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January 03, 2021, 03:33:48 PM
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They're looking for a safe way out of the USA crypto police by comparing themselves to bitcoin,, in fact this is very funny because they suddenly use unreasonable excuses.I'm increasingly wondering if true they're using privacy-centered coins or just nonsense with the offers they've been doing?
What is clear, that this is increasingly attractive because the price of dash in the market will change quickly because their move and will definitely affect crypto investors or those who hold their coins.

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January 03, 2021, 04:54:48 PM
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The first step would be removing privat send. It is a oxymoron to have privatsend and claim not to be privacycoin.

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January 03, 2021, 05:07:32 PM
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The first step would be removing privat send. It is a oxymoron to have privatsend and claim not to be privacycoin.

Does Bitcoin need to remove any association with its privacy wallets to be considered not to be privacycoin ?


Source : https://media.dash.org/wp-content/uploads/Dash-PrivateSend-Legal-Position-EN.pdf

If the answer is no, then why should Dash ?

Hell, PrivateSend does not even form a problem in the European Union and there is no indication that US government agencies want to ban Anonymity Enhanced Cryptocurrencies  :



Source : https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/legal-opinion-and-regulatory-classification-for-germany-and-european-union-step-1.50201/#post-223131


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January 03, 2021, 06:50:47 PM
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So, for years Dash team was saying that they are better than Monero and other privacycoins, now they are saying that "their privacy is not better than in Bitcoin"  Grin

How do you feel about that? Do you want to invest in a project that puts compliance with regulators above their own declared principles? Or do you think that this is just a tactical lie to return the lost liquidity and its all okay?
Even though it is a complete U turn on their business plans and portraying themselves as the privacy coin in the past they want to survive with the increased scrutiny by the authorities and it is not a big surprise that the privacy coins will be under attack by the authorities and i was expecting them to force the exchanges to delist them for their survival and now the Dash team want to change their marketing strategy to survive, if not they will be forced to go underground and the price will be affected and team wants to avoid that.

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January 03, 2021, 07:09:21 PM
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I snoozed a little anyone know what happend is it now male or female?

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January 03, 2021, 08:00:54 PM
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Official tweet: https://twitter.com/Dashpay/status/1345093269919854592

So, for years Dash team was saying that they are better than Monero and other privacycoins, now they are saying that "their privacy is not better than in Bitcoin"  Grin

How do you feel about that? Do you want to invest in a project that puts compliance with regulators above their own declared principles? Or do you think that this is just a tactical lie to return the lost liquidity and its all okay?

Maybe DASH doesn't want to be branded as a privacy coin anymore as they are trying more mass adoption through the Social Wallet?

Dash could be a "real crypto" alternative to the Facebook Libra...

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January 05, 2021, 07:35:09 AM
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Dash views having optional privacy for users as a very important offering, not to be discarded lightly.
So they still want to be a privacy coin despite adding more use cases.

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A few of those exchanges that previously stated to delist Dash, came back on that decision, after communication with Dash Core Group :

https://www.coindesk.com/okex-korea-reviewing-decision-to-delist-privacy-coins-zcash-and-dash
Dash still traded on OkeX Korea --> https://okex.co.kr/kr/view/exchange/full?coin=DASH&market=BTC

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/ikg8m9/banking_partners_happy_for_dash_and_other/
Good on Dash then.
  
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Shifting the optional privacy from Dash Core wallets to third party wallets will just create trust and centralization issues. And for what ?
I don't get this. Mixers like Chipmixer are centralized for sure but Bitcoin's decentralized chain isn't affected at all. How about non-custodial and open source coinjoin or privacy wallets?

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Smaller exchanges could still continue to delist Dash by association or because they still perceive Dash to be a privacy-centric coin or because they don't have compliance resources.
I think Bittrex and Abra have the resources.

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US government agencies mislabeling Dash is not helping either.
Any effort from Dash team to communicate with regulators including FATF?

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January 05, 2021, 07:42:50 AM
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What's so bad about claiming to be real privacy coin? Aren't they ashamed of themselves? Some investors invest in dash because of its privacy feature now they denied that fact? Delisting can't hurt privacy coins because all exchanges aren't centralized only, we have Decentralized exchanges too, if Centralized exchanges want to delist every privacy coins they should proceed

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What's so bad about claiming to be real privacy coin? Aren't they ashamed of themselves? Some investors invest in dash because of its privacy feature now they denied that fact? Delisting can't hurt privacy coins because all exchanges aren't centralized only, we have Decentralized exchanges too, if Centralized exchanges want to delist every privacy coins they should proceed

Depending on what is your audience and target market.

There is nothing bad in the real privacy coins, but they are unacceptable in the face of governments, tax institutions, and similar entities.


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January 07, 2021, 08:39:41 PM
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It is better to refuse to buy DASH, it has already been excluded from a couple of exchanges, and I think that soon it will be removed from others, and the price will fall.
Monero is starting to delist, states want to deprive us of anonymous coins   Lips sealed

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It is better to refuse to buy DASH, it has already been excluded from a couple of exchanges, and I think that soon it will be removed from others, and the price will fall.
Monero is starting to delist, states want to deprive us of anonymous coins   Lips sealed

Personally i think people should be allowed to buy the coins they want, both anonymous-focused coins (Monero / Zcash) and not-anonymous coins (Bitcoin / Dash).
Recommending people not to buy certain coins, seems highly presumptive and subjective.

Dash is currently traded well over 100 exchanges (with some pretty big exchanges among those), Dash will survive this and will grow stronger from this.
Dash even has some strong partnerships with exchanges and services that utilize its InstantSend & ChainLocks technology : https://www.dash.org/fastpass/





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How do you feel about that? Do you want to invest in a project that puts compliance with regulators above their own declared principles? Or do you think that this is just a tactical lie to return the lost liquidity and its all okay?

I am not a DASH investor. But I was interested in the project for a while and it didn't occur to me that Dash would be a privacy coin like Monero. It may be that there have been some who like to see Dash as a privacy coin, but they are the same ones who consider Bitcoin anonymous. The statement is also understandable: Dash wants to go mainstream with Dashpay as a payment option. And for this, the supervisory authorities must also be convinced. This is much easier if you are not a "privacy coin".

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Dash is not completly privacy coin and Dash developer also on going to build Dashpay which everyone can put his name on blockchain and transferred Dash peer to peer. I hope delisting dash is not happen, we need dash for micro payment and dash with its instasend will be adopted by people in this world.

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For alk these days, I used to know Dash as a privacy coin and one of the competitor of Monero although I never have used none of them. How Dash team now have changed their opinion?
Dash has both private tx option and public tx option or only private tx like Monero?

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For alk these days, I used to know Dash as a privacy coin and one of the competitor of Monero although I never have used none of them. How Dash team now have changed their opinion?
Dash has both private tx option and public tx option or only private tx like Monero?

Dash, just like Bitcoin has public transactions by default
Dash, just like Bitcoin has an open, public blockchain where transactions, amounts, senders and receivers are fully visible
Dash, just like Bitcoin offers optional privacy on its transactions through a form of CoinJoin mixing*
Dash is a fork of Bitcoin

Dash is as much a privacy coin as Bitcoin
If you think Bitcoin is not a privacy coin, then that counts for Dash as well

* https://media.dash.org/wp-content/uploads/Dash-PrivateSend-Legal-Position-EN.pdf


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So Dash core group claims that Dash is pseudonymous? I consider it as an attempt to avoid Dash delisting only.

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January 08, 2021, 03:56:00 AM
Last edit: January 08, 2021, 04:20:59 AM by qwizzie
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So Dash core group claims that Dash is pseudonymous? I consider it as an attempt to avoid Dash delisting only.

There is no claiming here, there are just facts.
Some people just seems to not understand Dash optional privacy feature or seems to not understand Dash blockchain. Or both.
Hopefully they understand it now.

Facts :

Dash, just like Bitcoin has public transactions by default (pseudonymous transactions)
Dash, just like Bitcoin has an open, public blockchain where transactions, amounts, senders and receivers are fully visible (pseudonymous)
Dash, just like Bitcoin offers optional privacy on its transactions, through a form of CoinJoin mixing (thereby creating additional privacy)
Dash is a fork of Bitcoin

What is pseudonymous : https://bitcoinmagazine.com/what-is-bitcoin/is-bitcoin-anonymous#
What is CoinJoin / CoinJoin mixing : https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/coinjoin.asp

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January 08, 2021, 09:44:09 AM
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This type of situation shows us that we must be on the alert with massive claims from projects that insist on proving that they follow a segment and in this case privacy. In my opinion, this may affect Dash's future in relation to market confidence or even claim some kind of future failure.

The way is to wait for the news to pass.
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January 08, 2021, 09:55:13 AM
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Dash, just like Bitcoin

So you claim Dash is useless or unaware that Dash is a copy of Litecoin (itself a copy) and Dash does has private sent inbuild.
Is lying and misinform a part-time hobby or full time job for you?

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January 08, 2021, 12:29:29 PM
Last edit: January 08, 2021, 12:48:45 PM by qwizzie
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Dash, just like Bitcoin

So you claim Dash is useless or unaware that Dash is a copy of Litecoin (itself a copy)


Source : https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/683sn5/is_dash_a_bitcoin_fork_is_the_source_code/

Dash is a fork of Bitcoin. A simple Dash github check would have told you that.
Links :

https://github.com/dashpay/dash

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This branch is 8238 commits ahead, 17370 commits behind bitcoin:master.

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/v0-11-0-darkcoin-core-release.3601/



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