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Author Topic: Do you rely on the odds when placing bets?  (Read 12691 times)
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January 13, 2021, 05:58:28 PM
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Ofcourse. That's probably what most sports bettors failed to do (doing their own research). I guess they think the odds are enough. Or maybe they don't know how to go about it, or think  research won't change anything because "betting is luck-based".
 A bettor who has enough information on teams past/current forms could easily do better than those that only rely on site odds.    I think I'd compare my researched information with site odd and see which is more reliable.
It is very well known that sport betting is one of the few casino games that can be beaten regularly by players, this is difficult of course but if you have a lot of knowledge about a sport it can be done as you will be able to recognize when the odds do not correspond with the reality and win slightly more often than chance and get better odds as well giving you profits in the process, obviously casinos do not like this and if they discover you they will limit your account but thankfully there are thousands of casinos online where people can use their skills and keep profiting from sports bets.

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January 14, 2021, 10:28:10 AM
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I didn't expect much to win that bet, but I thought "Okay, it won't be the end of the world if I lose." But I won, and it feels so good. Smiley

To win that amount with 1.1 odds I should have risked 46k sats, $16+ today, not something I would be okay with losing. And those bets with high probability of winning are tricky: even if you bet on a very strong team, you can always get a draw and lose your bet as a result.

It's definitely correct, there's no easy way to win, betting odds speaks about probability to win, and it does not guarantee that you'll win.

Winning your bet with 4.00 odds is more satisfying that winning bets on odds like 1.10... and you'll not feel good if you lose because you were expecting you will easily win given the odds tells you that there's a very low chance of losing.

That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid when placing my bets, that bad feeling when you lose your bet on a strong team.

There are two disadvantages to this kind of betting:

1. If you win, your win is small compared to the size of your bet;

2. It is very upsetting to lose, when the probability of winning was 80%-90%.

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January 14, 2021, 02:03:05 PM
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Be careful because that prediction will not always work as if one club or team can perform better, it could change the situation from bigger odds to small odds. Maybe you need to search for more info about the team and not only their match because the other player can replace by the other, which can affect the team performance. If the player is on badminton or a game like that, we can search for their record or history to know how good they played before.

Agreed, If you care at all about winning the bets that you placed on a match you have to absolutely know both teams very well and only the history of previous matches between the two teams are not going to be enough for you, unfortunately many gamblers are getting used to betting on a team winning without having much information about the team personally, I know some people that even bet on leagues or sports that they have no experience betting on or even watching which is really not advised to do.
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January 14, 2021, 06:41:31 PM
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This weekend there was a good opportunity for in-game bets with the game Ajax - PSV. PSV came on 0-2 after 21 minutes.

Ajax became much better in the game and almost won it but the game ended at 2-2. Too bad I wasn't online during this match.
What was the odds for that match for you to say that it's a good opportunity that you've missed?

Winning your bet with 4.00 odds is more satisfying that winning bets on odds like 1.10... and you'll not feel good if you lose because you were expecting you will easily win given the odds tells you that there's a very low chance of losing.
I'm more of a sure guy and won't matter if that's only a 1.10 odd but you're right, the higher it is, the more satisfying that you'll get to see your winning. But we can also conclude who's the underdog and unlikely to win.



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January 15, 2021, 11:04:48 PM
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Winning your bet with 4.00 odds is more satisfying that winning bets on odds like 1.10... and you'll not feel good if you lose because you were expecting you will easily win given the odds tells you that there's a very low chance of losing.
I'm more of a sure guy and won't matter if that's only a 1.10 odd but you're right, the higher it is, the more satisfying that you'll get to see your winning. But we can also conclude who's the underdog and unlikely to win.
Honestly, for me the word sure is already out in my vocabulary as a gambler, because based on my experience, there's no such thing as sure even if the odds is lower than 1.10, I'm saying it because I lose many bets with low odds and with considerable amount at stake.

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January 16, 2021, 07:53:22 AM
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When I’m placing bet the odds of the both team matters to me because the odds is in direct proportion to the outcome of the game. The odds of the game also determined the amount in which I’m going to stake in the game. The odds also will make the game more interesting for me to play.

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January 16, 2021, 08:31:07 AM
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Winning your bet with 4.00 odds is more satisfying that winning bets on odds like 1.10... and you'll not feel good if you lose because you were expecting you will easily win given the odds tells you that there's a very low chance of losing.
I'm more of a sure guy and won't matter if that's only a 1.10 odd but you're right, the higher it is, the more satisfying that you'll get to see your winning. But we can also conclude who's the underdog and unlikely to win.
Honestly, for me the word sure is already out in my vocabulary as a gambler, because based on my experience, there's no such thing as sure even if the odds is lower than 1.10, I'm saying it because I lose many bets with low odds and with considerable amount at stake.
You have the point with that.

Also in my experience, even with low odds, it's still not sure. I guess the correct word for that is "higher chance" than being sure. Thanks for elaborating that and a correction as well.



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January 16, 2021, 08:46:40 AM
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When I’m placing bet the odds of the both team matters to me because the odds is in direct proportion to the outcome of the game. The odds of the game also determined the amount in which I’m going to stake in the game. The odds also will make the game more interesting for me to play.

I agree with you, the odds are very important for us to determine on which side to bet. Sometimes it is not really worth it to bet on the winning team if the odds are not really in our favor. For a very small profit it's sometimes not worth it to take the risk. Just like Bayern losing against Holstein Kiel as a clear favourite. Maybe there are more attractive bets available with better odds. Looking at the Odds and the Payouts together is key to make good bets in my opinion.
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January 16, 2021, 04:20:04 PM
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When I’m placing bet the odds of the both team matters to me because the odds is in direct proportion to the outcome of the game. The odds of the game also determined the amount in which I’m going to stake in the game. The odds also will make the game more interesting for me to play.

I agree with you, the odds are very important for us to determine on which side to bet. Sometimes it is not really worth it to bet on the winning team if the odds are not really in our favor. For a very small profit it's sometimes not worth it to take the risk. Just like Bayern losing against Holstein Kiel as a clear favourite. Maybe there are more attractive bets available with better odds. Looking at the Odds and the Payouts together is key to make good bets in my opinion.

Experienced gamblers mostly check that, as they are very curious about the risk that they'll going to take, odd is very important especially when you really understand the game that you are betting with.

You can look for other alternatives if you see that the winning amount is not valuable risking your money, more options gives you capabilities to find the best one with decent offer.

Most of those gamblers who are dealing with research knows how to pick the right odd
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January 16, 2021, 10:59:49 PM
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When I’m placing bet the odds of the both team matters to me because the odds is in direct proportion to the outcome of the game. The odds of the game also determined the amount in which I’m going to stake in the game. The odds also will make the game more interesting for me to play.

I agree with you, the odds are very important for us to determine on which side to bet. Sometimes it is not really worth it to bet on the winning team if the odds are not really in our favor. For a very small profit it's sometimes not worth it to take the risk. Just like Bayern losing against Holstein Kiel as a clear favourite. Maybe there are more attractive bets available with better odds. Looking at the Odds and the Payouts together is key to make good bets in my opinion.

Experienced gamblers mostly check that, as they are very curious about the risk that they'll going to take, odd is very important especially when you really understand the game that you are betting with.

You can look for other alternatives if you see that the winning amount is not valuable risking your money, more options gives you capabilities to find the best one with decent offer.

Most of those gamblers who are dealing with research knows how to pick the right odd
to risk their money, bigger risk bigger profits.
Its just normal.! Experienced or not, we do rely on seeing or checking those odds first before making bets because you can eventually differentiate which one is favorite and which one isnt.

You would really be needing sufficient analysis when choosing up your bets and you cant just fully rely into this kind of indication because not all will really be winners.
Also there are odds which arent really worth for you to risk on.
It doesnt matter though on what kind of analysis you've been making or presumptions basing off on just seeing numbers.

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Its just normal.! Experienced or not, we do rely on seeing or checking those odds first before making bets because you can eventually differentiate which one is favorite and which one isnt.

You would really be needing sufficient analysis when choosing up your bets and you cant just fully rely into this kind of indication because not all will really be winners.
Also there are odds which arent really worth for you to risk on.
It doesnt matter though on what kind of analysis you've been making or presumptions basing off on just seeing numbers.

Most people will choose the higher odds and place their bet. But the professional gambler will search for more info to find another thing that can be their additional info to decide. If they do not get what they want, maybe they will let it go without trying to bet because they doubt the info. The indication can help us decide, but we need more things to analyze and find more information.

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January 18, 2021, 02:11:28 PM
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Winning your bet with 4.00 odds is more satisfying that winning bets on odds like 1.10... and you'll not feel good if you lose because you were expecting you will easily win given the odds tells you that there's a very low chance of losing.
I'm more of a sure guy and won't matter if that's only a 1.10 odd but you're right, the higher it is, the more satisfying that you'll get to see your winning. But we can also conclude who's the underdog and unlikely to win.
Honestly, for me the word sure is already out in my vocabulary as a gambler, because based on my experience, there's no such thing as sure even if the odds is lower than 1.10, I'm saying it because I lose many bets with low odds and with considerable amount at stake.
You have the point with that.

Also in my experience, even with low odds, it's still not sure. I guess the correct word for that is "higher chance" than being sure. Thanks for elaborating that and a correction as well.

All that I said, I don't only read it, I learn it from actual experience, so I can really confirmed myself that not such bet as a sure bet. Even at 1.01 betting odds, it's still not sure thing to win, you need to have at least a lot of experience on low betting odds in order to prove it yourself, I'm glad you learn anyway.

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Winning your bet with 4.00 odds is more satisfying that winning bets on odds like 1.10... and you'll not feel good if you lose because you were expecting you will easily win given the odds tells you that there's a very low chance of losing.
I'm more of a sure guy and won't matter if that's only a 1.10 odd but you're right, the higher it is, the more satisfying that you'll get to see your winning. But we can also conclude who's the underdog and unlikely to win.
Honestly, for me the word sure is already out in my vocabulary as a gambler, because based on my experience, there's no such thing as sure even if the odds is lower than 1.10, I'm saying it because I lose many bets with low odds and with considerable amount at stake.
You have the point with that.

Also in my experience, even with low odds, it's still not sure. I guess the correct word for that is "higher chance" than being sure. Thanks for elaborating that and a correction as well.

All that I said, I don't only read it, I learn it from actual experience, so I can really confirmed myself that not such bet as a sure bet. Even at 1.01 betting odds, it's still not sure thing to win, you need to have at least a lot of experience on low betting odds in order to prove it yourself, I'm glad you learn anyway.

You would learn things with experience and to those things that you had believed in the past and it would really be proven out on actual experience or situation.

1.01 doesn't really mean 100% chance of winning and I do see that even with this odds do still lose and that really indicates that nothing is really a sure win.

We cant really just deny that we do make out some presumptions and analysis with just seeing the odds. Favorite are always in favored to win but not all the times
and you will see that if you do go ahead with your sports betting journey.

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January 18, 2021, 10:15:42 PM
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Be careful because that prediction will not always work as if one club or team can perform better, it could change the situation from bigger odds to small odds. Maybe you need to search for more info about the team and not only their match because the other player can replace by the other, which can affect the team performance. If the player is on badminton or a game like that, we can search for their record or history to know how good they played before.

Agreed, If you care at all about winning the bets that you placed on a match you have to absolutely know both teams very well and only the history of previous matches between the two teams are not going to be enough for you, unfortunately many gamblers are getting used to betting on a team winning without having much information about the team personally, I know some people that even bet on leagues or sports that they have no experience betting on or even watching which is really not advised to do.
If they are doing that for entertainment purposes and they have their gambling habit under control then I do not really see anything wrong with it, however if they are actually expecting to make profits out of those bets then your friends are due a rough awakening as it is known that if you want to become a professional sport bettor you need to know a lot about the sport in which you are betting otherwise you have no chance to beat the house in their own games.

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I agree with you, the odds are very important for us to determine on which side to bet. Sometimes it is not really worth it to bet on the winning team if the odds are not really in our favor. For a very small profit it's sometimes not worth it to take the risk.~
Exactly. I mean, odds are there to help us really decide on which team or player to bet. But, personally, if the team playing is not really my favorite, there's a tendency that I will place my bet on that instead of the opponent regardless of what the odds say. I just tend to be subjective sometimes. Grin

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I agree with you, the odds are very important for us to determine on which side to bet. Sometimes it is not really worth it to bet on the winning team if the odds are not really in our favor. For a very small profit it's sometimes not worth it to take the risk.~
Exactly. I mean, odds are there to help us really decide on which team or player to bet. But, personally, if the team playing is not really my favorite, there's a tendency that I will place my bet on that instead of the opponent regardless of what the odds say. I just tend to be subjective sometimes. Grin

Sometimes that our favorite team of our will drive us to more loses, mostly favorites has lower odds, sometimes it gives 1.50 and lower, that means at a minimum, you need to win 3 games betting on your favorites in order to get more than 100% of your bets, and that is not attractive IMO.

Now, if you are trying to balance the odds like getting 1.85 to 2.00, you need to take the point spread which is also tricky as not all favorites covers the spread, they sometimes keep winning the game but failed to cover the spread.

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January 23, 2021, 11:57:56 PM
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I agree with you, the odds are very important for us to determine on which side to bet. Sometimes it is not really worth it to bet on the winning team if the odds are not really in our favor. For a very small profit it's sometimes not worth it to take the risk.~
Exactly. I mean, odds are there to help us really decide on which team or player to bet. But, personally, if the team playing is not really my favorite, there's a tendency that I will place my bet on that instead of the opponent regardless of what the odds say. I just tend to be subjective sometimes. Grin

remember, not all odds from the bookies are right. there are certain factors that are out of their control. it is also in your best interest if you know very well the sport as well as the players. but yes, in some instances the odds will give you idea about their perception towards that game. and now, it is up to you how to look for those points that matter for the game, that will help in choosing the best odds.

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January 23, 2021, 11:59:21 PM
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remember, not all odds from the bookies are right. there are certain factors that are out of their control. it is also in your best interest if you know very well the sport as well as the players. but yes, in some instances the odds will give you idea about their perception towards that game. and now, it is up to you how to look for those points that matter for the game, that will help in choosing the best odds.

In the long run, it doesn't matter how often bookmakers make mistakes - they offer disadvantageous odds in terms of betting on both outcomes anyway. Therefore, given the randomness of each individual result over a long distance, they will outperform any specialist who understands the game better than them.

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January 24, 2021, 02:48:34 AM
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When I’m placing bet the odds of the both team matters to me because the odds is in direct proportion to the outcome of the game. The odds of the game also determined the amount in which I’m going to stake in the game. The odds also will make the game more interesting for me to play.
The existence of odds does help to see opportunities where you can get profit. The average person, apart from doing analysis based on games, also looks at the odds which are used as a reference for betting on which team and what total bet. this is obviously very influential. but sometimes there are lots of traps at the odds which often change and change when my new game starts

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January 24, 2021, 03:00:34 AM
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When I’m placing bet the odds of the both team matters to me because the odds is in direct proportion to the outcome of the game. The odds of the game also determined the amount in which I’m going to stake in the game. The odds also will make the game more interesting for me to play.
The existence of odds does help to see opportunities where you can get profit. The average person, apart from doing analysis based on games, also looks at the odds which are used as a reference for betting on which team and what total bet. this is obviously very influential. but sometimes there are lots of traps at the odds which often change and change when my new game starts

Exactly right, and bookmakers use that priveledge to trapped those who don't do any analysis. Research helps but sometimes even you
think that everything already in place shit still happens.

Odd may help you to pick good games that you fully understood, many gamblers use a lots of time to find value bets with good odds that accompanied their picks, it's always depends from your own analysis in how you use any advanatages that you take. There are strategy using small odds while riskier one use high odds and take home huge amount of money.

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