Another trust abusing by efialtis

[peloso]

this idiot is lying that I wrote to him PM but i never contacted him ( BEFORE HE EXLUDED ME )
he tagged me without any proofs
how long will the use of dt for revenge continue?

its beginned after he excluded me bu collusion

upd
sorry for my pure en its not my native  lang
and i npt use google translator as do it stupid lovesfamily

[yahoo62278]

I'm not really a fan of leaving a neg without having a reference link. If you don't mind giving him permission to post the pm and having him post it here, this would show whether there is proof of the pm or not.

**EDIT**

I have seen the pms and looks like you tried to force him into doing something or get distrusted, then you distrusted him and told him basically it can change in the future( if he breaks and does what you want).

I would say the abuse is on you OP

[sujonali1819]

I can not understand what actually going here? Maybe one of you is mistaking something. Otherwise, why efialtis tag a user due to sending pm** even the user never pm him? Op did you check carefully that you did not send any pm mistakenly to efialtis instead of otherone? Or efialtis gave the feedback mistakely to op instead.

[AB de Royse777]

this idiot is lying that I wrote to him PM but i never contacted him
he tagged me without any proofs
how long will the use of dt for revenge continue?

Quoting for reference.

The tag says:

Tried to bribe me via pm - distrusting me right afterwards and posting lame things - that guy is far from being a trusted member - stay away and take care!

I would like a response from efialtis just to know what sorts of deal you both was having and what bribe it was there. Although I believe efialtis is such a person who will not like to bring any unnecessary attention towards him. There must be some reason.

Watching the thread.

[YOSHIE]

How could that be...!

As far as I know @efialtis, the person is quite conscientious and careful in doing things, especially the gambling section. Many of the members here have problems at gambling, he gives directions, what else about DT's beliefs.

You say this.

this idiot is lying that I wrote to him PM but i never contacted him

This is not possible, I am not sure you did nothing via PM to: @efialtis.


Whereas @efialtis says this.



However, I do not want to hear from one party, what if @efialtis, provides proof of the PM he received from you, if what he gave (ed) to you is proven.

Wait what is said by: @efialtis, you are right or you are lying, two things will be answered here, if @efialtis sees this topic.

[Csmiami]

I have seen the pms and looks like you tried to force him into doing something or get distrusted, then you distrusted him and told him basically it can change in the future( if he breaks and does what you want).

I would say the abuse is on you OP

Apart from this; which just looked like some trust drama attempt, I'm going to ask an evident question....

Why are you complaining in NOVEMBER about a trust rating left in JULY? I may be missing something, but it just makes no sense to wait 4 months to do so

[efialtis]

this idiot is lying that I wrote to him PM but i never contacted him
he tagged me without any proofs
how long will the use of dt for revenge continue?

What is wrong with you man? You really have issues, serious ones...

I don't even know what/how to respond to this and what's your goal? I hate the fact I need to look this up now...

Facts:

1) You sent me a PM on June 3rd asking me to add you to my trust list
2) I respond I don't know what your problem is but I stopped getting involved into forum politics, hate the fact you are into all those wars though
3) You respond that you don't participate, you didn't begin this and that I distrusted you. I should know that you can answer and that you don't want to distrust me but if you will, I will be out of DT 1
4) I receive another PM crying that I distrusted you
5) I receive another PM stating you checked and I didn't change my mind so you distrust me and I am out of DT 1 - this may change whenever I want
6) And my response to all that Bullshit: That behavior goes to you show you cannot be trusted


Thanks to everyone for notifying me about this - I wouldn't even have seen it and I am glad I am really not involved in such matters anymore...

[mindrust]

I can guess the content of peloso's PM because I too received a similar one in the past. I believe efialtis.

That guy is trying to forge fake allegiances by sending PM's. That's known by many people by now. If anyone still thinks that any word coming from peloso's mouth has any worth, well... he should check himself to the nearest hospital.

[Beparanf]

I have seen the pms and looks like you tried to force him into doing something or get distrusted, then you distrusted him and told him basically it can change in the future( if he breaks and does what you want).

I would say the abuse is on you OP

Apart from this; which just looked like some trust drama attempt, I'm going to ask an evident question....

Why are you complaining in NOVEMBER about a trust rating left in JULY? I may be missing something, but it just makes no sense to wait 4 months to do so

Maybe the guy who gave the feedback is not in DT list by the time he leave the feedback so the OP didn't notice that time. I notice that Efialtis become a DT1 on August update which is 1 month after the feedback left.

DT Overview: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139250.msg54912066#msg54912066

[AB de Royse777]

I am not in my best mental health however I had a quick chat with efialtis on Telegram and it seems things are not good from your side @peloso. I do not see any reason to distrust efialtis for this reason. The feedback was justified or not but perhaps you two can seat together and finish it in between you two.

[Rikafip]

Maybe the guy who gave the feedback is not in DT list by the time he leave the feedback so the OP didn't notice that time. I notice that Efialtis become a DT1 on August update which is 1 month after the feedback left.

Yet we are in November now, meaning few months passed since that negative feedback became visible. Since we are playing the guessing game, I think that Peloso just got bored so he decided to stir some shit to get attention. As simple as that, and pretty common thing here in Reputation board.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Maybe the guy who gave the feedback is not in DT list by the time he leave the feedback so the OP didn't notice that time. I notice that Efialtis become a DT1 on August update which is 1 month after the feedback left.

DT Overview: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139250.msg54912066#msg54912066

Yes, he knows everything, and his indignation looks like another aggravation. This "friend" periodically protests against the DT system, and after he gets a little relaxation after telling everyone how he hates everyone, he calms down.
Don't take his outrage seriously.

A вoт ты я вижy пpиoбpeл eщe минycик , кoгo ты тaм вce cтapaeшьcя пoдкyпить?

нy мoй минycик этo для тeбя тpaгeдия a для мeня этo xyeтa  и пpocтo пшик и никaк нe влияeт нa мoю дeятeльнoяcть)
я жe кaк ты бyтылки нe coбиpaю

Here, this is his most common answer, about a review that was left to him.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I have seen the pms

Did OP PM them to you?  That might be a stupid question, but it wasn't stated anywhere.  And I think it'd be nice to post the PMs here considering a negative feedback was left and the community (including DT members) ought to have a look-see.

I would say the abuse is on you OP

That doesn't surprise me in the least, but I'd like to see the evidence for myself.  I think I already have peloso excluded from my trust list, but I'll have to check.  

Peloso isn't on the DT list, is he?

I am not in my best mental health

Sorry to hear that and I hope things improve for you.  It's been a crazy year so far, and a lot of people are suffering right along side you.

[Pffrt]

but it wasn't stated anywhere.

Yeah but efialtis has summarized the PM above, you can get an idea from his post and I think that’s enough to understand what exactly happened between them.

Peloso isn't on the DT list, is he?

He isn’t in DT.

[peloso]

i permit to post here PMs

[mindrust]

i permit to post here PMs

His first Turkish PM:

"We are brothers. I am against Lauda and her dogs."

His second:

"Now you are DT."

What do people think? Is this a neg-trust deserving behavior? I think it is. If the DT people advise me otherwise, I would gladly remove my feedback or make it neutral.

[Insanerman]

What do people think? Is this a neg-trust deserving behavior? I think it is. If the DT people advise me otherwise, I would gladly remove my feedback or make it neutral.

I guess you just did the right thing. Some users here really relies on trust and making it as their advantage to ruin others, yet in the case of OP, he is aggressively wanted to be part of DT with the objective/intention of having a subjective hate to Lauda and users that had connections with him. This is why I love reading threads at Reputation board, I've seeing lots of users that goes wild in an online community (like who in their right mind would even waste their time arguing in an online community with pure anonymity, arguments would only be scrambled).

Furthermore, efialtis is a good person, as I've seen him actively interacting in gambling section with no further issues of having scams nor promoting ones. Even had no past issues of engaging to the forum politics, but rather preferred to just do his thing and purpose in this forum -- sharing knowledge esp in gambling. Hence, abuse is indeed on the OP.

[peloso]

mindrust-idiot you got orgasm?)))
i realy collect idiots to my account

[Joel_Jantsen]

this idiot is lying that I wrote to him PM but i never contacted him

Well that's a lie in fact you did contact him and both shared a fair amount of messages even though it looked one-sided to me.

mindrust-idiot you got orgasm?)))
i realy collect idiots to my account

You are better off locking the thread and leave things the way they are because being hostile is only going to get you in more trouble that is a negative trust from other DT members.

[marlboroza]

he tagged me without any proofs

You also tagged me without any proofs and you lied on my trust page, why are you complaining if someone tags you without providing any proofs in public, hypocrite?
Miscellaneous:

Peloso sent positive feedback to scammer:

This account is "trust troll".