.

As for now, the Free Spins are available with our deposit bonus promos

To test play the casino, you can deposit even a very small amount and play small bet games, where you can experience the fully featured gameplay and will have a chance to win real money instead of some virtual amount.

Nice to hear that you are listening to all those replies.

How long it would take  to see the next updates, for now it's really better to allow players to try it out with free rolls and if  luck
permits them to win then providing the winning bonus will adds up trust and can use as a good advertisement around the forum,
looking forward to see how this free spins will be offer..
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