josegines
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October 16, 2021, 05:30:12 PM |
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It seems that if we are doing (5), it will end in December(only 2 months), it does not seem to last any longer. But would there be chances that we are doing (3) instead of (5), and thus the top of this bull cycle will be delayed to March-April / 2022? I understand that as you have the count no, but I imagine that there could be possibilities to redo the count. I am thinking that we may be close to a very important moment, nothing less than we could have the new ATH in just 2 months. It is too close!!! Thanks for your explanation! Current estimation is for the PRIMARY[5] bull market to end either by around Christmas 2021 or around Easter 2022, with initial expectations of around 136K or 220K as a top. Your suggestion of (5) actually being a (3) would look like the following chart... https://i.ibb.co/LYmSQSD/BTCUSD.pngSuch an extended count would take the PRIMARY[5] bull market well beyond the Halving in 2024. Historically, there has never been a Halving at all-time highs during a core bull market. Is it possible? Sure. However, best to eliminate the more conservative counts first before jumping ahead. I was referring to this other (3), but I am not an expert on Elliot, I was only thinking about the possibilities that the climb would last until spring. I suppose that a possibility that we have a little more than 2 months of rise, is that the waves that remain, are extended. I suppose that the count that I have put in the image could be confirmed, if after reaching the predicted (5) and correcting, the price again exceeds the level of that predicted (5)
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xxxx123abcxxxx (OP)
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October 16, 2021, 06:42:18 PM |
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I was referring to this other (3), but I am not an expert on Elliot, I was only thinking about the possibilities that the climb would last until spring. I suppose that a possibility that we have a little more than 2 months of rise, is that the waves that remain, are extended. I suppose that the count that I have put in the image could be confirmed, if after reaching the predicted (5) and correcting, the price again exceeds the level of that predicted (5) https://i.imgur.com/RNpPMdP.jpgYour suggestion would look like the following chart... https://i.ibb.co/NpDV6QV/btcusd.pngUnlikely for the following reasons... —It is rare for MINOR 1 wave to be the largest. It would mean MINOR 3 and MINOR 5 would have to be successively smaller since the third wave in a sequence cannot be the shortest. —The proposed MINOR 2 pullback is almost equivalent in magnitude to the INTERMEDIATE(2) pullback. Therefore, the proposed MINOR 2 pullback is better suited to be considered as INTERMEDIATE(4) pullback. The most conservative and simplest counts are considered first until eliminated.
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josegines
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October 16, 2021, 08:45:16 PM |
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Your suggestion would look like the following chart... https://i.ibb.co/NpDV6QV/btcusd.pngUnlikely for the following reasons... —It is rare for MINOR 1 wave to be the largest. It would mean MINOR 3 and MINOR 5 would have to be successively smaller since the third wave in a sequence cannot be the shortest. —The proposed MINOR 2 pullback is almost equivalent in magnitude to the INTERMEDIATE(2) pullback. Therefore, the proposed MINOR 2 pullback is better suited to be considered as INTERMEDIATE(4) pullback. The most conservative and simplest counts are considered first until eliminated. Okay, I had not understood that you were talking about Easter, so it coincides with what I am saying, that right now you see the end of this bullish cycle on Dec/21 or on Easter/22 (April/22) But the count you have drawn ends on Dec/21, if it were delayed it would be because there would be some corrective wave that lasts longer than expected right now. Or maybe because some impulsive wave extended. We will have to see the evolution week by week, to try to clear the doubt of whether the end will be in December or later. Or maybe we won't know when December arrives, but weeks later. If it is true that if in December we see an explosive wave that rises too vertical, it would be a sign of the end.
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xxxx123abcxxxx (OP)
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October 16, 2021, 09:07:57 PM |
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Okay, I had not understood that you were talking about Easter, so it coincides with what I am saying, that right now you see the end of this bullish cycle on Dec/21 or on Easter/22 (April/22)
But the count you have drawn ends on Dec/21, if it were delayed it would be because there would be some corrective wave that lasts longer than expected right now. Or maybe because some impulsive wave extended.
We will have to see the evolution week by week, to try to clear the doubt of whether the end will be in December or later.
Or maybe we won't know when December arrives, but weeks later.
If it is true that if in December we see an explosive wave that rises too vertical, it would be a sign of the end.
The simplest and conservative outlook of this Elliott Wave model suggests an end to the bull market either around 136K or around 220K. Perhaps either around Christmas 2021 or around Easter 2022. This means... —the bull market may end around 136K, around Christmas 2021; or, —the bull market may end around 220K, around Christmas 2021; or, —the bull market may end around 220K, around Easter 2022 or earlier. The chart simply illustrates the 'average' of the aforementioned scenarios. Who knows, some are expecting 500K next year! As and when the waves develop, the projections shall be adjusted.
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Bbirdy
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October 18, 2021, 07:43:56 AM |
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@ josegines,
thank you for your questions,
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@ xxxx123abcxxxx
many thanks for your answers
it is very instructive
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josegines
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October 18, 2021, 09:02:55 AM |
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@ josegines,
thank you for your questions,
and
@ xxxx123abcxxxx
many thanks for your answers
it is very instructive
I have to say that @xxxx123abcxxxx has a lot of patience to answer so many questions. I even asked him long ago what the subsequent bear market would be like, how long and at what price level it could go. It will be good to take it into account in a few months, when it is clear that we have already made the top.
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xxxx123abcxxxx (OP)
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October 18, 2021, 05:26:10 PM |
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I have to say that @xxxx123abcxxxx has a lot of patience to answer so many questions. I even asked him long ago what the subsequent bear market would be like, how long and at what price level it could go. It will be good to take it into account in a few months, when it is clear that we have already made the top.
The bear market declines in Bitcoin since inception have been: -94%, -87%, -85% —hence the average being -89% If say the current bull market ends around $220K to complete CYCLE-I by 2022, then a -89% decline for CYCLE-II ought to end above the 2017 high. Anybody's guess what happens, perhaps Bitcoin ceases to exist? The following may illustrate the popular opinion of a perpetual market...
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the ghabbar
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November 06, 2021, 03:44:14 PM |
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2021 Elliott Wave Speculatively forecasting the price of Bitcoin via subjectively using the Elliott Wave principle. Analysis is conjecture with sporadic fortnightly to monthly updates. Previous thread: 2019 Cryptocurrency (Elliott Wave) Subjective in the general view is still in the speculation stage, meaning that prices are not completely correct, analysis is a prediction made based on previous experience, but many people are starting to understand how to predict correctly, although sometimes predictions are not all correct with what actually happened, according to the graph of what what I see from the right is more stable than the left, maybe by the end of 2021 everything will look good.
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josegines
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December 05, 2021, 05:25:05 AM |
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if so, the MINOR-2 wave MINUTE [iii] is going to be spectacular, I could probably do a x2 or more
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December 07, 2021, 03:15:51 PM |
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if so, the MINOR-2 wave MINUTE [iii] is going to be spectacular, I could probably do a x2 or more from your mouth to god's ears.
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