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It does 61 mhs on eth with 110 watts. It's way better than 5700. I predicted it to be way better than 3070 x performance ratio, i mean being the 3070 a failure of course, both 256 bit bus on gddr6, right now a 3060 ti is a better bet than 5700, will hold better resale value. A person that wants to mine eth can't go wrong with 3060 ti. It will be the choice gpu for miners I guess.
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It does 61 mhs on eth with 110 watts. It's way better than 5700. I predicted it to be way better than 3070 x performance ratio, both 256 bit bus on gddr6, right now a 3060 ti is a better bet than 5700, will hold better resale value.
Well if you can grab them at 400 they are better then amd 6800 at 600 and you can no longer get the amd 5700 under 400 If these launch with stock to buy them they also hurt the 1080ti resale prices. 1080ti's are going for over 300 up to 400 These at 399 are better. All depends on if you can buy them. And if eth price stays high.
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yeah, I guess we can say a 3060 ti is likewise what a rx 470 was in 2017. It will hold resale value quite well. The 3070 as I predicted was a failure, 100 usd for the same hashrate on eth is just a no go, miners need to save money, eth mining is soon gone and if roi is more than 360 days then gameover, not worth the hassle. The 3060 ti is 24% faster than rx 5700 and yet the same price, so in theory will hold at least 24% more resale value for gamers.
Also if we compare, a 3080 for gaming, uses 352 watts and the 3060 ti uses 206 watts, that is almost 146 less watts than the 3080 which equals 40% or so, we need to know stock hashrates to determine if the 3060 ti is better than the 3080.
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The 3060ti performance beats RX5700 with 10 more Hashrates when I tested it days ago, the 3060ti gives an exact of 61MH/s when mining Ethereum and my RX5700 did on 50 MH/s, for the price I think it's pretty good and the nvidia card is more cooler than the AMD RX5700
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The 3060ti performance beats RX5700 with 10 more Hashrates when I tested it days ago, the 3060ti gives an exact of 61MH/s when mining Ethereum and my RX5700 did on 50 MH/s, for the price I think it's pretty good and the nvidia card is more cooler than the AMD RX5700
The good thing here is that you dont need to modify the bios. 3060ti 61mhs stock? I think rx 5700 stock is 51 mhs.
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It does 61 mhs on eth with 110 watts. It's way better than 5700. I predicted it to be way better than 3070 x performance ratio, i mean being the 3070 a failure of course, both 256 bit bus on gddr6, right now a 3060 ti is a better bet than 5700, will hold better resale value. A person that wants to mine eth can't go wrong with 3060 ti. It will be the choice gpu for miners I guess.
If really does 61Mhs with 110w on the wall, it will be the best card to mine 2 of them will do 122Mhs with 220w, better than 3080 5600xt can do 40Mhs for 90w and will lost the best efficiency per watt But will be impossible to buy at MSRP like any other GPUs I saw some tests here and 3060ti is very close to 3070, and I think 3070 will be the worst card to buy because of the price
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If really does 61Mhs with 110w on the wall, it will be the best card to mine 2 of them will do 122Mhs with 220w, better than 3080
5600xt can do 40Mhs for 90w and will lost the best efficiency per watt
But will be impossible to buy at MSRP like any other GPUs
I saw some tests here and 3060ti is very close to 3070, and I think 3070 will be the worst card to buy because of the price
Yeah, 5600xt/5700 is pretty much dead for mining. I still prefer the 3080 for density, managing 2 x 3080 is better than 3 x 3060 ti, on performance per watt then 2 x 230 = 460 watts, 3 x 120 watts = 360 watts, yeah you save 100 watts with 3060 ti. I guess possibly the 3060 ti is a little bit ahead in the end.
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Yeah, 5600xt/5700 is pretty much dead for mining. I still prefer the 3080 for density, managing 2 x 3080 is better than 3 x 3060 ti, on performance per watt then 2 x 230 = 460 watts, 3 x 120 watts = 360 watts, yeah you save 100 watts with 3060 ti. I guess possibly the 3060 ti is a little bit ahead in the end.
For people like me who pays more on electricity, I'll prefer to save 100w in the end, Nvidia cards are pretty easy to deal, even 6 card or + rigs AMDs ones are hard to keep running 24/7, but I always liked Nvidia ones to maintain, only set overclock and undervolt in MSI Afterburner and let mining for months without restart Don't know the prices you guys have, but here in my country, 3070 are the same price as 3080 at the launch, and 3080 skyrocketed and costs 30% more There's no card to buy right now with reasonable prices, only 5600 and 5700xt I'll try to grab one 3060ti at launch here, I'm sure they will increase the price on second batch, and unfortunately here, they are using bots to buy
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For people like me who pays more on electricity, I'll prefer to save 100w in the end, Nvidia cards are pretty easy to deal, even 6 card or + rigs AMDs ones are hard to keep running 24/7, but I always liked Nvidia ones to maintain, only set overclock and undervolt in MSI Afterburner and let mining for months without restart
Yeah, nvidia gpus are always easier to manage than amd, also a lot less issues and problems which is why nvidia gpus have resale values higher than amd. Anything you can save on electricity and yet manage is not that hard then is better, reason the 3060 ti might in the end be a better gpu than what rx 470 was in 2017.
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hmmm 61MH @ 120W makes it about 20% more efficient than a 5700 and 10% more efficient than a 5600. Definitely worth considering if the price is right.
I agree amd rigs do require a little bit of TLC, but once you do a couple it isn't _that_ bad. I used up the last few amps of capacity by building rx5600 rigs. 44mh @ 90+W. Managed to cramp 8 of these in a server case with a single 1000w psu, so in terms of density, it is about on par with the 3060ti
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plus amd cards havent been effected by the dag as much as similar nvidia cards
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WHAT HAS HAPPENED NOW IS YOU JUST CAN'T BUY NEW CARDS AT A GOOD PRICE.
I shouted that because eventually this happened in 2018 Jan and Feb then it all crashed.
Not saying don't buy any gpus. I am saying go slow.
Maybe I get lucky with a 3060ti or 2 tomorrow. But not looking to get 3 or 4.
I have gotten an offer for 50x 3080 shipped on the 20th of December. but I don't want to put up over 35k
Just to have market crash.
I have 2 30 2 6 11 1
52 cards almost paid off
I don't need to buy 50 and be 35k in the hole
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up to november 2017 was okay to buy gpus, eth was 400 usd, once eth started going up and reached 1400 usd then it got crazy, I saw rx 580 sold for $800 and up and the msrp was $200.
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50x for 35k? should have jumped on it and be a gpu reseller
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WHAT HAS HAPPENED NOW IS YOU JUST CAN'T BUY NEW CARDS AT A GOOD PRICE.
I shouted that because eventually this happened in 2018 Jan and Feb then it all crashed.
Not saying don't buy any gpus. I am saying go slow.
I can't believe and fully understand what's happening right now, it looks like people are in FOMO to buy and have GPUs, at least in my country people are buying at extremely high prices and every single GPUs stores put to sell, sold out in a few minutes (1 to 5 minutes to be precise) We have a kind of Craigslist here, and people are buying and selling with 50% profits and people are still buying, without warranty, and not only for mining, but gamers are waking up early just to see if store add more stock online We all know market will eventualy crash have a correction and at least my gear is almost paid, and the value of my GPUs are good 3060ti will probably be my last try to get a GPU this year at a reasonably price
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50x for 35k? should have jumped on it and be a gpu reseller If the cards were in hand I would have purchased them all. But they ship out on Dec 20 I get them on Dec 24 or 26. That is too long. Market may correct by then. I have 52-53 cards 3 x 3080 12x 5700xt 12x 5600 9 x 5500 11 1080ti's 3 1660ti's 1 1660 1 1050 still mines at a profit on kpow I owe less than 1.2k and I am clearing almost 60 a day under very temporary free power deal. So in 20 days all cards are free and clear. My profits drop from 60 down to 30 a day as free power for the cards goes by by. But to have all those cards paid off is money in the bank. I am hoping for shortages to continue. As I have listed the 1080ti's and the 1660tis and the 1660 and the 1050 is not for sale https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288643.0
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