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January 04, 2021, 09:12:37 AM |
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The difference is that Trump is fighting hard. Hillary didn't put much of a fight.
Who recorded that phone call anyway? That alone is another crime imo.
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January 04, 2021, 10:49:55 AM |
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I don't see why Trump is trying to get the election results overturned via Congress.
Him only caring about himself makes sense. Not much else does.
The difference is that Trump is fighting hard. Hillary didn't put much of a fight.
Just imagine your reaction to a recording dropped of Hillary (or Obama) having a similar conversation with a Gov/SOS after the 2016 election but before Hillary conceded. Really ... close your eyes and imagine what you would've thought or said if that would have happened. (this would be a good line to focus on to try and change the topic into 'why did TS tell me to close my eyes') See how different it would be? Your head would explode. If you were arguing in good faith, you'd have a similar response regardless of the political views of the person in question. But you aren't.
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January 04, 2021, 04:36:28 PM |
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Sad. Trump is trying his best to make Nixon look like a saint. I listened to the whole call, not just the selected minutes. The call is a settlement talk, which should have not been leaked. Trump is nice to the crooked SOS, tells him to do the right thing, and discount at least some of fraudulent votes. The SOS keeps lying that all was OK. IMO Trump is being too agreeable, in his place I would have been much tougher on the SOS.
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January 04, 2021, 05:37:21 PM |
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Sad. Trump is trying his best to make Nixon look like a saint. I listened to the whole call, not just the selected minutes. The call is a settlement talk, which should have not been leaked. Trump is nice to the crooked SOS, tells him to do the right thing, and discount at least some of fraudulent votes. The SOS keeps lying that all was OK. IMO Trump is being too agreeable, in his place I would have been much tougher on the SOS. The problem with being too harsh is that it will affect the whole nation adversely. The basic problem is the Federal Reserve Bank. If we get too harsh with pointing out the corruption, it might take the banking system down. Such a thing would disrupt the whole world, but especially the people in the USA in their everyday lives. Trump doesn't want to hurt the people. He trying to clean up the corruption in a way that is going to benefit everybody. Such cleaning up is necessary, because moving us under a Biden/China regime directs everyone into Communism. Doing what Trump is trying to do - freedom for America with little pain to citizens - is proving to be a difficult and delicate operation.
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January 04, 2021, 08:46:22 PM |
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Sad. Trump is trying his best to make Nixon look like a saint. I listened to the whole call, not just the selected minutes. The call is a settlement talk, which should have not been leaked. Trump is nice to the crooked SOS, tells him to do the right thing, and discount at least some of fraudulent votes. The SOS keeps lying that all was OK. IMO Trump is being too agreeable, in his place I would have been much tougher on the SOS. I notice you didn't mention the part where Trump asked him to 'find 11,780 votes'. You're defending what Trump said on the phone call because you agree with Trump politically, not because you actually think what was said was an acceptable thing for a President to say to a SOS in this situation. In other words, you're arguing in bad faith.
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January 04, 2021, 08:56:13 PM |
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January 04, 2021, 09:38:45 PM |
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Sad. Trump is trying his best to make Nixon look like a saint. I listened to the whole call, not just the selected minutes. The call is a settlement talk, which should have not been leaked. Trump is nice to the crooked SOS, tells him to do the right thing, and discount at least some of fraudulent votes. The SOS keeps lying that all was OK. IMO Trump is being too agreeable, in his place I would have been much tougher on the SOS. I notice you didn't mention the part where Trump asked him to 'find 11,780 votes'. You're defending what Trump said on the phone call because you agree with Trump politically, not because you actually think what was said was an acceptable thing for a President to say to a SOS in this situation. In other words, you're arguing in bad faith. That was taken out of context. I agree that Trump has poorly phrased that, but what he meant was not "find me 11,780 votes for Trump", but to discount at least 11,780 (of many more) fraudulent votes for Biden.
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January 04, 2021, 11:18:46 PM |
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Sad. Trump is trying his best to make Nixon look like a saint. I listened to the whole call, not just the selected minutes. The call is a settlement talk, which should have not been leaked. Trump is nice to the crooked SOS, tells him to do the right thing, and discount at least some of fraudulent votes. The SOS keeps lying that all was OK. IMO Trump is being too agreeable, in his place I would have been much tougher on the SOS. I notice you didn't mention the part where Trump asked him to 'find 11,780 votes'. You're defending what Trump said on the phone call because you agree with Trump politically, not because you actually think what was said was an acceptable thing for a President to say to a SOS in this situation. In other words, you're arguing in bad faith. That was taken out of context. I agree that Trump has poorly phrased that, but what he meant was not "find me 11,780 votes for Trump", but to discount at least 11,780 (of many more) fraudulent votes for Biden. Adding 1 ballot for Trump is essentially the same as taking away 1 for Biden. What he meant was "make it so that I won", to the SOS that explicitly said he did not win. Either way, imagine the headlines you'd be posting if a similar recording of a Democrat were released. Would you be saying 'it shouldn't have been released', or 'that incriminating statement was phrased poorly?'. lol. Seriously, close your eyes and imagine what your reaction would be.
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January 05, 2021, 12:13:57 AM |
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Sad. Trump is trying his best to make Nixon look like a saint. I listened to the whole call, not just the selected minutes. The call is a settlement talk, which should have not been leaked. Trump is nice to the crooked SOS, tells him to do the right thing, and discount at least some of fraudulent votes. The SOS keeps lying that all was OK. IMO Trump is being too agreeable, in his place I would have been much tougher on the SOS. I notice you didn't mention the part where Trump asked him to 'find 11,780 votes'. You're defending what Trump said on the phone call because you agree with Trump politically, not because you actually think what was said was an acceptable thing for a President to say to a SOS in this situation. In other words, you're arguing in bad faith. That was taken out of context. I agree that Trump has poorly phrased that, but what he meant was not "find me 11,780 votes for Trump", but to discount at least 11,780 (of many more) fraudulent votes for Biden. Adding 1 ballot for Trump is essentially the same as taking away 1 for Biden. What he meant was "make it so that I won", to the SOS that explicitly said he did not win. Either way, imagine the headlines you'd be posting if a similar recording of a Democrat were released. Would you be saying 'it shouldn't have been released', or 'that incriminating statement was phrased poorly?'. lol. Seriously, close your eyes and imagine what your reaction would be. It was a litigation settlement, these are supposed to be privileged. I watched the SOS on Fox, avoiding to answer the question about the leak, he knows he's in trouble in many ways.
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January 05, 2021, 12:19:39 AM |
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Anybody who thinks about it a little, knows that the reason why Trump won in 2016 is, his people simply outdid Hillary's people in a touch of secret election fraud. Now in 2020, since they gotta get Trump out of there, the Dems have pulled out all the stops on the election fraud thing. Everybody is starting to see how corrupt the Dems really are. But this is what Trump and his people were really after in the first place. Trump wanted to take down the election fraud completely. But he couldn't do it until the Dems made it as obvious as they have, so that EVERYBODY in the world would know. Now, Trump has all the evidence that he needs to show the people what is really going on. Then it will be up to the people. What I mean is, when the people see the corruption that involves essentially all of the members of Congress, and if the people don't recall the whole Congress because they like the corruption that way, why in the world would an honest guy like Trump even want to be President for a second term, over a group like that - USA citizens - who want the corruption? As Trump brings the truth out into the open, and as the s**t hits the fan, if the people like it like that, they'll get what they deserve. I'm ready to stand up and fight to get rid of the corruption. Are you?
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January 05, 2021, 12:55:40 AM |
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Now, Trump has all the evidence that he needs to show the people what is really going on.
He's doing a really great job hiding that evidence. I'm ready to stand up and fight to get rid of the corruption. Are you?
You're a bit late to the party. Most people stood up and voted a couple of months ago. Yelling on the intertubes isn't gonna do shit against corruption.
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January 05, 2021, 03:16:19 AM |
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Why would Trump go to prison? I think democrats will forget about him the moment he is out of office as he drifts into irrelevancy. I like to think of it like the time Trump promised a special prosecutor for Hillary Clinton. The moment he won, he dropped the act really quick. The extremists in the Biden administration (such as Harris and those associated with Harris) want Trump in prison because they want to stomp out dissent, and want to prevent him from influencing voters. Unlike Clinton, Trump has a large base that is specific to him. Also, in the beginning of the Trump administration, Clinton largely was discrediting the Trump Presidency via proxies, while Trump will likely personally discredit the Biden administration.
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January 05, 2021, 03:16:30 AM |
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Sad. Trump is trying his best to make Nixon look like a saint. I listened to the whole call, not just the selected minutes. The call is a settlement talk, which should have not been leaked. Trump is nice to the crooked SOS, tells him to do the right thing, and discount at least some of fraudulent votes. The SOS keeps lying that all was OK. IMO Trump is being too agreeable, in his place I would have been much tougher on the SOS. I notice you didn't mention the part where Trump asked him to 'find 11,780 votes'. You're defending what Trump said on the phone call because you agree with Trump politically, not because you actually think what was said was an acceptable thing for a President to say to a SOS in this situation. In other words, you're arguing in bad faith. That was taken out of context. I agree that Trump has poorly phrased that, but what he meant was not "find me 11,780 votes for Trump", but to discount at least 11,780 (of many more) fraudulent votes for Biden. Adding 1 ballot for Trump is essentially the same as taking away 1 for Biden. What he meant was "make it so that I won", to the SOS that explicitly said he did not win. Either way, imagine the headlines you'd be posting if a similar recording of a Democrat were released. Would you be saying 'it shouldn't have been released', or 'that incriminating statement was phrased poorly?'. lol. Seriously, close your eyes and imagine what your reaction would be. It was a litigation settlement, these are supposed to be privileged. I watched the SOS on Fox, avoiding to answer the question about the leak, he knows he's in trouble in many ways. The cases were already litigated. Judge after judge threw them in the trash where they belong. What you heard was Trump both begging and trying to intimidate the SOS into making Trump the winner of Georgia. Pathetic on so many levels, but not the least bit surprising.
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BREAKING.... the lizard people are taking over, and hydroxychloroquine cures covid. I read it from a reliable source on the interwebz plus its confirmed by Tzupy and BADecker, so it must be true. Well I guess Spendy and Techy went bye bye. I wonder why.....
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Now, Trump has all the evidence that he needs to show the people what is really going on.
He's doing a really great job hiding that evidence. Actually, it's that you are doing a much better job of ignoring it. I'm ready to stand up and fight to get rid of the corruption. Are you?
You're a bit late to the party. Most people stood up and voted a couple of months ago. Yelling on the intertubes isn't gonna do shit against corruption. Not late at all. When you like corruption the way you seem to like it, it's only COURTeous that you should really be given the opportunity to change. But it seems like you aren't willing to change. You are pointing yourself towards treason.
BREAKING.... the lizard people are taking over, and hydroxychloroquine cures covid. I read it from a reliable source on the interwebz plus its confirmed by Tzupy and BADecker, so it must be true. Well I guess Spendy and Techy went bye bye. I wonder why..... All that you are saying is that some far left people use Wikipedia to propagandize anybody they can.
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January 05, 2021, 01:43:48 PM |
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Why would Trump go to prison? I think democrats will forget about him the moment he is out of office as he drifts into irrelevancy. I like to think of it like the time Trump promised a special prosecutor for Hillary Clinton. The moment he won, he dropped the act really quick. The extremists in the Biden administration (such as Harris and those associated with Harris) want Trump in prison because they want to stomp out dissent, and want to prevent him from influencing voters. Unlike Clinton, Trump has a large base that is specific to him. Also, in the beginning of the Trump administration, Clinton largely was discrediting the Trump Presidency via proxies, while Trump will likely personally discredit the Biden administration. A lot of people seem to be assuming Biden will weaponize the DOJ the way Trump has, I think that's very unlikely. It may sound extreme compared to how Trump does things now, but there was a system in place to keep any decisions involving domestic law enforcement away from the president, and the president would go out of his way to only encourage broad strategies to his LE and intelligence agencies on anything domestic. Suggesting charges or an investigation of specific group, or business, or person or, worst of them all, a political person would be unheard of and a massive scandal. Not just Obama, every president for decades. It's possible Biden tells the AG not to charge Trump, but I think the most likely situation will be Biden being as far away as possible from the decision. And I doubt his choice for AG will be based on anticipating how the nominee would deal with Trumps crimes specifically.
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January 05, 2021, 05:44:38 PM |
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346488314157797389Grab your popcorns. Law is law. If the vice president says Trump won, then Trump won. By a lot.
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January 05, 2021, 06:25:17 PM |
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The sad thing is millions of people will read that tweet and convince themselves it's true. Poor Pence - just when he thought he was getting out of there without an angry mob of crazys coming after him.
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January 05, 2021, 08:55:10 PM |
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He's done that a bunch of times recently.
Biden is Uniting the country before he even steps into the White House: Pretty crazy how much bipartisan support he's had both during and after the election.
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