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February 17, 2021, 03:21:09 AM
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How can this situation be termed as an external affairs issue between two countries if gamblers are caught and moreover they have a strict law on gambling as per the above users and hence it will not be diverted like that. What is the punishment they will be getting if they have the evidence, but if they are caught unlawfully then it will be an external affairs issue.

Both India and Bangladesh have strict laws against financial fraud, especially that related to gambling. In this case, these two individuals were not merely involved in gambling but trying to cheat the sportsbook. If it was just a case of gambling participation, then they could have got scot free after paying a $2 fine. But with the cheating and fraud charges, they may be sent behind bars.

And there is not much the Indian embassy can do about this (first of all, I don't think that they will be much concerned). If a foreign citizen commits a crime within the Bangladeshi borders, then the legal action will be taken as per the prevailing Bangladeshi laws. At the most, the Indian embassy can provide the accused with access to lawyers so that they can defend themselves. 

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February 17, 2021, 03:22:15 AM
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Yeah, the nationality will be a big issue. By the time this could also cause external affairs issue. In their own country this will not be dealt with high concern, but the same will be taken additional priority by the cross country issues. In other terms most of the time people located around the border region holds the citizenship of both India and Bangladesh.
How can this situation be termed as an external affairs issue between two countries if gamblers are caught and moreover they have a strict law on gambling as per the above users and hence it will not be diverted like that. What is the punishment they will be getting if they have the evidence, but if they are caught unlawfully then it will be an external affairs issue.
True has been spoken. I already mentioned in this thread earlier that gambling is prohibited and it is considered as a crime here declared by High Court. So as per the law of their visited country, it is a crime and they maybe done that intentionally with sense. So they should be punished after completing all the formalities.

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February 17, 2021, 05:32:53 AM
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Going against the law will always be calling for such actions. So it was their own choice what they had to choose and choose wisely but apparently they thought to go other way and finally ended up getting caught on this. If people are so crazy or cannot control without living gambling then be in the country which legitimates accepts it so that you are free to gamble.


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February 17, 2021, 06:07:05 AM
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They need to know crypto casinos or sports book so they will not face any problem.

When gambling in crypto is possible because we can do it anonymously, we should see it as an opportunity to bypass our country's restriction on gambling, I think it's easy to do that, just use VPN to mask your real IP address and you are good to go, these people are smart but not so smart.
Yes it is easy to use VPN to hide their IP, but the thing is does this site will allow people to use IP? or to have different IP that is far from the previous one? that will result them from being banned if it is prohibited. Maybe it is sad that they did not allow people to gamble or to use crypto, it can help their citizen as well, if they are concerned about addiction it is not beyond their responsibility I think. So for now they should obey law, soon they will use crypto again I'm sure.
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February 17, 2021, 06:16:33 AM
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The news is quite interesting to me because the gamblers are so much tricky that they use live match for batting in different countries by visiting the playground and used the time in betting. Because it becomes live after finishing the ball, so they used that time in betting at staying in the field.

In Bangladesh, all types of gambling is prohibited and considered as crime, cryptocurrency too. They will be charged due to violation of law. The news published by Dhakatribune. News link is here,
https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/cricket/2021/02/07/three-indians-arrested-over-illegal-betting-in-zacs

Even in India, gambling is banned! However, a lot of people use small local gambling rackets to gamble on cricket which is the most popular game in India. As you have confirmed, it's the same with Bangladesh as well. So these people were rightfully charged as per the existing provisions of law! I don't think it is a matter great discussion. Rather it should serve as a warning for the people of those countries where gambling is banned!

BTW, are the cricket matches still stopping visitors at the playground due to COVID? I believe 30% capacity is what they are allowed for! Not sure what is the scene in Bangladesh!

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February 17, 2021, 06:21:14 AM
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Rather it should serve as a warning for the people of those countries where gambling is banned!

Exactly, it is the waring for those who used to gambling and visited many countries. So they should know first gambling is legal or illegal in destination country. Otherwise, if they caught, they will be punished as per law of the destination country's law amd rules.

BTW, are the cricket matches still stopping visitors at the playground due to COVID? I believe 30% capacity is what they are allowed for! Not sure what is the scene in Bangladesh!
In Bangladesh, I don't hear such rules. Though I am not living the capital of the city. I live in a town where already organized cricket match which is free for all and people are gathered without any hesitation. That's the real scenario of Bangladesh.

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February 17, 2021, 07:18:21 AM
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Looks like double cheating! They violated both the governmental guidelines regarding gambling and betting rules, so it would be fair to say they have only themselves to blame. I realize that it's very tempting because with this strategy you can put all your money and assets and win a fortune, but that's also not fair and these people paid for it.

I think there shouldn't be any delays between the live game and broadcast, or, in case that's impossible to organize - all betting should be closed prior to the game, so that there'll be no temptation for such actions.
If any casino decided to do anything like that they will lose a great deal of their customer base very quickly, many people like to make live bets and any casino that is worth anything will offer them to try to appeal to those gamblers, and as long as that is the case there is always going to be a delay between the play actually happening and the casino updating its results, and while there is no doubt that is a form of cheating casinos are able to identify those people really quickly, how you may ask? Very simple, because they always win those kind of bets and that is without a doubt suspicious behaviour.
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February 17, 2021, 08:00:22 AM
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Any undocumented gambling of all sorts will definitely receive a heavy hand from the government, and it's not only in Bangladesh that gamblers are condemned, most countries who facilitate illegal gambling do. Cannot really blame these guys for dreaming big but can't blame the government either for arresting and prosecuting them.

True but what the need of dreaming big if the action will be considered criminal offence.
If they had planned this out for a very long time, why they don't just do it anonymously or do it in a country where at least it is considered a bit legal

I still wonder why people construct plans of committing crime for a long time when they can use that time to construct one that won't lead them in jail.
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February 17, 2021, 08:24:08 AM
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There are so many people that just make a lot of ways to gamble and it was just like small illegal gambling groups in differents games of whatsoever. There are some countries where not all kinds of gambling are prohibited and maybe they could still gamble at some point legally. I just wonder if it is just if they just do this crime all for money. I think it might be a big group of gamblers since they have the guts to do this in a country where gambling is illegal or somehow they might have a bit of protection.
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February 17, 2021, 08:36:27 AM
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Although these guys were caught, I strongly suspect that this may not be the first time that they are engaging in this sort of fraud. But it shows the incompetence of the sportsbooks as well. Before the pandemic, fans were allowed in to the stands legally. Back then, these guys could have made their bets in a perfectly legal manner, and made huge amount of money in profits. If the sportsbooks were unaware of the lag between live match and cricket coverage, then they don't deserve to be in the business.
Sportsbook earn a lot of money and most of the sportsbooks works on the odds provider data and odds they provide so I mean its not entirely the fault of the sportsbook because they are further dependent on their odds provider.

I believe these kind of incidents are very common and there are number of match fixing events too that happen in smaller leagues, I remember watching a clip of cricket which made me laugh my ass out. I mean the players involved didn't even tried to look real while they were fixing and I recommend any cricket fans to please check it out if you haven't yet. I could not find the original link but it will help you anyways - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xTEf5TJrMc

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February 17, 2021, 01:31:26 PM
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Any undocumented gambling of all sorts will definitely receive a heavy hand from the government, and it's not only in Bangladesh that gamblers are condemned, most countries who facilitate illegal gambling do. Cannot really blame these guys for dreaming big but can't blame the government either for arresting and prosecuting them.

True but what the need of dreaming big if the action will be considered criminal offence.
If they had planned this out for a very long time, why they don't just do it anonymously or do it in a country where at least it is considered a bit legal

I still wonder why people construct plans of committing crime for a long time when they can use that time to construct one that won't lead them in jail.
When they dream about making money from gambling, they will regret it because they do not know how much money they will lose because of playing gambling. They really need to search for other ways to make money and not depend on gambling. Dreaming big is necessary to make us work hard to earn money, but if that comes from gambling, I will not say that will be easy as many people already lose a lot of money by playing gambling. Their punishment will be hard if they play gambling in the illegal casino as the government will catch them.

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"The BCB accused them of betting through digital means inside the stadium. They were formally arrested today," said Hasan Imam, a senior Chittagong police officer.
If these guys were gambling through digital means, why were they in situ instead of their homes or any other distant place playing safely? With so many gambling options nowadays I think it's foolishness to break not only the country's rules, but also the social distancing rules entering the stadium knowing that isn't being allowed for now.

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February 17, 2021, 10:22:57 PM
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Big giveaway that tapped their location to the police is the fact that they are out in the oublic gambling instead of inside the comfort of their houses, these guys must be so confident of their skills that they felt untouchable. Unfortunately for them, the police is much more perceptive of their activities and so they got busted as a result. Hoping this will serve as a warning and a lesson to those who want to take in illegal gambling.
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Big giveaway that tapped their location to the police is the fact that they are out in the oublic gambling instead of inside the comfort of their houses, these guys must be so confident of their skills that they felt untouchable. Unfortunately for them, the police is much more perceptive of their activities and so they got busted as a result. Hoping this will serve as a warning and a lesson to those who want to take in illegal gambling.
Some are just too confident just because they do believe that they have someone into their backs in case there are problems later on but sadly
you cant really guarantee that you would really be bailed out by those people who is on your back but if you do solely play in illegal places
in your own will then you would really be hard time on how to resolve this out.Once you do commit violation or the law then you would
need to face up those consequences and this would be indeed an eye opener for those who do tend nor plan to do the same.

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February 17, 2021, 11:39:03 PM
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Big giveaway that tapped their location to the police is the fact that they are out in the oublic gambling instead of inside the comfort of their houses, these guys must be so confident of their skills that they felt untouchable. Unfortunately for them, the police is much more perceptive of their activities and so they got busted as a result. Hoping this will serve as a warning and a lesson to those who want to take in illegal gambling.
Some are just too confident just because they do believe that they have someone into their backs in case there are problems later on but sadly
you cant really guarantee that you would really be bailed out by those people who is on your back but if you do solely play in illegal places
in your own will then you would really be hard time on how to resolve this out.Once you do commit violation or the law then you would
need to face up those consequences and this would be indeed an eye opener for those who do tend nor plan to do the same.

Because once you are cornered, those backers are not backers anymore. They need to save themselves also, so they will run away also from the situation. I believe they have those backers as they will not be so confident doing such activity. And maybe, they are already doing this for long time. Who knows, someone who is envious of them placed the top to the authorities? We don't know the real story here. But bottomline, just gamble in legal ways so you won't have a problem.
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February 17, 2021, 11:56:59 PM
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The news is quite interesting to me because the gamblers are so much tricky that they use live match for batting in different countries by visiting the playground and used the time in betting. Because it becomes live after finishing the ball, so they used that time in betting at staying in the field.

In Bangladesh, all types of gambling is prohibited and considered as crime, cryptocurrency too. They will be charged due to violation of law. The news published by Dhakatribune. News link is here,
https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/cricket/2021/02/07/three-indians-arrested-over-illegal-betting-in-zacs

This must not be continue to happen and authorities should impose a strict pursuit over these cheaters. If their country consider it as a crime, then these guys were liable for what they did. Their country already hated any gambling activities, so if so happened pleaded guilty then final judgement could br their verdict once the court decide what ample judgement for them.
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February 18, 2021, 12:48:10 AM
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The news is quite interesting to me because the gamblers are so much tricky that they use live match for batting in different countries by visiting the playground and used the time in betting. Because it becomes live after finishing the ball, so they used that time in betting at staying in the field.

In Bangladesh, all types of gambling is prohibited and considered as crime, cryptocurrency too. They will be charged due to violation of law. The news published by Dhakatribune. News link is here,
https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/cricket/2021/02/07/three-indians-arrested-over-illegal-betting-in-zacs

This must not be continue to happen and authorities should impose a strict pursuit over these cheaters. If their country consider it as a crime, then these guys were liable for what they did. Their country already hated any gambling activities, so if so happened pleaded guilty then final judgement could br their verdict once the court decide what ample judgement for them.
That's what the authorities did right ? they pursue and caught the cheaters?

that is why they are now arrested and under custody ? There are so many form of cheating and illegal gambling but this one is worst they have cheated various countries for their means to make money.

Big giveaway that tapped their location to the police is the fact that they are out in the oublic gambling instead of inside the comfort of their houses, these guys must be so confident of their skills that they felt untouchable. Unfortunately for them, the police is much more perceptive of their activities and so they got busted as a result. Hoping this will serve as a warning and a lesson to those who want to take in illegal gambling.
They have not that knowledgeable about the things they entered that's why they end up being Jailed .









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February 18, 2021, 11:44:38 PM
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That's what the authorities did right ? they pursue and caught the cheaters?

that is why they are now arrested and under custody ? There are so many form of cheating and illegal gambling but this one is worst they have cheated various countries for their means to make money.
Like everyone i read the story after posting it here, from what is published and said above, Bangladesh has a strict policy on gambling and if that is the case the people arrested did not cheat anyone in that country nor any other country, if anyone has to file a complaint for cheating it is the sports book where they were gambling can do that and since gambling is not allowed you cannot file a case for cheating either Tongue.
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February 18, 2021, 11:52:40 PM
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Big giveaway that tapped their location to the police is the fact that they are out in the oublic gambling instead of inside the comfort of their houses, these guys must be so confident of their skills that they felt untouchable. Unfortunately for them, the police is much more perceptive of their activities and so they got busted as a result. Hoping this will serve as a warning and a lesson to those who want to take in illegal gambling.
Some are just too confident just because they do believe that they have someone into their backs in case there are problems later on but sadly
you cant really guarantee that you would really be bailed out by those people who is on your back but if you do solely play in illegal places
in your own will then you would really be hard time on how to resolve this out.Once you do commit violation or the law then you would
need to face up those consequences and this would be indeed an eye opener for those who do tend nor plan to do the same.

Because once you are cornered, those backers are not backers anymore. They need to save themselves also, so they will run away also from the situation. I believe they have those backers as they will not be so confident doing such activity. And maybe, they are already doing this for long time. Who knows, someone who is envious of them placed the top to the authorities? We don't know the real story here. But bottomline, just gamble in legal ways so you won't have a problem.
Situations like these can possibly happen just like on what we saw on movies which we do thought that cant happen in real life, then we are definitely wrong with that.

Its just normal for those Backers not to get involved with the situation because once they got exposed then that would be a big problem specially if those are big businessmen or even those government officials
would get involved into that case.

Illegal places do really exist even though government isnt really that strict, just because of trying to avoid taxes? Its not a viable reason though but for person choices as a gambler
or individual then why would choose up to these place for you to play if there are legal ones?

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Big giveaway that tapped their location to the police is the fact that they are out in the oublic gambling instead of inside the comfort of their houses, these guys must be so confident of their skills that they felt untouchable. Unfortunately for them, the police is much more perceptive of their activities and so they got busted as a result. Hoping this will serve as a warning and a lesson to those who want to take in illegal gambling.

If they sit inside their home, how can they know about what is happening in the match and modify their bets accordingly? As detailed by the OP, these scammers were making use of the lag between live match and TV coverage. They placed their spot-bets after the ball was delivered, but before it was shown in the TV. I need to congratulate the Bangladeshi police, for nabbing these guys. Indirectly they were causing loses to the other gamblers.

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