Have you ever proven fairness of games?

[Ryker1]

Not a lot of people do that because either time constraints, the boiling excitement to gamble, or both are not allowing them, myself included. And to be honest, this term has been thrown here and there that it lost its flavor already, so people most likely aren't even caring about if a game is provably fair in the first place because they don't have any way of proving it to the people anyway, so people stop caring.

Well, I think not all people will do the same as this because for me, verifying provably fair is very important and there are too many articles that teach you how to verify and how to determine if the gambling site truly has this provably fair. The fairness of the game is proven, you can verify this through determining the has that given. Technically speaking, proven fairness is to verify first before using because we can't deny the fact that they will perhaps be cheating because there are only a few of us who only know how to verify provably fair and the rest are don't care about it.

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[dimonstration]

Well, it depends on the popularity and good-will of the company for me ngl. I never really bet huge funds to actually care if the casino is rigging me in the long term. I do verify bets when I lose right on the first roll or let's say losing at 1.01x twice, I just do it to verify and to quench my ego and anger that says I can't lose for games like slots, it heavily depends on the provider. Games from providers like netent or evolution gaming are so popular so I don't really verify my games I play there. 

As long as the casino or games already built their name and trusted reputation there's no need to verify the fairness. Actually even in some casino except those new casinos what I wanted is a good support team who have something like live chat support or reply fast in inquiries same with fast withdrawal process. Fairness can be proven if we actually win or not just experience loss and loss consecutively.

[TheUltraElite]

Have you ever proven fairness of a game yourself or know someone who has or do you simply trust a casino claiming their games are provably fair?

Why would you ever trust a casino without testing their provably fair method?

Not sure how long you have been in this niche of gambling with cryptocurrencies, but the term trust here does not make sense without being able to be verified. Thats why most casinos that have been running for long have a transparent method to use a third part verifier to verify your bets.

It is very simple and if ever you find a casino which lacks such a verification method that you can use or straight up does not mention anything about it, you can be sure that the site is a scam and immediately report it here in this forum in the "Scam Accusations" section for public reference.

[shoreno]

Well, it depends on the popularity and good-will of the company for me ngl. I never really bet huge funds to actually care if the casino is rigging me in the long term. I do verify bets when I lose right on the first roll or let's say losing at 1.01x twice, I just do it to verify and to quench my ego and anger that says I can't lose for games like slots, it heavily depends on the provider. Games from providers like netent or evolution gaming are so popular so I don't really verify my games I play there.  

As long as the casino or games already built their name and trusted reputation there's no need to verify the fairness. Actually even in some casino except those new casinos what I wanted is a good support team who have something like live chat support or reply fast in inquiries same with fast withdrawal process. Fairness can be proven if we actually win or not just experience loss and loss consecutively.

why not ? i see gamblers playing on famous casinos and still verify their bets and some of those gamblers have a complain about the sites fairness . you can do verify them if you are worried and name of the site shouldnt lured us to not check their fairness because we wont know if they are betraying us .

the features that you list and like are also essentials on a gambling site but before them provably fair should come first because this is more important .

[Pmalek]

Why should I prove the fairness of games? I trust the casino will not cheat other members or me. As long as you play gambling on a reputable casino with a good reputation, you don't have to prove fairness.

Why would you trust someone or something blindly if you have a chance to check the claims yourself no matter how trustworthy the casino is or seems to be?
Can trust not be abused?
Can people not change for the worse?
Can the goal of the casino not be to build trust early on, only to misuse that trust later when the customers get comfortable?

All these scenarios are possible. It's another discussion how often they happen. We trust Electrum with our bitcoin, but it's still recommended (even by their main developer) to always check and verify the signatures.     

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Why would you trust someone or something blindly if you have a chance to check the claims yourself no matter how trustworthy the casino is or seems to be?
Can trust not be abused?
Can people not change for the worse?
Can the goal of the casino not be to build trust early on, only to misuse that trust later when the customers get comfortable?
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This is right, there is no perfect system.  Their platform may be running smoothly at first but it may also have an issue in case there is a new update and it has have bug/s to say.  There are and still are verifying bets even if we play in a reputable and trusted casino.  That is why it is placed and there is such a feature to use, but it is not necessary to do it all or every time we place bets.  Just proof that their provable games are fair.

[Oasisman]

Nobody knows and It's not actually an easy thing to find out.
However, the most possible thing to do to prove a certain website offers a "provably fair" gambling experience is to try them out. I'm pretty sure after many tries you'll be able to make a presumption base on your experience.
But, gambling casino's do dirty tricks in a most unnoticeable way to their client no matter how trustworthy these casino's are. So, my answer to this is "No", nobody has ever proven a hundred percent that a casino applied the provably fair, or whatever kind of "fair" terms in gambling.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

Yes. I have proven fairness in some gambling sites because I have the same experience of winning and losing in playing different gambling games, like playing in a real casino. They do not take advantage of your profits when you experience winning a considerable amount of profit. Some use a provably fair tool to ensure the algorithm and cryptographic hash if it is not cheating and verifying each result to players in an online casino.

[CODE200]

Yes. I have proven fairness in some gambling sites because I have the same experience of winning and losing in playing different gambling games, like playing in a real casino. They do not take advantage of your profits when you experience winning a considerable amount of profit. Some use a provably fair tool to ensure the algorithm and cryptographic hash if it is not cheating and verifying each result to players in an online casino.

Problem is, there is a tendency for other platforms to make such scheme because it is money we are talking about and many people are interested into it, or should I say all of us? Going back, there are stories spreading;some are transfered through tounge and some are on the Internet. The idea that "house always win" somewhat makes the claim valid. Instances of such is due to greed. Even if the house won't use such scheme, it will remain victorious over its players due to the quantity of players. We'll, I hope cases regarding to this concern will someday be  cleared in order for more players to enjoy this industry.

[johhnyUA]

Have you ever proven fairness of a game yourself or know someone who has or do you simply trust a casino claiming their games are provably fair?

It's very easy to prove it by yourself, i think there was few examples here before this post. Personally, when i played in satoshidice.com few first throws i checked through "provably fair" hash method. This is useful and good habit for any gambler. But there is no reason to check every bet. T

[Oilacris]

Have you ever proven fairness of a game yourself or know someone who has or do you simply trust a casino claiming their games are provably fair?

It's very easy to prove it by yourself, i think there was few examples here before this post. Personally, when i played in satoshidice.com few first throws i checked through "provably fair" hash method. This is useful and good habit for any gambler. But there is no reason to check every bet. T

There's no need for some checking when you are dealing already with some popular gambling site which you can automatically presume that they are fair ones because they had been trusted already by the masses.

They wont really be getting such recognition if their provably fair do have some issues because there are really gamblers who do really verify out bets and do elaborate if there are some little bit hint
of issues or not right unto their bets.

So this kind of behavior would already be presuming out that you are dealing with a fair site.

[dothebeats]

Yes, through what the site directly offers and through third-party verifiers as well. For most new platforms, I'm weary of using their provably-fair calculator since they can do some things on the front-end and I will never know, that's why BTCGosu's verifier is a handy tool if I want to ensure that the site isn't playing any games with me in terms of my sessions. I think everyone playing on online gambling platforms should know a thing or two on how to verify their games for fairness. True that most platforms wouldn't do something sinister for a couple of dollars but there are still some that goes under the radar, profiting off of clueless individuals on how provably-fair works.

[Shasha80]

Because the gambling sites I use are mostly popular, I don't feel the need to prove the fairness of the gambling sites I use. Usually someone else
has done it, I just need to read the reviews gambling site that I will use. Usually the reviews provided by members on this forum are very reliable.
But there is nothing wrong if you want to verify the fairness, to make it more convincing that the gambling sites used actually have a fair system.

[Lanatsa]

Because the gambling sites I use are mostly popular, I don't feel the need to prove the fairness of the gambling sites I use. Usually someone else
has done it, I just need to read the reviews gambling site that I will use. Usually the reviews provided by members on this forum are very reliable.
But there is nothing wrong if you want to verify the fairness, to make it more convincing that the gambling sites used actually have a fair system.

to be honest I have never proven that because if you want to do that you have to have a lot of capital to do a gamble that takes up to 100 rounds or more, so I only see some people who have tried to prove the fairness of the game and many people are disappointed because it is proven sometimes it's not fair.

If its not fair then those players will really be complaining and letting other people know about that issue and this is where accusations do being mold up.

I agree on other point of view above that  you wont really be making some investigation or research if you do just simply stick with popular sites.

For sure their players had already proved out that their games were fair and square.

[coin-investor]

Hi!

This is a question that has been on my mind for quite some time. You can see the term 'provably fair' used all over the place in the Bitcoin gambling market but in this case I'm referring to in-house games in casinos which offer the option to prove fairness of the game to the player.

Have you ever proven fairness of a game yourself or know someone who has or do you simply trust a casino claiming their games are provably fair?

I do check the fairness when I started playing the game and randomly after each round and so far all the gambling sites I'm playing are showing provably fair, all gambling sites that are claiming to be provably fair should show a way for their players a link or a page to check if they are implementing provably fair.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I check the fairness of all the gambling sites where I play regularly. I didn't used to when I first started but then I had some big losses and needed to prove to myself that I wasn't being cheated. There are some third party verifiers that make it really easy and convenient to validate the fairness of your bets so there is really no excuse not to do this. Even if it is not every single bet, you should at least pick a few at random every now and then.

[peter0425]

The votes proves the truth , and that is YES fairness is indeed available in crypto casinos , as long as the Site is Legit and there are plenty of examples here .

I am proud that Mine is one of those ,same as Roobet , DuelBits and Cryptogames.net .

Those are the sites that i use to play.

[YOSHIE]

There are two factors that can prove that casino gambling is fair or not in the game.
1. You must choose an official casino.
2. You should avoid casinos that are not genuine/official.

In this case one is to prove that they are fair in the game, between a fake gambling site and a genuine gambling site you really need to know this is a solution/fact to avoid injustice in betting.

In this case you can conclude that is fair or not.
By the way you bet and you lose streak never get a chance of winning it can also be a sign that they are cheating unfairly in the game, fake casino sites are so dangerous they don't think about positive things for their members, only concerned with their own profits.
The bottom line: real and fake casino gambling sites can determine whether they are fair or not, all that you can find out after you bet on their site.
Thorough, careful choosing casino gambling is important.

[kotajikikox]

I have been wearing for long this signature of gambling site that has Been Proven to be Fair and Worth trusting .
 the fastest growing Gambling site today , with wagering more than million dollars every  day that also proven in their Event in Games and Round here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5307968.0

That assures Us in which the amount being wagered in that site proven how Fait they are to be Visited and played by Many gamblers.

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But we must Check the site on our own for the best outcome.

that's why BTCGosu's verifier is a handy tool if I want to ensure that the site isn't playing any games with me in terms of my sessions.

Indeed , have used this sometime.

[traderethereum]

But we must Check the site on our own for the best outcome.

If we do not want to get a scam or worst thing, we can select the recommended and trusty site to gamble, so we do not have to check the site.
That will help us minimize our time to check the fairness of games because the site will not cheat the member site.
But we can check the site that we used to gamble if we want to make sure that the site is not doing something suspicious.
If we already found one or more gambling sites that are fair, we do not have to move on to the other website because that can make us feel uncomfortable playing gambling.