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May 07, 2021, 07:45:18 PM
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I would normally advise people to use dogecoin but seeing it outperforming every other crypto lately I start to regret my view on it. Apparently the coin everybody was laughing at made the most buck for the holders since the last year.
I do see that dogecoin's up surge is due to bitcoin's nature of slowly becoming a pure digital asset rather than being a payment system. I guess that you do not need to be regretting. Dogecoin must be the best option to gamble with. Fee for transacting in dogecoins is still 1 doge which is approximately 1100 satoshi must be cheaper these days.

I foresee like bitcoin will value in millions hence people will afraid to spend it which will make all other altcoins to replace bitcoins in gambling industry completely. People will rarely spend bitcoins which might not include gambling as well.

You might be right in the long run, so many institutions and rich individuals are buying up Bitcoin that any which becomes available will be hoarded by the few. Just like billionaires collect football clubs because they have nothing better to spend their money on (much like boats, which are a terrible money sink for most people), they will work to amass the biggest pool of Bitcoins so they can brag to their private country club friends. It is heading to one place really and other cryptocurrencies seem far better suited for these kind of low level transactions, even something like Dogecoin that has a circulation of around 128 billion it is much harder to corner the market and sway the price because it should be a lot more diluted with more owners.

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May 07, 2021, 07:56:15 PM
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I foresee like bitcoin will value in millions hence people will afraid to spend it which will make all other altcoins to replace bitcoins in gambling industry completely. People will rarely spend bitcoins which might not include gambling as well.

No real argument there. A bitcoin can be divided down to eight decimal places. There are casinos that even nowadays display your balance in a millibit or a microbit denominations.
So we can go all the way to satoshis and even beyond the satoshi because platforms can add decimal places in their internal calculations.

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May 07, 2021, 07:59:27 PM
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I foresee like bitcoin will value in millions hence people will afraid to spend it which will make all other altcoins to replace bitcoins in gambling industry completely. People will rarely spend bitcoins which might not include gambling as well.

No real argument there. A bitcoin can be divided down to eight decimal places. There are casinos that even nowadays display your balance in a millibit or a microbit denominations.
So we can go all the way to satoshis and even beyond the satoshi because platforms can add decimal places in their internal calculations.

This is true and i dont know why other people cant see this key area that bitcoin can really be divided into smaller places so that wont really be an issue after all.

When it comes to value then this would be a personal choice or preference if they cant just afford to spend it up and just rather decide to save it on instead.

Its up to someones choice though since its our coins after all.

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May 07, 2021, 08:20:37 PM
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I foresee like bitcoin will value in millions hence people will afraid to spend it which will make all other altcoins to replace bitcoins in gambling industry completely. People will rarely spend bitcoins which might not include gambling as well.
It depend on who and how a person's gambling habits are. If they don't care about transaction fee, then bitcoin and ethereum will still be used for gambling. The transaction fee don't really affect the whales' gambling habit, they will still use whatever bitcoin and altcoin they want. For some people, regardless of the current value of bitcoin, they will still think that 1 bitcoin = 1 bitcoin.

Altcoin that have low transaction fee are an option for most gambler with minimal capital, this will be of great help. So bitcoin will still continue to be used in gambling by those who never care about transaction fee in my opinion.
Maybe until now the most used in gambling is bitcoin and Ethereum is one of the coins that are popular in the community so they don't care about fees, and this is only one transaction in the deposit and withdrawal this is not done very often by their whales. with large capital so it will take a long time to play in gambling using crypto.
So it is true that this is only an option of a middle class and minimal altcoin, so that is the best alternative choice so that many people will do it as they like.
Even millions of dollars of Bitcoin will not be a problem in the future, gambling will remain on top of bitcoin with many users.

There are many gamblers who don't mind that fees, most of those whales who really playing are not caring about this they are capable on working on it without any problem.

For them it's just a slight percentage of their bankroll, and those whales are VIP's who also understand the risk, some might win and cash their money out without any problem with transaction fees.

Depends from types of gamblers, small to mid might aim for alternative coins while big fat whales will continue to proceed using Bitcoin.

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May 07, 2021, 09:03:38 PM
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That most reputable gambling site only accepts bitcoin makes it hard for users to take advantage of the low fees associated with XRP and the rest of other altcoins that issue low fees. But if you are playing in a site that accepts deposits in another crypto aside from Bitcoin then you should hold your BTC and gamble with other currencies with low fees.
That's the option.

To gamble with the altcoin that you prefer and has the less fee than transferring bitcoin. If you're lucky enough and you have those alts to use if you want to gamble.

You have a choice and you can keep bitcoin to be held.


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May 07, 2021, 09:08:48 PM
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Maybe until now the most used in gambling is bitcoin and Ethereum is one of the coins that are popular in the community so they don't care about fees, and this is only one transaction in the deposit and withdrawal this is not done very often by their whales.
True, bitcoin is probably the first cryptocurrency pioneer in the crypto casino business so it is the largest amount of crypto used in the industry compared to dozens of other altcoin and stablecoin. Even though at this time I rarely use bitcoin in gambling, of course other people will still use it without being affected by transaction fee.
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May 07, 2021, 10:04:31 PM
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Maybe until now the most used in gambling is bitcoin and Ethereum is one of the coins that are popular in the community so they don't care about fees, and this is only one transaction in the deposit and withdrawal this is not done very often by their whales.
True, bitcoin is probably the first cryptocurrency pioneer in the crypto casino business so it is the largest amount of crypto used in the industry compared to dozens of other altcoin and stablecoin. Even though at this time I rarely use bitcoin in gambling, of course other people will still use it without being affected by transaction fee.
Everyone has their own choice, we choose what we're comfortable with, and some choose altcoins to gamble. For me, I use both altcoins and bitcoin, depending on the market situation of course, but I believe in the long run I would be more focused on altcoins as it is cheaper and faster in terms of confirmation, and I would be able to just keep my bitcoin for a long term investment and gamble altcoins.
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May 08, 2021, 04:08:43 AM
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Maybe until now the most used in gambling is bitcoin and Ethereum is one of the coins that are popular in the community so they don't care about fees, and this is only one transaction in the deposit and withdrawal this is not done very often by their whales. with large capital so it will take a long time to play in gambling using crypto.
So it is true that this is only an option of a middle class and minimal altcoin, so that is the best alternative choice so that many people will do it as they like.
Even millions of dollars of Bitcoin will not be a problem in the future, gambling will remain on top of bitcoin with many users.
Imo people still care about the fees, you'll see users complain about it whenever casinos bump their fees to like $25-$50 per withdraw request but there are other options available aside from converting since not all casinos have a big fee like the others. Like i've said before in my other post these fee issue comes up from time to time and eventually there will be a casino that'll solve these fee issues without having to use another coin.

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May 08, 2021, 05:24:48 AM
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Happy Friday, gamblers Smiley

Some time ago, last October, I asked you if BTC price increase has affected your gameplay somehow. Back then, it wasn't a problem for most of the users who replied.

Well, today the BTC price is almost $50K. I was just wondering, how are things now.
Are you still playing with Bitcoin, or have you switched to another coin due to a rise?

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Lucky that i read this late now coz the transaction fee decrease a lot so My Bitcoin gambling is back to normal.

I don't need to use my altcoin now because i believe that it is valuable to hold than Bitcoin nowadays.

So i'm not affected these days but recently? yeah i use altcoins .
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May 08, 2021, 09:55:25 AM
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Maybe until now the most used in gambling is bitcoin and Ethereum is one of the coins that are popular in the community so they don't care about fees, and this is only one transaction in the deposit and withdrawal this is not done very often by their whales. with large capital so it will take a long time to play in gambling using crypto.
So it is true that this is only an option of a middle class and minimal altcoin, so that is the best alternative choice so that many people will do it as they like.
Even millions of dollars of Bitcoin will not be a problem in the future, gambling will remain on top of bitcoin with many users.
Imo people still care about the fees, you'll see users complain about it whenever casinos bump their fees to like $25-$50 per withdraw request but there are other options available aside from converting since not all casinos have a big fee like the others. Like i've said before in my other post these fee issue comes up from time to time and eventually there will be a casino that'll solve these fee issues without having to use another coin.
This will bring problems mostly during a bull run or there's congestion in the blockchain, it's normal if we have followed how the market works and we are active in crypto. We are even lucky now that we have a lot of gambling sites accepting altcoins, unlike in the past there are only limited number which are accepting altcoins.

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May 08, 2021, 10:59:42 AM
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Happy Friday, gamblers Smiley

Some time ago, last October, I asked you if BTC price increase has affected your gameplay somehow. Back then, it wasn't a problem for most of the users who replied.

Well, today the BTC price is almost $50K. I was just wondering, how are things now.
Are you still playing with Bitcoin, or have you switched to another coin due to a rise?

Thanks,
Karl from Bitcasino
Lucky that i read this late now coz the transaction fee decrease a lot so My Bitcoin gambling is back to normal.

I don't need to use my altcoin now because i believe that it is valuable to hold than Bitcoin nowadays.

So i'm not affected these days but recently? yeah i use altcoins .

Yes, the cryptocurrency market is now in an alternate season. 

Alternative cryptocurrency prices are rising faster than the bitcoin price.  However, in my opinion, this is a temporary situation, it will not always be so. 

The price of Bitcoin can rise faster than the prices of promising altcoins.  We saw this in December 2017, January 2021 and will see it in the future.  During corrections, the price of Bitcoin falls more slowly than the price of altcoins. 

Therefore, in the long term, Bitcoins are more "valuable" financial assets.

 
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No real argument there. A bitcoin can be divided down to eight decimal places. There are casinos that even nowadays display your balance in a millibit or a microbit denominations.
So we can go all the way to satoshis and even beyond the satoshi because platforms can add decimal places in their internal calculations.
Making use of bitcoins in millibit or a microbit or even in satoshi or milli-satoshi got nothing to do with what we are discussing here. Yeah, how you are going to use a high value bitcoin got nothing to do with required fees to be added for depositing or withdrawing from a casino. Honestly I will not use bitcoins for my gambling if it starts valuing more than $100k levels.

Not just myself, many gamblers will start treating bitcoin as an asset then they will switch to different coin which might be having lower fees for transacting.

There will be no pint of continuing with bitcoin gambling when bitcoin values in million dollars and transaction fees are in hundreds of dollars.

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May 08, 2021, 04:24:20 PM
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Happy Friday, gamblers Smiley

Some time ago, last October, I asked you if BTC price increase has affected your gameplay somehow. Back then, it wasn't a problem for most of the users who replied.

Well, today the BTC price is almost $50K. I was just wondering, how are things now.
Are you still playing with Bitcoin, or have you switched to another coin due to a rise?

Thanks,
Karl from Bitcasino
Lucky that i read this late now coz the transaction fee decrease a lot so My Bitcoin gambling is back to normal.

I don't need to use my altcoin now because i believe that it is valuable to hold than Bitcoin nowadays.

So i'm not affected these days but recently? yeah i use altcoins .
Even if the bitcoin transaction fee decrease, with the high price of bitcoin price, that still not recommended to use bitcoin to gamble unless you have many bitcoins that you can use for anything you want. Many of us change our coins into altcoins instead of using bitcoin because they think that bitcoin is too worthy of being used for gamble. Besides that, the gambling website has many altcoins available on their site to use altcoin instead of bitcoin to gamble.

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Happy Friday, gamblers Smiley

Some time ago, last October, I asked you if BTC price increase has affected your gameplay somehow. Back then, it wasn't a problem for most of the users who replied.

Well, today the BTC price is almost $50K. I was just wondering, how are things now.
Are you still playing with Bitcoin, or have you switched to another coin due to a rise?

Thanks,
Karl from Bitcasino
Lucky that i read this late now coz the transaction fee decrease a lot so My Bitcoin gambling is back to normal.

I don't need to use my altcoin now because i believe that it is valuable to hold than Bitcoin nowadays.

So i'm not affected these days but recently? yeah i use altcoins .
Even if the bitcoin transaction fee decrease, with the high price of bitcoin price, that still not recommended to use bitcoin to gamble unless you have many bitcoins that you can use for anything you want. Many of us change our coins into altcoins instead of using bitcoin because they think that bitcoin is too worthy of being used for gamble. Besides that, the gambling website has many altcoins available on their site to use altcoin instead of bitcoin to gamble.

When you are gambling, you always convert your fiat to bitcoin, so it's not a big deal even if the price of bitcoin will increase, in fact, it will favor you as your win will increase due to the increasing value of bitcoin. The mentality of a gambler and an investor is different, we gamble to win, and we use bitcoin as a payment method only, not an investment.

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When you are gambling, you always convert your fiat to bitcoin, so it's not a big deal even if the price of bitcoin will increase, in fact, it will favor you as your win will increase due to the increasing value of bitcoin. The mentality of a gambler and an investor is different, we gamble to win, and we use bitcoin as a payment method only, not an investment.
Well, but the potential of being an investor was there.
While your fund is on gambling and the bitcoin price keeps increasing while holding on it is considering while investing in bitcoin grows the value as well compared to dollars. But you have a good point, bitcoin is a mode of payment and it could be used in gambling. But how about the fees? Are you still able to use bitcoin if the fee will cost $5-10? I can't imagine the reason why people switch to altcoins.









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May 08, 2021, 09:46:17 PM
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When you are gambling, you always convert your fiat to bitcoin, so it's not a big deal even if the price of bitcoin will increase, in fact, it will favor you as your win will increase due to the increasing value of bitcoin. The mentality of a gambler and an investor is different, we gamble to win, and we use bitcoin as a payment method only, not an investment.
Well, but the potential of being an investor was there.
While your fund is on gambling and the bitcoin price keeps increasing while holding on it is considering while investing in bitcoin grows the value as well compared to dollars. But you have a good point, bitcoin is a mode of payment and it could be used in gambling. But how about the fees? Are you still able to use bitcoin if the fee will cost $5-10? I can't imagine the reason why people switch to altcoins.
You will be confused if you will gamble and invest at the same time but you don't treat it separately.

Let's put it this way, I have 2 BTC, I decided to keep 1 BTC for investment and 1 BTC for gambling, or 1 BTC for trading and 1 BTC for gambling.
As a trader and gambler, I should treat my two purposes differently, I will trade, follow the trading strategy and when I'm gambling, I'll follow the gambling strategy.

I guess most of us here are investing in bitcoin, but we also can't deny that we are also gambling, so we just need to be smart and responsible.

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May 09, 2021, 10:28:41 AM
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When you are gambling, you always convert your fiat to bitcoin, so it's not a big deal even if the price of bitcoin will increase, in fact, it will favor you as your win will increase due to the increasing value of bitcoin. The mentality of a gambler and an investor is different, we gamble to win, and we use bitcoin as a payment method only, not an investment.
I do not use bitcoin to gamble after the bitcoin price increases because if I still use bitcoin to gamble and lose it, that will be a pain in my head. But yes, if we win, the amount of bitcoin that we have will increase, which means that if we convert into fiat, our money will also increase. Maybe we need to take care of our mental to know what we need to do related to the current situations.

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May 09, 2021, 11:26:46 AM
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When you are gambling, you always convert your fiat to bitcoin, so it's not a big deal even if the price of bitcoin will increase, in fact, it will favor you as your win will increase due to the increasing value of bitcoin. The mentality of a gambler and an investor is different, we gamble to win, and we use bitcoin as a payment method only, not an investment.
I do not use bitcoin to gamble after the bitcoin price increases because if I still use bitcoin to gamble and lose it, that will be a pain in my head. But yes, if we win, the amount of bitcoin that we have will increase, which means that if we convert into fiat, our money will also increase. Maybe we need to take care of our mental to know what we need to do related to the current situations.

The games over here in the cryptocurrency community are fun, but we shouldn't make irrational bets. We also have to admit that even though we are young, we need to make the right decisions. After all, you are not going to get rich overnight and you will have to work hard for every single bit of your money, no matter what game you play.
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May 09, 2021, 01:14:46 PM
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When you are gambling, you always convert your fiat to bitcoin, so it's not a big deal even if the price of bitcoin will increase, in fact, it will favor you as your win will increase due to the increasing value of bitcoin. The mentality of a gambler and an investor is different, we gamble to win, and we use bitcoin as a payment method only, not an investment.
I do not use bitcoin to gamble after the bitcoin price increases because if I still use bitcoin to gamble and lose it, that will be a pain in my head. But yes, if we win, the amount of bitcoin that we have will increase, which means that if we convert into fiat, our money will also increase. Maybe we need to take care of our mental to know what we need to do related to the current situations.
I also stopped gambling with bitcoin since a long time back itself; its massive prices was one reason but the primary reason was, I needed to include very high fees for my deposits and some times I was enforced to wait for more that 6 hours for the first confirmation to happen.

But leaving off bitcoin based gambling is not that simple for my case as well, because I've got practiced to calculate everything in terms bitcoin but suddenly getting into the new altcoins, certainly affected my way of gambling like I needed to set my base bet amount according to what I was doing with BTC. Sometimes BTC<->altcoin converters are not that handy while we are in gambling hype.
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May 09, 2021, 01:16:34 PM
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I do not use bitcoin to gamble after the bitcoin price increases because if I still use bitcoin to gamble and lose it, that will be a pain in my head. But yes, if we win, the amount of bitcoin that we have will increase, which means that if we convert into fiat, our money will also increase. Maybe we need to take care of our mental to know what we need to do related to the current situations.

I think we need to pause and realize forever that bitcoin is an investment (as a means of payment, there are many other more convenient options). In my opinion, gambling with your investment is very stupid, since you (most likely) will lose, which means not just the loss of some funds now, but also the loss of potential profit in future.

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