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January 12, 2021, 12:35:19 PM
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A fan of boxing here and well-knowledge especially on history but the funny part is, I'm not familiar with mandatory defense terms lol.

So who is picking up opponents here? The challenger or the boxing body? At some point, we see boxers challenging others to catch with the rankings.

During negotiations, means no other name involved in the process?

It's the boxing body that order the champion to fight the number 1 in their ranking, in this case, it's IBF who ordered the fight to happen and if Lopez will not heed IBF's call, then this sanctioning body will strip Lopez of it's championship belt. All boxing body do this as promoters of the fight will have to pay the sanctioning fee  Grin. This is what i have understand on that mandatory defense, correct me if i'm wrong.

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January 13, 2021, 01:08:13 PM
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This should proved a difficult fight for Lopez, Australian boxer's are mostly rugged he might be cheated and get robbed by his throne. Just like what they did to Pacquiao. Perhaps if he can show his dominance in early rounds or atleast score a knockdown, this should be in the bag for him. The record of the challenger is quite impressive in my opinion.
I think Pacman is different from this one I think so we should not compare these two, as far as I know this is from IBF and just like the other said, if they will not consider this fight knowingly that this is what IBF wants them to do, it could be their loss , they will have a problem soon , and I think they don't want it to happen so either they will fight or they will pay, it just sad that there will be no other choice for this one, once IBF is the one who requested, this is only what I know.

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January 13, 2021, 01:16:32 PM
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This should proved a difficult fight for Lopez, Australian boxer's are mostly rugged he might be cheated and get robbed by his throne. Just like what they did to Pacquiao. Perhaps if he can show his dominance in early rounds or atleast score a knockdown, this should be in the bag for him. The record of the challenger is quite impressive in my opinion.
I think Pacman is different from this one I think so we should not compare these two, as far as I know this is from IBF and just like the other said, if they will not consider this fight knowingly that this is what IBF wants them to do, it could be their loss , they will have a problem soon , and I think they don't want it to happen so either they will fight or they will pay, it just sad that there will be no other choice for this one, once IBF is the one who requested, this is only what I know.
For the record, Pacman did not loss, he got robbed, and if we really believe that being rugged in the ring can intimidate a champion, then we probably have to look how Terrence Crawford made him look like an amateur, here's the highlights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzMAAifFkcU

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January 13, 2021, 01:29:02 PM
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This should proved a difficult fight for Lopez, Australian boxer's are mostly rugged he might be cheated and get robbed by his throne. Just like what they did to Pacquiao. Perhaps if he can show his dominance in early rounds or atleast score a knockdown, this should be in the bag for him. The record of the challenger is quite impressive in my opinion.
I think Pacman is different from this one I think so we should not compare these two, as far as I know this is from IBF and just like the other said, if they will not consider this fight knowingly that this is what IBF wants them to do, it could be their loss , they will have a problem soon , and I think they don't want it to happen so either they will fight or they will pay, it just sad that there will be no other choice for this one, once IBF is the one who requested, this is only what I know.
For the record, Pacman did not loss, he got robbed, and if we really believe that being rugged in the ring can intimidate a champion, then we probably have to look how Terrence Crawford made him look like an amateur, here's the highlights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzMAAifFkcU

We have to move on guys lol, Pacman loses that fight to Horn and no amount of whining will change the decision of the judges, those things happen a lot on boxing.

Tagging Australian boxers as rugged, i think is not appropriate as there are many boxers opposite the style of Horn. Tim Tzsyu for example is a fine boxer and not rugged like Horn so it is the fighter's style not the nationality and i believe that Kambosos will play fair.

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January 13, 2021, 01:31:32 PM
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We all know that Lopez is the undisputed champion and is so confident in his matches and can fight anyone as long as they can pay him with a reasonable amount that he want.

I'll obviously bet on Lopez when this fight happens inside the ring because I know that he will dominate Kambosos as early as he can. I'm not underestimating Kambosos, I'm not a hater of that fighter but I'm just confident on betting Lopez as I tracked all of his matches and I saw how passionate he is.

But still, we all know that a lot of possibilities can happen inside the ring so make a research and think twice before betting.
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January 13, 2021, 02:01:53 PM
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This should proved a difficult fight for Lopez, Australian boxer's are mostly rugged he might be cheated and get robbed by his throne. Just like what they did to Pacquiao. Perhaps if he can show his dominance in early rounds or atleast score a knockdown, this should be in the bag for him. The record of the challenger is quite impressive in my opinion.
I think Pacman is different from this one I think so we should not compare these two, as far as I know this is from IBF and just like the other said, if they will not consider this fight knowingly that this is what IBF wants them to do, it could be their loss , they will have a problem soon , and I think they don't want it to happen so either they will fight or they will pay, it just sad that there will be no other choice for this one, once IBF is the one who requested, this is only what I know.
For the record, Pacman did not loss, he got robbed, and if we really believe that being rugged in the ring can intimidate a champion, then we probably have to look how Terrence Crawford made him look like an amateur, here's the highlights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzMAAifFkcU

We have to move on guys lol, Pacman loses that fight to Horn and no amount of whining will change the decision of the judges, those things happen a lot on boxing.

Tagging Australian boxers as rugged, i think is not appropriate as there are many boxers opposite the style of Horn. Tim Tzsyu for example is a fine boxer and not rugged like Horn so it is the fighter's style not the nationality and i believe that Kambosos will play fair.

You have a point, let's move on and focus on this specific fight. I saw the highlights of Kambosos and he doesn't seem like Horn, he has a good boxing skill but probably way below Lopez that's why we can understand that he is the underdog in the fight but he has a chance though.

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January 13, 2021, 02:57:07 PM
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We all know that Lopez is the undisputed champion and is so confident in his matches and can fight anyone as long as they can pay him with a reasonable amount that he want.

I'll obviously bet on Lopez when this fight happens inside the ring because I know that he will dominate Kambosos as early as he can. I'm not underestimating Kambosos, I'm not a hater of that fighter but I'm just confident on betting Lopez as I tracked all of his matches and I saw how passionate he is.

But still, we all know that a lot of possibilities can happen inside the ring so make a research and think twice before betting.

Like you, I think Teofimo Lopez will beat George Cambosos. But if it happens that Cambososo wins, this victory will be a big boost for him in the boxing world. I think this fight will be very interesting, because both fighters have no defeats in their career and they will fight very hard.

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January 13, 2021, 10:27:00 PM
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It is a long preparation for Lopez, yet it is Kambosos might be waiting for this moment as well. I can't tell that Lopez is really good enough as he was holding the title but Kambosos as being undefeated, it gonna be a tough boxer. This gonna be a tough fight for Lopez and to defend his title but I'm still believing he can win this fight. I don't want to compare Kambosos to the Australian fighter that Manny had to lose, yet another generation it might be worse in strategy and Lopez must deal with him, otherwise, loose ends will come.
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January 13, 2021, 10:36:20 PM
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It is a long preparation for Lopez, yet it is Kambosos might be waiting for this moment as well. I can't tell that Lopez is really good enough as he was holding the title but Kambosos as being undefeated, it gonna be a tough boxer. This gonna be a tough fight for Lopez and to defend his title but I'm still believing he can win this fight. I don't want to compare Kambosos to the Australian fighter that Manny had to lose, yet another generation it might be worse in strategy and Lopez must deal with him, otherwise, loose ends will come.

Lopez will deal with him without a problem, Kambosos hasn't beat big names in boxing, Lopez already had and he has proven he has rise in terms of level of boxing, this one, might be easy for him but I know Lopez won't take Kambosos for granted, he'll work hard still.

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January 13, 2021, 10:56:30 PM
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It is a long preparation for Lopez, yet it is Kambosos might be waiting for this moment as well. I can't tell that Lopez is really good enough as he was holding the title but Kambosos as being undefeated, it gonna be a tough boxer. This gonna be a tough fight for Lopez and to defend his title but I'm still believing he can win this fight. I don't want to compare Kambosos to the Australian fighter that Manny had to lose, yet another generation it might be worse in strategy and Lopez must deal with him, otherwise, loose ends will come.

Lopez will deal with him without a problem, Kambosos hasn't beat big names in boxing, Lopez already had and he has proven he has rise in terms of level of boxing, this one, might be easy for him but I know Lopez won't take Kambosos for granted, he'll work hard still.

He should not take this for granted as he is fighting in a different soil. Just hoping that he will not experience what Pacquiao has experienced in the Australian soil when he fought with Horn. So many months to prepare, let's hope that it will not be postpone just because of covid results or something. Maybe, if they already set the date, that's when we start saying that the fight will gonna push thru.
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January 14, 2021, 02:29:12 AM
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It is a long preparation for Lopez, yet it is Kambosos might be waiting for this moment as well. I can't tell that Lopez is really good enough as he was holding the title but Kambosos as being undefeated, it gonna be a tough boxer. This gonna be a tough fight for Lopez and to defend his title but I'm still believing he can win this fight. I don't want to compare Kambosos to the Australian fighter that Manny had to lose, yet another generation it might be worse in strategy and Lopez must deal with him, otherwise, loose ends will come.

Lopez will deal with him without a problem, Kambosos hasn't beat big names in boxing, Lopez already had and he has proven he has rise in terms of level of boxing, this one, might be easy for him but I know Lopez won't take Kambosos for granted, he'll work hard still.

He should not take this for granted as he is fighting in a different soil. Just hoping that he will not experience what Pacquiao has experienced in the Australian soil when he fought with Horn. So many months to prepare, let's hope that it will not be postpone just because of covid results or something. Maybe, if they already set the date, that's when we start saying that the fight will gonna push thru.

Agree, Lopez is the champion but he will go to Australia to fight their local hero there, so it's a guarantee that Australians wanted him to fight but their hearts are with their fellow country man. Lopez and his team just need to check who are the judges going to be so that the Pacquaio robbery won't be seen again in Australian soil.

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January 14, 2021, 03:02:51 AM
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A fan of boxing here and well-knowledge especially on history but the funny part is, I'm not familiar with mandatory defense terms lol.

So who is picking up opponents here? The challenger or the boxing body? At some point, we see boxers challenging others to catch with the rankings.

During negotiations, means no other name involved in the process?

It's the boxing body that order the champion to fight the number 1 in their ranking, in this case, it's IBF who ordered the fight to happen and if Lopez will not heed IBF's call, then this sanctioning body will strip Lopez of it's championship belt. All boxing body do this as promoters of the fight will have to pay the sanctioning fee  Grin. This is what i have understand on that mandatory defense, correct me if i'm wrong.

Yes, that's exactly how it works for mandatory fighters. It's the governing body who ordered this kind of mandatory fight to happen, it's either the fighter will obliged or get strip by the belt if they don't want to. Or if the champion doesn't want to fight the mandatory, then they will have to pay step aside money to the body or the mandatory boxer.

And that's how those boxing politics really gets on the way to see the fights we all wanted to see.

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January 14, 2021, 09:25:42 AM
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^^ It will be hostile as it gets, unless you are John Riel Casimero who have travelled around the globe and used against hostile boxing environment, as far as getting the crown from the home town boxer,  Grin.

But I'm sure Lopez and his father knows this, they know what happen to Horn vs Pacquiao, and won't simply allow that to happen and for sure he will be going for an early knock out. And probably this is the reason why they are willing to take the chances because they know that Kambosos is no threat to Teofimo as far as boxing skills goes.

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January 14, 2021, 12:12:04 PM
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So many months to prepare, let's hope that it will not be postpone just because of covid results or something. Maybe, if they already set the date, that's when we start saying that the fight will gonna push thru.
I'm not sure as well if the fight will be pushed thru after hearing Lopez statement.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/1/11/22224446/teofimo-lopez-wants-devin-haney-next-not-george-kambosos-boxing-news-2021

I don't think that both parties are cleared already and I don't think that both fighters wanted to face each other or choosing another opponent.
Anyway, let's wait for another update. But for sure that Lopez must have to defend his title this year after a long time of rest.
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January 14, 2021, 01:09:14 PM
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It was just lately that Lopez had beaten the great Vasyl Lomachenko. That was probably the hardest fight of Lopez's career. So I think that has sufficiently prepared him to meet any opponent in the future.

I am for Lopez in this fight. Kambosos is a lot easier opponent than Loma. Although undefeated, Kambosos has yet to leave a footprint on the boxing ring. This is for me an easy Lopez fight but the hardest battle Kambosos has to face. It helps that he is going to take this big battle in his home country but I doubt this will help much.
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January 14, 2021, 10:40:37 PM
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It was just lately that Lopez had beaten the great Vasyl Lomachenko. That was probably the hardest fight of Lopez's career. So I think that has sufficiently prepared him to meet any opponent in the future.
We all witnessed that big event and we were thinking Lopez has no chance against LOMA, in fact we saw the poll voting in a thread here before and almost everyone is on LOMA and we were wrong.

I am for Lopez in this fight. Kambosos is a lot easier opponent than Loma. Although undefeated, Kambosos has yet to leave a footprint on the boxing ring. This is for me an easy Lopez fight but the hardest battle Kambosos has to face. It helps that he is going to take this big battle in his home country but I doubt this will help much.
Same here, the odds itself says Kambosos needs some miracle to win, so I'm not betting for that Miracle, I just stick to the proven fighter, young and hungry and that is Lopez.

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January 15, 2021, 12:16:42 AM
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I don't know if Lopez just wants to take easy fights like this now that he is a champion, I just read one report that he is demanding $10 million to fight Haney, it's like saying that he doesn't want to fight tough guys in his division because it's not possible in the current condition, if he is the undisputed champion he should negotiate for a just deal just to fight Haney.

EDDIE HEARN REJECTS TEOFIMO LOPEZ JR. DEMANDS FOR $10 MILLION DEVIN HANEY FIGHT

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January 15, 2021, 12:58:42 AM
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So definitely we are going to see Lopez at least fight once this year against his mandatory. And this is Lopez's response.

Teofimo Lopez: Great Opportunity To Fight Kambosos In Australia; Gotta Pay Up If They Want The King



He claims himself the king and undisputed but with so many great talents in his division and nearby division I don't think he has legitimate claim to that, he needs to beat all of them to claim the title undisputed and king, he needs to prove himself worthy of the title and the money, he just beat Lomachenko, and this is not enough.
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January 15, 2021, 01:03:38 AM
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I don't know if Lopez just wants to take easy fights like this now that he is a champion, I just read one report that he is demanding $10 million to fight Haney, it's like saying that he doesn't want to fight tough guys in his division because it's not possible in the current condition, if he is the undisputed champion he should negotiate for a just deal just to fight Haney.

EDDIE HEARN REJECTS TEOFIMO LOPEZ JR. DEMANDS FOR $10 MILLION DEVIN HANEY FIGHT

LOL, it's early to demand that huge payday, yes, he beat the great Loma, but it doesn't mean that he can command $10 million a fight, it's getting too much in his mind that it can back fire on him because he is too focus on making money fighting. Manny Pacquiao take the hard route before earning $10 mil or higher every fight.

Lopez still needs to proved himself and winning in spectacular fashion before he can command that huge pay. And we are still in the pandemic, he needs to understand that, big money can't be raised that easy.

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January 15, 2021, 04:59:52 AM
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LOL, it's early to demand that huge payday, yes, he beat the great Loma, but it doesn't mean that he can command $10 million a fight, it's getting too much in his mind that it can back fire on him because he is too focus on making money fighting. Manny Pacquiao take the hard route before earning $10 mil or higher every fight.

Lopez still needs to proved himself and winning in spectacular fashion before he can command that huge pay. And we are still in the pandemic, he needs to understand that, big money can't be raised that easy.

He can demand whatever he wants if he knocked Lomachecnko out, but for me, it's a close fight and Loma wants a rematch, if he asking $10 million because he beats Loma, what more if he beats Davis or Garcia, he will be asking for the moon, he should beat more great opponents, the best fighter should fight and beat the best fighters if he wants to have good value, he only beat Loma.

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