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December 27, 2020, 05:03:01 PM
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I am sorry if you don't understand it. I collect the data, choose the team or person, and place the bet. But I admitted that the professional team or gambler will have large resources, so they can have more valid info than what I can get. Yes, I know that I can't compete with them because my sources are limit to them, but at least, I can gamble for what I want while I enjoy the game that I can watch on tv or from the internet. The important thing is we can enjoy betting on the team that we want with different methods for analysis.

No problem! I understand your point in this case, and many players act this way - they have favorite teams and they follow them. Even taking into account the fact that at a distance they still lose to bookmakers, they get a lot of positive emotions in return, and this game is worth the effort and money.

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December 27, 2020, 06:38:49 PM
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If you can have or collect as much data as possible, you will have more chances to select the right team to bet. Having the data could help you decide how much money you should use to bet, and you can think twice if placing a medium or high amount will be necessary or you should place on small money. It could give us other benefits, such as knowing what strategy we can implement based on the current situations for each team. Besides that, we will know which team has high odds of winning the match.

No matter how much data you collect, you will not be able to compete in the accuracy of determining the odds with bookmakers - whole teams of professionals and even AI work for them. May be you able to understand some events better than them, but at a distance you will not be able to compete with them.
While that is true at the same time it is not as if they are infallible, one of the things that will never chance and that allow good sport bettors to have an edge is the fact that casinos have to adjust their books in their attempts to try to earn the same amount of money from both sides of the bets, this means that a match that could otherwise be perfectly matched in terms of odds needs to be changed and that is when a smart gambler can take full advantage of the odds.

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December 28, 2020, 02:51:44 AM
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No problem! I understand your point in this case, and many players act this way - they have favorite teams and they follow them. Even taking into account the fact that at a distance they still lose to bookmakers, they get a lot of positive emotions in return, and this game is worth the effort and money.

They think that if they lose, they are not alone because many others will also get the same experience. That is positive emotion for me, and I don't regret if I lose, as long as the losing money will not too big. It is difficult to against the bookmakers, and I realize that, and I don't try too hard to win, just like a water flow.

While that is true at the same time it is not as if they are infallible, one of the things that will never chance and that allow good sport bettors to have an edge is the fact that casinos have to adjust their books in their attempts to try to earn the same amount of money from both sides of the bets, this means that a match that could otherwise be perfectly matched in terms of odds needs to be changed and that is when a smart gambler can take full advantage of the odds.

But the bookmakers have a better position than us, so that can make them have a big chance to win. If the bookmakers lose in one game, they will get another winning on the other game, and that happens many times. In the end, if the gamblers don't know how to manage their money, he will only lose it to the bookmakers and the bookmakers will take all of the gambler's money.

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December 28, 2020, 10:11:25 AM
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Then there is also a lot of difference whether you take a match that will start in a few hours, or if you have a match that is going / is live.
If a bet is already live, it is more difficult to compare because the odds can change very quickly.
It really depends on your preference, there are people who love to bet on live betting as they think they are getting some advantage on that, as they are watching the game live, they will see what is really happening in the game and that will give them a good idea on which team to bet or they will bet on the under or over.
Watching live betting the odds of winning will most likely occur as you will focus on watching the match and assessing the quality of the game in terms of the team or other weaknesses and strengths and that will make it easier to make choices.
But there's nothing people expect because things can turn things around when you are in last minute position, it's all just luck and if you watch live or not and do some analysis or whatever, that's no guarantee.
If you were a professional bettor you would think that everything you place on your bet won't win forever and won't lose forever as long as you try and bet, so using any method is not a guarantee because gambling is hard to predict.
Of course it does not guarantee a win, in the first place I didn't say it guarantees a win, but at  least our chances of winning will increase because we are studying the game by watching it, compared to just betting based on what we feel, and that is blindly betting.

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December 28, 2020, 10:20:03 AM
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Then there is also a lot of difference whether you take a match that will start in a few hours, or if you have a match that is going / is live.
If a bet is already live, it is more difficult to compare because the odds can change very quickly.
It really depends on your preference, there are people who love to bet on live betting as they think they are getting some advantage on that, as they are watching the game live, they will see what is really happening in the game and that will give them a good idea on which team to bet or they will bet on the under or over.
Watching live betting the odds of winning will most likely occur as you will focus on watching the match and assessing the quality of the game in terms of the team or other weaknesses and strengths and that will make it easier to make choices.
But there's nothing people expect because things can turn things around when you are in last minute position, it's all just luck and if you watch live or not and do some analysis or whatever, that's no guarantee.
If you were a professional bettor you would think that everything you place on your bet won't win forever and won't lose forever as long as you try and bet, so using any method is not a guarantee because gambling is hard to predict.
Of course it does not guarantee a win, in the first place I didn't say it guarantees a win, but at  least our chances of winning will increase because we are studying the game by watching it, compared to just betting based on what we feel, and that is blindly betting.

Yes, This is true that's why I usually bet during live game to fully assess the team that I bet especially on Basketball. Sometimes I'm confused why my favorite has low odds of winning even though there opponents is weaker than them. Then I just notice that one of there star player is out of the game due to some reason. After that, I always bet during live and always avoid pre-game bet since I'm not always updated on sports news.

The only problem about live betting is the pressure on betting since odds varies every second.

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December 28, 2020, 10:31:40 AM
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Just like majority of Us mate , because Odds are safe bets though Small wins most of the times  than risking in your Instinct  that mostly Give wrong  implication.
and besides Majority of High Odds are the winners .
we cannot change that fact so if you are a real gamblers you must know that this will save your money if you wanted to gamble most of the time.
Small wins are enough than a total loser.
Yes , most of the time that I rely in odds are those who has a majority of it, and fortunately most of my bets wons, so I continue to use this strategy whenever I bet on sports betting it will help me to decide on which side we can bet, but we can do some research first for new team strategy, new roster and new things for the team, but it will depends on you, if you want to follow it or not, but for me it is applicable.
But Of course the safer way to gambling in sportsbetting is that We are familiar in the game,familiar In team members or Solo fighter ,and We are familiar with their opponents ,All of those factor  Will give you another amount of advantage in Betting But like what i always say ,,No assurance of winning ,but above the average percentage of win.
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December 28, 2020, 12:23:08 PM
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Just like majority of Us mate , because Odds are safe bets though Small wins most of the times  than risking in your Instinct  that mostly Give wrong  implication.
and besides Majority of High Odds are the winners .
we cannot change that fact so if you are a real gamblers you must know that this will save your money if you wanted to gamble most of the time.
Small wins are enough than a total loser.
Yes , most of the time that I rely in odds are those who has a majority of it, and fortunately most of my bets wons, so I continue to use this strategy whenever I bet on sports betting it will help me to decide on which side we can bet, but we can do some research first for new team strategy, new roster and new things for the team, but it will depends on you, if you want to follow it or not, but for me it is applicable.
But Of course the safer way to gambling in sportsbetting is that We are familiar in the game,familiar In team members or Solo fighter ,and We are familiar with their opponents ,All of those factor  Will give you another amount of advantage in Betting But like what i always say ,,No assurance of winning ,but above the average percentage of win.
For me I don't recognize it as safe, knowing the game or to be familiar with it before betting is just a basic requirement, if you do not follow that, you'll just lose many not now but in the long run. Knowledge is important and at the same time it's also important that you are enjoying the game and you can only do that if you are familiar of what you are watching.

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December 28, 2020, 01:28:32 PM
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Just like majority of Us mate , because Odds are safe bets though Small wins most of the times  than risking in your Instinct  that mostly Give wrong  implication.
and besides Majority of High Odds are the winners .
we cannot change that fact so if you are a real gamblers you must know that this will save your money if you wanted to gamble most of the time.
Small wins are enough than a total loser.
Yes , most of the time that I rely in odds are those who has a majority of it, and fortunately most of my bets wons, so I continue to use this strategy whenever I bet on sports betting it will help me to decide on which side we can bet, but we can do some research first for new team strategy, new roster and new things for the team, but it will depends on you, if you want to follow it or not, but for me it is applicable.
But Of course the safer way to gambling in sportsbetting is that We are familiar in the game,familiar In team members or Solo fighter ,and We are familiar with their opponents ,All of those factor  Will give you another amount of advantage in Betting But like what i always say ,,No assurance of winning ,but above the average percentage of win.
For me I don't recognize it as safe, knowing the game or to be familiar with it before betting is just a basic requirement, if you do not follow that, you'll just lose many not now but in the long run. Knowledge is important and at the same time it's also important that you are enjoying the game and you can only do that if you are familiar of what you are watching.

But it has some sort of factors that can help us to figure out that kind of sports betting we are opt to join or invest with. This might be classified as the basic factor that everyone should first consider but at the same time those basic knowledge we have in these type of sports betting and at the same a learned skills and strategic plan will going to help us enjoy the game and will also help us make this game favour to our wants and will.

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December 28, 2020, 01:36:53 PM
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No matter how much data you collect, you will not be able to compete in the accuracy of determining the odds with bookmakers - whole teams of professionals and even AI work for them. May be you able to understand some events better than them, but at a distance you will not be able to compete with them.
While that is true at the same time it is not as if they are infallible, one of the things that will never chance and that allow good sport bettors to have an edge is the fact that casinos have to adjust their books in their attempts to try to earn the same amount of money from both sides of the bets, this means that a match that could otherwise be perfectly matched in terms of odds needs to be changed and that is when a smart gambler can take full advantage of the odds.

You mean the situation when the bookmakers adjust their line because the "crowd" is betting too much on one of the outcomes? I've heard about it, but apparently it's a very rare situation. Once I analyzed one of the world football championships (throughout the entire tournament) and I can say that no matter how bad the team performed in the previous 2 matches in the group, the odds from bookmakers for the 3rd match practically did not change.

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Just like majority of Us mate , because Odds are safe bets though Small wins most of the times  than risking in your Instinct  that mostly Give wrong  implication.
and besides Majority of High Odds are the winners .
we cannot change that fact so if you are a real gamblers you must know that this will save your money if you wanted to gamble most of the time.
Small wins are enough than a total loser.
Yes , most of the time that I rely in odds are those who has a majority of it, and fortunately most of my bets wons, so I continue to use this strategy whenever I bet on sports betting it will help me to decide on which side we can bet, but we can do some research first for new team strategy, new roster and new things for the team, but it will depends on you, if you want to follow it or not, but for me it is applicable.
But Of course the safer way to gambling in sportsbetting is that We are familiar in the game,familiar In team members or Solo fighter ,and We are familiar with their opponents ,All of those factor  Will give you another amount of advantage in Betting But like what i always say ,,No assurance of winning ,but above the average percentage of win.
For me I don't recognize it as safe, knowing the game or to be familiar with it before betting is just a basic requirement, if you do not follow that, you'll just lose many not now but in the long run. Knowledge is important and at the same time it's also important that you are enjoying the game and you can only do that if you are familiar of what you are watching.
But as far as i understand ,it is KNOWLEDGE in game is what he implying ,to be  familiar in GAME,TEAM/Players, from both parties is already a knowledge in the system.

and it is not basic instrument ,That is the Main Tool actually , Imagine if you Know what is their capacity ,weaknesses ,special skills and attitude in game ,you can use those Data's to make comparison  and Preview the outcome.

This will also increase your chance of winning . remember in every sports expert opinion is very important.

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December 28, 2020, 01:44:50 PM
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Just like majority of Us mate , because Odds are safe bets though Small wins most of the times  than risking in your Instinct  that mostly Give wrong  implication.
and besides Majority of High Odds are the winners .
we cannot change that fact so if you are a real gamblers you must know that this will save your money if you wanted to gamble most of the time.
Small wins are enough than a total loser.
Yes , most of the time that I rely in odds are those who has a majority of it, and fortunately most of my bets wons, so I continue to use this strategy whenever I bet on sports betting it will help me to decide on which side we can bet, but we can do some research first for new team strategy, new roster and new things for the team, but it will depends on you, if you want to follow it or not, but for me it is applicable.
But Of course the safer way to gambling in sportsbetting is that We are familiar in the game,familiar In team members or Solo fighter ,and We are familiar with their opponents ,All of those factor  Will give you another amount of advantage in Betting But like what i always say ,,No assurance of winning ,but above the average percentage of win.
For me I don't recognize it as safe, knowing the game or to be familiar with it before betting is just a basic requirement, if you do not follow that, you'll just lose many not now but in the long run. Knowledge is important and at the same time it's also important that you are enjoying the game and you can only do that if you are familiar of what you are watching.
But as far as i understand ,it is KNOWLEDGE in game is what he implying ,to be  familiar in GAME,TEAM/Players, from both parties is already a knowledge in the system.

and it is not basic instrument ,That is the Main Tool actually , Imagine if you Know what is their capacity ,weaknesses ,special skills and attitude in game ,you can use those Data's to make comparison  and Preview the outcome.

This will also increase your chance of winning . remember in every sports expert opinion is very important.

We are talking of sports betting here, knowledge of the team is pretty basic requirement, and the most important is knowledge in sports betting because it doesn't mean that if you know the team or the team very well, you can already expect a success in sports betting, believe me, I've been trying to experiment to be consistent until now.

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December 28, 2020, 01:57:57 PM
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As far as sports betting is concerned one needs to understand the game completely. He must be involved with how the teams have played in the last few months and history of performance over the year which gives a good grasp on the team performance. By knowing this we can predict whether the odds are in the favor of the team or not.
If the odds are in the favor of the team then placing a bet on it is the obvious option unless we want to take risk on place bet on the other team with higher returns.
Sometimes luck does play it's role and the team with good odds might lose ending up losing all your bets.

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December 28, 2020, 02:02:01 PM
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But as far as i understand ,it is KNOWLEDGE in game is what he implying ,to be  familiar in GAME,TEAM/Players, from both parties is already a knowledge in the system.

and it is not basic instrument ,That is the Main Tool actually , Imagine if you Know what is their capacity ,weaknesses ,special skills and attitude in game ,you can use those Data's to make comparison  and Preview the outcome.

This will also increase your chance of winning . remember in every sports expert opinion is very important.

We are talking of sports betting here, knowledge of the team is pretty basic requirement, and the most important is knowledge in sports betting because it doesn't mean that if you know the team or the team very well, you can already expect a success in sports betting, believe me, I've been trying to experiment to be consistent until now.
i don't remember mentioning a SUCCESS ,what i've said is "Increasing the Chance to win"  ..

But Where Just sharing thoughts here ,to  at least contribute to those who seeks for Ideas.

Having Yours is good but having all of us is Much better..

Thanks for the heads up..

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December 28, 2020, 02:35:28 PM
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As far as sports betting is concerned one needs to understand the game completely. He must be involved with how the teams have played in the last few months and history of performance over the year which gives a good grasp on the team performance. By knowing this we can predict whether the odds are in the favor of the team or not.
If the odds are in the favor of the team then placing a bet on it is the obvious option unless we want to take risk on place bet on the other team with higher returns.
Everything you said is correct, it needs knowledge and turn that knowledge into skills so you'll achieve your main purpose in gambling.
if it's only for fun, you don't need to take it seriously, but if it's for money, then work for improvement, treat it like a job or business where you can't afford to lose but to be successful as a gambler.

Sometimes luck does play it's role and the team with good odds might lose ending up losing all your bets.
A realistic gambler understands it, luck is not a major factor in gambling, it's the skills.

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I have a couple of friends that like to place sport bets just by watching odds!
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December 28, 2020, 03:30:33 PM
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I have a couple of friends that like to place sport bets just by watching odds!
most of times they don't know absolutely nothing about a team or a specific league but they continue to play in this manner. It's useless says they have always a negative balance and any winnings come just from "luck".
What is really curious to me, a lot of people in real life place bet in the same way...

We have our own way of gambling, some are doing a very simple thing before they put their bet while some give an effort on analyzing the game, what matters is the outcome of the bet, if you are consistently winning even if you just have to look at the odds, then stick with it.

I don't want to judge gamblers in their way of predicting the outcome because I myself is not winning in sports.

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December 28, 2020, 04:18:46 PM
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I have a couple of friends that like to place sport bets just by watching odds!
most of times they don't know absolutely nothing about a team or a specific league but they continue to play in this manner. It's useless says they have always a negative balance and any winnings come just from "luck".
What is really curious to me, a lot of people in real life place bet in the same way...

We have our own way of gambling, some are doing a very simple thing before they put their bet while some give an effort on analyzing the game, what matters is the outcome of the bet, if you are consistently winning even if you just have to look at the odds, then stick with it.

I don't want to judge gamblers in their way of predicting the outcome because I myself is not winning in sports.

Indeed, if you have a winning pattern it's  better to keep enhancing it, there's no accurate strategy that will give you 100% of chance in winning, even you place you money in a low odd bet.

There's still chance of losing when you gamble your money. Some may see advantages with low odds especially those who understand how the game works and what are the possibilities that the one they pick will win the game.

No perfect spice but there's a good pattern if you build good strategy. Learn more about the game and focus.

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I have a couple of friends that like to place sport bets just by watching odds!
most of times they don't know absolutely nothing about a team or a specific league but they continue to play in this manner. It's useless says they have always a negative balance and any winnings come just from "luck".
What is really curious to me, a lot of people in real life place bet in the same way...

many new gamblers rely on odds and even don't check the statistics. maybe they think that bookmaker is always right and small odds will guaratee a certain win. but we know that's not the truth.

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December 28, 2020, 05:10:50 PM
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I have a couple of friends that like to place sport bets just by watching odds!
most of times they don't know absolutely nothing about a team or a specific league but they continue to play in this manner. It's useless says they have always a negative balance and any winnings come just from "luck".
What is really curious to me, a lot of people in real life place bet in the same way...

many new gamblers rely on odds and even don't check the statistics. maybe they think that bookmaker is always right and small odds will guaratee a certain win. but we know that's not the truth.
It seems so, most likely this method only relies on luck without having to check the previous team's game statistics and this method has a very small chance of winning.
they are only betting for fun as opposed to skilled or frequent bettors who will do a good job of statistical analysis or some other way before selecting the team that has a chance of winning.

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December 28, 2020, 05:44:32 PM
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I have a couple of friends that like to place sport bets just by watching odds!
most of times they don't know absolutely nothing about a team or a specific league but they continue to play in this manner. It's useless says they have always a negative balance and any winnings come just from "luck".
What is really curious to me, a lot of people in real life place bet in the same way...

many new gamblers rely on odds and even don't check the statistics. maybe they think that bookmaker is always right and small odds will guaratee a certain win. but we know that's not the truth.

that's true when i started gambling i really thought lower odds has higher chance of winning but that's not the case you really need to study the game itself and the matches for a higher chance of success there's no assurance that odds will give you win.

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