[ANN] ✰ WhaleMixer.com ✰ Mixer That Dispense Freshly Mined Coins

[mocacinno]

Yeah, it looks like that this ''system'' is actually some dude on computer that is sending coins manually to customers.

That would explain the random mixing time.

I had a similar suspicion in the past, but i might have worded it a bit to subtile

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Eventough i've seen clients of you claim to have waited far longer (so your statement is partially true), the time seems to be random... If it's in order to increase the privacy, or because you're manually creating transactions, or because you're waiting for dips in the mempool so you can pay lower transaction fees and keep more money to yourself... i simply cannot tell
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[whalemixer1]

Tried to PM you , its disabled , kindly PM me , i have enable my PM

The reason emails were not asnwered could be due to non-PGP messages , I am not sure , that could be the reason , I am just in the marketing team.
Unmixed amount will be sent back to the address that you sent the funds from.
If a mix fails , the system will not process the mix and if any contact made , the mix will also be reversed to ensure highest level of security as we dont want any link between sender and the person tried communicating with us via email or PM especially with non-PGP format

Kindly check and update me or PM me

I sent you a PM.

I can prove my sender adress with receiver adress (mixer adress) with screenshot directly from my electrum wallet. I can also make a videoproof if you wish.
I also can proof that I didnt received anything.

I dont understand how a mix can fail, if there is no step you can do wrong.
For me its a mystery.
I used alot of mixers, never saw issues like that ever before.

We have refunded you back, This error was truly ours and we have rectified it, we sincerely apologise for the mistake.
we take this mistake as our learning as we have actually refunded the wrong person.

cryptoenthusiast777444 we have wrongly refunded you , would you be kind enough to refund us back the said fund to the address you received it from . your kind assistance would be much appreciated

and Tamagotchikiller would you confirm you have received your refund this time

[Tamagotchikiller]

I can confirm that I received the full refund just around 10 minutes ago. Thank you.

But one or two things I have to say.
The Letter of Guarantee on other mixers I was always able to download before the mixing and also on another mixer right after the mixing (and also before).
I never saw before that one could delete logs manually. I think it is enough to just clear that logs will be deleted automated if the mixing progress was successfull.

One more very important "Bug":
If you type in the wallet adress on the mixing page with percentage and click on start mixing an new window/tab will open where you will see where to send the coins to (and where it will be send after the mixing and so on) and also WhalePass and WhaleCode.
So far so good.
But if you click on refresh on that page, the adress where to send the coins to and also whale pass and whale code will change.
This shouldn't happen ever! Because if you don't realize that you will send the coins to an adress which doesn't stand in combination with the filled form right before clicking on "start mixing", the coins will get lost if you refresh and send, because the automated system won't know what to to with the received coins.
Correct me if I'm wrong with that.
Or if the page lags, has temporary server problems (on your side) or the internet connection (on one or the other side) is lost and you have no choice except to refresh the page to show up again then the data (mixer receiver adress, WhalePass, WhaleCode) will also change.
I see this as a big problem.

And also an option to download the letter of guarantee right after clicking on "Start Mixing" would save you alot of trouble.

[LoyceV]

Random receiving time is what makes us different as there is no evidence of sending funds and receiving funds making this mixing very powerful

A random mixing time is fine, but you should let the customer know how long it's going to take. With an automated system, that shouldn't be a problem.

That would really help as we have to pay our workers and the error has caused a negative cash flow , we are legitimate mixer and we dont scam to get profits, we only make 1-3% and this error has set us back deeply.

For a site that claims to have $42 million in fresh coins, this shouldn't be a problem, right?

[dkbit98]

A random mixing time is fine, but you should let the customer know how long it's going to take. With an automated system, that shouldn't be a problem.

It must be state of the art system so advanced that even operator don't know this time, because it uses advanced AI hybrid algorithm

That would really help as we have to pay our workers and the error has caused a negative cash flow , we are legitimate mixer and we dont scam to get profits, we only make 1-3% and this error has set us back deeply.

You are a joke mixer, and if you have millions of fake-fresh coins you have nothing deep to worry about, so please tell us who made a mistake, computer system or some guy behind a screen?

[whalemixer1]

I can confirm that I received the full refund just around 10 minutes ago. Thank you.

But one or two things I have to say.
The Letter of Guarantee on other mixers I was always able to download before the mixing and also on another mixer right after the mixing (and also before).
I never saw before that one could delete logs manually. I think it is enough to just clear that logs will be deleted automated if the mixing progress was successfull.

One more very important "Bug":
If you type in the wallet adress on the mixing page with percentage and click on start mixing an new window/tab will open where you will see where to send the coins to (and where it will be send after the mixing and so on) and also WhalePass and WhaleCode.
So far so good.
But if you click on refresh on that page, the adress where to send the coins to and also whale pass and whale code will change.
This shouldn't happen ever! Because if you don't realize that you will send the coins to an adress which doesn't stand in combination with the filled form right before clicking on "start mixing", the coins will get lost if you refresh and send, because the automated system won't know what to to with the received coins.
Correct me if I'm wrong with that.
Or if the page lags, has temporary server problems (on your side) or the internet connection (on one or the other side) is lost and you have no choice except to refresh the page to show up again then the data (mixer receiver adress, WhalePass, WhaleCode) will also change.
I see this as a big problem.

And also an option to download the letter of guarantee right after clicking on "Start Mixing" would save you alot of trouble.

We are sorry for the delay in refund, but glad all went well.

for your question, even if you refresh the page , you will get a new address with new whale code and receiving address,
but all the address will work for 24 hours then after it will auto delete , so no issue on that. The system will treat it as a new transaction and will process which ever address that receive the funds accordingly.

The reason we don't issue guarantee letter to download is because we do not want any trace because that piece of evidence can be used against you even if you delete it. its recoverable if you do a hardisk deep scan . another reason is , i am a user of mixer as well in the past, i really avoid downloading anything to my computer, what if its a virus set up by the FBI ? i am so paranoid if i have to download a guarantee letter , i dont mind viewing it online but not downloading it .

We had this in mind when executing whalemixer.

[whalemixer1]

Random receiving time is what makes us different as there is no evidence of sending funds and receiving funds making this mixing very powerful

A random mixing time is fine, but you should let the customer know how long it's going to take. With an automated system, that shouldn't be a problem.

That would really help as we have to pay our workers and the error has caused a negative cash flow , we are legitimate mixer and we dont scam to get profits, we only make 1-3% and this error has set us back deeply.

For a site that claims to have $42 million in fresh coins, this shouldn't be a problem, right?

we have that in reserve by our clients that we are able to use in mixing , not for us to use and or have a lost on

The available coin for mixing means that we are able to use this much from our clients account to do the mixing, that doesnt mean we own it

[whalemixer1]

A random mixing time is fine, but you should let the customer know how long it's going to take. With an automated system, that shouldn't be a problem.

It must be state of the art system so advanced that even operator don't know this time, because it uses advanced AI hybrid algorithm

That would really help as we have to pay our workers and the error has caused a negative cash flow , we are legitimate mixer and we dont scam to get profits, we only make 1-3% and this error has set us back deeply.

You are a joke mixer, and if you have millions of fake-fresh coins you have nothing deep to worry about, so please tell us who made a mistake, computer system or some guy behind a screen?

If you do a mixing and set as 1 hour from now for example, database has to store this info,  then if the database is breached , FEDS can link the funds sent and received with this one hour delay,
i find that very not secured.

We do manual time mixing , its not automated, no link between received funds or received funds and the receive value also is random . in court, you can actually escape because no evidence of mixing, no timing, no exact value, no trace between old and new funds. and no dangerous downloadable gurantee letter which can contain codes, or recoverable in your harddisk even if deleted using deep scan. we are trying our best to make a change in mixing.

we dont do advanced AI hybrid algorithm , we just do it manual at times we like making it safer with no traceable timing logs

[whalemixer1]

We have solved all our claims

There was only one client had an issue and it has been solve

appreciate if all could remove the negative trust.

We have never scammed any clients and our mixing is considered very safe.

We are operating for almost a year and we have seen really huge amount , we are happy with the 1-3% commission rather than a one time quick exit
we dont hold coins like a exchange service to go on a billion dollar exit scam, the max we hold funds is between 5mins-12 hours and thats no where close to a billion USD at any one time for us to shut down, we prefer doing many transactions as 1-3% adds up to a very good margin and we dont pay tax to China

[whalemixer1]

we are planning to increasing our mixing fee from 1-3% to 2-4% due to overwhelming demand

this will reduce our clients as we are able to serve our smaller number of clients better without raising much flags

kindly stop recommending new clients. we are happy serving our old clients ,

we appreciate clients that genuinely interested in protecting their privacy and not illegal activities , we dont wanna raise flags or get in trouble with high profile criminals

ransomware operators are encouraged to use our services for legal privacy enhancement reasons , you are very welcomed to use our services
 

[mocacinno]

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The reason we don't issue guarantee letter to download is because we do not want any trace because that piece of evidence can be used against you even if you delete it. its recoverable if you do a hardisk deep scan . another reason is , i am a user of mixer as well in the past, i really avoid downloading anything to my computer, what if its a virus set up by the FBI ? i am so paranoid if i have to download a guarantee letter , i dont mind viewing it online but not downloading it .
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But by not issuing a letter of guarantee, you do not give your clients the OPTION of protecting themselves against you. You take away their opportunity to make valid claims in case you mess up again. If you would provide a letter of guarantee, it's up to your clients wether or not they want to download it to protect themselfs from you, or if they don't want to download it because they don't trust you enough to download anything from your site (or because they don't want any evidence, eventough any 3 letter agency that got their hands on the letter of guarantee would also have their hands on both the sending and receiving wallet, so your clients would be caught with or without a letter of guarantee)...

By the way: if you link to a letter of guarantee instead of automatically downloading it, people could look at it online and just copy it directly, it would be just as safe as browsing any other part of your website....

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we have that in reserve by our clients that we are able to use in mixing , not for us to use and or have a lost on

The available coin for mixing means that we are able to use this much from our clients account to do the mixing, that doesnt mean we own it

But yet, if you look at your site's main page, and your first post on bitcointalk, it looks like you've actually got these funds... I think this is misdirecting your clients.
By the way, by working this way, you don't have any guarantee... What if a clients sends 250 BTC your way, but your "partner" lied to you and doesn't provide you with the necessary liquidity... What will you do in this case?

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If you do a mixing and set as 1 hour from now for example, database has to store this info,  then if the database is breached , FEDS can link the funds sent and received with this one hour delay,
i find that very not secured.

We do manual time mixing , its not automated, no link between received funds or received funds and the receive value also is random . in court, you can actually escape because no evidence of mixing, no timing, no exact value, no trace between old and new funds. and no dangerous downloadable gurantee letter which can contain codes, or recoverable in your harddisk even if deleted using deep scan. we are trying our best to make a change in mixing.

we dont do advanced AI hybrid algorithm , we just do it manual at times we like making it safer with no traceable timing logs

But... But... But....
Your main page said, and i quote:

Fully Automated
Our sites is fully automated to ensure highest level of privacy

source: https:// whalemixer . com /

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we appreciate clients that genuinely interested in protecting their privacy and not illegal activities , we dont wanna raise flags or get in trouble with high profile criminals

ransomware operators are encouraged to use our services for legal privacy enhancement reasons , you are very welcomed to use our services

So, ransomware operators are NOT criminals? Strange, in my country they are...

[LoyceV]

The reason we don't issue guarantee letter to download is because we do not want any trace because that piece of evidence can be used against you even if you delete it. its recoverable if you do a hardisk deep scan . another reason is , i am a user of mixer as well in the past, i really avoid downloading anything to my computer, what if its a virus set up by the FBI ? i am so paranoid if i have to download a guarantee letter , i dont mind viewing it online but not downloading it .

You're grasping at straws. Anyone can shred their files. The FBI isn't going to put a virus in a text-file. Besides, any web page you view is downloaded to your own computer by default anyway.

We do manual time mixing , its not automated
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we just do it manual at times we like making it safer

But... But... But....
Your main page said, and i quote:

Fully Automated
Our sites is fully automated to ensure highest level of privacy

Another lie. You can turn one more yellow box red.

ransomware operators are encouraged to use our services for legal privacy enhancement reasons , you are very welcomed to use our services

Quoted for reference. I believe privacy is a human right, but offering services to aid criminals is against the law in most countries.
It's the difference between selling guns for home defense, and encouraging bank robbers to use your guns.

kindly stop recommending new clients.

You're funny

[NotATether]

ransomware operators are encouraged to use our services for legal privacy enhancement reasons , you are very welcomed to use our services

Pardon me but you making written encouragement of this activity will make you a huge target of law enforcement's crosshairs later. There were mixers in the past who were shut down by the feds and their owners arrested (BTC-e, Helix, Bitcoin Fog, etc etc.) you clearly do not want to place your mixing service in that kind of position.

[dkbit98]

we are planning to increasing our mixing fee from 1-3% to 2-4% due to overwhelming demand

Isn't that decision maybe because your screwed with your manual sending of funds to clients, so you lost money with previous two clients due to your own mistakes.

kindly stop recommending new clients. we are happy serving our old clients

I never recommended this semi-scam service to anyone, and I never will, oh the contrary.

ransomware operators are encouraged to use our services for legal privacy enhancement reasons , you are very welcomed to use our services

You better shut your mouth because you speak so many stupid things since you started this topic, like putting ransomware operators and legal operation in same sentence.  

[daobao11]

we are planning to increasing our mixing fee from 1-3% to 2-4% due to overwhelming demand

this will reduce our clients as we are able to serve our smaller number of clients better without raising much flags

kindly stop recommending new clients. we are happy serving our old clients ,

we appreciate clients that genuinely interested in protecting their privacy and not illegal activities , we dont wanna raise flags or get in trouble with high profile criminals

ransomware operators are encouraged to use our services for legal privacy enhancement reasons , you are very welcomed to use our services
 

After sending the funds, 18 hours have passed, but the coins have not been credited to my account
How many time i need wait?

[mocacinno]

After sending the funds, 18 hours have passed, but the coins have not been credited to my account
How many time i need wait?

source of the quotes: w h a le m ixe r [dot][com]
The mixer's admin says (on his main page), and i quote:

Random delay between 5 minutes - 6 hours to enhance privacy

He also says (on his main page), and i quote:

Our sites is fully automated to ensure highest level of privacy

And i you would want to contact him, he says (on his main page), and i quote:

We reply all our clients within 1-24 hours and we suport PGP encryption

So, in the ideal situation, you shouldn't have had to wait longer than 6 hours, since he promised the site is fully automated. If you have a problem, he promised that he'd reply in less than 24 hours aswell...


HOWEVER......

• He has admitted he's not automated at all, he's just randomly sending funds... Some people have had to wait much longer than 6 hours
• Some people have mentioned waiting way more than 24 hours for support to answer them
• He also doesn't give out letters of guarantee for some fluke of a reason. So you have no way of proving he did not mix your coins
• He also charges a waaaaay higher fee than promised... He substracts the mining fee from the amount he's sending, eventough other mixer's don't do this, and he doesn't tell you he'll be doing this anywhere
• If you were mixing a bigger amount: the admin has admitted those numbers of coins "in stock" he has on his site are fake (well, he started twising words and splitting hairs, saying that he has PARTNERS that have this amount of coins, and he'll be able to get this amount from his PARTNERS)
• Eventough the admin keeps saying you'll get fresh coins: don't believe him... I analysed a mixing session shared by a known and trusted forum member, and there were no coinbase rewards within a meaningfull distance.

The *only* thing you can do is make a scam accusation and hope the admin tries to resolve your case. I would not recommand using this mixer ever again tough... I suspect this is either a manual one-man operation that doesn't really understand the concept of what he's doing, making promises and not keeping them, throwing in big buzzwords without understanding what he's saying OR it's an exit scam waiting to happen

[dkbit98]

After sending the funds, 18 hours have passed, but the coins have not been credited to my account
How many time i need wait?

Six hours is maximum time states on their website but you now passed all possible waiting limits.
You see many warnings we previously posted about whalemixer so why are you still trying to use their mixing service?
They are a proven liars (most likely scammers) and they are doing everything manually probably operated with one or two guys from some basement.
OP was last time active in bitcointalk forum on 18 July!

[SinisterB]

After sending the funds, 18 hours have passed, but the coins have not been credited to my account
How many time i need wait?

Six hours is maximum time states on their website but you now passed all possible waiting limits.
You see many warnings we previously posted about whalemixer so why are you still trying to use their mixing service?
They are a proven liars (most likely scammers) and they are doing everything manually probably operated with one or two guys from some basement.
OP was last time active in bitcointalk forum on 18 July!

So I am not the only one who did not received the coins? Also sent him a message but nobody answered!
When I try to login to see the status it says: Records not found.

Wanted to exchange lot more.. but had to see first how it works. Will post an update if I receive the coins or any answers.

[acroman08]

Wanted to exchange lot more.. but had to see first how it works. Will post an update if I receive the coins or any answers.

there are far more credible mixers that are actively advertising here in the forum, why not mix the remaining amount that you want to be mixed on them. with the recent issues that have arisen, it would be for the best to just avoid the mixer in question.

[SinisterB]

Wanted to exchange lot more.. but had to see first how it works. Will post an update if I receive the coins or any answers.

there are far more credible mixers that are actively advertising here in the forum, why not mix the remaining amount that you want to be mixed on them. with the recent issues that have arisen, it would be for the best to just avoid the mixer in question.

I had no idea about the issues, I thought is it safe to use them since I found the website on this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827109.0

After not receiving the coins.. I started reading about the mixer