The Kracken!

[TwitchySeal]

Sidney Powell seeks dismissal of Dominion's $1.3B suit
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/544399-sidney-powell-seeks-dismissal-of-dominions-13b-suit?rl=1


Her lawyer claims no reasonable person would conclude that her statements about Dominion were fact.  lol.  I agree.

[Gyfts]

Sidney Powell seeks dismissal of Dominion's $1.3B suit
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/544399-sidney-powell-seeks-dismissal-of-dominions-13b-suit?rl=1


Her lawyer claims no reasonable person would conclude that her statements about Dominion were fact.  lol.  I agree.

Seems like a reasonable defense, when you really think about it.

"Judge, what I said was so utterly braindead that no one could possible think that I was telling the truth!".

This is the same as Alex Jones's lawyer saying he was just a character when it came time for his divorce proceedings and no one should believe him. Makes you think if anyone that actually thought her lawsuit was worth a damn will admit they fell for a grifter but probably not.

[Viper1]

So how's the Kracken doing? Guess it slunk away with not so much as a whimper just as it seems Spendulous has done.

[sirazimuth]

So how's the Kracken doing? Guess it slunk away with not so much as a whimper just as it seems Spendulous has done.

Spendy couldn’t take the “oppression” .
Also, look at his OP. He ate up the nut job Sidney Powell voter fraud Kracken nonsense, hook, line, and sinker.
Which actually surprised me because I honestly thought he was smarter than that.
Maybe he has since come to his senses and now would prefer not to post here anymore for...reasons.

[DaveF]

So how's the Kracken doing? Guess it slunk away with not so much as a whimper just as it seems Spendulous has done.

He couldn’t take the “oppression” .
Also, look at his OP. He ate up the nut job Sidney Powell voter fraud Kracken nonsense, hook, line, and sinker.
Which actually surprised me because I honestly thought he was smarter than that.
Maybe he has since come to his senses and now would prefer not to post here anymore for...reasons.

Looking at random sampling of his posts he has only been posting in the P&S section for years.
Nothing to talk about now that the real adults are in charge and getting work done instead of the temper tantrum throwing child that was there before.

-Dave

[TwitchySeal]

At least he's not doubling down ala Tash/Mindtrust/Tzupy and co. I guess.

Sidney Powell seeks dismissal of Dominion's $1.3B suit
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/544399-sidney-powell-seeks-dismissal-of-dominions-13b-suit?rl=1


Her lawyer claims no reasonable person would conclude that her statements about Dominion were fact.  lol.  I agree.

Seems like a reasonable defense, when you really think about it.

"Judge, what I said was so utterly braindead that no one could possible think that I was telling the truth!".

This is the same as Alex Jones's lawyer saying he was just a character when it came time for his divorce proceedings and no one should believe him. Makes you think if anyone that actually thought her lawsuit was worth a damn will admit they fell for a grifter but probably not.

I agree, seems like it's probably the best defense.  I'm guessing she didn't go to the same law school as the lawyer defending her.

[PrimeNumber7]

Sidney Powell seeks dismissal of Dominion's $1.3B suit
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/544399-sidney-powell-seeks-dismissal-of-dominions-13b-suit?rl=1


Her lawyer claims no reasonable person would conclude that her statements about Dominion were fact.  lol.  I agree.

Seems like a reasonable defense, when you really think about it.

"Judge, what I said was so utterly braindead that no one could possible think that I was telling the truth!".

-

This is actually a common defense to libel cases of this nature.

Did anyone really believe Powell's claims regarding Dominion? Does anyone believe that Dominion's algorithms are set in a way that Biden will get more votes regardless of the outcome, except if Trump gets enough votes, the algorithm gets messed up? Anyone with a basic understanding of algebra knows this is not true. 

[DaveF]

This is actually a common defense to libel cases of this nature.

Did anyone really believe Powell's claims regarding Dominion? Does anyone believe that Dominion's algorithms are set in a way that Biden will get more votes regardless of the outcome, except if Trump gets enough votes, the algorithm gets messed up? Anyone with a basic understanding of algebra knows this is not true.  

Except she filed lawsuits. The fact that they were thrown out is irrelevant. Either she filed lawsuits in several state & federal courts with information that she believed was not true (that's a felony) OR she really believed what she was saying in which case she can't use it as a defense.

Slightly OT but since it was in my reply yesterday. People like Spendulous and a few others really irritate me here. It's not the politics, it's the lack of discussion anyplace else on the forum. Left / right / center does not matter, the P&S part of the forum is an open area for everyone to say what they want about P&S. BUT if you are only posting here and not anywhere else on the forum then you are just here to talk politics and not about BTC / crypto. There are other places to talk about that on the net. But come on, at least give an occasional post elsewhere.

-Dave

[PrimeNumber7]

This is actually a common defense to libel cases of this nature.

Did anyone really believe Powell's claims regarding Dominion? Does anyone believe that Dominion's algorithms are set in a way that Biden will get more votes regardless of the outcome, except if Trump gets enough votes, the algorithm gets messed up? Anyone with a basic understanding of algebra knows this is not true.  

Except she filed lawsuits. The fact that they were thrown out is irrelevant. Either she filed lawsuits in several state & federal courts with information that she believed was not true (that's a felony) OR she really believed what she was saying in which case she can't use it as a defense.

That is a good point. Making statements in court, including statements in a lawsuit is protected speech, so she cannot be sued for libel for anything she says in court. Also if she were to make the statement "I alleged in court that..." it would be factually true as long as she did in fact make the allegation in court. Ditto if she were to say "I plan on alleging in court...".

I read the actual article that Twitchy posted, and it says that Powell's claim is:

reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact but view them only as claims that await testing by the courts through the adversary process

I didn't follow the post-election drama real closely, however, I believe that some of the statements I cited in my last post did not ever make it into any lawsuit, or that some of the really crazy allegations did not make it into lawsuits. For some of these statements, the argument (that does not appear in the article) that no reasonable person would believe the claims were true, would probably be a good defense.

Slightly OT but since it was in my reply yesterday. People like Spendulous and a few others really irritate me here. It's not the politics, it's the lack of discussion anyplace else on the forum. Left / right / center does not matter, the P&S part of the forum is an open area for everyone to say what they want about P&S. BUT if you are only posting here and not anywhere else on the forum then you are just here to talk politics and not about BTC / crypto. There are other places to talk about that on the net. But come on, at least give an occasional post elsewhere.

-Dave

For Spendulous specifically, I reviewed his early posts, and it appears he might have been a miner in 2013 or possibly before. It looks like his early posts consisted of a lot in the P&S sub, and in the economics sub with posts related to bitcoin and how it relates to economics. My guess is this place is special to him because he likely made a lot of money via bitcoin. The political leanings of the userbase has shifted over time, and I think more people probably agreed with his views when he first started posting here.

I would also note that I will make a post the majority of the time when I read a thread in P&S for the first time, but I will read bitcoin-related threads and not make a post most of the time. Sometimes I will add a bitcoin-related thread to my watchlist, and not post in the thread for months, if ever.

[DaveF]

... that no reasonable person would believe the claims were true, would probably be a good defense.

Going to be interesting to watch. I think her biggest issue still comes back to the fact that she is a lawyer.
In my (non legal knowlwdge) opinion Mike Lindell could probably use that defense since he is a convicted felon, and his company has been sued many times and lost for false claims. So he can show a pattern of being less then honest with what he says so nobody should believe him or his claims.  

Slightly OT but since it was in my reply yesterday. People like Spendulous and a few others really irritate me here. It's not the politics, it's the lack of discussion anyplace else on the forum. Left / right / center does not matter, the P&S part of the forum is an open area for everyone to say what they want about P&S. BUT if you are only posting here and not anywhere else on the forum then you are just here to talk politics and not about BTC / crypto. There are other places to talk about that on the net. But come on, at least give an occasional post elsewhere.

-Dave

For Spendulous specifically, I reviewed his early posts, and it appears he might have been a miner in 2013 or possibly before. It looks like his early posts consisted of a lot in the P&S sub, and in the economics sub with posts related to bitcoin and how it relates to economics. My guess is this place is special to him because he likely made a lot of money via bitcoin. The political leanings of the userbase has shifted over time, and I think more people probably agreed with his views when he first started posting here.

I would also note that I will make a post the majority of the time when I read a thread in P&S for the first time, but I will read bitcoin-related threads and not make a post most of the time. Sometimes I will add a bitcoin-related thread to my watchlist, and not post in the thread for months, if ever.

Looking at the last 100 or so of your posts way more then 1/2 of them are elsewhere. Did not do a full count since I am on mobile. Hell even if only 10% of posts are elsewhere that does not bother me. But when I take a casual look at 1000s of posts going back years and someone never leaves P&S then I just wonder why they are here. As for Spendulous 2013 era posts it looks like for a short time he was posting elsewhere buy by Jan 2014 was in P&S only. Once again, on mobile so I did not check every post just a quick glance though the list.

It's just my view. I might mention BTC on the motorcycle forum I use in their open discussion area.
I might discuss politics in the several tech discussion areas that I am in, but it's not the main reason I am there.
And unlike here there seems to be no people who just sit in the open discussion areas elsewhere.

Either way it's not that important, just a gripe of mine.

-Dave

Edit since someone just pinged me: No, I don't care if you spend all your time in the other languages part of the forum, a lot of people don't speak / understand English.

[suchmoon]

At least he's not doubling down ala Tash/Mindtrust/Tzupy and co. I guess.

Yeah... I'm sure it's a pure coincidence that when he "disappeared" a purchased account popped up to carry the QAnon tiki-torch.

[Tzupy]

California Officials Accepted 99.4 Percent Of Mail-In Ballots In 2020. With Newsom Recall, It’s A Completely Different Story (18.3 percent rejects)
https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/25/california-officials-accepted-99-4-percent-of-mail-in-ballots-in-2020-with-newsom-recall-its-a-completely-different-story/

[Tzupy]

California Officials Accepted 99.4 Percent Of Mail-In Ballots In 2020. With Newsom Recall, It’s A Completely Different Story

Is it a completely different story because one thing is an election and the other is a recall?

Both cases involve signature verification, but the verification can be lax or strict. In case of the election it was lax, in case of the recall it is strict, or worse (real voters are disenfranchised on purpose).


SPECIAL INVESTIGATION: INFILTRATING THE ELECTION
https://wisconsinspotlight.com/special-investigation-infiltrating-the-election/

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

[TwitchySeal]

California Officials Accepted 99.4 Percent Of Mail-In Ballots In 2020. With Newsom Recall, It’s A Completely Different Story

Is it a completely different story because one thing is an election and the other is a recall?

Both cases involve signature verification, but the verification can be lax or strict. In case of the election it was lax, in case of the recall it is strict, or worse (real voters are disenfranchised on purpose).

Petition signatures are gathered on street corners and knocking on doors.  It's a lot different than an actual election.

[sirazimuth]

California Officials Accepted 99.4 Percent Of Mail-In Ballots In 2020. With Newsom Recall, It’s A Completely Different Story

Is it a completely different story because one thing is an election and the other is a recall?

Both cases involve signature verification, but the verification can be lax or strict. In case of the election it was lax, in case of the recall it is strict, or worse (real voters are disenfranchised on purpose).


SPECIAL INVESTIGATION: INFILTRATING THE ELECTION
https://wisconsinspotlight.com/special-investigation-infiltrating-the-election/

Wait a minute dude, you didn't make this a "breaking" link  and its not the Gateway Pundit.... so I call it fake news......

LONG LIVE THE BREAKING KRACKEN!!


Speaking of which, where's my good buddy BADecker?
I need some of his komical, Kracken klaptrap to give me a good Kracken kackle....

[BADecker]

Both cases involve signature verification, but the verification can be lax or strict. In case of the election it was lax, in case of the recall it is strict, or worse (real voters are disenfranchised on purpose).


SPECIAL INVESTIGATION: INFILTRATING THE ELECTION
https://wisconsinspotlight.com/special-investigation-infiltrating-the-election/

Wait a minute dude, you didn't make this a "breaking" link  and its not the Gateway Pundit.... so I call it fake news......

LONG LIVE THE BREAKING KRACKEN!!


Speaking of which, where's my good buddy BADecker?
I need some of his komical, Kracken klaptrap to give me a good Kracken kackle....

If the KRAKEN didn't work as expected - there is some tiny chance that we will see action on it yet - there is one thing that is the outcome. And we should start preparing for it to become apparent, visible, and the new way of life. What is this outcome? The US Federal Government has died. It's up to the people to make their State into their national government... while using what is left of the Federal to help to position themselves, somewhat, as appropriate.

[TwitchySeal]

If the KRAKEN didn't work as expected

"If" is a big step.  I'm proud of you BADecker.

[BADecker]

If the KRAKEN didn't work as expected

"If" is a big step.  I'm proud of you BADecker.

It's a shame you can't seem to understand the demise of the US under Biden.

[TwitchySeal]

If the KRAKEN didn't work as expected

"If" is a big step.  I'm proud of you BADecker.

It's a shame you can't seem to understand the demise of the US under Biden.

You've finally accepted America is under Biden....honestly I never thought I'd see the day.

[BADecker]

If the KRAKEN didn't work as expected

"If" is a big step.  I'm proud of you BADecker.

It's a shame you can't seem to understand the demise of the US under Biden.

You've finally accepted America is under Biden....honestly I never thought I'd see the day.

You don't seem to understand that America isn't under any president. If a president came up to you and told you to do something that you didn't want to do, there are only two pieces of authority that he has over you officially:
1. Certain banking laws, if and when you use Federal Reserve or Treasury banking;
2. Crossing the borders of your state as some form of corporate entity, for the purpose of doing business.

He is strong enough, and his underlings are intimidated by him enough, that he might be able to order them to make all kinds of trouble for you in your life. But he is not YOUR king, or even your president. He might be president of the United States Corporate Government. But God is your king. If you have taken a binding oath, or if you have contracted yourself with the Corporation, then they might have authority over you according to the terms of the contract.

The whole problem is that the presidents have become strong enough that they can easily usurp some authority in ways that might harm you if you don't obey what they say. But they are undermining the whole US Government when they do this. How? By the Preamble to the Constitution. According to the Preamble, there is only one reason for the Constitution and the Government of the United States. That reason is stated in the Preamble, and it is not a legal thing, rather it's a lawful thing.