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Wonder if they just have a bunch of cheap chromebooks that they use to keep everything separated.
It can be done easily with each user having his own browser (Chrome, FFox, Edge, Brave, Opera, ...) on the same machine or, for clearer difference and avoiding surprises, with separate virtual machines installed for each. That part is the least problem imho. (However, I'm still shocked about these findings, since we don't talk here about the usual shitposters). You read my mind. A virtual machine with different profiles is quite convenient to understand in which machine which account. Well, if we take into account the experience and attentiveness, then one Firefox with 5-10 profiles is enough. Here all the relish lies in the fact that he did an excellent job in his job.
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I know gentlemand IRL and he always said he only came on to keep the sign campaign commitment up. He was never that bothered about the WO, or even the campaign in the end - he actually said to me 'I don't know why they bother keeping me on it'. He let it lapse, and given his lack of enthusiasm I am certain he would not have bothered with another account. So, suppose all you like, but sorry, nah.
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Eh, I average 75 posts on a good week and it's not unusual to see me at 60 posts per week. And there are some people here who can do even more than 75 (I read in his services thread for example that @Ratimov can do over 100 posts a week). See Top posters on Bitcointalk in the past 7 days: only a few people post more than 100 posts per week. Then again, I can't know who uses multiple accounts.
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Just one PC running with several different browsers would be enough with each using a freebie VPN if necessary. 9+ individual devices such as laptops or PCs would be difficult to house and maintain though not impossible for somebody determined. It seems like he hid himself very well and posted in a way to not expose himself but thankfully in the end he got caught out but made a lot of money out of the Chipmixer signature campaign by cheating them and maybe from several other current campaigns with more connected accounts that have not been exposed yet. So far 9 connected accounts have been exposed. If these guys all used the same device for posting then I'd imagine one of them would've posted something using the wrong account and get busted much earlier.
Wonder if they just have a bunch of cheap chromebooks that they use to keep everything separated.
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It seems that @figmentofmyass, not only cheated on the @ChipMixer campaign, they were also involved in selling accounts. Because:@nutildah, he has burned all the alt accounts, we can be sure that there are no other Alt accounts in the future that can be sold or rigged.There are Five more Alt accounts that are owned by:@figmentofmyass, they use the same Twitter account to make a living on this forum. Twitter @BCgamer01 is used by: @illinest and @HarHarHar9965.Connect:1. HarHarHar9965Hi and thank you primedice!!! BTC- 1PNNDcjJ9kvR3fWdB3woQgLPDvLE7P59Q5 primedice- 09be597a82 twitter- BCgamer01 https://archive.is/Pp6a2https://archive.is/wip/aPfBq
And other Twitter accounts: @ChikunArise, also used by: @romani245, @Marbit and @AceWallen.Connect:2. Marbit3. AceWallenhttps://archive.is/wip/9w2UIPost by: MarbitTwitter Username: @ChikunArise BTC Address: 1CmQgS6TYzXh8inEGsrPA8VbqMyBaeCPjv Notes: Thanks a lot!
https://archive.is/wip/O61yPPost by: AceWallenhttps://archive.is/wip/43FNA
And in my opinion, the main account @figmentofmyass has not been used since 2017 and there is already a red sign (sale).Twitter @CryptoG99 is used by: @manchester93, @HarHarHar9965 you @Argwai96.Connect:4. Argwai96https://archive.is/wip/VmZCZPost by: HarHarHar9965https://archive.is/wip/NLDtMPost by: Argwai96Twitter Username: @CryptoG99 BTC Address: 1FXpH6NjGMP595ZAaRq8pRPSMbotqyY6L3 Notes: Thanks a lot!
https://archive.is/wip/uog8AThis is proof of account sale by: @Argwai96. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=131421
Really unexpected, if you look again at the Twitter used by: @ HarHarHar9965 is also used by: @Gimmelfarb, really ironic.Connect:5. GimmelfarbPost by: HarHarHar9965Twitter Username: @WPMason1 BTC Address: 1DjoC18ADsYqjBerDRpxvyqwkYo4jotLQv Notes: Thanks a lot!
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According to latest Yoshie research we may even have the case of ban evasion here because HarHarHar9965 was banned and archived in 9/28/2019, and I think people will find more accounts connections. Credits should also be given to Timelord2067 who first found some connection with his accounts back in 2017 related to some piratcoin pump and dump: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17520054#msg17520054What we learned from all of this: Don't trust, verify
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Excellent investigative efforts. I think there will be more accounts that will be shown to be connected too. It might be possible that he has been cheating signature campaigns other than Chipmixer and this set back is going to hurt his pockets temporarily but he will be focusing on using his other accounts and maybe is going to purchase or use sleeper accounts to start all over again.
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when I saw this list the first thing I thought was to run to see what the position of @figmentofmyass was and he is in the position 747 but if we count all his accounts, the guy could do more than 100 posts a week. this guy is legend Eh, I average 75 posts on a good week and it's not unusual to see me at 60 posts per week. And there are some people here who can do even more than 75 (I read in his services thread for example that @Ratimov can do over 100 posts a week). two years ago i was able to do up to 60 post per week ... i think if my memory is not failing i still haven't managed to do 70 a week since i'm here at bitcointalk. currently I can't post 40 post a week.
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From the time I signed up to the forum until now, if I take all my posts and divide them between the weeks I have just over 61 posts a week but in some weeks I know I made zero or very little posts so no doubt I must have hit well over 80 posts in weeks. I am not talking about the quality of the content I posted (or lack of), just the numbers involved when I saw this list the first thing I thought was to run to see what the position of @figmentofmyass was and he is in the position 747 but if we count all his accounts, the guy could do more than 100 posts a week. this guy is legend Eh, I average 75 posts on a good week and it's not unusual to see me at 60 posts per week. And there are some people here who can do even more than 75 (I read in his services thread for example that @Ratimov can do over 100 posts a week). two years ago i was able to do up to 60 post per week ... i think if my memory is not failing i still haven't managed to do 70 a week since i'm here at bitcointalk. currently I can't post 40 post a week.
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He broke the rules of the cm campaign and has done some untrustworthy shit including entering multiple alts in contests..
But.. Do you think that cm didn’t get the quality advertising they paid for because of this? I think they still probably did, and it wouldn’t be a problem other than their specific rule to not allow alt accounts.. He is obviously a high quality poster to have achieved what he has..
I think 7 red tags might be a bit heavy but it’s whatever..
Do you guys hope he stops posting on all of his accounts and goes away forever, or do you think he is still a somewhat valuable member of the community even though he gamed the system to make more coin?
Would an admission and apology from him help any? Where do you think he really stands now?
I personally don’t think bending the rules of a signature campaign is all that big of a deal.. I think entering multiple alts in a free contest is much more “cheating” than breaking a sig campaign rule.. In fact I’m not even sure “cheating” the campaign is the correct word to use if he did in fact create all of that quality content and therefore quality advertising which probably had zero effect on the value of advertising he was paid to provide..
I’m failing to see any financial damage done to cm or anyone over the campaign part.. My problem lies more in the contests..
Also wonder if mods knew this by IP the entire time and kept their mouths shut..
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Also wonder if mods knew this by IP the entire time and kept their mouths shut.. Only theymos and Cyrus have access to IP logs, not the moderators. I would also be very surprised if it turned out they were arbitrarily looking up user's IP logs just for the fun of it without some prior suspicion or indication.
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Do you guys hope he stops posting on all of his accounts and goes away forever, or do you think he is still a somewhat valuable member of the community even though he gamed the system to make more coin?
Would an admission and apology from him help any? Where do you think he really stands now?
There is nothing to prevent him from posting just like many users (including yourself) post without getting paid. But I think it's naive to expect that someone who made sockpuppeting into a full time job would stick around after losing the job. It's not really about an apology - I don't think that would change anything. As for CM getting their money's worth etc... perhaps so but he essentially scammed other CM candidates who got rejected because someone was hogging three spots, which is harder to quantify as a monetary loss but a shitty thing to do nonetheless. As you can see there is no trust flag in this situation even though a contract was violated so this is all more than fair I think. Edit: grammar.
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Do you guys hope he stops posting on all of his accounts and goes away forever, or do you think he is still a somewhat valuable member of the community even though he gamed the system to make more coin?
Would an admission and apology from him help any? Where do you think he really stands now? That's entirely up to him. Forum rules allow everything he did, but he betrayed the community. The community can't stop him from posting. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't post anything at all anymore. Only theymos and Cyrus have access to IP logs, not the moderators. I would also be very surprised if it turned out they were arbitrarily looking up user's IP logs just for the fun of it without some prior suspicion or indication. The Cryptios people have IP-access too.
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I personally don’t think bending the rules of a signature campaign is all that big of a deal..
It's a bit more than a "bend", don't you think? It looks like a compound fracture to me: Rules: ... 5. Enrolling alts will result in both of your accounts removed without payment.
I think entering multiple alts in a free contest is much more “cheating” than breaking a sig campaign rule.. In fact I’m not even sure “cheating” the campaign is the correct word to use if he did in fact create all of that quality content and therefore quality advertising which probably had zero effect on the value of advertising he was paid to provide..
I’m failing to see any financial damage done to cm or anyone over the campaign part..
Of course its cheating. He enrolled alts. I don't understand the point of arguing against this concept except for the sake of intellectual exercise; nor do I see a benefit in making assumptions about DarkStar's job, as he has more experience in the occupation than any of us. But to each their own. And great job @YOSHIE, I'm looking into it right now. It looks like ban evasion indeed. To be continued...
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Really unexpected, if you look again at the Twitter used by: @ HarHarHar9965 is also used by: @Gimmelfarb, really ironic.Connect:5. GimmelfarbPost by: HarHarHar9965Twitter Username: @WPMason1 BTC Address: 1DjoC18ADsYqjBerDRpxvyqwkYo4jotLQv Notes: Thanks a lot!
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The 1DjoC18... address is part of a wallet connected in this Bitcoin Giveaway transaction to the following addresses: 1DZqmAG3kjeEj84raMoDnDPxL3bP7spRU1 - WillyBTC ( proof) 1vc8KaBa8mAuoaiJXt9QVY9mg8PucJKmj - scarsbergholden ( proof) 1Db1gfA5c2YqRfAxi2wBQnXWmPWYcvfgAy - Gimmelfarb ( proof) 1CmrVNmxLKbbuk1vBsvikh32Ew4pergo6N - JerryCurlzzz ( proof) 1Hcn4Amw47xP1Y3Wno6CH8cU2GCM5BtD3V - Habeler876 ( proof) 131a7tKMqKZmAdnsVKVxzjLvNgWSScAiXC - exchange withdrawal address 14BUFCCNifu6FmhFydauU47oBvm8WaqUXn - exchange withdrawal address 132zvKqMn3Fy45ddDyhFb8SjksDPvvUyiQ - InwardContour ( proof) (still active) 1DZqmAG3kjeEj84raMoDnDPxL3bP7spRU1 - WillyBTC ( proof) He has different Twitter handles for each account. Could be a treasure trove of new alt connections. While only 1 of the alts is still active, and it could very well be a sold account, this farm spreads geometrically, making me think it is/was being coordinated by a group of people instead of just one. Maybe it passed through different hands over the years, from one farm master to the next. If it's only one guy, he's been really busy for the past 7-8 years.
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I don't understand the point of arguing against this concept except for the sake of intellectual exercise; nor do I see a benefit in making assumptions about DarkStar's job, as he has more experience in the occupation than any of us. But to each their own.
I was directly asked for my opinion on this thread by another DT1 member, so I gave it.. Just stated my thought process on the situation.. Me and DS are fine.. BTW @DS I’ve been out of town for work for the last 5 weeks straight or so and haven’t gotten around to any of that stuff we were talking about yet.. Sorry..
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I was directly asked for my opinion on this thread by another DT1 member, so I gave it..
So your opinion is that breaking the rules isn't really breaking the rules so long as you perceive ChipMixer still benefits from the poster wearing their signature? Otherwise, I don't understand what it is you are saying. He clearly broke a rule, and you're saying it's not "cheating." Why do you want to give this person a pass?
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HarHarHar9965 was participating in trust farming via fake trades in 2015. He used poeEDgar to sell accounts. If memory serves me correctly, I had bought and sold scarsbergholden in 2014 or '15.
But.. Do you think that cm didn’t get the quality advertising they paid for because of this? I think they still probably did, and it wouldn’t be a problem other than their specific rule to not allow alt accounts.. He is obviously a high quality poster to have achieved what he has..
I have made similar arguments in the past. As long as they are not talking to eachother, CM received advertising for xx posts, and paid for xx posts. The post quality was good enough that he was accepted into the campaign over other applicants, and was not removed when other applicants applied. I would see the 50 post limit as a means to control the budget. I would be curious if DS would be open to allowing someone in the CM campaign to apply for one of the open spots with the account he is already participating with, so that he could potentailly be paid for 100 posts/week as opposed to 50 posts per week.
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I was directly asked for my opinion on this thread by another DT1 member, so I gave it..
So your opinion is that breaking the rules isn't really breaking the rules so long as you perceive ChipMixer still benefits from the poster wearing their signature? Otherwise, I don't understand what it is you are saying. He clearly broke a rule, and you're saying it's not "cheating." Why do you want to give this person a pass? What do you mean give him a pass? The dude just lost probably the biggest group of valuable accounts and income stream at once I have ever seen, lol.. I just think it’s morally worse to have ripped off the giveaways than to have worked chipmixer so hard.. It’s just more sensational because it’s chipmixer...
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I was directly asked for my opinion on this thread by another DT1 member, so I gave it..
So your opinion is that breaking the rules isn't really breaking the rules so long as you perceive ChipMixer still benefits from the poster wearing their signature? Otherwise, I don't understand what it is you are saying. He clearly broke a rule, and you're saying it's not "cheating." Why do you want to give this person a pass? What do you mean give him a pass? It was you that said this: I personally don’t think bending the rules of a signature campaign is all that big of a deal.. ... I’m failing to see any financial damage done to cm or anyone over the campaign part..
It seems like you're trying to trivialize what he did and justify it to yourself as being OK because in your mind he was still adding value to the ChipMixer campaign. I just have to wonder what evidence you are basing that assumption on.
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