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January 30, 2021, 12:08:13 AM |
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Rich have too much !!' Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor
Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor Time for revolution !!!
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January 30, 2021, 01:19:08 AM |
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If there are laws that give all the wealth to the poor, then eventually there will be no more wealthy people. Then, how will the poor survive?
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People don't need money, protests or violence. They need information.
Knowledge which allows them to put current events into perspective. So they need not rely on billionaire owned media, and billionaire funded experts to explain things.
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January 30, 2021, 01:52:35 AM |
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Even if you make a complete financial reset, it will not take a month before inequality arises once again. In other words, it is futile. In the human world, there will always be some who will turn out rich and some who will turn out poor.
From where I am living, there is a specific national agency which is tasked to take away extra land from the rich landowners and give them to poor farmers who don't have lands to till. Fast forward to 10-20 years when that free land will mature into private properties of the farmers to which they can do anything. Majority of these pieces of land will be sold. In the end, these farmers or their children will once again become landless farmers. What will the government do next? Confiscate some more land to distribute to them? It is going to be a never-ending cycle.
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January 30, 2021, 03:06:16 AM |
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If the rich make money and still have to distribute it to the poor, then who will be rich, just wait for others to give the money.
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January 30, 2021, 03:45:02 AM |
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Rich have too much !!' Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor
Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor Time for revolution !!!
Impossible, if you will just give the poor money that has been not used by the rich then probably it will be unfair. Why? simply because the rich are the ones who make work with it and just because they don't have money, you will give them? Absolutely NO. In the real world there are protagonists and antagonists also there are rich and poor to balance the world. Let them work in order to gain money, not just by begging in the streets and etc.
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January 30, 2021, 04:07:40 AM |
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The rich do have too much. More than they will ever need. In a way though, they are also the custodians of that wealth. It takes a lot of ingenuity, courage and continuous work to become and stay wealthy. The problem is not so much with inequality but with the fact that a few 100 people at the top now have the ability to set agendas for future, manipulate public sentiment as well as monitor individual progress. Technology as well as money has enabled it. Now is that a good thing or a bad thing is not easy to decide.
Just take a small example of this forum as a sort of society. At the top are the likes of @Theymos, CM campaign etc. CM is the central banker while Theymos is like the Government. DT members are your lower level politicians. CM campaign members are the rich businessmen who have worked hard to get here and earn a lot setting an example for the other hard working people of this BCT society. You also have the criminals, the police and the downright lazy-ass bounty hunters who take power and pride in numbers rather than virtue.
Imagine what would happen if Theymos were to one day decide that all of these were equal. All major campaigns shall distribute all their earning to every single individual AND none of the DT1 members will have the power to tag or flag someone. (coz we are all equal, right?)
I think it will be pure anarchy and mobocracy. Those who think that they deserve better than others will organize the mobs to red tag the better members. (has happened) The hardworking group will silently fall to the sides judging the thing to be beyond redemption. There will be a few like @suchmoon (or would have been Lauda) fighting till the end but they won't be able to enforce anything without some sort of leverage over the members of this society. The leverage being the ability to tag, the trust system and good contributions leading to stepping up the wealth pyramid.
You see, Political power and wealth are leverages for the society to keep functioning. Remove them and it'll all come crashing down. Much to the temporary glee of the lazy and entitled members of society who tend to fervently believe they deserve the best and those who are better off, are so only because of their luck or some other factor.
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January 30, 2021, 05:19:56 AM |
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This is not a good law.
I know that you are just talking about it so you could help those that really need it. The flaw in your proposition is that most of the poor people are not even trying to make a way so that they could be successful one day. If you will just give the poor the money of the rich people, don't you think that it is just unfair and people would just rely on that help?
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January 30, 2021, 05:31:08 AM |
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This is not a good law.
I know that you are just talking about it so you could help those that really need it. The flaw in your proposition is that most of the poor people are not even trying to make a way so that they could be successful one day. If you will just give the poor the money of the rich people, don't you think that it is just unfair and people would just rely on that help?
Exactly, They won't even try to work anymore as they will know they will get money from someone who is working way harder than them. Eventually, a major population will decide to follow this and at last, there will be no rich left or There will be riots as Why a person who has worked hard will give his asset to someone who is not even trying to move his ass.
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January 30, 2021, 05:43:41 AM |
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These are beautiful ideas, but they are dreamy. Unfortunately, there can be no such law in any country or time. You can review the history of all countries. You will not find such a law. This law will not exist in the time of the prophets, but in the time of these governments they will take more and more taxes from you even if You were poor, on the contrary, in a corrupt country like mine, they take more taxes from the poor than the rich because of corruption.
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January 30, 2021, 06:44:50 AM |
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It honestly isn't enough tbh, even if you wanted to distribute the wealth of the rich. In the end, knowledge of what to do with that wealth, together with wealth itself, would idealistically be the best idea to take, but it's just isn't gonna happen. Most people even if you gave them a million would one way or another squander it somehow without even letting themselves benefit from it to the fullest. In the end, equality isn't just going to happen. Equality is a positive idea yes, but it honestly would not bring any positive results to it, but rather more like negative vibes. Positive A and Positive B can be equal, yes, but the same could be said with Negative A and Negative B right?
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January 30, 2021, 06:53:04 AM |
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These are beautiful ideas, but they are dreamy. Unfortunately, there can be no such law in any country or time. You can review the history of all countries. You will not find such a law. This law will not exist in the time of the prophets, but in the time of these governments they will take more and more taxes from you even if You were poor, on the contrary, in a corrupt country like mine, they take more taxes from the poor than the rich because of corruption.
Rich people within a corrupt government would build their connection to officials, that's why they take more advantage with respect to taxations. Poor people tend to suffer for such a long time unless there's a change of government system, but it's really hard to do when the new leader has no political will. Cryptocurrency is the best alternative in order to protect the money of every citizen living in a desired country, without worrying about corruption because it's decentralized.
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January 30, 2021, 06:58:19 AM |
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I'm trying to understand what you are saying but it is hard for me to do it. Luckily after a few minutes I understand it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Anyway, governments will not create a law that is against the rich people. Its pure stupidity if they will do it. These rich people are big part of the economy. No country in the world has a law like this. You want a revolution?? Do it yourself ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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January 30, 2021, 07:06:48 AM |
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The problem is not distribution of wealth, but fair opportunity. Some people remain poor it's because it's either they are too lazy to let themselves grow and seek for opportunities, or there is a lack of opportunity. Some people were able to become rich because they are capable of seeking other opportunities such as going to college, finding new jobs and opportunities, and adding skills for self-development. The poor remain poor because there is poor educational system, lack of job opportunities and even knowledge on how to keep their wealth.
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January 30, 2021, 07:41:26 AM |
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Rich have too much !!'
Well, they worked for it and managed to get it. How about you stop thinking about them and start focusing on yourself. Need laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and given to poor
Lol, that would be the stupidest law that will ever exist. This will just encourage the poor not to work. Would you want the same if you were rich? Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor Time for revolution !!!
So you want government to tax the rich more and give it to the poor? How is that going to create a balance? It would just create a hate between the rich and the poor. The poor will start depending more on the rich (which in a way is always bad). You are thinking about yourself only. Not the others.
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January 30, 2021, 08:35:49 AM |
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Now I've seen it all, member of bitcointalk (and I guess Bitcoin supporter) asking for more government control over people's property...
@OP Have you ever read any history books? It's like we don't have enough examples in the past how redistribution of wealth ended up, and people risked their lives (and still do) to escape from such "fair" societies. Some parts of highly developed countries (see eastern part of Germany that is still behind) still feel the consequences of those ideas.
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January 30, 2021, 09:02:52 AM |
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Rich have too much !!' Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor
Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor Time for revolution !!!
This is very difficult to do. Sure you could increase the tax rate for the rich, but they might just leave the country and move to Switzerland or some small island with no tax rates. As long as there is not international solution, rich people can just play around the tax laws. It would be hard to just take away their money.
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January 30, 2021, 09:09:27 AM |
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That's funny, isn't the whole point of people working hard day and night is to hoard the wealth? Imagine if your money could be taken that easily are you still willing to work your ass off? the day when such laws (distributing rich money to poor) is the day when everyone become lazy and there's gonna be no development in technology. Those rich people become rich for reason and if they get it from working hard I don't see any problem. Taxing is enough.
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January 30, 2021, 09:39:42 AM |
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Well, you see, I think instead of taxing the rich and then using those funds for government use, we should make it obligatory for the riches to give charities and be responsible for running some free hospitals and NGOs. The tax that gets collected from the rich are used by politicians for their own benefit, and we live in this system where the rich always becomes richer and poor becomes poorer without any limit. There should be major change in economical system to change that.
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January 30, 2021, 10:20:52 AM |
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instead of forcefully taking the rich money and feed it to the poor, it's better for government to tax the unusually rich maybe a bit higher and then use it to fund education cost for the poor. That solution will prevent from the uneducated poor people from wasting money for something unnecessary because that's always the case when some people get free money and then using it to buy booze. The money should be well used for increasing opportunity of jobs for the poor by that you can reduce economic gap otherwise it's only temporarily helps.
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