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November 08, 2022, 07:51:41 AM |
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I said numerous times that I don't agree with banning Russian players to compete in international competitions but I agree that many years and even decades will pass until Russia will be hosting another competition like World Cup or Olympic games. Hosting an international competition is by far more political business than Russian players playing in the international competitions.
FIFA doesn't have any issue in Qatar hosting the world cup and Saudi Arabia taking part in it. If countries involved in ongoing conflicts need to be excluded, then how come Saudi Arabia is participating? Currently they are engaged in a bloody civil war in Yemen, which has killed far more people when compared to the Russo-Ukrainian conflict. The only possible reason is that Asian lives are worth less than European lives for the FIFA. On top of that who will have the courage to take a stance against the Arabs, who are swimming in wads of money? FIFA made a wrong decision to banned Russia from Qatar 2022 world cup, it's unfair for the players who are innocent for a crime they never committed. Politics should be set outside from football for betterment of the game, they're so many countries in the world that are worse than Russia. But US and EU will always have their ways in every organisation.
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The squad from Brazil has already left for the World Cup.
Goalkeepers: Alisson (Liverpool), Ederson (Man. City) and Weverton (Palmeiras); Defenders: Dani Alves (Pumas), Danilo (Juventus), Alex Sandro (Juventus), Alex Telles (Seville), Bremer (Juventus), Éder Militão (Real Madrid), Marquinhos (PSG) and Thiago Silva (Chelsea); Midfielders: Bruno Guimarães (Newcastle), Casemiro (Man. United), Everton Ribeiro (Flamengo), Fabinho (Liverpool), Fred (Man. United) and Lucas Paqueta (West Ham); Forwards: Antony (Man. United), Gabriel Jesus (Arsenal), Gabriel Martinelli (Arsenal), Neymar (PSG), Pedro (Flamengo), Raphinha (Barcelona), Richarlison (Tottenham), Rodrigo (Real Madrid) and Vinícius Jr. (Real Madrid)
Looking at this list, we notice that only 2 or 3 players are in clubs in Brazil, the rest are in European clubs. Will this be the team capable of winning the world cup?
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November 08, 2022, 07:57:10 AM |
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I said numerous times that I don't agree with banning Russian players to compete in international competitions but I agree that many years and even decades will pass until Russia will be hosting another competition like World Cup or Olympic games. Hosting an international competition is by far more political business than Russian players playing in the international competitions.
FIFA doesn't have any issue in Qatar hosting the world cup and Saudi Arabia taking part in it. If countries involved in ongoing conflicts need to be excluded, then how come Saudi Arabia is participating? Currently they are engaged in a bloody civil war in Yemen, which has killed far more people when compared to the Russo-Ukrainian conflict. The only possible reason is that Asian lives are worth less than European lives for the FIFA. On top of that who will have the courage to take a stance against the Arabs, who are swimming in wads of money? Because FIFA knows that it is a political issue that is being raised by some Westerners, of course the rejection is based on illogical grounds, FIFA understands very well to choose the Middle East Country as the hosting of this year's World Cup, because the countries of Qatar and Dubai are the most it's safe to hold a World Cup event, then why has the refusal been done recently, why not from the start there was a rejection from the western countries, of course this will be related to politics, that's the selfishness of the western block people who always mix politics with football, because of that It's not appropriate if football is mixed with dirty western politics..
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November 08, 2022, 08:14:19 AM |
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I said numerous times that I don't agree with banning Russian players to compete in international competitions but I agree that many years and even decades will pass until Russia will be hosting another competition like World Cup or Olympic games. Hosting an international competition is by far more political business than Russian players playing in the international competitions.
FIFA doesn't have any issue in Qatar hosting the world cup and Saudi Arabia taking part in it. If countries involved in ongoing conflicts need to be excluded, then how come Saudi Arabia is participating? Currently they are engaged in a bloody civil war in Yemen, which has killed far more people when compared to the Russo-Ukrainian conflict. The only possible reason is that Asian lives are worth less than European lives for the FIFA. On top of that who will have the courage to take a stance against the Arabs, who are swimming in wads of money? FIFA made a wrong decision to banned Russia from Qatar 2022 world cup, it's unfair for the players who are innocent for a crime they never committed. Politics should be set outside from football for betterment of the game, they're so many countries in the world that are worse than Russia. But US and EU will always have their ways in every organisation. Russia has received one of the largest sanctions on actions in the wake of military strikes in Ukraine. All clubs and national teams of the country have been banned by FIFA and UEFA. But it was not right for FIFA and Wafer to take such a harsh decision. They should forget political vendettas in sports even though the country's military is in such a state of war, action resources are not involved. So I think such a harsh decision never gets accepted as a proper decision.
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November 08, 2022, 08:22:55 AM |
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I said numerous times that I don't agree with banning Russian players to compete in international competitions but I agree that many years and even decades will pass until Russia will be hosting another competition like World Cup or Olympic games. Hosting an international competition is by far more political business than Russian players playing in the international competitions.
FIFA doesn't have any issue in Qatar hosting the world cup and Saudi Arabia taking part in it. If countries involved in ongoing conflicts need to be excluded, then how come Saudi Arabia is participating? Currently they are engaged in a bloody civil war in Yemen, which has killed far more people when compared to the Russo-Ukrainian conflict. The only possible reason is that Asian lives are worth less than European lives for the FIFA. On top of that who will have the courage to take a stance against the Arabs, who are swimming in wads of money? Because FIFA knows that it is a political issue that is being raised by some Westerners, of course the rejection is based on illogical grounds, FIFA understands very well to choose the Middle East Country as the hosting of this year's World Cup, because the countries of Qatar and Dubai are the most it's safe to hold a World Cup event, then why has the refusal been done recently, why not from the start there was a rejection from the western countries, of course this will be related to politics, that's the selfishness of the western block people who always mix politics with football, because of that It's not appropriate if football is mixed with dirty western politics.. We can't turn on anyone at least this equipment will start in the middle of this month, at least respect the decision of FIFA and Qatar as the host of the World Cup, because there is no history of the World Cup being held in the Middle East, We do know that this country is a country Conflicts between friends, but it's true that FIFA knows which Middle Eastern countries are safe to host this World Cup, only those 2 countries are safe to visit and host, I don't even bother with political issues or the like, at least we can watch safe matches, even though there are many criticisms from western countries regarding the war in Russia and in the middle east, it's a matter of western politics that doesn't want Russia to play in the World Cup, because of the sanctions given by the west to Russia..
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People all over the world are facing a lot of problems because of the war between these two countries, Russia and Ukraine. I think this problem is more on the financial side. The conflict between their two countries is not being played properly. But when is the conflict between their two countries? No one knows if it will end and no one can say how long it will last like this. But it's having an effect on the game I imagine.
And because of those problems Russia is under economic and bunch of other sanctions. It doesn't make sense to ban players from competing just because they are Russians. If they did nothing wrong, why should they be punished?
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November 08, 2022, 04:37:39 PM |
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Messi just had a small injury, but he is definitely playing in this world cup. Leo Messi will remain in treatment for an inflamed Achilles tendon as a precautionary measure. He will resume training next week. We are just over 2 weeks away from the start of the World Cup, and the players going to Qatar will have to start managing their physical condition, so that injuries don't get in the way. Probably Messi started training, but maybe he won't do 90 minutes again, in the next games, just in case. Some things, like injuries, you can't plan or prevent, it just happen. We already have a long list of football players who will not be able to participate in the World Cup due to injuries. The case of Pogba is certainly the most famous, but not the only one. Messi is an extremely important football player for the Argentine team, their best player and leader, and if he has problems with injury, the coach will surely keep him for more important matches at the World Cup. It would be a real tragedy if, due to an injury, Messi misses his last chance to become a world champion with the Argentine national team.
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November 09, 2022, 02:46:31 AM |
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~snip~ Some things, like injuries, you can't plan or prevent, it just happen. We already have a long list of football players who will not be able to participate in the World Cup due to injuries. The case of Pogba is certainly the most famous, but not the only one. Messi is an extremely important football player for the Argentine team, their best player and leader, and if he has problems with injury, the coach will surely keep him for more important matches at the World Cup. It would be a real tragedy if, due to an injury, Messi misses his last chance to become a world champion with the Argentine national team.
Yeah, you just have to be prepared for the worst. You never know what will happen, but I'm sure that Messi is preparing his mind as well as his body for this world cup, as it's going to be his last one. He already decided that he won't be playing in the next one. I'm not sure what would be worse though, missing it because of an injury, or because he just didn't play exceptionally well...
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November 09, 2022, 03:03:30 AM |
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And because of those problems Russia is under economic and bunch of other sanctions. It doesn't make sense to ban players from competing just because they are Russians. If they did nothing wrong, why should they be punished?
Previously FIFA had a policy of separating politics from sport. And that is why North Korea was allowed to compete in one of the previous tournaments. Sports always gives us an opportunity to make advancements in global peace. But then, NATO started pressurizing FIFA and as a result of that they were forced to suspend both Russia and Belarus from the tournament. Next they may ban China. If sports bodies ban any country which they don't like, then their own reputation will be going down the drain. This is something that can't be encouraged.
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November 09, 2022, 03:09:55 AM |
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~snip~ Some things, like injuries, you can't plan or prevent, it just happen. We already have a long list of football players who will not be able to participate in the World Cup due to injuries. The case of Pogba is certainly the most famous, but not the only one. Messi is an extremely important football player for the Argentine team, their best player and leader, and if he has problems with injury, the coach will surely keep him for more important matches at the World Cup. It would be a real tragedy if, due to an injury, Messi misses his last chance to become a world champion with the Argentine national team.
Yeah, you just have to be prepared for the worst. You never know what will happen, but I'm sure that Messi is preparing his mind as well as his body for this world cup, as it's going to be his last one. He already decided that he won't be playing in the next one. I'm not sure what would be worse though, missing it because of an injury, or because he just didn't play exceptionally well... @nullama I feel bad for Pogba because while he failed at Manchester United, but he performed exceptionally well while playing for France hence he’ll be sorely missed. Furthermore Messi should hopefully recover in time because I’ll be gutted to see him miss his last World Cup, and lastly I hope that Varane recovers too as he’s an important player for France.
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November 09, 2022, 03:52:51 AM |
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~snip~ @nullama I feel bad for Pogba because while he failed at Manchester United, but he performed exceptionally well while playing for France hence he’ll be sorely missed. Furthermore Messi should hopefully recover in time because I’ll be gutted to see him miss his last World Cup, and lastly I hope that Varane recovers too as he’s an important player for France.
I think Messi's injury is minor and he'll be at his 100% for the world cup. He's just taking some rest as extra precaution. But this world cup will be a massively competitive one, so he might even get injured in the first match there.
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November 09, 2022, 06:53:51 AM |
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I feel bad for Pogba because while he failed at Manchester United, but he performed exceptionally well while playing for France hence he’ll be sorely missed. Furthermore Messi should hopefully recover in time because I’ll be gutted to see him miss his last World Cup, and lastly I hope that Varane recovers too as he’s an important player for France.
Now as we are near to start of this event injuries list is going longer specially few good players are set to miss this event which was waited by millions for four years Pogba's absence is surely going to hurt France with few more players are also missing which is surely not suitable thing, and we can hope this list will not increase near the world cup Argentina is also having few problems. But, hopefully things could be in good shape for them as Dybala and Messi having minor injuries now we have just last round left in UEFA clubs matches which need some calm for many players and teams Messi is surely having big dream for this world cup, and we are going to watch good performance from him and his company.
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November 09, 2022, 07:00:37 AM |
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And because of those problems Russia is under economic and bunch of other sanctions. It doesn't make sense to ban players from competing just because they are Russians. If they did nothing wrong, why should they be punished?
Previously FIFA had a policy of separating politics from sport. And that is why North Korea was allowed to compete in one of the previous tournaments. Sports always gives us an opportunity to make advancements in global peace. But then, NATO started pressurizing FIFA and as a result of that they were forced to suspend both Russia and Belarus from the tournament. Next they may ban China. If sports bodies ban any country which they don't like, then their own reputation will be going down the drain. This is something that can't be encouraged. I wasn't aware that NATO was pressuring FIFA to ban Russia and Belarus. I understand that FIFA is not so powerful organization like NATO so it's somewhat understandable why they banned those two countries. But still no one can say that it's fair. But when politics is involved, unfortunately nothing is fair.
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And because of those problems Russia is under economic and bunch of other sanctions. It doesn't make sense to ban players from competing just because they are Russians. If they did nothing wrong, why should they be punished?
Previously FIFA had a policy of separating politics from sport. And that is why North Korea was allowed to compete in one of the previous tournaments. Sports always gives us an opportunity to make advancements in global peace. But then, NATO started pressurizing FIFA and as a result of that they were forced to suspend both Russia and Belarus from the tournament. Next they may ban China. If sports bodies ban any country which they don't like, then their own reputation will be going down the drain. This is something that can't be encouraged. I wasn't aware that NATO was pressuring FIFA to ban Russia and Belarus. I understand that FIFA is not so powerful organization like NATO so it's somewhat understandable why they banned those two countries. But still no one can say that it's fair. But when politics is involved, unfortunately nothing is fair. Russian,the war criminals should be banned by any competition and not just only football,I strongly agree with FIFA decision and Belarus was a supporting country of a senseless war of an imperial dream fantasy of one ill man like Putin is. It is extremely fair this time unless you live in a dream world too and do not see massive grave places that Russian soldiers deliberately killed innocent civilians,but enough politics,it is going to be a great World Cup and the absence of Russia and Belarus I don't think it will cause a big deal.
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Russian,the war criminals should be banned by any competition and not just only football,I strongly agree with FIFA decision and Belarus was a supporting country of a senseless war of an imperial dream fantasy of one ill man like Putin is.
It is extremely fair this time unless you live in a dream world too and do not see massive grave places that Russian soldiers deliberately killed innocent civilians,but enough politics,it is going to be a great World Cup and the absence of Russia and Belarus I don't think it will cause a big deal.
I don't know which country are you from but would you be OK if your country attacked someone and you get sanctioned because of that? And you don't have anything to do with that attack? I'm not saying that sanctions to Russia are not needed but not in sports where players have nothing to do with the war. People who are responsible for the war (politicians) should be punished, not players.
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The squad from Brazil has already left for the World Cup.
Goalkeepers: Alisson (Liverpool), Ederson (Man. City) and Weverton (Palmeiras); Defenders: Dani Alves (Pumas), Danilo (Juventus), Alex Sandro (Juventus), Alex Telles (Seville), Bremer (Juventus), Éder Militão (Real Madrid), Marquinhos (PSG) and Thiago Silva (Chelsea); Midfielders: Bruno Guimarães (Newcastle), Casemiro (Man. United), Everton Ribeiro (Flamengo), Fabinho (Liverpool), Fred (Man. United) and Lucas Paqueta (West Ham); Forwards: Antony (Man. United), Gabriel Jesus (Arsenal), Gabriel Martinelli (Arsenal), Neymar (PSG), Pedro (Flamengo), Raphinha (Barcelona), Richarlison (Tottenham), Rodrigo (Real Madrid) and Vinícius Jr. (Real Madrid)
Looking at this list, we notice that only 2 or 3 players are in clubs in Brazil, the rest are in European clubs. Will this be the team capable of winning the world cup?
The Brazilian national team has announced its official squad for the World Cup. But unfortunately Tite did not include Firmino in his squad that flew to Qatar. Tite prefers Richarlison over Roberto Firmino. In fact, if you refer to the goal record, Firmino has scored six goals in the Premier League. Then what became my focus was when Gabriel Magalhaes was not called up, even though his performance with Arsenal was quite good and deserved to be in the squad rather than Bremer. However, that was Tite's decision. I still appreciate it in terms of choosing the composition of players to bring to Qatar. And I wish Brazil success in the 22nd edition of the World Cup this year.
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Russian,the war criminals should be banned by any competition and not just only football,I strongly agree with FIFA decision and Belarus was a supporting country of a senseless war of an imperial dream fantasy of one ill man like Putin is.
It is extremely fair this time unless you live in a dream world too and do not see massive grave places that Russian soldiers deliberately killed innocent civilians,but enough politics,it is going to be a great World Cup and the absence of Russia and Belarus I don't think it will cause a big deal.
I don't know which country are you from but would you be OK if your country attacked someone and you get sanctioned because of that? And you don't have anything to do with that attack? I'm not saying that sanctions to Russia are not needed but not in sports where players have nothing to do with the war. People who are responsible for the war (politicians) should be punished, not players. Yes I would be OK as those politicians represent me,they were chosen by the vote of their people and what is worse than any sanction and any ban from competitions is that 83% of that Russian civil population agree with this ill senseless war. Therefore also players of any sport should be banned so they raise their voice against the actions of their government,so far I have not seen a single Russian athlete raise their voice against such war of violence that is going on from many months.
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Yes I would be OK as those politicians represent me,they were chosen by the vote of their people and what is worse than any sanction and any ban from competitions is that 83% of that Russian civil population agree with this ill senseless war.
Therefore also players of any sport should be banned so they raise their voice against the actions of their government,so far I have not seen a single Russian athlete raise their voice against such war of violence that is going on from many months.
Again, I'm not sure which country are you from but have it cross your mind that they are afraid to talk publicly against the war? After all, in first months of the war (I'm not sure if that's still the case) Putin created a law that punishes everyone who would say that it's a war. It was suppose to be called a military operation. So maybe majority of people are just too scared to publicly talk against it.
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Yes I would be OK as those politicians represent me,they were chosen by the vote of their people and what is worse than any sanction and any ban from competitions is that 83% of that Russian civil population agree with this ill senseless war.
Therefore also players of any sport should be banned so they raise their voice against the actions of their government,so far I have not seen a single Russian athlete raise their voice against such war of violence that is going on from many months.
Again, I'm not sure which country are you from but have it cross your mind that they are afraid to talk publicly against the war? After all, in first months of the war (I'm not sure if that's still the case) Putin created a law that punishes everyone who would say that it's a war. It was suppose to be called a military operation. So maybe majority of people are just too scared to publicly talk against it. I get mad at a senseless war because I am from a country which democracy rules the people here.I know that they published a law that anyone who discredit the military will get punished by law from 15.000 RUB fines up to years in prison and I also saw the protests in the beginning which were shut down by force.Having said that why do 83% of people still support this senseless invasion? I think enough of politics here as the thread is derailing,I support Argentina to win the world cup and I think they have high chances,also Messi would be playing his last World Cup most probably and also the Argentinian team has quite some quality players to help him achieve this.
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Yes I would be OK as those politicians represent me,they were chosen by the vote of their people and what is worse than any sanction and any ban from competitions is that 83% of that Russian civil population agree with this ill senseless war.
Therefore also players of any sport should be banned so they raise their voice against the actions of their government,so far I have not seen a single Russian athlete raise their voice against such war of violence that is going on from many months.
From where did you got the 83% figure? Is there any reliability? Who did the polling? Anyway, even if that is the case, more than 50% of the American population supported George Bush when he invaded Iraq. The same was the case when Barack Obama decided to bomb Libya. Bill Clinton also had popular support when he bombed the hospitals and schools in Serbia (1999). Why the United States was not expelled from FIFA back then? Why these rules are only applicable for Russia and not for the NATO members?
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