Another trust abusing by efialtis

[peloso]

this idiot is lying that I wrote to him PM but i never contacted him ( BEFORE HE EXLUDED ME )
he tagged me without any proofs
how long will the use of dt for revenge continue?

its beginned after he excluded me bu collusion

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sorry for my pure en its not my native  lang
and i npt use google translator as do it stupid lovesfamily

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[yahoo62278]

I'm not really a fan of leaving a neg without having a reference link. If you don't mind giving him permission to post the pm and having him post it here, this would show whether there is proof of the pm or not.

**EDIT**

I have seen the pms and looks like you tried to force him into doing something or get distrusted, then you distrusted him and told him basically it can change in the future( if he breaks and does what you want).

I would say the abuse is on you OP

[sujonali1819]

I can not understand what actually going here? Maybe one of you is mistaking something. Otherwise, why efialtis tag a user due to sending pm** even the user never pm him? Op did you check carefully that you did not send any pm mistakenly to efialtis instead of otherone? Or efialtis gave the feedback mistakely to op instead.

[AB de Royse777]

this idiot is lying that I wrote to him PM but i never contacted him
he tagged me without any proofs
how long will the use of dt for revenge continue?

Quoting for reference.

The tag says:

Tried to bribe me via pm - distrusting me right afterwards and posting lame things - that guy is far from being a trusted member - stay away and take care!

I would like a response from efialtis just to know what sorts of deal you both was having and what bribe it was there. Although I believe efialtis is such a person who will not like to bring any unnecessary attention towards him. There must be some reason.

Watching the thread.

[YOSHIE]

How could that be...!

As far as I know @efialtis, the person is quite conscientious and careful in doing things, especially the gambling section. Many of the members here have problems at gambling, he gives directions, what else about DT's beliefs.

You say this.

this idiot is lying that I wrote to him PM but i never contacted him

This is not possible, I am not sure you did nothing via PM to: @efialtis.


Whereas @efialtis says this.



However, I do not want to hear from one party, what if @efialtis, provides proof of the PM he received from you, if what he gave (ed) to you is proven.

Wait what is said by: @efialtis, you are right or you are lying, two things will be answered here, if @efialtis sees this topic.

[Csmiami]

I have seen the pms and looks like you tried to force him into doing something or get distrusted, then you distrusted him and told him basically it can change in the future( if he breaks and does what you want).

I would say the abuse is on you OP

Apart from this; which just looked like some trust drama attempt, I'm going to ask an evident question....

Why are you complaining in NOVEMBER about a trust rating left in JULY? I may be missing something, but it just makes no sense to wait 4 months to do so

[efialtis]

this idiot is lying that I wrote to him PM but i never contacted him
he tagged me without any proofs
how long will the use of dt for revenge continue?

What is wrong with you man? You really have issues, serious ones...

I don't even know what/how to respond to this and what's your goal? I hate the fact I need to look this up now...

Facts:

1) You sent me a PM on June 3rd asking me to add you to my trust list
2) I respond I don't know what your problem is but I stopped getting involved into forum politics, hate the fact you are into all those wars though
3) You respond that you don't participate, you didn't begin this and that I distrusted you. I should know that you can answer and that you don't want to distrust me but if you will, I will be out of DT 1
4) I receive another PM crying that I distrusted you
5) I receive another PM stating you checked and I didn't change my mind so you distrust me and I am out of DT 1 - this may change whenever I want
6) And my response to all that Bullshit: That behavior goes to you show you cannot be trusted


Thanks to everyone for notifying me about this - I wouldn't even have seen it and I am glad I am really not involved in such matters anymore...

[mindrust]

I can guess the content of peloso's PM because I too received a similar one in the past. I believe efialtis.

That guy is trying to forge fake allegiances by sending PM's. That's known by many people by now. If anyone still thinks that any word coming from peloso's mouth has any worth, well... he should check himself to the nearest hospital.

[Beparanf]

I have seen the pms and looks like you tried to force him into doing something or get distrusted, then you distrusted him and told him basically it can change in the future( if he breaks and does what you want).

I would say the abuse is on you OP

Apart from this; which just looked like some trust drama attempt, I'm going to ask an evident question....

Why are you complaining in NOVEMBER about a trust rating left in JULY? I may be missing something, but it just makes no sense to wait 4 months to do so

Maybe the guy who gave the feedback is not in DT list by the time he leave the feedback so the OP didn't notice that time. I notice that Efialtis become a DT1 on August update which is 1 month after the feedback left.

DT Overview: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139250.msg54912066#msg54912066

[AB de Royse777]

I am not in my best mental health however I had a quick chat with efialtis on Telegram and it seems things are not good from your side @peloso. I do not see any reason to distrust efialtis for this reason. The feedback was justified or not but perhaps you two can seat together and finish it in between you two.

[Rikafip]

Maybe the guy who gave the feedback is not in DT list by the time he leave the feedback so the OP didn't notice that time. I notice that Efialtis become a DT1 on August update which is 1 month after the feedback left.

Yet we are in November now, meaning few months passed since that negative feedback became visible. Since we are playing the guessing game, I think that Peloso just got bored so he decided to stir some shit to get attention. As simple as that, and pretty common thing here in Reputation board.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Maybe the guy who gave the feedback is not in DT list by the time he leave the feedback so the OP didn't notice that time. I notice that Efialtis become a DT1 on August update which is 1 month after the feedback left.

DT Overview: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139250.msg54912066#msg54912066

Yes, he knows everything, and his indignation looks like another aggravation. This "friend" periodically protests against the DT system, and after he gets a little relaxation after telling everyone how he hates everyone, he calms down.
Don't take his outrage seriously.

A вoт ты я вижy пpиoбpeл eщe минycик , кoгo ты тaм вce cтapaeшьcя пoдкyпить?

нy мoй минycик этo для тeбя тpaгeдия a для мeня этo xyeтa  и пpocтo пшик и никaк нe влияeт нa мoю дeятeльнoяcть)
я жe кaк ты бyтылки нe coбиpaю

Here, this is his most common answer, about a review that was left to him.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I have seen the pms

Did OP PM them to you?  That might be a stupid question, but it wasn't stated anywhere.  And I think it'd be nice to post the PMs here considering a negative feedback was left and the community (including DT members) ought to have a look-see.

I would say the abuse is on you OP

That doesn't surprise me in the least, but I'd like to see the evidence for myself.  I think I already have peloso excluded from my trust list, but I'll have to check.  

Peloso isn't on the DT list, is he?

I am not in my best mental health

Sorry to hear that and I hope things improve for you.  It's been a crazy year so far, and a lot of people are suffering right along side you.

[Pffrt]

but it wasn't stated anywhere.

Yeah but efialtis has summarized the PM above, you can get an idea from his post and I think that’s enough to understand what exactly happened between them.

Peloso isn't on the DT list, is he?

He isn’t in DT.

[peloso]

i permit to post here PMs

[mindrust]

i permit to post here PMs

His first Turkish PM:

"We are brothers. I am against Lauda and her dogs."

His second:

"Now you are DT."

What do people think? Is this a neg-trust deserving behavior? I think it is. If the DT people advise me otherwise, I would gladly remove my feedback or make it neutral.

[Insanerman]

What do people think? Is this a neg-trust deserving behavior? I think it is. If the DT people advise me otherwise, I would gladly remove my feedback or make it neutral.

I guess you just did the right thing. Some users here really relies on trust and making it as their advantage to ruin others, yet in the case of OP, he is aggressively wanted to be part of DT with the objective/intention of having a subjective hate to Lauda and users that had connections with him. This is why I love reading threads at Reputation board, I've seeing lots of users that goes wild in an online community (like who in their right mind would even waste their time arguing in an online community with pure anonymity, arguments would only be scrambled).

Furthermore, efialtis is a good person, as I've seen him actively interacting in gambling section with no further issues of having scams nor promoting ones. Even had no past issues of engaging to the forum politics, but rather preferred to just do his thing and purpose in this forum -- sharing knowledge esp in gambling. Hence, abuse is indeed on the OP.

[peloso]

mindrust-idiot you got orgasm?)))
i realy collect idiots to my account

[Joel_Jantsen]

this idiot is lying that I wrote to him PM but i never contacted him

Well that's a lie in fact you did contact him and both shared a fair amount of messages even though it looked one-sided to me.

mindrust-idiot you got orgasm?)))
i realy collect idiots to my account

You are better off locking the thread and leave things the way they are because being hostile is only going to get you in more trouble that is a negative trust from other DT members.

[marlboroza]

he tagged me without any proofs

You also tagged me without any proofs and you lied on my trust page, why are you complaining if someone tags you without providing any proofs in public, hypocrite?
Miscellaneous:

Peloso sent positive feedback to scammer:

This account is "trust troll".

[AB de Royse777]

What do people think? Is this a neg-trust deserving behavior? I think it is. If the DT people advise me otherwise, I would gladly remove my feedback or make it neutral.

I would still just distrust in this kind of cases and perhaps would leave a neutral feedback stating that "the user kind of asking me not to distrust him and making a big issue about it".

@peloso, I hope you understand that this is not really helping you much. Let people do what they want to do with their trust list.

[peloso]

You also tagged me without any proofs and you lied on my trust page, why are you complaining if someone tags you without providing any proofs in public, hypocrite?

you lie moron
it never was

This account is "trust troll".

trust troll said

this idiot is lying that I wrote to him PM but i never contacted him

Well that's a lie in fact you did contact him and both shared a fair amount of messages even though it looked one-sided to me.

i contacted him after it ( after he excluded me by colluding another morons  ) before i never contacted

What do people think? Is this a neg-trust deserving behavior? I think it is. If the DT people advise me otherwise, I would gladly remove my feedback or make it neutral.

I would still just distrust in this kind of cases and perhaps would leave a neutral feedback stating that "the user kind of asking me not to distrust him and making a big issue about it".

yes i think too for this behavior he must leave neutral tag and not red but he leave red ) thats incorrect behaviour

@peloso, I hope you understand that this is not really helping you much. Let people do what they want to do with their trust list.

ok no problem) i always ready for peace but all morons and idiots mus be know RED TAG not for revenge..
even posts of some idiots like as marlboroza, mindtrust and others for revenge at me
anyway

1) You sent me a PM on June 3rd asking me to add you to my trust list

1. you excluded me by collusion
2. i sent you PM and NEVER ASK ( here is my first pm to you)

hii
recommend you to include me to your trust list

where here ASK? I recommended you in an orderly tone and did not ask
and it was AFTER this idiot excluded me before it i not contacted him
you lie as a mindtrust

я cyчь

нy этo дa) ничeгo нe мeняeтcя

Did OP PM them to you?  That might be a stupid question, but it wasn't stated anywhere.  And I think it'd be nice to post the PMs here considering a negative feedback was left and the community (including DT members) ought to have a look-see.

absolutely agree )

[Timelord2067]

Explain your distrust of then.

[peloso]

Explain your distrust of then.

this is a question?
this question to me?
or...)

[Timelord2067]

Explain your distrust of then.

this is a question?
this question to me?
or...)

That should read "Explain your distrust of ... then."


You can start with me if you like.

[peloso]

Explain your distrust of then.

this is a question?
this question to me?
or...)

That should read "Explain your distrust of ... then."


You can start with me if you like.

you realy want i must explain you why i distrusted you?
its important you no problem i can explain but it will offtop cos here is another story
here is about efialtis idiocy
but tell me its important for you?

may be will good if you ll open topic about this ? "Why Peloso distrusted me and other idiots?" i promise i will answer all your questions ( may be )

[marlboroza]

You also tagged me without any proofs and you lied on my trust page, why are you complaining if someone tags you without providing any proofs in public, hypocrite?

you lie moron
it never was

Why don't you post controversial data which I shared?
You know what? I actually don't give a fuck about someone tagging you. I usually do, but in your case, I don't. I don't even want to look at anything on your trust page.

[pugman]

Peloso, what are you trying to do even? Multiple people have said you asked/wanted to bribe them to be in DT? Damn you must be real desperate for that rating. You haven't said anything against that, all you are doing is calling people idiots.

Efiatis, could you post the screenshot of what he said to you over PM? Just as an additional reference to shut this clown down.

I am not in my best mental health

MATE. Take a break, and hoping things are becoming good for you. Prioritize your mental health over Peloso, or anyone from this forum. Trust me, it works wonders.

[2double0]

Bribe? For a trust against a trust? And if not added to the trust list, they (peloso) will add the good person in their distrust list?

I am clapping for you peloso, what a shady 'trust scam' which nobody pointed out here as I can see through the thread. I am amazed that you can also use your powers as you are not satisfied with somebody not having you in their trust list? It is their own decision, they are free to keep, remove or distrust you. How can you determine what actions are to be taken by others, peloso?

[peloso]

Peloso, what are you trying to do even? Multiple people have said you asked/wanted to bribe them to be in DT? Damn you must be real desperate for that rating. You haven't said anything against that, all you are doing is calling people idiots.

Efiatis, could you post the screenshot of what he said to you over PM? Just as an additional reference to shut this clown down.

I am not in my best mental health

MATE. Take a break, and hoping things are becoming good for you. Prioritize your mental health over Peloso, or anyone from this forum. Trust me, it works wonders.

don't you guess? then shut up and listen
if you not understand something fuck off
all I told everything above, read carefully

[efialtis]

Here's the whole conversation and as you can see, I was deeply into this... 

[peloso]

Here's the whole conversation and as you can see, I was deeply into this... 

red tag for it? u sure ? you are realy idiot

[Timelord2067]

you realy want i must explain you why i distrusted you?
its important you no problem i can explain but it will offtop cos here is another story
here is about efialtis idiocy
but tell me its important for you?

may be will good if you ll open topic about this ? "Why Peloso distrusted me and other idiots?" i promise i will answer all your questions ( may be )

... and that was Peloso in what I like to call "crash and burn" ...

[peloso]

you realy want i must explain you why i distrusted you?
its important you no problem i can explain but it will offtop cos here is another story
here is about efialtis idiocy
but tell me its important for you?

may be will good if you ll open topic about this ? "Why Peloso distrusted me and other idiots?" i promise i will answer all your questions ( may be )

... and that was Peloso in what I like to call "crash and burn" ...

and?)

[Timelord2067]

... and that was Peloso in what I like to call "crash and burn" ...

and?)

... and it's time to dry those tears, go out in the sun for a walk, wear a face-mask and try not to let life get you down.

[peloso]

... and that was Peloso in what I like to call "crash and burn" ...

and?)

... and it's time to dry those tears, go out in the sun for a walk, wear a face-mask and try not to let life get you down.

its your sick fantasy ?

You know what? I actually don't give a fuck about someone tagging you. I usually do, but in your case, I don't. I don't even want to look at anything on your trust page.

you don't want to, but you look, as I said you moron 

[pugman]

Here's the whole conversation and as you can see, I was deeply into this... 
~snip~

I don't see him offering a bribe, anywhere. But he is blackmailing you lol, so change your reference to that, and then ignore button is the way.

don't you guess? then shut up and listen
if you not understand something fuck off
all I told everything above, read carefully

You blackmailing a user to remove you from his trust list doesn't make you any innocent. You deserve the rating you have received, plus you're being a dick for no reason.

[peloso]

you are fucking Atriz alt
so shut up

Peloso sent positive feedback to scammer:

This account is "trust troll".

trust system not moderate so your "trust troll" is not violate some of forum rule idiot
but you always try to trolling me

[marlboroza]

Peloso sent positive feedback to scammer:

This account is "trust troll".

trust system not moderate so your "trust troll" is not violate some of forum rule idiot
but you always try to trolling me

I didn't say that you violated forum rules, being an idiot is not against forum rules as far as I remember. You can do with your account whatever you want, but don't be surprised when you get the same treatment from other users.

so shut up

Actually, pugman is right.

[suchmoon]

https://loyce.club/profile.html?id=81995

included by 11 users with 250+ earned Merit and 14 users with 10-249 earned Merit

11 users have more merit than sense.

[peloso]

Actually, pugman is right.

yes is right ) pugman aka atriz is your friend but atriz is scammer, atriz also suchkamun,s friend)
so i collect here a lot of fucking cult of lauda))

[suchmoon]

yes is right ) pugman aka atriz is your friend but atriz is scammer, atriz also suchkamun,s friend)
so i collect here a lot of fucking cult of lauda))

Damn right, with Lauda gone we need someone else to worship. Will you be our new cult leader? To qualify you need to hand out some bullshit ratings (check), call people names (check), and have some plagiarism in your post history (hurry up if you haven't done that yet).

[peloso]

yes is right ) pugman aka atriz is your friend but atriz is scammer, atriz also suchkamun,s friend)
so i collect here a lot of fucking cult of lauda))

Damn right, with Lauda gone we need someone else to worship. Will you be our new cult leader? To qualify you need to hand out some bullshit ratings (check), call people names (check), and have some plagiarism in your post history (hurry up if you haven't done that yet).

call elk to here I will think about your proposal

[marlboroza]

pugman aka atriz

Judging your very high IQ, you probably connected them because both accounts have "a" in name.

Actually, pugman is right.

yes is right

So it's blackmail, case closed, lock this topic.

[peloso]

So it's blackmail, case closed, lock this topic.

no..
not closed
red trust is wrong for this case
for this case neutral tag will correct

[pugman]

pugman aka atriz

Judging your very high IQ, you probably connected them because both accounts have "a" in name.

PROBABLY LOOOL

So it's blackmail, case closed, lock this topic.

no..
not closed
red trust is wrong for this case
for this case neutral tag will correct

ok let me explain in your language,:

Yalla habibi, you do blackmail. blackmail=== not good. not good=== you do bad stuff.

neutral tag not correct bcoz you do wrong thing. i is not atriz. lauda no put me in his cult

efialtis rating should remain. you do english course. ok understood habibi?

[nullius]

All the n00bs who don’t verify PGP signatures will now bow down to me.
Muahahahaha!

Why does everyone use screenshots?

PSA:  Screenshots are trivial to fake.  A screenshot is no better proof than a quote; and a quote is much easier to read.  If your word can be trusted about the authenticity of a screenshot, then you can be trusted to provide a quote—whereas if a quote from you is untrustworthy, then so is a screenshot!

The above is a real screenshot, not “Photoshopped”.  I produced it with minimal effort by editing the actual webpage, using my browser’s developer tools.  Thus, it looks perfect; and nonexistent graphical modifications cannot be detected.  That is also how I conveniently crafted a parody of Jihan’s infamous “fuck your mother” tweet.

For the sake of ocular health and safety, and to avoid a false sense of security, please stop using screenshots in situations whereby a visual depiction is not required.  Thank you.

(If you see a questionable message alleged to be from theymos, check for digital signatures from theymos’ PGP key after verifying that the key’s PGP fingerprint is 5E6B 3F3B A961 193C 5C9B  4435 C655 5693 DAB5 91E7.)

i permit to post here PMs

As you are aware, your permission is not required.

The purpose of this thread is to publish hate-mail, whines, threats, etc. I receive for spamfighting activity, in cases where no other pertinent thread exists.  If/where warranted, I may then use posts here as references for issuing negative trust feedback.

[— The above was from 2018; this was added in 2020: —]

N.b.:  Although I always handle my communications as a gentleman, and I would issue negative trust feedback for unreasonable or treacherous disclosure of personal communications, I publish unsolicited hostile communications as a matter of policy.  Be guided accordingly.

PM = Personal Message, not Private Message.

Compare "private interview" to "personal interview" or "private locker" to "personal locker". Something private isn't expected to be made public, but something personal is only owned by or associated with a single person, not necessarily with a strong guarantee of privacy.

It’s funny, the imbeciles and assorted trolls whining at Lauda and now at Vod forgot that I have a whole thread for this:

UNSOLICITED HOSTILE COMMUNICATION SEEKING TO INFLUENCE MY TRUST-RELATED DECISIONS

hi

can you explane why you excluded me?

Yes, I can; but I do not wish to.

Please be advised that this PM discussion may be published at my discretion.

Please be advised i NOT PERMIT this discussion  be published

but i know
you from lauda gand and she's assliker
good luck

Nothing is new with me.  I have always published hostile unsolicited communications as well as (at my discretion) communications begging for merits, trust, and/or money.  And I have always left feedback consistently with my publicly stated trust feedback policy, q.v., which I should soon update with a policy on inclusions and exclusions.

yes is right ) pugman aka atriz is your friend but atriz is scammer, atriz also suchkamun,s friend)
so i collect here a lot of fucking cult of lauda))

Damn right, with Lauda gone we need someone else to worship. Will you be our new cult leader? To qualify you need to hand out some bullshit ratings (check), call people names (check), and have some plagiarism in your post history (hurry up if you haven't done that yet).

Although your grammar and diction exceed the abilities of your kindred spirit cryptohunter, your post hereby so echoes him as to prove that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  You are a gutless, two-faced manipulator who should not be trusted.

she is too distraught at the moment because her notorious criminal buddy just pretended to self-destruct on that other infamous thread  ;

I haven't noticed suchmoon being all that distraught by Lauda's departure.  I think your perception of reality is a little bit askew, but I don't think there's anyone here who'd be able to help you with that.

You don't know that, I might have been secretly crying for days but this has nothing to do with the shitposter detective. This thread was started before Lauda's departure and didn't refer to Lauda in any way until one of the shitposters brought the cat up on page 5 or 6.

[peloso]

perfect )) another asshole joined to this topic )
bravo nullius
but i know yet couple idiots that still not posted their highly intelligent thoughts

[marlboroza]

Why does everyone use screenshots?

PSA:  Screenshots are trivial to fake.  A screenshot is no better proof than a quote; and a quote is much easier to read.  If your word can be trusted about the authenticity of a screenshot, then you can be trusted to provide a quote—whereas if a quote from you is untrustworthy, then so is a screenshot!

Well, people like to see screenshots, quotation is boring, besides, peloso didn't disagree with screenshots :

Here's the whole conversation and as you can see, I was deeply into this...  

red tag for it? u sure ? you are realy idiot

...so they must be real. It has been always like that, Bob says something, then Alice says it is not true, then Bob quote some words, then Alice ask them to provide screenshot then Bob post screenshot.

[nullius]

What, does the forum (and especially, Democratic DT) consist of five-year-olds who prefer pictures to text?  (No, wait—don’t answer that.)

Screenshots are awful for:

• The imperfect eyesight of anyone over the age of forty.
• Copying and pasting text for further discussion.
• Mobile devices with small screens.
• Screen readers for the blind.
• ...USABILITY NIGHTMARE...

N.b. that not all of those use cases can be adequately served by right-clicking to view the image outside the forum’s CSS styling.

besides, peloso didn't disagree with screenshots :

peloso’s opinion is always irrelevant.

...so they must be real. It has been always like that, Bob says something, then Alice says it is not true, then Bob quote some words, then Alice ask them to provide screenshot then Bob post screenshot.

This is what I am against, and why I am taking the screenshot issue so seriously:  Security theatre provides a false sense of security!

This forum is riddled with asinine security-theatre stupidity, especially the public “I verified this signature!” statements in key-staking threads.
Nullian Verification

Local rules: [...]
Do not publicly say that you have verified a statement.  This gives a false sense of security, and tends to inculcate in the public a habit of relying others to “verify”, instead of verifying for themselves.  This is crypto!

If Bob and Alice play the little dance that you describe, then they are wrong—and you know better.  They should learn that a screenshot has no greater evidentiary value than a quote.  I am attempting to educate the users.

I myself only use screenshots of forum posts or PMs when I wish to illustrate a point that could not be adequately conveyed by plain text—for example, or for a contrary example.

It is for the greater good of the forum that SOON, I WILL BANE USERS WHO POST SCREENSHOTS WHEN A QUOTE WOULD SUFFICE!  MUAHAHAHA!

^^^ Alice and Bob, take notice:

...so they must be real. It has been always like that...

Back on topic:  peloso used *extremely* improper tactics to attempt to influence efialtis’ trust list.  I will let the PM exchange speak for itself.

Because trust system abuse is actually an important forum issue, I have reconstructed the PMs from efialtis’ screenshots, including compensation for his Greek timezone.  Timestamps should show in the timezone that you have in your local forum settings.  By the way, observe how peloso expects instant responses to his all-important demands.

I prefer to use this as the reference link for my own feedback.  For those who wish to do likewise, an anchor tag has been provided so that your reference link can skip the above discussion of screenshots.

hii
recommend you to include me to your trust list

hii
recommend you to include me to your trust list

Hey

Why is that? I am not so much into the politics here to be honest but I didn’t like that continuous „war“ you guys are having.

this is not my war and not i began this
you distrusted me for their ( gangs )
but you must know i can answer
i not want distrust you cos i bot know you
but if i do it you will out from D1

hii
recommend you to include me to your trust list

Hey

Why is that? I am not so much into the politics here to be honest but I didn’t like that continuous „war“ you guys are having.

you not so much into the politics but you honestly distrusted me ((

i see nothing changed  
ok i distrust you to and you out of from D1

it may change in the future anytime you want

For the record:  I have been preparing an action against peloso since on or about 9 November.  That is the reason for my interest in this thread, and not vice versa.  (It has been competing for priority with three other cases, two of which are definitely more important than peloso.  “It’s done when it’s done.”)

[marlboroza]

I have no idea what are you talking about, but efialtis posted screenshots, peloso responded, that is all what is relevant for this topic and trust rating.

[pugman]

@nulius you're kinda becoming like TOAA/cryptohunter. Friendly advice: Long posts like these isn't helping anyone. Keep it small and precise.

I agree screenshots may not always be fully secured, reliable or even real for that matter. But the parties involved here don't seem to be kind of people who would fake a screenshot. Besides, like Marlboroza said, peloso hasn't disagreed with it, for what its worth.

@efialtis, your rating is misleading. Peloso didn't bribe you, he blackmailed you instead. So you might wanna change that.

Also why is this thread still up and running, nothing of use is coming out of this.

[suchmoon]

@efialtis, your rating is misleading. Peloso didn't bribe you, he blackmailed you instead. So you might wanna change that.

Technically I don't think it's blackmail either, more like extortion. I don't think there was any damaging information for efialtis to be blackmailed with.

[nullius]

@nulius you're kinda becoming like TOAA/cryptohunter. Friendly advice: Long posts like these isn't helping anyone. Keep it small and precise.

I have been making long posts since December 2017; have you seen my post history?  Unlike cryptohunter’s posts, mine are cogent and legible, and express new thoughts rather than only repeating the same drivel ad maximam nauseam; to compare me to him says more about you than about me.

Anyway, I am here because this forum is not a total idiot-site like Reddit (or worse, Twitter).

Unlike Discourse, the software will be featureful and information-dense. Unlike Reddit, the software will support and encourage lengthy, high-quality posts (while allowing shorter posts).

I agree screenshots may not always be fully secured, reliable or even real for that matter. But the parties involved here don't seem to be kind of people who would fake a screenshot. Besides, like Marlboroza said, peloso hasn't disagreed with it, for what its worth.

I never questioned the authenticity of efialtis’ screenshots, which I presume to be true copies of the evidence.  Perhaps you may try reading what I said:

A screenshot is no better proof than a quote; and a quote is much easier to read.  If your word can be trusted about the authenticity of a screenshot, then you can be trusted to provide a quote—whereas if a quote from you is untrustworthy, then so is a screenshot!

[...]

For the sake of ocular health and safety, and to avoid a false sense of security, please stop using screenshots in situations whereby a visual depiction is not required.  Thank you.

I saw efialtis’ evidence as sufficiently important that I spent my time and effort reconstructing it in a more usable format.

Counterproductive use of screenshots is an ongoing problem on this forum.  It has long irritated me, my security sense, and my poor, tired eyes.  Therefore, obiter dictum, I have taken the opportunity to request that people use quotes, when a quote will suffice—and to explain why.

I am attempting to educate the users.

[peloso]

@efialtis, your rating is misleading. Peloso didn't bribe you, he blackmailed you instead. So you might wanna change that.

Technically I don't think it's blackmail either, more like extortion. I don't think there was any damaging information for efialtis to be blackmailed with.

ok i repeat

FIRST efialtis aded me to excluded list
AFTER it i sent him PM

'hii
recommend you to include me to your trust list '

bribe\extort for what? what is my benefit?
 
please NOTE again i send this pm AFTER he exluded me

anyone that not stupid will understand this

I have been preparing an action against peloso since on or about 9 November. 

you may only suck Peloso's dick and you can recommend this action to your mom and she can suck my dick)
stupid asshole

[johhnyUA]

@nulius you're kinda becoming like TOAA/cryptohunter. Friendly advice: Long posts like these isn't helping anyone. Keep it small and precise.

I have been making long posts since December 2017; have you seen my post history?  Unlike cryptohunter’s posts, mine are cogent and legible, and express new thoughts rather than only repeating the same drivel ad maximam nauseam; to compare me to him says more about you than about me.

Anyway, I am here because this forum is not a total idiot-site like Reddit (or worse, Twitter).

It's depends on your goal here: if you want to be like a mad prophet crying his loud words and being on ignore list of many users - you can continue you tactic to ignore people's requests and the result will be like i've said.

If you want to be heard, you should try a little and post long posts where it is really needed, and stop where it isn't (like in this thread). People don't want to read one thought(idea) which is stretched in poem like size.

As it said in England - "Brevity is the soul of wit"

[AB de Royse777]

MATE. Take a break, and hoping things are becoming good for you. Prioritize your mental health over Peloso, or anyone from this forum. Trust me, it works wonders.

It had nothing to do with Peloso or anything related to the community. I had a COVID-19 patient in the family. From 18th to 24th he was in hospital. On 20th we moved him to ICO. From 21st he was in life support and on 24th he passed away. So, you can imagine how hard it was for me to think about anything else.

The entire family is still in risk although the test result came negative for all. But still we are not safe. We will wait one more week to have another round of test to ensure that we are clean. I and some other member were in direct touch with the patient, after all it's family. You can not just stay away and watch him passed away.

[peloso]

I suggest you leave the issues and move on.

and idiots such as nullius and efialtis will continue abusing thrust system? we must close our eyes to this shit?

[pugman]

MATE. Take a break, and hoping things are becoming good for you. Prioritize your mental health over Peloso, or anyone from this forum. Trust me, it works wonders.

It had nothing to do with Peloso or anything related to the community. I had a COVID-19 patient in the family. From 18th to 24th he was in hospital. On 20th we moved him to ICO. From 21st he was in life support and on 24th he passed away. So, you can imagine how hard it was for me to think about anything else.

The entire family is still in risk although the test result came negative for all. But still we are not safe. We will wait one more week to have another round of test to ensure that we are clean. I and some other member were in direct touch with the patient, after all it's family. You can not just stay away and watch him passed away.

Hope you guys are safe. Covid is one of the worst things to happen, and my family got tested positive a few months back as well, it sucks but everyone recovered thankfully. Take care please.

~~~

I know you have been making long posts, and your posts in 2017-2018 were constructive, helpful, informative. But now, it is different. I don't have a problem with you making long posts, I am just saying there is no need to write long paragraphs explaining abc's when you could just get to the point.

ok i repeat

FIRST efialtis aded me to excluded list
AFTER it i sent him PM

'hii
recommend you to include me to your trust list '

bribe\extort for what? what is my benefit?
 
please NOTE again i send this pm AFTER he exluded me

anyone that not stupid will understand this

He is no longer in DT, close the topic.